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(Quartz)   Luxembourg surpasses Sweden as most generous nation. Put that in your bork and bork it   (qz.com) divider line 34
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2014-01-14 12:41:04 PM
As measured by an international governmental organization related to supporting international governmental organizations' development efforts.  US is usually at the top of personal giving (unless there are some small countries not usually ranked).
 
2014-01-14 12:41:04 PM
U.S.A. !
 
2014-01-14 12:41:28 PM
Put that chickie in your baskie?
 
2014-01-14 12:41:48 PM
SEC! SEC! SEC!

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2014-01-14 12:41:49 PM
Heerr dee bork?
 
2014-01-14 12:42:06 PM
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2014-01-14 12:47:26 PM
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2014-01-14 12:49:25 PM

alex10294: As measured by an international governmental organization related to supporting international governmental organizations' development efforts.  US is usually at the top of personal giving (unless there are some small countries not usually ranked).


U.S. is still at the top in terms of currency total. The figures from the article are a measure of development assistance as a share of national income. Luxembourg is at 1%, while the U.S. is at .19%.
 
2014-01-14 12:49:29 PM
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2014-01-14 12:51:33 PM
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2014-01-14 12:54:59 PM
So most entitled then?
 
2014-01-14 12:55:31 PM
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2014-01-14 12:56:01 PM

alex10294: As measured by an international governmental organization related to supporting international governmental organizations' development efforts.  US is usually at the top of personal giving (unless there are some small countries not usually ranked).


Much of the US personal giving goes to churches for charitable purposes like fighting gay marriage, maintaining segregated schools, and keeping birth control away from the poors..
 
2014-01-14 12:57:26 PM
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Came for the bork, not disappointed.
 
2014-01-14 01:00:15 PM

alex10294: As measured by an international governmental organization related to supporting international governmental organizations' development efforts.  US is usually at the top of personal giving (unless there are some small countries not usually ranked).


Anayalator: alex10294: As measured by an international governmental organization related to supporting international governmental organizations' development efforts.  US is usually at the top of personal giving (unless there are some small countries not usually ranked).

U.S. is still at the top in terms of currency total. The figures from the article are a measure of development assistance as a share of national income. Luxembourg is at 1%, while the U.S. is at .19%.


Not everything is a farking international dick-waving contest, Septics.
 
2014-01-14 01:00:47 PM
But Sweden give a Great Person generation bonus to all their friends. No other civ is nearly that nice to find as a neighbor, except maybe Morocco.
 
2014-01-14 01:00:59 PM
Giving away someone else's money isn't generosity.
 
2014-01-14 01:01:41 PM
Swedish Ramsay is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
 
2014-01-14 01:02:03 PM

jaytkay: alex10294: As measured by an international governmental organization related to supporting international governmental organizations' development efforts.  US is usually at the top of personal giving (unless there are some small countries not usually ranked).

Much of the US personal giving goes to churches for charitable purposes like fighting gay marriage, maintaining segregated schools, and keeping birth control away from the poors..


Don't forget that a good portion of church money also goes to elegant mansions, private jets, chauffeured limousines, maids, butlers, private chefs, hookers and hush money to parents of abused children.
 
2014-01-14 01:02:28 PM

Anayalator: alex10294: As measured by an international governmental organization related to supporting international governmental organizations' development efforts.  US is usually at the top of personal giving (unless there are some small countries not usually ranked).

U.S. is still at the top in terms of currency total. The figures from the article are a measure of development assistance as a share of national income. Luxembourg is at 1%, while the U.S. is at .19%.


What else does Luxembourg have to spend money on?
 
2014-01-14 01:02:42 PM
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2014-01-14 01:02:54 PM
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2014-01-14 01:03:48 PM
I'm a quarter Luxembourgian and a quarter Swedish, so I don't know how to feel about this.

Luxembourg is also 1st/2nd/3rd in GDP per capita, depending on if you listen to the World Bank/IMF/CIA respectively, so maybe that's why they're so generous.
 
2014-01-14 01:12:49 PM

Anayalator: alex10294: As measured by an international governmental organization related to supporting international governmental organizations' development efforts.  US is usually at the top of personal giving (unless there are some small countries not usually ranked).

U.S. is still at the top in terms of currency total. The figures from the article are a measure of development assistance as a share of national income. Luxembourg is at 1%, while the U.S. is at .19%.


Exactly.  Which of course suggests the questions:
What counts as developmental assistance? (The NGOs and their organizations that benefit from government grants).
Who decides what counts? (see above).
Who is counting? (see above).
Are there other channels for very similar assistance aside from those measured? (yes)

Generally, the US allows its citizens to give their own money vs forcing (taxing) them.  They tend to pick a mix of local, national, and international organizations to give to.  Charity projects + NGO aid + official "development assistance" would be a very crude, but much less crude,  measure of how much is being given for these types of causes.

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2014-01-14 01:16:09 PM

alex10294: As measured by an international governmental organization related to supporting international governmental organizations' development efforts.  US is usually at the top of personal giving (unless there are some small countries not usually ranked).


At the bottom, it says US is still the most giving nation in the world by far, just not in the 'official' giving capacity. Maybe Americans trust Churches and other organizations more than their government giving options?
 
2014-01-14 01:16:39 PM

jaytkay: alex10294: As measured by an international governmental organization related to supporting international governmental organizations' development efforts.  US is usually at the top of personal giving (unless there are some small countries not usually ranked).

