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2014-01-14 02:54:58 PM
1) Don't use snapchat
 
2014-01-14 03:20:19 PM

show me: 1) Don't use snapchat


Done in one.
 
2014-01-14 03:23:15 PM
Buy Treet instead?
 
2014-01-14 03:26:19 PM
Use 10minutemail to sign-up for crap like that?
 
2014-01-14 03:27:20 PM
1.)  Buy a domain name
2.)  Use a unique email address for everything you interact with (IE far­k­[nospam-﹫-backwards]e­t­isy­m­*c­om / snap­chat[nospam-﹫-backwards]etisym**com / w­e­lls­f­argo[nospam-﹫-backwards]e­t­i­s­y­m­*com / junkm­a­il[nospam-﹫-backwards]e­t­isym­*co­m)

Now, when you get spam you know where it came from and you can setup rules to filter it perfectly.  If you start getting spam from a real company you gave your e-mail address, now you know they are the one selling it to spammers....so you can chew them out/not do business with them.

It totally works.  If it ever became really popular - you'd just need to throw in some digits to obfuscate common addresses (like webmaste­r­[nospam-﹫-backwards]e­tis­y­m­*co­m)
 
2014-01-14 03:35:53 PM
Easy, sure, that's all well and good.  But is it a WEIRD trick?  If not, I don't really give a shiat.
 
2014-01-14 03:38:05 PM
FTFA:  This past holiday season, 4.6 million Snapchat usernames and cell phone numbers were leaked to the public by means of a hacker datadump. The attack occurred via the app's Find Friends option, which lets you search for people you know via their phone number. Frustratingly enough, security experts warned about the potential for exploiting the feature as early as August 2013, and then again just days before it happened.

Special kind of hell, is all I gotta say...

/but I'm also not surprised by this bit of news
 
2014-01-14 04:40:43 PM
Just use Chat Roulette.
 
2014-01-14 04:40:59 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: 1.)  Buy a domain name
2.)  Use a unique email address for everything you interact with.

[snip]

Now, when you get spam you know where it came from and you can setup rules to filter it perfectly.  If you start getting spam from a real company you gave your e-mail address, now you know they are the one selling it to spammers....so you can chew them out/not do business with them.



Companies don't even have to explicitly sell your data - they can get hacked, and the email starts getting spam that way as well. I've had that happen a couple of times with company-specific email addresses. Of course, if they can't secure your email address, lots of luck with them securing more important things...
 
2014-01-14 05:05:42 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: 1.)  Buy a domain name
2.)  Use a unique email address for everything you interact with (IE fark[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com / snapchat[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13][* image 7x13]com / wellsfargo[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com / junkmail[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com)

Now, when you get spam you know where it came from and you can setup rules to filter it perfectly.  If you start getting spam from a real company you gave your e-mail address, now you know they are the one selling it to spammers....so you can chew them out/not do business with them.

It totally works.  If it ever became really popular - you'd just need to throw in some digits to obfuscate common addresses (like webmaster[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com)


I do exactly this. It's surprising how much spam I get to addresses I set up for legit businesses. One of the things I've discovered is that when I write to them to complain, I almost never get an answer. I don't think most of them care.

One of the other things you've got to look out for with your own domain is spammers using it to spoof the return address on their spam emails. For example, I had a flurry of bounce messages "returned" to addresses like ads81buthyzh@[mydomain].com. From the content it was clear some spammer had used my domain as the reply-to, because using a legit domain got his crap past filters. Then the spam addressed TO those addresses starts coming in because harvesters at some of his target addresses scraped the reply-to and added it to their list of spam targets. That's the most aggravating stuff. About the only defense is either a whitelist or a regular expression filter that rejects emails to addresses that have more than, say, five consonants followed by a couple of numbers, or whatever the pattern might be.
 
2014-01-14 05:27:25 PM

xanadian: Easy, sure, that's all well and good.  But is it a WEIRD trick?  If not, I don't really give a shiat.


And do -insert company- HATE this guy?
 
2014-01-14 05:37:16 PM
ITT: People who didn't RTFA.

