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(The New Republic)   "Boy, Google's new find-anyone's-email-address is sure scary and encourages stalking" -someone who's never seen a telephone book   (newrepublic.com) divider line 122
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2014-01-14 04:15:19 PM
Yeah, I don't understand the sturm and drang around this.  We all have spam filters.
 
2014-01-14 04:16:51 PM

FrancoFile: Yeah, I don't understand the sturm and drang around this.  We all have spam filters.


It's mostly that no one agreed to a social network when they signed up for email?

Just like no one wanted a damned social networking account when they signed up for a video website?
 
2014-01-14 04:18:11 PM

FrancoFile: Yeah, I don't understand the sturm and drang around this.  We all have spam filters.


This. Some people go as far as using a whitelist, blocking all unsolicited email. The age of the spam-filled inbox is over.
 
2014-01-14 04:18:16 PM
Any Gmail user who was signed up to Google Plus, the company announced, could now email any other Gmail user who was signed up to Google Plus-even if the sender did not know the recipient's email address.

If they start giving out the email of anyone who was signed up for the Mighty Max Fan Club in 1993 they'd affect more people.
 
2014-01-14 04:18:37 PM
images.sodahead.com
 
2014-01-14 04:18:50 PM
I set my account to block google+ers.

I use a fake name to stop people finding me.


I'm slowly moving away from google products. Thinking of getting own domain for email.

Stopped using google search when they took away the interactive homepage.
 
2014-01-14 04:20:35 PM
A lot of people nowadays never have seen a phone book.
 
2014-01-14 04:21:14 PM

Bareefer Obonghit: Any Gmail user who was signed up to Google Plus, the company announced, could now email any other Gmail user who was signed up to Google Plus-even if the sender did not know the recipient's email address.

If they start giving out the email of anyone who was signed up for the Mighty Max Fan Club in 1993 they'd affect more people.


Want one or not.. they automatically add you with new accounts. Leave a review on the play store they automatically add you.

Google is force adding you with more and more things... eventually you won't be able to do anything with a plus account.

Doesn't mean anyone uses google+... mostly a void of unused accounts.
 
2014-01-14 04:21:50 PM
I tumble for you, subby.
 
2014-01-14 04:22:23 PM
Good thing I never use my real name when signing up for anything with Google.
 
2014-01-14 04:22:37 PM
F you, Google and your +
 
2014-01-14 04:23:01 PM
Wow that made more sense when I read it as "Boy George"
 
2014-01-14 04:23:59 PM
 
2014-01-14 04:24:16 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: I tumble for you, subby.


I give this post a red, gold, and green star.
 
2014-01-14 04:24:30 PM
Yeah!  And they also bought Nest!  Why is Google so interested in knowing when my house is on fire?  Haven't they ever heard of privacy, man?  Sometimes I just want to enjoy my house burning down around my head without worrying that someone's going to sell my name to an apartment complex or something!  This indignation will not stand!!!
 
2014-01-14 04:24:36 PM
I no doubt have a google+ account since I use Gmail.  I'm not sure because I have never seen or heard from it.

I'm not going to start freaking out and setting up proxies either.
 
2014-01-14 04:24:50 PM

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: [images.sodahead.com image 320x240]


cinemafanatic.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-14 04:25:38 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Wow that made more sense when I read it as "Boy George"


*Wipes forehead*

Glad I wasn't the only one.
 
2014-01-14 04:26:04 PM

ikanreed: FrancoFile: Yeah, I don't understand the sturm and drang around this.  We all have spam filters.

It's mostly that no one agreed to a social network when they signed up for email?

Just like no one wanted a damned social networking account when they signed up for a video website?


Then delete your Google account and move on.

What I find amusing is the people I personally know doing the most hand wringing over this don't even use Gmail.
 
2014-01-14 04:26:20 PM

Gyrfalcon: A lot of people nowadays never have seen a phone book.


I don't even have a phone line and I get at least one phone book thrown at my house a year. And it goes straight from the porch to the recycle bin.
 
2014-01-14 04:26:52 PM
Actually, nowadays, most people _haven't_ heard of phone books.  I know this for sure with some of our youngest workers.  They've literally never used one before.  Our youngest girl got freaked out when I showed her her parents number and address in an old white pages.
 
2014-01-14 04:26:56 PM

FrancoFile: Yeah, I don't understand the sturm and drang around this.  We all have spam filters.


