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(MLive.com)   Proponents of Michigan's new open-carry gun law say they're loving their new sense of freedom, and they just wish the cops would remember that open carry is now legal and not to stage high-risk takedowns every time there's a gun call   (mlive.com) divider line 509
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2014-01-15 02:09:35 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: It's the constitutionally-specified responsibility that goes with the constitutionally-named right.


If you want to own guns you have to be in the militia?  That's what you're going with?

I thought you said you're not ignoring Heller?
 
2014-01-15 02:09:54 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Mikey1969: Pathetic. Like wearing your socks and underwear in the shower...

No, what's pathetic is that more than 100,000 Americans every year suffer from Firearm "Unlucky" Sudden Onset Bullethole Syndrome. We also have a fat, untrained and mistrained populace who lack any real proficiency with their firearms, are unable to walk a quarter mile without medical intervention, let alone use the most rudimentary of small unit tactics, but are still considered to be the "last line of defense" for this country. What's infuriating is that Congress could fix this easily.

What's disgusting is that I don't get to don my combat boots, slap some kiwi on them, and "polish" them to a high gloss on the backsides of Fark secessionists so my children won't have to do a Sherman on them.


Nothing telling about this statement, Mr Dredd.
 
2014-01-15 02:10:20 AM

Twitch Boy: So if owning a gun means I have a small penis, if I sell it and spend my days feeding ducks in the park and attending operas will people think I'm packing a 12-incher?


Dude, my 8-incher weighed 31 tons. If you can pack a 12-incher, people will definitely notice.
 
2014-01-15 02:10:39 AM
Weatherkiss what happens when the people who prey on you start carrying?
They are bigger, meaner and now they are armed (probably with bigger guns).

anyway I wish you the best.

\btw I grew up in Saginaw MI
\\worked in Flint MI
\\\now live in Detroit
\\\\check out those crime stats
\\never felt the need to own or carry a gun but I do like to shoot.
 
2014-01-15 02:12:31 AM

Fark It: demaL-demaL-yeH: Mikey1969: Pathetic. Like wearing your socks and underwear in the shower...

No, what's pathetic is that more than 100,000 Americans every year suffer from Firearm "Unlucky" Sudden Onset Bullethole Syndrome. We also have a fat, untrained and mistrained populace who lack any real proficiency with their firearms, are unable to walk a quarter mile without medical intervention, let alone use the most rudimentary of small unit tactics, but are still considered to be the "last line of defense" for this country. What's infuriating is that Congress could fix this easily.

What's disgusting is that I don't get to don my combat boots, slap some kiwi on them, and "polish" them to a high gloss on the backsides of Fark secessionists so my children won't have to do a Sherman on them.

I finally get it.  You're couching your hatred of people you disagree with politically in this delusional militia scheme because you want actual brownshirts.  You want to control, you want to subjugate.  You want to punish.  You're a totalitarian.


You've graduated from piss yellow to troll grey 1.
/Mazal tov.
 
2014-01-15 02:12:47 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: It's the constitutionally-specified responsibility that goes with the constitutionally-named right.


Nope.
 
2014-01-15 02:13:14 AM

Space Station Wagon: Weatherkiss what happens when the people who prey on you start carrying?
They are bigger, meaner and now they are armed (probably with bigger guns).



I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. I'm a realist. I prefer to exist in the now while hoping for a better future.
 
2014-01-15 02:15:43 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Fark It: demaL-demaL-yeH: Mikey1969: Pathetic. Like wearing your socks and underwear in the shower...

No, what's pathetic is that more than 100,000 Americans every year suffer from Firearm "Unlucky" Sudden Onset Bullethole Syndrome. We also have a fat, untrained and mistrained populace who lack any real proficiency with their firearms, are unable to walk a quarter mile without medical intervention, let alone use the most rudimentary of small unit tactics, but are still considered to be the "last line of defense" for this country. What's infuriating is that Congress could fix this easily.

What's disgusting is that I don't get to don my combat boots, slap some kiwi on them, and "polish" them to a high gloss on the backsides of Fark secessionists so my children won't have to do a Sherman on them.

I finally get it.  You're couching your hatred of people you disagree with politically in this delusional militia scheme because you want actual brownshirts.  You want to control, you want to subjugate.  You want to punish.  You're a totalitarian.