Snapchat seemed idiotic, but my kids have shown me the value. Getting goofy snaps from them is pretty awesome and fun. Sure, they could've sent them without it, but they didn't. YMMV
 
2014-01-14 06:50:09 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: 1.)  Buy a domain name
2.)  Use a unique email address for everything you interact with (IE fark[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com / snapchat[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13][* image 7x13]com / wellsfargo[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com / junkmail[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com)

Now, when you get spam you know where it came from and you can setup rules to filter it perfectly.  If you start getting spam from a real company you gave your e-mail address, now you know they are the one selling it to spammers....so you can chew them out/not do business with them.

It totally works.  If it ever became really popular - you'd just need to throw in some digits to obfuscate common addresses (like webmaster[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com)


This, except I would recommend using an alias instead of an actual email address.  Point your alias at you regular account, then you don't have to set up your mail reader to handle the new account.

Some people suggest a catch-all, but that typically results in even more spam because some spammers attempt to send to thousands of common names on a domain.  I've used a variation of this with some success, ogre-*­[nospam-﹫-backwards]nia­mod­ym*c­om, where the * can be anything.  Then I block anything that gets abused.  Thus, I could use o­g­r­e-f­ark[nospam-﹫-backwards]niam­odym*c­om.

For those not educated in email administration, a catch-all is an account that accepts mail for any email that doesn't have an actual acount or alias.
 
2014-01-14 06:59:48 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: 1.)  Buy a domain name
2.)  Use a unique email address for everything you interact with (IE fark[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com / snapchat[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13][* image 7x13]com / wellsfargo[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com / junkmail[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com)

Now, when you get spam you know where it came from and you can setup rules to filter it perfectly.  If you start getting spam from a real company you gave your e-mail address, now you know they are the one selling it to spammers....so you can chew them out/not do business with them.

It totally works.  If it ever became really popular - you'd just need to throw in some digits to obfuscate common addresses (like webmaster[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com)


already do this, but with @gmail instead

google has no problem relaying all inbound mail to a google address to any other external address you care to nominate
 
2014-01-14 07:23:12 PM
jjorsett
About the only defense is either a whitelist or a regular expression filter that rejects emails to addresses that have more than, say, five consonants followed by a couple of numbers, or whatever the pattern might be.

How about you just don't use a catchall for your domain?


Well, I guess you could call that a whitelist, but that makes it sound like you have to do something instead of just not doing something.
 
2014-01-14 07:56:50 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: It totally works.


No, it totally doesn't. Unless you also set up a separate account for every email address you use and/or only fetch email for them you'll have to use your domain's catch-all address. The problem with that is you'll also end up getting all the mail people send where they try to guess addresses at your domain.

/It's probably less of a problem if you're not actually a running a website at your domain
//Deal with this bullshait every day
///Gotten to the point where I'm about define every email address I've used in the last 15 years and kill everything else at the server.
 
2014-01-14 10:08:21 PM
Send me your social security number and a credit card number and I'll stop all your spam.
 
2014-01-14 11:06:01 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: 1.)  Buy a domain name
2.)  Use a unique email address for everything you interact with (IE fark[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com / snapchat[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13][* image 7x13]com / wellsfargo[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com / junkmail[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com)

Now, when you get spam you know where it came from and you can setup rules to filter it perfectly.  If you start getting spam from a real company you gave your e-mail address, now you know they are the one selling it to spammers....so you can chew them out/not do business with them.

It totally works.  If it ever became really popular - you'd just need to throw in some digits to obfuscate common addresses (like webmaster[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com)


Or you could use gmail. and accept that 99% of the spam you get goes into the right folders, and deal with that unbearable 1-2 emails every day (DEAR GOD) that require you to click a check box and then hit the 'spam' button. It takes 10 whole seconds!

I know what you're getting at, but it's sort of drastic overkill for anyone who's not already running their own site for something, or looking for a fabricated reason to.
 
