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(MLive.com)   Proponents of Michigan's new open-carry gun law say they're loving their new sense of freedom, and they just wish the cops would remember that open carry is now legal and not to stage high-risk takedowns every time there's a gun call   (mlive.com) divider line 509
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2014-01-14 02:53:03 PM  
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2014-01-14 02:55:48 PM  
Call the police if someone open-carries a gun into a public building: That's the advice the Ottawa County Sheriff's Office is giving to Hudsonville city staff during trainings this month

I don't carry normally, but for this asshole, I would make an exception.  In fact I'd show up every damn day.
 
2014-01-14 03:15:50 PM  
what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?
 
2014-01-14 03:16:58 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Call the police if someone open-carries a gun into a public building: That's the advice the Ottawa County Sheriff's Office is giving to Hudsonville city staff during trainings this month

I don't carry normally, but for this asshole, I would make an exception.  In fact I'd show up every damn day.


was thinking this
wtf

so now that it is LEGAL, we want people TO PANIC !!!
they should call 911 whenever they see a cop carrying a gun too !!!
SWEET


is michigan a stand your ground state?
if you feel that your life is in danger can you just go blazing away??
 
2014-01-14 03:18:30 PM  

FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?


yes

on the OTHER HAND, I think that all carry should be open.
no more concealed carry.

at least that way, you have a clue who is packing and who isnt.

I cant wait to see the no gun signs in chicago stores/restaurants , now that concealed carry is permitted.
 
2014-01-14 03:21:30 PM  

FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?


Many state laws used to make it illegal to carry concealed, so open carry was the only legal way to carry.  It was thought that carrying concealed showed some sort of ill-intent, because you were doing it on the sly.  So you must be up to no good.

That's flipped, of course:  Now most states have some form of concealed carry and they denigrate open carry, because, what?  It shocks the sensibilities of soccer moms?

"Sure, you can carry a gun, just don't let us see it, because Tammy gets the vapors from seeing a holstered 1911".
 
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2014-01-14 03:21:37 PM  

FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?


So you can let everyone know that you are a real he-man despite appearances.
 
2014-01-14 03:32:37 PM  

dittybopper: That's flipped, of course: Now most states have some form of concealed carry and they denigrate open carry, because, what? It shocks the sensibilities of soccer moms?


Or you can come to California where open carry is essentially illegal, and outside one or two counties, it is impossible to get a CCW.
 
2014-01-14 03:35:36 PM  
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2014-01-14 03:40:39 PM  
99% percent of open carriers look like tools, but it's still better than concealed carry. Concealed carry is like, "ok, if shiat goes down, I can be the hero." At least open is carry is, "Hopefully shiat won't go down if they see my piece."
 
2014-01-14 03:43:08 PM  

FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?


Childish attention seeking mechanism for people with serious emotional development issues.

There are exceptions but a smart Bayesian would start here and look for disproof.
 
2014-01-14 03:46:04 PM  

JerseyTim: 99% percent of open carriers look like tools, but it's still better than concealed carry. Concealed carry is like, "ok, if shiat goes down, I can be the hero." At least open is carry is, "Hopefully shiat won't go down if they see my piece."


And the sad thing is, the difference should be completely irrelevant to us gun control advocates.  The not-entirely-justified assumption of them not shooting people for no reason belies both activities.  Whether you see it or not, it can still be used to kill someone without a thought.
 
2014-01-14 03:46:22 PM  
Wait what?

Open Carry has been legal in Michigan for years. My brother's an open carry supporter.
 
2014-01-14 03:48:06 PM  
Well, at least Robocop won't have to use that ridiculous leg holster while he's walking around waiting to shoot people.
 
2014-01-14 03:48:58 PM  
Why stop there?  Let's institute "Open Aiming" laws so anyone can point their gun directly at anyone they choose at any time.

And of course, coupled with Free Speech laws that means you could scream into their face while you're doing it, too.

I mean, as long as nobody is actually pulling a trigger, what's the big deal?
 
2014-01-14 03:49:30 PM  
The secret to avoiding lawsuits from open carry proponents is to make sure the lawsuits are brought by their next of kin.
 
2014-01-14 03:49:45 PM  
With open carry, why do we even need the police anymore? Michigan will turn into a crime-free utopia!
 