Party at FrancoFile's house this Friday.

/there isn't a party at francofiles house this friday
 
2014-01-14 04:28:39 PM

ikanreed: FrancoFile: Yeah, I don't understand the sturm and drang around this.  We all have spam filters.

It's mostly that no one agreed to a social network when they signed up for email?

Just like no one wanted a damned social networking account when they signed up for a video website?


What social network?  Like subby said, this is precisely like the white pages.
Do people stalk you at work because every email address at your company is fir­stna­me­*l­a­s­tn­ame[nospam-﹫-backwards]zy­x­*com?
 
2014-01-14 04:28:51 PM

jigger: Good thing I never use my real name when signing up for anything with Google.


Legal grey area. Someone will do time one day. Mark my words.
 
2014-01-14 04:30:25 PM

CleanAndPure: I set my account to block google+ers.

I use a fake name to stop people finding me.


I'm slowly moving away from google products. Thinking of getting own domain for email.

Stopped using google search when they took away the interactive homepage.


That's why I use  https://www.reagan.com/

/Not really.
 
2014-01-14 04:30:28 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Wow that made more sense when I read it as "Boy George"


So did I. I assumed subby really wanted to hurt me.
 
2014-01-14 04:30:41 PM
On the one hand, the phone book only had the names of people in your general area - perhaps a 5 or 10 town radius.  But it did have their home address, in case you wanted to terminate them.

On the other hand, not many people within a 5 or 10 town radius makes you want to terminate them because they spent an afternoon pissing you off over trivial things, such as politics or religion.  Nor will they give birth to John Connor.  While sending them a strongly worded email might be in order, it's mostly harmless.
 
2014-01-14 04:32:06 PM
Meh. Since I started on FB I hardly even look at my e-mail anymore. Its good for signing onto a message board, or the rare times I need to retrieve a password. But otherwise...
 
2014-01-14 04:32:26 PM
aka: everyone under 25
 
2014-01-14 04:32:32 PM

Nana's Vibrator: On the one hand, the phone book only had the names of people in your general area - perhaps a 5 or 10 town radius.  But it did have their home address, in case you wanted to terminate them.

On the other hand, not many people within a 5 or 10 town radius makes you want to terminate them because they spent an afternoon pissing you off over trivial things, such as politics or religion.  Nor will they give birth to John Connor.  While sending them a strongly worded email might be in order, it's mostly harmless.


And you could always call 1-ABC-555-1212 to get listings in the ABC area code.
 
2014-01-14 04:33:12 PM

StoPPeRmobile: FrancoFile: Yeah, I don't understand the sturm and drang around this.  We all have spam filters.

Party at FrancoFile's house this Friday.

/there isn't a party at francofiles house this friday


You giveth and then you taketh away :(
 
2014-01-14 04:37:47 PM
I don't care.  I googled my address to make sure my friends would get the right directions, the map was the second result, the first was Zillow listing my house value and how it's gone up and down since I bought it.  Zillow isn't the first result anymore but it's in the top 5.

They have a mobile app so you can drive around and see the value of houses where you are, and what ones are for sale/recently sold.

Another time I googled another friend's name and got his last two addresses, and a list of his family members and the cities they lived in.  They wanted $5 for more information, but I had seen enough.  What kind of website offers more information you can process and then wants a $5 membership for more?
 
2014-01-14 04:38:36 PM
I once tried to start a cooperative music/movie/book library, where members could contact each other and ask to borrow media they had listed. A common objection was security: Isn't it dangerous to invite strangers to come to your house?

You know, like garage sale ads, classified ads in general, pizza delivery...
 
2014-01-14 04:39:00 PM
www.funnyphotos.net.au
 
2014-01-14 04:39:07 PM

FrancoFile: Do people stalk you at work because every email address at your company is firstname*lastname[nospam-﹫-xyz*com?


The fu*k did you know I work at xyz.com?!
 
2014-01-14 04:40:03 PM
Yeah, and phone books were always a privacy problem.
You had to pay to have your number be private, which is a huge scam.
 
2014-01-14 04:40:14 PM

FrancoFile: Nana's Vibrator: On the one hand, the phone book only had the names of people in your general area - perhaps a 5 or 10 town radius.  But it did have their home address, in case you wanted to terminate them.

