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(BBC)   British TV presenter appears in court charged with sexually assaulting underage girls. This is not a repeat from either of the links below   (bbc.co.uk ) divider line
    More: Sick, british tv, Jimmy Savile, Top of the Pops, sex offenders, London's Southwark Crown Court  
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2014-01-14 11:17:06 AM  
Farkin' well played, subby.

I'd Green all three if I could.
 
2014-01-14 12:24:33 PM  
Whoa. A triple play.
 
2014-01-14 12:26:22 PM  
A greenlight same-source pedo trifecta. Well played subby.

And not well played TV presenters.
 
2014-01-14 01:00:52 PM  
Holy shiat.  This is ... beautiful and distinctly nauseating all at the same time.  What the fark is WRONG with people!??
 
2014-01-14 01:02:47 PM  
I guess the cops are flipping all the couch cushions at the BBC looking for pedophiles after that Jimmy Savile mess.
 
2014-01-14 01:07:40 PM  
Remember to only sexually assault legal aged girls then?
 
2014-01-14 01:08:06 PM  
Stubby...your computer is having stack overflow issues.

/// Just saying
 
2014-01-14 01:08:08 PM  
whoa.
 
2014-01-14 01:08:12 PM  
Context HOTY.
 
2014-01-14 01:08:48 PM  
Seriously?! The same article three times in a - wait, wat?
 
2014-01-14 01:08:55 PM  
So if you want access to underage girls, be a British TV presenter.
 
2014-01-14 01:09:03 PM  
Jesus H. Christ. WTF is wrong with British TV presenters? Other than their teeth, I mean.
 
2014-01-14 01:10:01 PM  
Chris Hansen must be visiting the UK today.
 
2014-01-14 01:10:08 PM  

PowerSlacker: Context HOTY.


Indeed.

/also, I agree WTF is wrong with British TV presenters, can't keep their tallywhackers in their pants around anyone below 15???
 
2014-01-14 01:10:25 PM  

violentsalvation: I guess the cops lawyers are flipping all the couch cushions at the BBC looking for pedophiles after that Jimmy Savile mess.



FTFY
 
2014-01-14 01:10:34 PM  
Subby, you bastard.
 
2014-01-14 01:10:36 PM  
Brits Banging Children?
 
2014-01-14 01:10:37 PM  
Roger Mellie's crimes aren't looking so egregious now, are they?
 
2014-01-14 01:10:44 PM  
C-C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
 
2014-01-14 01:10:55 PM  

cgraves67: Chris Hansen must be visiting the UK today.


Quick, someone shoop the "have a seat over here" JPG with a Sherlock Holmes cap on Hansen's head
 
2014-01-14 01:11:12 PM  
Didn't the daily show go on about this corruption a while back and wonder how in one had been charged?
 
2014-01-14 01:12:14 PM  

Kentucky Fried Children: PowerSlacker: Context HOTY.

Indeed.

/also, I agree WTF is wrong with British TV presenters, can't keep their tallywhackers in their pants around anyone below 15???


Yeah, but would have to have a screen shot for it to make sense in 10 months.
 
2014-01-14 01:14:54 PM  
Impressive single-source trifecta, I say.
 
2014-01-14 01:16:09 PM  
Eek. Rare to see a trifecta completed within three posts, and sad that it had to be something like this.
 
2014-01-14 01:16:11 PM  

almandot: Didn't the daily show go on about this corruption a while back and wonder how in one had been charged?


Was it this situation, or the Jimmy Savile mess you're thinking of?
 
2014-01-14 01:19:20 PM  
fastest Fark Hat-Trick ever?
 
2014-01-14 01:22:33 PM  
FTFA1:  between 1965 and 1968,
FTFA2:  between 1968 and 1986.
FTFA3:  between 1976 and 2008.

Before we had "morning after regret" rape.
Now it appears we have "48 years later I can get a payday" rape.

/Van Halen, et.al., better hope their "groupies" don't get lawyered up and suddenly feel like "victims".
 
2014-01-14 01:23:50 PM  
Technically, this last one is a radio guy, not TV.
 
2014-01-14 01:24:11 PM  

Banned on the Run: FTFA1:  between 1965 and 1968,
FTFA2:  between 1968 and 1986.
FTFA3:  between 1976 and 2008.

Before we had "morning after regret" rape.
Now it appears we have "48 years later I can get a payday" rape.