You've graduated from piss yellow to troll grey 1.
/Mazal tov.


The Godwin card gets thrown around so lightly, but hey, if you're really a Nazi, you gotta call a jackboot a jackboot.
 
2014-01-15 02:16:08 AM

Fark It: demaL-demaL-yeH: It's the constitutionally-specified responsibility that goes with the constitutionally-named right.

If you want to own guns you have to be in the militia?  That's what you're going with?

I thought you said you're not ignoring Heller?


"You MUST own a firearm" is ignoring Heller?
 
2014-01-15 02:18:02 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Fark It: demaL-demaL-yeH: Mikey1969: Pathetic. Like wearing your socks and underwear in the shower...

No, what's pathetic is that more than 100,000 Americans every year suffer from Firearm "Unlucky" Sudden Onset Bullethole Syndrome. We also have a fat, untrained and mistrained populace who lack any real proficiency with their firearms, are unable to walk a quarter mile without medical intervention, let alone use the most rudimentary of small unit tactics, but are still considered to be the "last line of defense" for this country. What's infuriating is that Congress could fix this easily.

What's disgusting is that I don't get to don my combat boots, slap some kiwi on them, and "polish" them to a high gloss on the backsides of Fark secessionists so my children won't have to do a Sherman on them.

I finally get it.  You're couching your hatred of people you disagree with politically in this delusional militia scheme because you want actual brownshirts.  You want to control, you want to subjugate.  You want to punish.  You're a totalitarian.

You've graduated from piss yellow to troll grey 1.
/Mazal tov.


Keep polishing those boots, gramps.  I'm sure the day will come when you can finally get to satisfy that urge to get back at all of those nasty people who don't agree with your politics and control your fellow citizens.  I'll be polishing my boots to dance on your grave when you and your useless generation croaks, because pissing on it would be a waste of pee.
 
2014-01-15 02:26:37 AM

Farker Soze: secessionists


Our bloodiest war was fought because of secessionists. The Republicans preserved the Union by defeating the secessionists.
You know, Republican, the party which now has a base of inbred morons in the South who carry Confederate flags, mouth off about states' rights, squeal like pigs about gun grabbers, and talk armed rebellion and secession. These are the rocket surgeons who would drag the United States into the sixteenth century.

The spinning of Lincoln's remains could power the entire planet.

/Combat boots are not jackboots.
//I'm an optimist who holds tight to the possibility that brains can be kickstarted.
///You've graduated to invisible. Mazal tov.
 
2014-01-15 02:29:49 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Mikey1969: Pathetic. Like wearing your socks and underwear in the shower...

No, what's pathetic is that more than 100,000 Americans every year suffer from Firearm "Unlucky" Sudden Onset Bullethole Syndrome. We also have a fat, untrained and mistrained populace who lack any real proficiency with their firearms, are unable to walk a quarter mile without medical intervention, let alone use the most rudimentary of small unit tactics, but are still considered to be the "last line of defense" for this country. What's infuriating is that Congress could fix this easily.

What's disgusting is that I don't get to don my combat boots, slap some kiwi on them, and "polish" them to a high gloss on the backsides of Fark secessionists so my children won't have to do a Sherman on them.


"Last line of defense". That's cute, only we're not talking Red Dawn here. We'retalking people who might want to live through an encounter with a mugger, a crazy individual off their meds, some gangbanger with something to prove, or someone sticking up the 7-11. At least until the cops get there, since these people aren't usually polite enough to wait on their own.

You can blow it out of proportion with your weak "last line of defense' crap all you want, it doesn't change the fact that you misrepresented the situation by a full 180° because km along a caricature always helps when you have no actual rebuttal to offer.

Now have a nice night, hopefully no disaster will befall you.
 
2014-01-15 02:32:23 AM

Mikey1969: rzrwiresunrise: Mikey1969: rzrwiresunrise: Then there's no reason to have the gun. They can do their normal stuff unarmed.

One argument presented has been that the worst can happen so a firearm is necessary. If that's the case, the counter-argument can't be that these are just normal situations where people just happen to be carrying. It's disingenuous.