2014-01-14 03:50:12 PM  

FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?


yes
 
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2014-01-14 03:50:38 PM  

JerseyTim: 99% percent of open carriers look like tools, but it's still better than concealed carry. Concealed carry is like, "ok, if shiat goes down, I can be the hero." At least open is carry is, "Hopefully shiat won't go down if they see my piece."


Not only that but people know you are carrying.  If you are a neighborhood watchman they know to run.
 
2014-01-14 03:51:07 PM  

FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?


So the robbers know to shoot you before taking your wallet.
 
2014-01-14 03:51:10 PM  

UncomfortableSilence: Well, at least Robocop won't have to use that ridiculous leg holster while he's walking around waiting to shoot people.


Hey, man, if I'm a cyberpunk character, I'm going to use cool gadgets for every mundane task.

Drinking Water? Cyber straw with moisture-seeking electrodes.
Driving?  Forget a steering wheel, remote mental steering
Being a misogynistic pig?  Don't beat your wife, join reddit
 
2014-01-14 03:52:16 PM  

ikanreed: JerseyTim: 99% percent of open carriers look like tools, but it's still better than concealed carry. Concealed carry is like, "ok, if shiat goes down, I can be the hero." At least open is carry is, "Hopefully shiat won't go down if they see my piece."

And the sad thing is, the difference should be completely irrelevant to us gun control advocates.  The not-entirely-justified assumption of them not shooting people for no reason belies both activities.  Whether you see it or not, it can still be used to kill someone without a thought.


To add on; there's also a big difference between open carry of a pistol and of a rifle/shotgun.  If I see someone walking with a holstered pistol/revolver, I'm not paying him much mind.  I see a guy walking through the grocery store parking lot with a long gun, I'm calling the police.
 
2014-01-14 03:53:15 PM  

FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?


It's so that you'll know to not disrespect the carrier.
 
2014-01-14 03:53:28 PM  

Car_Ramrod: With open carry, why do we even need the police anymore? Michigan will turn into a crime-free utopia!


Well, that's the thing about coppers. The more coppers ya have, the more crimes seem to be done.
 
2014-01-14 03:53:30 PM  

FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?


From a tactical standpoint, it makes a lot more sense. It's more comfortable, it has an easier draw, and in an actual threatening situation, allows you to present your weapon to de-escalate without violating the law.

From a realistic (ie, not in the diseased power fantasies of small-dicked minds) standpoint, all it does is make everyone afraid of you and put your weapon in easy reach of a guy that wants it more than you.

Open carry is great for police officers and trained professionals. Open carry is bad for Johnny Wantstobeahero.
 
2014-01-14 03:53:41 PM  
Yeah seasoning authoritarianism doesn't exactly go with Freedom Fries.  You'd think, of all groups, conservatives would understand this but they seem completely blind to it.  Like, are your new hyper-militarized police forces going to give you a wink and a nod when you're carrying an AR15 in a school zone because they somehow can discern that you're not one of those people?
 
2014-01-14 03:54:40 PM  
We had German friends visit us in Phoenix a decade ago, and when going out for lunch we pulled up at a stoplight behind a guy on a crotchrocket with a holstered gun on each hip (because that's the only way you were able to carry). The Germans got all excited "OOH OOH A COWBOY!" and then I got to explain that no, it was just some idiot, because it's really hot there and it boils their already retarded brains, much like an egg.

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2014-01-14 03:54:42 PM  
Open carry has always been legal in Michigan, it's just more popular with the attention whores now.
 
2014-01-14 03:55:10 PM  
Open carry is great.  My gut is no longer the first thing people notice about my waist.
 
2014-01-14 03:56:21 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: ikanreed: JerseyTim: 99% percent of open carriers look like tools, but it's still better than concealed carry. Concealed carry is like, "ok, if shiat goes down, I can be the hero." At least open is carry is, "Hopefully shiat won't go down if they see my piece."

And the sad thing is, the difference should be completely irrelevant to us gun control advocates.  The not-entirely-justified assumption of them not shooting people for no reason belies both activities.  Whether you see it or not, it can still be used to kill someone without a thought.

To add on; there's also a big difference between open carry of a pistol and of a rifle/shotgun.  If I see someone walking with a holstered pistol/revolver, I'm not paying him much mind.  I see a guy walking through the grocery store parking lot with a long gun, I'm calling the police.


I'm in a rural area so when I see a guy walking through a parking lot with a rifle I'm like oh it's hunting season.
 