/Van Halen, et.al., better hope their "groupies" don't get lawyered up and suddenly feel like "victims".


Yes, you go get assraped and see if 'payday' is a word that comes to mind, sunshine.
 
2014-01-14 01:25:11 PM  
<slowclap.gif>
Well done subby. It's truly a sight to behold.

Shame about the kiddy diddling.
 
2014-01-14 01:26:09 PM  

Banned on the Run: FTFA1:  between 1965 and 1968,
FTFA2:  between 1968 and 1986.
FTFA3:  between 1976 and 2008.

Before we had "morning after regret" rape.
Now it appears we have "48 years later I can get a payday" rape.

/Van Halen, et.al., better hope their "groupies" don't get lawyered up and suddenly feel like "victims".


Let me temper my snark -- the 11 year olds absolutely were victims.
With the 18-29 year olds, things get fuzzy
 
2014-01-14 01:26:41 PM  

Banned on the Run: Van Halen, et.al., better hope their "groupies" don't get lawyered up and suddenly feel like "victims".


FTFA: The alleged victims were aged between 15 and 29 at the time of the incidents

If Van Halen's "groupies" were 15 then, yes, they had better hope they don't suddenly feel like "victims".
 
2014-01-14 01:27:54 PM  

Infernalist: Banned on the Run: FTFA1:  between 1965 and 1968,
FTFA2:  between 1968 and 1986.
FTFA3:  between 1976 and 2008.

Before we had "morning after regret" rape.
Now it appears we have "48 years later I can get a payday" rape.

/Van Halen, et.al., better hope their "groupies" don't get lawyered up and suddenly feel like "victims".

Yes, you go get assraped and see if 'payday' is a word that comes to mind, sunshine.


If I get assraped, it will take me less than 20 years to let someone know
 
2014-01-14 01:28:27 PM  
Well played, Subby. Clever headline trifecta that deserved a green or three.

Pretty disgusting that these days you are guilty until proven innocent, though. Even if these charges turn out to be false, the charged will forever be tainted by these allegations. The media has no business reporting identities of those who are being tried, until *after* they have been found guilty.

Note that I'm not saying they didn't do it, nor that they're good people. Perhaps they did it. If they did, they're disgusting perverts. But that doesn't mean they should be tried in the media -- which is what happens in both the US and the UK these days. Even the guilty shouldn't be named and shamed before they're confirmed to be guilty.

Either we need to change that, or we need to admit that we do not abide by any realistic concept of the presumption of innocence.
 
2014-01-14 01:30:49 PM  
Everyone was pedo-filing
Those prats were fast as lightning
In fact it was a little frightening
But they're caught with pervert timing
 
2014-01-14 01:31:37 PM  
Mr Travis allegedly assaulted 11 victims, at places including the BBC and pantomimes, between 1976 and 2008.
One woman, aged 19, had been "assaulted live on Top of the Pops" in 1978, prosecutor Miranda Moore QC said.



Between "pantomimes" and "Top of Pops" the jokes pretty much write themselves. So start writing, jokes.
 
2014-01-14 01:32:06 PM  
So, what, can't the British become priests, like normal pedos?
 
2014-01-14 01:32:15 PM  

gweilo8888: Well played, Subby. Clever headline trifecta that deserved a green or three.

Pretty disgusting that these days you are guilty until proven innocent, though. Even if these charges turn out to be false, the charged will forever be tainted by these allegations. The media has no business reporting identities of those who are being tried, until *after* they have been found guilty.

Note that I'm not saying they didn't do it, nor that they're good people. Perhaps they did it. If they did, they're disgusting perverts. But that doesn't mean they should be tried in the media -- which is what happens in both the US and the UK these days. Even the guilty shouldn't be named and shamed before they're confirmed to be guilty.

Either we need to change that, or we need to admit that we do not abide by any realistic concept of the presumption of innocence.


Careful there or, like me, you're going to feel like you're defending slimeballs.
 
2014-01-14 01:36:03 PM  

Banned on the Run: Careful there or, like me, you're going to feel like you're defending slimeballs.


I'm not defending them, so I don't feel like that. The point of a court case, though, is to ascertain guilt and determine an appropriate punishment. If we already knew they were guilty, we'd just be going straight to punishment. Guilt has not yet been irrefutably ascertained, and I defy anybody to give me a good reason why the accused should be named before their guilt has been proven.