They can do whatever the fark they want, and it really isn't your place to dictate what they can or can't do. As long as they aren't brandishing the weapon, they don't threaten to use the weapon on someone(In some places, even telling an aggressor that you will shoot them is considered assault, although self defense is legal), they don't shoot someone without justification, and they don't use it to commit a crime, then they're doing nothing at all wrong.


Gee, internet tough guy, you gonna point your virtual finger in my chest now, too? I haven't said anyone can't carry; learn to farking read. I said you can't use the argument that it's just people doing normal things while armed when carrying a weapon means you expect the abnormal, without being disingenuous. But hey, some like sitting on a two-legged stool.

Mikey1969: As for your scenario, that's absolutely ridiculous. If bad things happen to people, it's not like there is some kind if schedule. They arenjust normal people who happen to be carrying until something happens and they no longer are normal people who happen to be carrying.


You just like to make shiat up as you read, don't you? The argument has been that open-carry proponents are just going about their day in normal situations, except they're armed. Carrying a weapon means they don't view the situation as normal, but as potentially threatening. Not one proponent in this thread has mentioned any other reason for carrying their weapon but that they will have the means to either preempt a threat or eliminate one. Ergo, they don't view the situation in which they're carrying as normal. It's a disingenuous argument. Use another.

Btw, they may be "normal" people, but a weapon changes them, their threat perception and their reaction to a threat. First  the act of holding a firearm can make it more likely the one perceive a weapon that isn't there.Second,there's the  weapons bias.pdf. One's split decision can be prejudiced, and that becomes something deadly when one has a firearm with which to deal with a perceived threat.

I mean, not YOU, of course, not YOU, but other people. Definitely not YOU. Because, well, YOU...

Mikey1969: This fear of holstered guns is a little sad. I'm not sure I could walk down the street if I was that terrified of inanimate objects. Tanker trucks, semis with hazardous cargo, natural gas vehicles, a propane grill, these things must terrify all of the scared-of-guns crowd. Those things can level an entire building, and a truck full of propane barreling down the road at 80 miles per hour is far more dangerous than a pistol sitting in the holster of the guy in front of you at the 7-11.


I'm surprised you can walk down the street with all the threats you see surrounding you, but you, internet tough guy, have your trusty Colt, Remington, Sig, whatever at your side, ready to lay down the hammer on anyone that dares to come at you disrespectfully, right? Yeah, normal.

And just stop with the comparisons to general objects that weren't designed to kill. Otherwise hush and let the adults talk.

To me, a gun is a hunk of metal. I wholly agree that it's the wielder, not the weapon. But time and again, people have shown themselves to be error-prone, while a bullet, not so much: it'll hit whatever it's pointed at, be it the intended target or an innocent bystander. They're unnecessary in public unless one's living in Fallujah or Ramallah, Mogadishu or Juba. We live in a civil society, where we don't call each other out for a duel because our honor was stained. We don't use arms to amass territory within our borders. We're not a collective of tribes and clans, vassals to warlords fighting for power. This is the United States of America. We are better than that.
 
2014-01-15 02:33:04 AM

Mikey1969: Now have a nice night, hopefully no disaster will befall you.


If one does, just point him to some graphs and charts that show that it was statistically unlikely for that to have befallen him. The fact he was simply unlucky from a mathematical standpoint will comfort him in his grief.
 
2014-01-15 02:39:30 AM

Farker Soze: demaL-demaL-yeH: Mikey1969: Pathetic. Like wearing your socks and underwear in the shower...

No, what's pathetic is that more than 100,000 Americans every year suffer from Firearm "Unlucky" Sudden Onset Bullethole Syndrome. We also have a fat, untrained and mistrained populace who lack any real proficiency with their firearms, are unable to walk a quarter mile without medical intervention, let alone use the most rudimentary of small unit tactics, but are still considered to be the "last line of defense" for this country. What's infuriating is that Congress could fix this easily.

What's disgusting is that I don't get to don my combat boots, slap some kiwi on them, and "polish" them to a high gloss on the backsides of Fark secessionists so my children won't have to do a Sherman on them.

Nothing telling about this statement, Mr Dredd.


