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(Huffington Post)   So it turns out Alexander the Great died of.... wine?   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 60
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2014-01-14 09:14:37 PM
Classic blunder.
 
2014-01-14 09:25:13 PM

Gunny Highway: Classic blunder.


Well he seemed to make the land war in Asia thing work.
 
2014-01-14 09:26:21 PM

Oldiron_79: Gunny Highway: Classic blunder.

Well he seemed to make the land war in Asia thing work.


Inconceivable feats without question.
 
2014-01-14 09:27:44 PM
I mulled on that a while back.  I just didn't want to whine about the dupe.
 
2014-01-14 09:30:31 PM
Clear alcohol is better for you, anyway
 
2014-01-14 09:32:50 PM
wouldn't be the first in that region/time to die via wine-related mishap. One thing on Caligula I was watching a while back hypothesized that he went all nutters thanks to the lead from their jars leaching into the wine.
 
2014-01-14 09:32:51 PM
If he was so great, then how come he's dead?
 
2014-01-14 09:34:42 PM
That's why he is now known as Alexander the Grape.
 
2014-01-14 09:35:21 PM
Um.. this is not new news. It was long believed he contracted a bacterial infection that he got from drinking from a contaminated cup. Also, he may have drank it knowing it would get him sick because he was still not over the lost of his lover.
 
2014-01-14 09:35:28 PM
Already have one, thanks. So, what did he die of?
 
2014-01-14 09:35:48 PM
just like that spaz harbaugh is gonna do next weekend.

oh, WINE. not whine.
 
2014-01-14 09:36:42 PM
IIRC, he died at the best time to allow the formation of the Roman Republic/Empire to occur - too short of a life and he wouldn't have had subjugated enough nations but too long and everything would've followed the political structure he tried to establish.
 
2014-01-14 09:38:29 PM
I've thought that I had died from wine, more than once, but, that was just Ripple Red or Mad Dog, and I got better....I think.
 
2014-01-14 09:39:43 PM
More like Alexander the GRAPE!!!!! HA!!!!! Get it?!

/crickets
 
2014-01-14 09:40:02 PM
www.growerdirect.com
 always wanted to grow helibore, particularly the black,  they're one of the first flowers to bloom and can do so in the snow.
 
2014-01-14 09:40:44 PM

Active introvert: Um.. this is not new news. It was long believed he contracted a bacterial infection that he got from drinking from a contaminated cup. Also, he may have drank it knowing it would get him sick because he was still not over the lost of his lover.


Read the article.
 
2014-01-14 09:40:55 PM

cfletch13: More like Alexander the GRAPE!!!!! HA!!!!! Get it?!

/crickets


Im gonna grape you in the mouth.
 
2014-01-14 09:41:12 PM

Gunny Highway: Classic blunder.


Heh, anyway sure.....
 
2014-01-14 09:43:39 PM

Active introvert: Um.. this is not new news. It was long believed he contracted a bacterial infection that he got from drinking from a contaminated cup. Also, he may have drank it knowing it would get him sick because he was still not over the lost of his lover.


pathogenic bacteria doesn't survive well (as in not at all) in wine
 
2014-01-14 09:44:50 PM
He should have worked up his immunity to iocaine powder.  Wouldn't have taken him THAT long.  The Dread Pirate Roberts was prepared for anything.  This guy, not so much.
 
2014-01-14 09:47:43 PM
my theory is that he was a time traveler and the day he died  was the day he was born,

the first time machine was powered by a blind three legged mule.


what, it's just a plausible as this theory with no evidence or proof
 
2014-01-14 09:49:31 PM
So a guy gets paid for 10 years to try to figure out how Al died and they don't even have the remains? I would have come up a more legendary cause such as blow and hookers, who could say otherwise?
 
2014-01-14 09:52:18 PM
I would cancel my plan to die of wine since it has apparently already been done, but I am so enjoying the process.

/pesky liver
 
2014-01-14 09:55:35 PM
i.imgur.com

Caught you, Mr. A.T. Great!
 
2014-01-14 09:55:54 PM
Try the wine, Alex?
i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-01-14 10:00:18 PM
I though he died at the hands of an ex-cop who was pissed that Alexander was texting during movie previews.
 
2014-01-14 10:00:54 PM
The first biography I read when I was a kid was of him. It probably was the first non-kid book I read too as I was around 10 or 11.

Anyone can recommend a recent biography of him?
 
2014-01-14 10:01:43 PM
2 buck Chuck or Franzia?
 
2014-01-14 10:03:55 PM

Tymast: [www.growerdirect.com image 850x566]
 always wanted to grow helibore, particularly the black,  they're one of the first flowers to bloom and can do so in the snow.