On the other hand, not many people within a 5 or 10 town radius makes you want to terminate them because they spent an afternoon pissing you off over trivial things, such as politics or religion.  Nor will they give birth to John Connor.  While sending them a strongly worded email might be in order, it's mostly harmless.

And you could always call 1-ABC-555-1212 to get listings in the ABC area code.


www.virginmedia.com

What an ABC may look like

/this thread is now an 80s music thread
//no? ok.
 
2014-01-14 04:40:32 PM

blatz514: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Wow that made more sense when I read it as "Boy George"

*Wipes forehead*

Glad I wasn't the only one.


Same here.
 
2014-01-14 04:44:08 PM
Google will probably come up with a pay for privacy program. Kind of like an unlisted phone number.
 
hej
2014-01-14 04:44:27 PM
All the articles I've read have said this is opt-out, but it was already turned off when I checked my settings.
 
2014-01-14 04:46:38 PM

jigger: Gyrfalcon: A lot of people nowadays never have seen a phone book.

I don't even have a phone line and I get at least one phone book thrown at my house a year. And it goes straight from the porch to the recycle bin.


Heh--not like they used to be.
 
2014-01-14 04:48:52 PM

Needlessly Complicated: FrancoFile: Nana's Vibrator: On the one hand, the phone book only had the names of people in your general area - perhaps a 5 or 10 town radius.  But it did have their home address, in case you wanted to terminate them.

On the other hand, not many people within a 5 or 10 town radius makes you want to terminate them because they spent an afternoon pissing you off over trivial things, such as politics or religion.  Nor will they give birth to John Connor.  While sending them a strongly worded email might be in order, it's mostly harmless.

And you could always call 1-ABC-555-1212 to get listings in the ABC area code.

[www.virginmedia.com image 431x300]

What an ABC may look like

/this thread is now an 80s music thread
//no? ok.


This thread has the look of love!
 
2014-01-14 04:49:33 PM
Phone book... that's one of those things you use to prop doors open, right? Or is that the fax machine?

/When people ask me to fax them something, I tell them I'll check down at the museum.
 
2014-01-14 04:49:44 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-14 04:54:29 PM
Jesus, a google of my first/last name and country leads to me dominating the first 3 pages including phone number, address, relationships clients, facebook, twitter etc. I'm not so worried about a farking list of email addresses thanks.
 
2014-01-14 04:59:54 PM

jmayson: ikanreed: FrancoFile: Yeah, I don't understand the sturm and drang around this.  We all have spam filters.

It's mostly that no one agreed to a social network when they signed up for email?

Just like no one wanted a damned social networking account when they signed up for a video website?

Then delete your Google account and move on.

What I find amusing is the people I personally know doing the most hand wringing over this don't even use Gmail.


This.  Just delete the primary way you interact with people and businesses.  It's so easy even a moron could think of it.
 
2014-01-14 05:00:44 PM
Begoggle

Yeah, and phone books were always a privacy problem.
You had to pay to have your number be private, which is a huge scam.


You still do but the real problem is your bank, your credit cards, utility companies all sell your personal information.
 
2014-01-14 05:02:43 PM

FitzShivering: Actually, nowadays, most people _haven't_ heard of phone books.  I know this for sure with some of our youngest workers.  They've literally never used one before.  Our youngest girl got freaked out when I showed her her parents number and address in an old white pages.


The average age in the US is somewhere in the high 30s. Most people know what a phone book is. Most people remember a time before they had internet access. Most people remember having to use payphones. Most people have used cassette tapes. Most people knew a time when Disney made good animated movies.
 
2014-01-14 05:03:11 PM

GhostfacedFiddlah: jmayson: ikanreed: FrancoFile: Yeah, I don't understand the sturm and drang around this.  We all have spam filters.

It's mostly that no one agreed to a social network when they signed up for email?

Just like no one wanted a damned social networking account when they signed up for a video website?

Then delete your Google account and move on.

What I find amusing is the people I personally know doing the most hand wringing over this don't even use Gmail.

This.  Just delete the primary way you interact with people and businesses.  It's so easy even a moron could think of it.


Gmail is free.  You get what you pay for.  Want privacy?  Get dedicated hosting.
 
2014-01-14 05:06:13 PM
Where before I simply ignored Google+ this convinced me to go ahead and delete my Google+ account. Or does that not actually solve this?
 
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