And like most ardent gun control advocates, he probably has that image in his head of the gun owner polishing his weapons in the hopes that a minority breaks in or pulls a knife on him in the street so he can finally shoot somebody.  The freaking irony man.

demaL-demaL-yeH: Farker Soze: secessionists

Our bloodiest war was fought because of secessionists. The Republicans preserved the Union by defeating the secessionists.
You know, Republican, the party which now has a base of inbred morons in the South who carry Confederate flags, mouth off about states' rights, squeal like pigs about gun grabbers, and talk armed rebellion and secession. These are the rocket surgeons who would drag the United States into the sixteenth century.

The spinning of Lincoln's remains could power the entire planet.

/Combat boots are not jackboots.
//I'm an optimist who holds tight to the possibility that brains can be kickstarted.
///You've graduated to invisible. Mazal tov.


You're the only one who has mentioned secession in this thread, and you've conflated the Republican party, conservatism, and what I assume everything that isn't your enlightened, holier-than-thou party line, with secession.  You want to control others.  You'd make a great cop, then you could legally polish your boots on the backsides of whoever you wanted and harass gun owners all day.
 
2014-01-15 02:39:48 AM

Mikey1969: We'retalking people who might want to live through an encounter with a mugger, a crazy individual off their meds, some gangbanger with something to prove, or someone sticking up the 7-11.


Muggers want your wallet and jewelry, not your life.
We have some experience with concealed carry around crazy people off their meds here in Tucson. Drawing a firearm was considered at the time, but rejected - thank God - by the concealed carrier. As a result, the crazy individual was successfully disarmed and subdued.
Gangs have specific geographic territories and boundaries. Either stay out of those areas, or gather evidence and hand it over to the police, or get together with your neighbors and run the punks out.
What do I need at a 7-11?

None of your hypothetical situations calls for a firearm, which would only escalate the encounter or lead to more dead innocents.

And what the fark is wrong with your situational awareness that you would walk into any of those?
 
2014-01-15 02:41:27 AM
If you opened carried in ATL you would just get gun jacked by a large group, or just shot in the back.
 
2014-01-15 02:46:10 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Muggers want your wallet and jewelry, not your life.


Not true, and even if it was, so what?  Why are you obligated to be a victim, to not fight back?  Why is the only one obligated to fear for his or her life the victim?

We have some experience with concealed carry around crazy people off their meds here in Tucson. Drawing a firearm was considered at the time, but rejected - thank God - by the concealed carrier

Or thank the concealed carrier, not your imaginary friend.

Gangs have specific geographic territories and boundaries. Either stay out of those areas,

Let the gangs control you.

or gather evidence and hand it over to the police,

Because they encourage this and will get right on it.

or get together with your neighbors and run the punks out.

They encourage this even more.

None of your hypothetical situations calls for a firearm, which would only escalate the encounter or lead to more dead innocents.

Shooting an assailant is not an "escalation" of anything, it's a de-escalation of assault, strong-arm robbery, or potential rape.

And what the fark is wrong with your situational awareness that you would walk into any of those?

And he caps it off with blaming the victim.
 
2014-01-15 02:47:42 AM
 
2014-01-15 02:50:48 AM

Weatherkiss: Space Station Wagon: Weatherkiss what happens when the people who prey on you start carrying?
They are bigger, meaner and now they are armed (probably with bigger guns).


I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. I'm a realist. I prefer to exist in the now while hoping for a better future.


hahahahaha, sorry couldn't resist.
 
2014-01-15 02:51:07 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Fark It: You're the only one who has mentioned secession in this thread, and you've conflated the Republican party, conservatism, and what I assume everything that isn't your enlightened, holier-than-thou party line, with secession.

Yup. It was just my imagination running away with me.


There's nothing stopping you from forming your own militia to fight the tea party and polish your boots on their backsides, grandpa.  Might be kind of hard to do that though, you'll both probably be on hoverrounds.

Why are you waiting?
 
2014-01-15 02:55:46 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Farker Soze: secessionists

Our bloodiest war was fought because of secessionists. The Republicans preserved the Union by defeating the secessionists.
You know, Republican, the party which now has a base of inbred morons in the South who carry Confederate flags, mouth off about states' rights, squeal like pigs about gun grabbers, and talk armed rebellion and secession. These are the rocket surgeons who would drag the United States into the sixteenth century.

The spinning of Lincoln's remains could power the entire planet.