2014-01-15 02:17:54 AM

kroonermanblack: Fark_Guy_Rob: 1.)  Buy a domain name
2.)  Use a unique email address for everything you interact with (IE fark[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com / snapchat[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13][* image 7x13]com / wellsfargo[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com / junkmail[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com)

Now, when you get spam you know where it came from and you can setup rules to filter it perfectly.  If you start getting spam from a real company you gave your e-mail address, now you know they are the one selling it to spammers....so you can chew them out/not do business with them.

It totally works.  If it ever became really popular - you'd just need to throw in some digits to obfuscate common addresses (like webmaster[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com)

Or you could use gmail. and accept that 99% of the spam you get goes into the right folders, and deal with that unbearable 1-2 emails every day (DEAR GOD) that require you to click a check box and then hit the 'spam' button. It takes 10 whole seconds!

I know what you're getting at, but it's sort of drastic overkill for anyone who's not already running their own site for something, or looking for a fabricated reason to.


I used to run my own mail server because I didn't trust anyone else to do it right.  I had excellent spam protection (blocking China completely was the single best step I ever took).  However, it was a lot of work to keep my filters up to date.  Eventually, gmail's spam filtering met my stringent standards and I pointed my domain at them (yes, they fully support using a personal domain).
 
2014-01-15 05:52:29 AM

Fubegra: Fark_Guy_Rob: 1.)  Buy a domain name
2.)  Use a unique email address for everything you interact with.

[snip]

Now, when you get spam you know where it came from and you can setup rules to filter it perfectly.  If you start getting spam from a real company you gave your e-mail address, now you know they are the one selling it to spammers....so you can chew them out/not do business with them.


Companies don't even have to explicitly sell your data - they can get hacked, and the email starts getting spam that way as well. I've had that happen a couple of times with company-specific email addresses. Of course, if they can't secure your email address, lots of luck with them securing more important things...


Step 1: Collude with "hacker"
Step 2:
Step 3: Profit!
 
2014-01-15 05:54:09 AM

jjorsett: Fark_Guy_Rob: 1.)  Buy a domain name
2.)  Use a unique email address for everything you interact with (IE fark[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com / snapchat[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13][* image 7x13]com / wellsfargo[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com / junkmail[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com)

Now, when you get spam you know where it came from and you can setup rules to filter it perfectly.  If you start getting spam from a real company you gave your e-mail address, now you know they are the one selling it to spammers....so you can chew them out/not do business with them.

It totally works.  If it ever became really popular - you'd just need to throw in some digits to obfuscate common addresses (like webmaster[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com)

I do exactly this. It's surprising how much spam I get to addresses I set up for legit businesses. One of the things I've discovered is that when I write to them to complain, I almost never get an answer. I don't think most of them care.

One of the other things you've got to look out for with your own domain is spammers using it to spoof the return address on their spam emails. For example, I had a flurry of bounce messages "returned" to addresses like ads81buthyzh@[mydomain].com. From the content it was clear some spammer had used my domain as the reply-to, because using a legit domain got his crap past filters. Then the spam addressed TO those addresses starts coming in because harvesters at some of his target addresses scraped the reply-to and added it to their list of spam targets. That's the most aggravating stuff. About the only defense is either a whitelist or a regular expression filter that rejects emails to addresses that have more than, say, five consonants followed by a couple of numbers, or whatever the pattern might be.


The defense will be a law. The anti-emboldening law.
 
2014-01-15 05:57:08 AM

xanadian: Easy, sure, that's all well and good.  But is it a WEIRD trick?  If not, I don't really give a shiat.


One weird trick to get you to click. Hey look it worked.
 
2014-01-15 10:21:15 AM
A really easy way to keep spam to a trickle is to STOP CLICKING ON EVERYTHING!
 
2014-01-15 07:29:27 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: 1.)  Buy a domain name
2.)  Use a unique email address for everything you interact with (IE fark[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com / snapchat[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13][* image 7x13]com / wellsfargo[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com / junkmail[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com)

Now, when you get spam you know where it came from and you can setup rules to filter it perfectly.  If you start getting spam from a real company you gave your e-mail address, now you know they are the one selling it to spammers....so you can chew them out/not do business with them.

It totally works.  If it ever became really popular - you'd just need to throw in some digits to obfuscate common addresses (like webmaster[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]etisym[* image 7x13]com)


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