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(Huffington Post)   So it turns out Alexander the Great died of.... wine?   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 60
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2014-01-15 01:37:34 AM

Gyrfalcon: Er, well, 2500 years later, based on 3d hand reports, no body and Reliable Sources, it's still nothing more than speculation.

It MIGHT have been poisoned wine; it might have been ordinary wine; it might have been West Nile virus; it might have been 7 bad wounds and years of hard living; hell, it could have been AIDS.


Most likely, considering all the buttsecks.
 
2014-01-15 02:12:34 AM

Ishkur: JasonOfOrillia: I have this idea that the Macedonians were rubes at best, barbarians at worst, for all their Hellenistic pretensions.  I heard one definition of 'Barbarian' as someone whose culture doesn't survive contact with civilization and when Alexander the Great conquered Persia he, apparently, began assuming the trappings of the Persians.  The implication is that the Hellenistic culture to which he and his Macedonians pretended was weaker than Persian culture that they rolled over.

See, the Romans didn't have that problem. Whoever they stomped, they naturally came to the conclusion that they were the superior culture, otherwise they wouldn't have stomped them.

/Except when it came to Greece
//come to think of it, there seems to be some sort of historical trend, one might say an aura of respect and honor, whenever an Empire stomps on a formerly superior Empire, to respect the former Empire's traditions and culture. So the Greeks respected the Persians and the Romans respected the Greeks and the Goths respected the Romans (sort of) and the Arabs respected the Byzantines and everybody respected Egypt and the Mongols didn't respect anybody because they were the exception.


The mongol rulers of China kept the institutions and government of previous Chinese dynasties, adopted Chinese culture, and lived as Chinese emperors would. So, no, they werent the exception.

There is a reason why these Chinese are the oldest continuous civilization. No matter who conquers them, their civilization, culture, institutions, and way of life remains.
 
2014-01-15 02:33:02 AM

Fallout Boy: The mongol rulers of China kept the institutions and government of previous Chinese dynasties, adopted Chinese culture, and lived as Chinese emperors would. So, no, they werent the exception.


I know, I was making a "the Mongols are the exception" joke. It's something of a meme in history circles.
 
2014-01-15 02:56:51 AM

Mega Steve: Clear alcohol is better for you, anyway


especially the corn variety
 
2014-01-15 04:12:22 AM
According to Arthur C. Clarke in the novel "Firstborn", he was actually stabbed to death by a pissed-off Neanderthal.
 
2014-01-15 06:21:32 AM
Ethanol isn't much of toxin for many wee beasties, some even poop it.  Heck, acetone isn't a sure killer all of the time.
 
2014-01-15 08:10:12 AM
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2014-01-15 09:38:51 AM

Ishkur: miss diminutive: But that haircut.....

And Angelina Jolie with that horrendous accent. She sounded like a god damn Romanian gymnast for crying out loud.

And Anthony Hopkins telling us what happened instead of showing us. Holy shiat was that movie terrible.

Really, Alexander's life can't be done in one movie. It really needs to be an HBO mini-series with a massive budget, because there's a lot of fighting.


Only if it is done by the guys who did Rome. That show kicked ass.

/Really, actual ass.
 
2014-01-15 09:49:31 AM

captjc: Ishkur: miss diminutive: But that haircut.....

And Angelina Jolie with that horrendous accent. She sounded like a god damn Romanian gymnast for crying out loud.

And Anthony Hopkins telling us what happened instead of showing us. Holy shiat was that movie terrible.

Really, Alexander's life can't be done in one movie. It really needs to be an HBO mini-series with a massive budget, because there's a lot of fighting.

Only if it is done by the guys who did Rome. That show kicked ass.

/Really, actual ass.


Too bad thy burned it down.
 
2014-01-15 11:27:49 AM
Ancient descriptions of disease and death, especially in poetry and history, are more often figurative and not scientific. First, the sources for Alexander were written down centuries after his death and it is impossible to establish firmly what parts came from first-hand observers. Second, such descriptions of disease and death are typically meant to speak to an idea of mental/moral decay. The sources are not scientific therefore I find it difficult to believe that an accurate diagnosis can be derived from them.
 
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