/Combat boots are not jackboots.
//I'm an optimist who holds tight to the possibility that brains can be kickstarted.
///You've graduated to invisible. Mazal tov.


oh, I'm now invisible to you. Another telling remark. Im all broken up, how will I sleep without my opinion being validated by Pol Pot?
 
2014-01-15 02:59:19 AM

Obama's Reptiloid Master: FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?

From a tactical standpoint, it makes a lot more sense. It's more comfortable, it has an easier draw, and in an actual threatening situation, allows you to present your weapon to de-escalate without violating the law.

From a realistic (ie, not in the diseased power fantasies of small-dicked minds) standpoint, all it does is make everyone afraid of you and put your weapon in easy reach of a guy that wants it more than you.

Open carry is great for police officers and trained professionals. Open carry is bad for Johnny Wantstobeahero.


A lot of people like to compromise between concealed and open carry. In the winter it's nice to have a normal (open) carry holster and be able to carry a more full sized pistol for the reasons quoted, but then cover with a jacket so it's not freaking people out, but if it prints or the bottom sticks out when you lift your arms, etc. you don't get exposed to any "must keep hidden" type laws.
 
2014-01-15 03:09:21 AM
Bad idea has bad results. Nobody dead - yet.
i18.photobucket.com
Film at 11:00.
 
2014-01-15 03:11:48 AM

mizchief: If you opened carried in ATL you would just get gun jacked by a large group, or just shot in the back.


I have to agree with this, with open carry, in most instances, you're usually being an attention whore and needlessly making yourself a target for a gun jacking.
 
2014-01-15 03:13:52 AM

rzrwiresunrise: Mikey1969: rzrwiresunrise: Mikey1969: rzrwiresunrise: Then there's no reason to have the gun. They can do their normal stuff unarmed.

One argument presented has been that the worst can happen so a firearm is necessary. If that's the case, the counter-argument can't be that these are just normal situations where people just happen to be carrying. It's disingenuous.

They can do whatever the fark they want, and it really isn't your place to dictate what they can or can't do. As long as they aren't brandishing the weapon, they don't threaten to use the weapon on someone(In some places, even telling an aggressor that you will shoot them is considered assault, although self defense is legal), they don't shoot someone without justification, and they don't use it to commit a crime, then they're doing nothing at all wrong.

Gee, internet tough guy, you gonna point your virtual finger in my chest now, too? I haven't said anyone can't carry; learn to farking read. I said you can't use the argument that it's just people doing normal things while armed when carrying a weapon means you expect the abnormal, without being disingenuous. But hey, some like sitting on a two-legged stool.

Mikey1969: As for your scenario, that's absolutely ridiculous. If bad things happen to people, it's not like there is some kind if schedule. They arenjust normal people who happen to be carrying until something happens and they no longer are normal people who happen to be carrying.

You just like to make shiat up as you read, don't you? The argument has been that open-carry proponents are just going about their day in normal situations, except they're armed. Carrying a weapon means they don't view the situation as normal, but as potentially threatening. Not one proponent in this thread has mentioned any other reason for carrying their weapon but that they will have the means to either preempt a threat or eliminate one. Ergo, they don't view the situation in which they're carrying as normal. It's a disingenuous argument. Use another.

Btw, they may be "normal" people, but a weapon changes them, their threat perception and their reaction to a threat. First  the act of holding a firearm can make it more likely the one perceive a weapon that isn't there.Second,there's the  weapons bias.pdf. One's split decision can be prejudiced, and that becomes something deadly when one has a firearm with which to deal with a perceived threat.

I mean, not YOU, of course, not YOU, but other people. Definitely not YOU. Because, well, YOU...

Mikey1969: This fear of holstered guns is a little sad. I'm not sure I could walk down the street if I was that terrified of inanimate objects. Tanker trucks, semis with hazardous cargo, natural gas vehicles, a propane grill, these things must terrify all of the scared-of-guns crowd. Those things can level an entire building, and a truck full of propane barreling down the road at 80 miles per hour is far more dangerous than a pistol sitting in the holster of the guy in front of you at the 7-11.