Much of the US personal giving goes to churches for charitable purposes like fighting gay marriage, maintaining segregated schools, and keeping birth control away from the poors..


"much" meaning about 1/3.  Reduce those numbers by 1/3 and they're still 5 times higher than the countries on that list.
 
2014-01-14 01:19:55 PM
And I'm searching for...Luxembourg, Luxembourg, Athlone, Budapest, AFN, Hilversum, Helvetia
 
2014-01-14 03:37:14 PM

Gordon Bennett: alex10294: As measured by an international governmental organization related to supporting international governmental organizations' development efforts.  US is usually at the top of personal giving (unless there are some small countries not usually ranked).

Anayalator: alex10294: As measured by an international governmental organization related to supporting international governmental organizations' development efforts.  US is usually at the top of personal giving (unless there are some small countries not usually ranked).

U.S. is still at the top in terms of currency total. The figures from the article are a measure of development assistance as a share of national income. Luxembourg is at 1%, while the U.S. is at .19%.

Not everything is a farking international dick-waving contest, Septics.


I was simply stating the facts of the article, Mr. Insecure. Now, go climb in your Corvette and drive away.
 
2014-01-14 03:48:58 PM
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2014-01-14 03:59:46 PM
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2014-01-14 04:01:49 PM

alex10294: As measured by an international governmental organization related to supporting international governmental organizations' development efforts.  US is usually at the top of personal giving (unless there are some small countries not usually ranked).


These figures look like the numbers of the Commitment to Development Index, produced by a non-government organization each year and published by Foreign Policy magazine.

If they are, they include private donations so you are right about the US being very generous but wrong about the figures being based only on public donations.

The US is indeed one of the most generous countries in terms of private philanthropy but it amounts to about 5 cents a day out of 19-20 cents a day per capita. Or 0.05 percent of GDP as shown.

Canada is slightly more generous on the whole (one cent a day), but the difference is because of more government largesse. Canadians give a bit more at the office, so to speak.

Norway and the other countries at the top of this list are very generous in terms of public donations per capita. They are the only five countries that meet the 1960s goal of donating 0.7% of GDP (urged by Canadian PM Lester B. Pearson, a Liberal and a diplomat himself. They are small and rich and social democratic, so they can afford to give and are happy to do so, although Norway is very protective of its agriculture because it hasn't got a lot and needs every grain or root vegetable to provide a hedge against international shocks and war.

The US is not one of the most generous donors over all, although the vastness of its GDP ($16 trillion, more than ten times the size of Canada's GDP) means it is the largest donor. A disappointing performance but a leviathan of international aid and military assistance.

One reason why the US is such a small donor relative to its size is that American citizens believe the US should be very generous but they have no idea how much it really gives. They invariably name a number much larger than the real budget of USAID and the other donor organizations. If only the US did give as much as Americans seem to think it does! The other is sheer size. The US is by far the biggest donor and doesn't have to try harder.

Mind you, that would be a political landmine because even the liberals and the religious conservatives would find it too much, given to the wrong people, given for the wrong causes, and so forth. That's the thing about democracies--they whine about everything. A rich king or dictator can simply give as much as he pleases if he is absolute or powerful. I expect that most Venezuelans would have been happy to see some of the money that Chavèz gave away for the greater glory of socialism.

As Kent Brockman put it "I've said it before, democracy just does not work." And to paraphrase another wise guy, "Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others."

The countries in the middle of the list are penny-pinchers by nature and very "liberal" in both sense of the word. The economic liberals stay the hands of the political and social liberals.

The countries at the bottom were poor not long ago and haven't got cultural traditions of philanthropy. It's every man for himself and Devil take the hindmost although some may move up the list as they get used to having money and doing more things with it for fun, charity, or profit.
 
2014-01-14 04:01:50 PM
Luxembourg is a tax haven for the european aristocracy rich.
 
2014-01-14 04:12:30 PM
Luxembourg is tiny but has a per capita GDP that makes the US look like Mexico or possibly even Nigeria.

They can afford to give generously and this year at least, they are number one. Next year, who knows? The top places change hands without it meaning a whole lot because they are small and rich.

One reason Luxembourg might have moved up is the number of tax shelter companies and even "charities". The Netherlands, for example, has a number of large "charities" that don't give a lot of their money away. One of them owns the Swedish company, Ikea. It's a form of tax shelter slash foundation.

One of my professors was Luxembourgeoise. She was descended from the Maréchal Ney, one of Napoleon's top Marshalls of War. It showed. Feisty little firebrand, she was.

I imagine not many people know a Duchy of Luxembourg native. It is the Grand Duchy of Fenwick of the real world, a mouse that roars, even more so than Liechtenstein, which is much tinier, a genuine postage-stamp Principality. Like the Swiss, the tiny tax shelter kingdoms have invested heavily in high tech industry and financial services of a very expensive and specialized kind.

They may not be holding the coats of Europe, but they are holding their wallets and spectacles when they fight. The island tax shelters generally deal in somewhat more evasive and shady money though. These countries are grounded. They could be slapped around seriously if they pissed off the neighbors or when Germany is in an expansive and aggressive mood.
 
2014-01-15 03:04:14 AM

jaytkay: alex10294: As measured by an international governmental organization related to supporting international governmental organizations' development efforts.  US is usually at the top of personal giving (unless there are some small countries not usually ranked).

Much of the US personal giving goes to churches for charitable purposes like fighting gay marriage, maintaining segregated schools, and keeping birth control away from the poors..


and also for providing housing for the poor, and food, and animal rescue efforts.
 
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