We have one of the black varieties in our garden (Black Diamond). Lovely plant.
 
2014-01-14 10:05:23 PM

Gunny Highway: Active introvert: Um.. this is not new news. It was long believed he contracted a bacterial infection that he got from drinking from a contaminated cup. Also, he may have drank it knowing it would get him sick because he was still not over the lost of his lover.

Read the article.


But, huff po...
 
2014-01-14 10:06:29 PM
I have this idea that the Macedonians were rubes at best, barbarians at worst, for all their Hellenistic pretensions.  I heard one definition of 'Barbarian' as someone whose culture doesn't survive contact with civilization and when Alexander the Great conquered Persia he, apparently, began assuming the trappings of the Persians.  The implication is that the Hellenistic culture to which he and his Macedonians pretended was weaker than Persian culture that they rolled over.

Anyways, don't judge me too harshly, I'm three pints in.
 
2014-01-14 10:21:04 PM
I named my son after him...but so far...the kid only likes Crown and Coke.
 
2014-01-14 10:34:06 PM

JasonOfOrillia: I have this idea that the Macedonians were rubes at best, barbarians at worst, for all their Hellenistic pretensions.  I heard one definition of 'Barbarian' as someone whose culture doesn't survive contact with civilization and when Alexander the Great conquered Persia he, apparently, began assuming the trappings of the Persians.  The implication is that the Hellenistic culture to which he and his Macedonians pretended was weaker than Persian culture that they rolled over.

Anyways, don't judge me too harshly, I'm three pints in.


Oh look, this again.

You sound like you are from a broke country.
 
2014-01-14 10:48:48 PM

Solon Isonomia: IIRC, he died at the best time to allow the formation of the Roman Republic/Empire to occur - too short of a life and he wouldn't have had subjugated enough nations but too long and everything would've followed the political structure he tried to establish.


This is no time for Opera.  Men are talking
 
2014-01-14 10:59:05 PM

Oldiron_79: Gunny Highway: Classic blunder.

Well he seemed to make the land war in Asia thing work.


Until it didnt. India.
 
2014-01-14 11:12:52 PM

StoPPeRmobile: JasonOfOrillia: I have this idea that the Macedonians were rubes at best, barbarians at worst, for all their Hellenistic pretensions.  I heard one definition of 'Barbarian' as someone whose culture doesn't survive contact with civilization and when Alexander the Great conquered Persia he, apparently, began assuming the trappings of the Persians.  The implication is that the Hellenistic culture to which he and his Macedonians pretended was weaker than Persian culture that they rolled over.

Anyways, don't judge me too harshly, I'm three pints in.

Oh look, this again.

You sound like you are from a broke country.


My country is flush.  But maybe that's because our pension obligations are covered.
 
2014-01-14 11:20:26 PM

Fallout Boy: Oldiron_79: Gunny Highway: Classic blunder.

Well he seemed to make the land war in Asia thing work.

Until it didnt. India.


To be fair, he didnt so much lose in India as said "hell, the food sucks here, I need some pork and leek sausage", turned around, and got lost in a desert.
 
2014-01-14 11:21:44 PM

JasonOfOrillia: I have this idea that the Macedonians were rubes at best, barbarians at worst, for all their Hellenistic pretensions.  I heard one definition of 'Barbarian' as someone whose culture doesn't survive contact with civilization and when Alexander the Great conquered Persia he, apparently, began assuming the trappings of the Persians.  The implication is that the Hellenistic culture to which he and his Macedonians pretended was weaker than Persian culture that they rolled over.

Anyways, don't judge me too harshly, I'm three pints in.


Bet you're fun at a party.
 
2014-01-14 11:26:25 PM
Angelina Jolie and Val Kilmer were his parents, he probably died of shame.
 
2014-01-14 11:31:07 PM

miss diminutive: Angelina Jolie and Val Kilmer were his parents, he probably died of shame.


but at least he got to bang rosario dawson and jared leto, so i guess THAT'S something...
 
2014-01-14 11:32:25 PM

talkertopc: The first biography I read when I was a kid was of him. It probably was the first non-kid book I read too as I was around 10 or 11.

Anyone can recommend a recent biography of him?


For short & simple go for Paul Cartledge's (the same as in the article) book. Hits all the main points and is readable without being boring. If you dig it and want more I'd suggest Steven Pressfields "Virtues of War" and, if you really want more, the "Alexander" trilogy by Valerio Massimo Manfredi. Both are historical fiction but are very well rooted in research.
 