I'm surprised you can walk down the street with all the threats you see surrounding you, but you, internet tough guy, have your trusty Colt, Remington, Sig, whatever at your side, ready to lay down the hammer on anyone that dares to come at you disrespectfully, right? Yeah, normal.

And just stop with the comparisons to general objects that weren't designed to kill. Otherwise hush and let the adults talk.

To me, a gun is a hunk of metal. I wholly agree that it's the wielder, not the weapon. But time and again, people have shown themselves to be error-prone, while a bullet, not so much: it'll hit whatever it's pointed at, be it the intended target or an innocent bystander. They're unnecessary in public unless one's living in Fallujah or Ramallah, Mogadishu or Juba. We live in a civil society, where we don't call each other out for a duel because our honor was stained. We don't use arms to amass territory within our borders. We're not a collective of tribes and clans, vassals to warlords fighting for power. This is the United States of America. We are better than that.


Me? You're The one with the weak bladder around inanimate objects.
 
2014-01-15 03:23:22 AM

Mikey1969: Me? You're The one with the weak bladder around inanimate objects.


Me: Reasoned argument.

You: You're a 'fraidy cat.

Bravo, sir. You have won this discussion. I bow to your rhetorical prowess and cede the stage to you.
 
2014-01-15 03:23:30 AM
 
2014-01-15 03:27:55 AM

justtray: Weatherkiss: Space Station Wagon: Weatherkiss what happens when the people who prey on you start carrying?
They are bigger, meaner and now they are armed (probably with bigger guns).


I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. I'm a realist. I prefer to exist in the now while hoping for a better future.

hahahahaha, sorry couldn't resist.


You should try. Your well thought out remarks are stupid enough. Go and throw in spur of the moment japes and you're travelling through another dimension of sight and sound and mindlessness.
 
2014-01-15 03:30:03 AM

jaytkay: Open carry enthusiasts. The common clay. Salt of the earth.

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x415]


They look like your kind of people.
 
2014-01-15 03:32:41 AM

rzrwiresunrise: Mikey1969: Me? You're The one with the weak bladder around inanimate objects.

Me: Reasoned argument.

You: You're a 'fraidy cat.

Bravo, sir. You have won this discussion. I bow to your rhetorical prowess and cede the stage to you.


i18.photobucket.com
Did you enjoy your meal? Please place your tray in the upright position.
 
2014-01-15 03:34:06 AM

Farker Soze: jaytkay: Open carry enthusiasts. The common clay. Salt of the earth.

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x415]

They look like your kind of people.


That's who I want protecting ME from society's lawless and oppressive elements. :D
 
2014-01-15 03:34:19 AM
What did Mike win?  If it was a cookie, can I have a bite?
 
2014-01-15 03:59:08 AM

jso2897: rzrwiresunrise: Mikey1969: Me? You're The one with the weak bladder around inanimate objects.

Me: Reasoned argument.

You: You're a 'fraidy cat.

Bravo, sir. You have won this discussion. I bow to your rhetorical prowess and cede the stage to you.

[i18.photobucket.com image 520x324]
Did you enjoy your meal? Please place your tray in the upright position.


jso2897: rzrwiresunrise: Mikey1969: Me? You're The one with the weak bladder around inanimate objects.

Me: Reasoned argument.

You: You're a 'fraidy cat.

Bravo, sir. You have won this discussion. I bow to your rhetorical prowess and cede the stage to you.

[i18.photobucket.com image 520x324]
Did you enjoy your meal? Please place your tray in the upright position.


It was so punk rock.
 
2014-01-15 04:09:41 AM

jaytkay: Open carry enthusiasts. The common clay. Salt of the earth.

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x415]


Really? Because they look like North Dakota neo-Nazis. A group I haven't seen any support for around here. And I sure hope the authorities can find some way to curtail their shiat with existing laws. Oh wait, that already happened.
 
2014-01-15 04:18:56 AM
2nd amendment activists are brave warriors, admired by men and desired by women.

xaxor.com
 
2014-01-15 04:22:23 AM

jaytkay: 2nd amendment activists are brave warriors, admired by men and desired by women.

[xaxor.com image 600x396]


No one wants to see your girlfriend. Quit posting her, she's not that hot.
 
2014-01-15 04:30:09 AM
Gun activists are realists who recognize the threats that surround us

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2014-01-15 06:32:18 AM

FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?