2014-01-14 03:56:49 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Open carry is great.  My gut is no longer the first thing people notice about my waist.


Try this one simple trick?
 
2014-01-14 03:56:59 PM  

FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?


Yes, the police indeed open carry.
 
2014-01-14 03:57:43 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Open carry is great.  My gut is no longer the first thing people notice about my waist.


I'm so fat that if I open carried with a belt holster it would technically be concealed carry.
 
2014-01-14 04:01:49 PM  

FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?


cowboy cosplay

yeeee haw, gonna shoot me a minority and save me a damsel
 
2014-01-14 04:02:17 PM  
I would have been happier if they just got rid of the stupid gun-free zone law.
 
2014-01-14 04:02:20 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Open carry is great.  My gut is no longer the first thing people notice about my waist.


Unlikely.

annarborchronicle.com

/watch out...
 
2014-01-14 04:02:25 PM  
The reason people open carry is......................it's been a secret until now...................because it's funny to watch people wet themselves when they see a safely holstered pistol.

I'd open carry from time to time if it was legal here.

/ 8.5" thanks for asking.
 
2014-01-14 04:02:37 PM  
Because if anyone understands that even the people with the most training and experience can still become colossal idiots when you put a gun on their hip, it's law enforcement.
 
2014-01-14 04:04:33 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Rapmaster2000: Open carry is great.  My gut is no longer the first thing people notice about my waist.

Unlikely.



/watch out...


Jesus fark, even his hair is scared of him.
 
2014-01-14 04:05:38 PM  

Obama's Reptiloid Master: FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?

From a tactical standpoint, it makes a lot more sense. It's more comfortable, it has an easier draw, and in an actual threatening situation, allows you to present your weapon to de-escalate without violating the law.

From a realistic (ie, not in the diseased power fantasies of small-dicked minds) standpoint, all it does is make everyone afraid of you and put your weapon in easy reach of a guy that wants it more than you.

Open carry is great for police officers and trained professionals. Open carry is bad for Johnny Wantstobeahero.


this is the best explanation i have yet heard. thanks.
 
2014-01-14 04:06:46 PM  
was were
 
2014-01-14 04:07:27 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: The reason people open carry is......................it's been a secret until now...................because it's funny to watch people wet themselves when they see a safely holstered pistol.

I'd open carry from time to time if it was legal here.

/ 8.5" thanks for asking.


See here, we have great first-hand evidence of the teenage power fantasy being the driving mentality.    A lot of people have asked the question, and there's your anwer.  "I think it gives me power over others" is basically it.
 
2014-01-14 04:07:42 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: because it's funny to watch people wet themselves when they see a safely holstered pistol.


one of the saddest things i've ever read on the internet
 
2014-01-14 04:08:07 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: The reason people open carry is......................it's been a secret until now...................because it's funny to watch people wet themselves when they see a safely holstered pistol.

I'd open carry from time to time if it was legal here.

/ 8.5" thanks for asking.


So your intention is to make those around you uncomfortable?
 
2014-01-14 04:08:19 PM  
That's always been my question; how do we differentiate between the hood going to knock over the quicky-mart, and Mr responsible gun owner? Until it's too late?
 
2014-01-14 04:09:41 PM  
Hey maybe all of us don't want to live in a country where we feel we must carry a gun around 24/7.
 
2014-01-14 04:09:49 PM  

FlashHarry: what is the point of open carry? is it to show off? is it to make a political point? or is it just to warn other people that you're an asshole?


It's to make yourself a priority target for anyone carrying concealed illegally.

Really it's to show off mostly.
 
2014-01-14 04:10:36 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: The reason people open carry is......................it's been a secret until now...................because it's funny to watch people wet themselves when they see a safely holstered pistol.

I'd open carry from time to time if it was legal here.

/ 8.5" thanks for asking.


Eh, 8 and a half inches isn't that big of a gun.
 
2014-01-14 04:10:42 PM  

ShawnDoc: Or you can come to California where open carry is essentially illegal, and outside one or two counties, it is impossible to get a CCW.


Exactly what problem is California trying to solve by denying CCW apps?  Its not making you any safer.

/now lives in California
//the snowflakes and their idiots they elect here perplex me at times
 
2014-01-14 04:11:11 PM  

Corvus: Hey maybe all of us don't want to live in a country where we feel we must carry a gun around 24/7.


but what about bears, snakes, coloreds and outspoken Liberals?
 
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