2014-01-14 11:35:07 PM

cynicalminion: miss diminutive: Angelina Jolie and Val Kilmer were his parents, he probably died of shame.

but at least he got to bang rosario dawson and jared leto, so i guess THAT'S something...


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But that haircut.....
 
2014-01-14 11:47:08 PM

Hector Remarkable: That's why he is now known as Alexander the Grape.


No, he was known as Alexander the Grape

He is now known as Alexander the Raisin
 
2014-01-14 11:47:09 PM

miss diminutive: cynicalminion: miss diminutive: Angelina Jolie and Val Kilmer were his parents, he probably died of shame.

but at least he got to bang rosario dawson and jared leto, so i guess THAT'S something...

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But that haircut.....


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2014-01-14 11:51:44 PM

miss diminutive: But that haircut.....


And Angelina Jolie with that horrendous accent. She sounded like a god damn Romanian gymnast for crying out loud.

And Anthony Hopkins telling us what happened instead of showing us. Holy shiat was that movie terrible.

Really, Alexander's life can't be done in one movie. It really needs to be an HBO mini-series with a massive budget, because there's a lot of fighting.
 
2014-01-14 11:55:04 PM

Ishkur: Holy shiat was that movie terrible.


I've tried watching it three times, can't stay awake through it.
 
2014-01-14 11:57:35 PM

JasonOfOrillia: I have this idea that the Macedonians were rubes at best, barbarians at worst, for all their Hellenistic pretensions.  I heard one definition of 'Barbarian' as someone whose culture doesn't survive contact with civilization and when Alexander the Great conquered Persia he, apparently, began assuming the trappings of the Persians.  The implication is that the Hellenistic culture to which he and his Macedonians pretended was weaker than Persian culture that they rolled over.


See, the Romans didn't have that problem. Whoever they stomped, they naturally came to the conclusion that they were the superior culture, otherwise they wouldn't have stomped them.

/Except when it came to Greece
//come to think of it, there seems to be some sort of historical trend, one might say an aura of respect and honor, whenever an Empire stomps on a formerly superior Empire, to respect the former Empire's traditions and culture. So the Greeks respected the Persians and the Romans respected the Greeks and the Goths respected the Romans (sort of) and the Arabs respected the Byzantines and everybody respected Egypt and the Mongols didn't respect anybody because they were the exception.
 
2014-01-15 12:03:27 AM

Gunny Highway: Active introvert: Um.. this is not new news. It was long believed he contracted a bacterial infection that he got from drinking from a contaminated cup. Also, he may have drank it knowing it would get him sick because he was still not over the lost of his lover.

Read the article.


Er, well, 2500 years later, based on 3d hand reports, no body and Reliable Sources, it's still nothing more than speculation.

It MIGHT have been poisoned wine; it might have been ordinary wine;  it might have been West Nile virus; it might have been 7 bad wounds and years of hard living; hell, it could have been AIDS.

There's no way to know.
 
2014-01-15 12:10:00 AM

Ishkur: JasonOfOrillia: I have this idea that the Macedonians were rubes at best, barbarians at worst, for all their Hellenistic pretensions.  I heard one definition of 'Barbarian' as someone whose culture doesn't survive contact with civilization and when Alexander the Great conquered Persia he, apparently, began assuming the trappings of the Persians.  The implication is that the Hellenistic culture to which he and his Macedonians pretended was weaker than Persian culture that they rolled over.

See, the Romans didn't have that problem. Whoever they stomped, they naturally came to the conclusion that they were the superior culture, otherwise they wouldn't have stomped them.

/Except when it came to Greece
//come to think of it, there seems to be some sort of historical trend, one might say an aura of respect and honor, whenever an Empire stomps on a formerly superior Empire, to respect the former Empire's traditions and culture. So the Greeks respected the Persians and the Romans respected the Greeks and the Goths respected the Romans (sort of) and the Arabs respected the Byzantines and everybody respected Egypt and the Mongols didn't respect anybody because they were the exception.


So Alexander the great became Persianized but the Romans in the East really became Hellenized.  Kind of telling in some ways.
 
2014-01-15 12:42:30 AM

Coach McGirk: JasonOfOrillia: I have this idea that the Macedonians were rubes at best, barbarians at worst, for all their Hellenistic pretensions.  I heard one definition of 'Barbarian' as someone whose culture doesn't survive contact with civilization and when Alexander the Great conquered Persia he, apparently, began assuming the trappings of the Persians.  The implication is that the Hellenistic culture to which he and his Macedonians pretended was weaker than Persian culture that they rolled over.

Anyways, don't judge me too harshly, I'm three pints in.

Bet you're fun at a party.


I smell burning eye.
 
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