No shiat, why do cops open-carry?
 
2014-01-15 06:34:29 AM

jaytkay: Gun activists are realists who recognize the threats that surround us

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i2.cdn.turner.com
 
2014-01-15 06:44:40 AM

StoPPeRmobile: FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?

No shiat, why do cops open-carry?


So they can get at it in a hurry when they need to shoot up a pickup truck full of Mexican women delivering newspapers.
 
2014-01-15 06:51:52 AM

FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?


I've always thought it's just a simple way to let people know that, after long and thoughtful internal consideration, you want everyone to know that you've decided you're willing to kill other human beings.
 
2014-01-15 07:38:19 AM
meat0918:   I'm curious it the OC law actually extends to public buildings.  I assume the courthouse is one they don't allow carry of any sort by civilians, and in the smaller county seats, the courthouse is in the county building with the assessor's office and a lot of other public functionaries.

Cops are civilians.
 
2014-01-15 07:46:48 AM
Don't personally have a problem with open carry people.  Except this guy Elvis.  Lemme tell you about Elvis.  He would come into our cigar store in GA on a very regular basis to buy his Black and Milds and seconds.  Rotund older white guy with magnificent muttonchops and goldrimmed sunglasses resembling his eponym.  Elvis likes/ed to open carry ALL of his handguns at once.  That was all fine until someone would compliment him on one of his guns at which point he would say something along the lines of "Oh you like this?  Well check this one out!" and he would whip out at least one, usually two in an impressive quick draw.  We had to ask Elvis to leave a few times.  He was lucky on at least one occasion that the sheriff's deputy who also frequented the shop was sitting behind the wall didn't happen to walk out right at that moment.
 
2014-01-15 07:57:51 AM
Not only have the terrorists won, but America is looking more and more like the Middle East every day. Soon people will be walking around with their slung AKs when they go off to buy an apple. Now just teach the women to LULULULULULU instead of clapping at the theatre and we're all set.
 
2014-01-15 08:09:34 AM
If you don't like the laws governing the area you live, you are free to move.  Legislating to get people you don't like to leave?  That couldn't happen, right?
 
2014-01-15 08:12:07 AM
Everything you need to know about open carry in an hilarious nutshell.


Goes in every open carry thread

Come for the tard losing his gun, stay for the ROFLMAO "advocate" they found
 
2014-01-15 08:58:37 AM

rzrwiresunrise: Mikey1969: Me? You're The one with the weak bladder around inanimate objects.

Me: Reasoned argument.

You: You're a 'fraidy cat.

Bravo, sir. You have won this discussion. I bow to your rhetorical prowess and cede the stage to you.


Translation: You're taking your ball and going home... Sorry i made you cry, I hope you'll be Ok.
 
2014-01-15 09:56:44 AM

StoPPeRmobile: jaytkay: Gun activists are realists who recognize the threats that surround us


I assume that is a photo of someone who is famous as some kind of hero to gun nuts and Stormfronters.

It doesn't mean anything to normal people.
 
2014-01-15 11:02:08 AM

Fark It: demaL-demaL-yeH: Muggers want your wallet and jewelry, not your life.

Not true, and even if it was, so what?  Why are you obligated to be a victim, to not fight back?  Why is the only one obligated to fear for his or her life the victim?

We have some experience with concealed carry around crazy people off their meds here in Tucson. Drawing a firearm was considered at the time, but rejected - thank God - by the concealed carrier

Or thank the concealed carrier, not your imaginary friend.

Gangs have specific geographic territories and boundaries. Either stay out of those areas,

Let the gangs control you.

or gather evidence and hand it over to the police,

Because they encourage this and will get right on it.

or get together with your neighbors and run the punks out.

They encourage this even more.

None of your hypothetical situations calls for a firearm, which would only escalate the encounter or lead to more dead innocents.

Shooting an assailant is not an "escalation" of anything, it's a de-escalation of assault, strong-arm robbery, or potential rape.

And what the fark is wrong with your situational awareness that you would walk into any of those?

And he caps it off with blaming the victim.


A hypothetical victim of a hypothetical crime that happened under hypothetical circumstances in hypothetical places is almost enough straw to fill a hypothetical hayloft.
 
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