Difficulty: Farkers getting their jollies off the downfall of a public figure is not a good reason
 
2014-01-14 01:37:11 PM  

Banned on the Run: FTFA1:  between 1965 and 1968,
FTFA2:  between 1968 and 1986.
FTFA3:  between 1976 and 2008.

Before we had "morning after regret" rape.
Now it appears we have "48 years later I can get a payday" rape.


 I think it has to do more now with the Jimmy Savile thing. Savile escaped prosecution for hundreds of rapes and child molestations over a 50 year period, due to his influence and position as a TV celebrity. He was one of the UK's most prolific sex offenders, and knighted by the Queen right in the middle of it. Once the investigations of how bad he really was surfaced, the gloves came off in the UK for -ANYONE- doing that at -ANY- point in past history no matter how long ago.

 Once that can of worms was opened, a lot of other dirty laundry came out, and people are now clamoring for blood for what once was a thing people simply kept under their hats, and just accepted as the ugly side of show business.
 
2014-01-14 01:40:10 PM  

gweilo8888: Banned on the Run: Careful there or, like me, you're going to feel like you're defending slimeballs.

I'm not defending them, so I don't feel like that. The point of a court case, though, is to ascertain guilt and determine an appropriate punishment. If we already knew they were guilty, we'd just be going straight to punishment. Guilt has not yet been irrefutably ascertained, and I defy anybody to give me a good reason why the accused should be named before their guilt has been proven.

Difficulty: Farkers getting their jollies off the downfall of a public figure is not a good reason


Hey now, if we don't have schadenfreude, we have nothing
 
2014-01-14 01:41:24 PM  
Well done, modmins and Subby. Well done.
 
2014-01-14 01:43:01 PM  
British host sexual assault trifecta!
I knew it would happen sooner or later.
 
2014-01-14 01:44:43 PM  
So.. does this mean they will cancel Top Gear?

/What, just a guess.  I didn't RTFA none of the 3
 
2014-01-14 01:54:22 PM  

Banned on the Run: With the 18-29 year olds, things get fuzzy


Sometimes, with the 11-year-olds, things get fuzzy, too.

*flees thread*
 
2014-01-14 01:57:22 PM  

gweilo8888: Well played, Subby. Clever headline trifecta that deserved a green or three.

Pretty disgusting that these days you are guilty until proven innocent, though. Even if these charges turn out to be false, the charged will forever be tainted by these allegations. The media has no business reporting identities of those who are being tried, until *after* they have been found guilty.

Note that I'm not saying they didn't do it, nor that they're good people. Perhaps they did it. If they did, they're disgusting perverts. But that doesn't mean they should be tried in the media -- which is what happens in both the US and the UK these days. Even the guilty shouldn't be named and shamed before they're confirmed to be guilty.

Either we need to change that, or we need to admit that we do not abide by any realistic concept of the presumption of innocence.


Some people argue that by releasing the names, other people who have also been attacked feel free to come forward, and that certainly seems to be true for child abuse cases.  

It seems to have worked in the cases of Harris and Travis: as accusations were made public, more women stood up and said he'd done the same to them.  If Roache's offences were more than a few drug-induced bad decisions in the late 60s, his public accusation may give his victims the encouragement they need to come forward.

I myself have mixed feelings about it.  Innocent until proven guilty, I agree, and normally I'd rather see a guilty man go free than an innocent man convicted, even in the court of public opinion.  

However, there is a larger than normal imbalance of power between adult and child, and molestation and rape are so very difficult to prove.  Worse, offenders who are not stopped keep offending, and sometimes when a single accusation is not enough, a whole string can get them convicted.  That takes publicity, which is where I get hung up.
 
2014-01-14 01:58:35 PM  
Trifecta in 3
 
2014-01-14 02:02:44 PM  
Well-earned greenies subby.
 
2014-01-14 02:04:25 PM  
Check me if I'm wrong Sandy, but in the article, does it not present David Lee Travis as a "former BBC 1 RADIO DJ", as opposed to being a "TV Presenter"?  So while your posts were entertaining, I believe that fact would make your triple-play of perversion technically inaccurate.
 
2014-01-14 02:05:23 PM  
FTFA: "Mr Travis suddenly ... exposed [girl's breasts] by lifting her top over her head and ..."

I see only two ways that could happen: (1) assault and battery or (2) cooperation.

Reporters so frequently fail to address the pertinent questions.
 
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