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(BBC)   British TV presenter appears in court charged with sexually assaulting underage girls   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 34
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2014-01-14 12:48:56 PM  
When he was arrested Mr Roache was "absolutely surprised and amazed. He appeared visibly shocked", she said.

As opposed to calmly lighting a cigarette and asking "What took you chaps so bloody long?"
 
2014-01-14 01:09:06 PM  
Can't blame him, being married to Deirdre
 
2014-01-14 01:10:18 PM  
Does the UK not have a statute of limitations?  These allegations from the 60's.  I think the only thing in the US that can reach that far back is murder.
 
2014-01-14 01:12:26 PM  

Cormee: Can't blame him, being married to Deirdre


Blanche would have a field day with this.
 
2014-01-14 01:14:33 PM  
Being a star (one of longest) on Coronation Street does NOT make him a "TV presenter", there Subby.
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2014-01-14 01:20:28 PM  

SmellsLikePoo: Does the UK not have a statute of limitations?  These allegations from the 60's


The entirely of the UK seems to currently be overcompensating for the whole  Jimmy Savile thing, especially since he is dead and they can't atone for it by finally going after that bastard.

/Just for reference,Savile was a TV host that for something like fifty years apparently molested kids as young as 8, in hundreds of separate incidents, and while this was apparently known to some degree he managed to be shielded from exposure by his position and influence.
 
2014-01-14 01:36:43 PM  
Well, at least he sent her a photo...
 
2014-01-14 01:39:59 PM  
He's not a TV presenter, he's a soap actor. About a year before all this came out there were newspaper stories that he was extremely promiscuous and would stick it into anything that moved.
 
2014-01-14 01:47:10 PM  
I get the recent allegation, but how exactly do you prove something like an alleged assault from nearly 40 years ago?  The burden of proof being on the accuser, I'm not so sure anything will come from it other than a metaphorical public castration.
 
2014-01-14 01:50:34 PM  
I find it hard to believe that any court would take seriously allegations from nearly 50 years ago for which there can't possibly be any evidence anymore.  Rape is a terrible thing, but any of his alleged victims should have come out many years ago, 50 years after the fact is far too late to have any expectation of any kind of justice being achieved, if the allegations are even true in the first place, which we can't verify because it's been so long.

I don't even know who this guy is, nor do I care.  But this whole proceeding sounds fairly questionable to me.
 
2014-01-14 01:52:45 PM  

ramblinwreck: I get the recent allegation, but how exactly do you prove something like an alleged assault from nearly 40 years ago?  The burden of proof being on the accuser, I'm not so sure anything will come from it other than a metaphorical public castration.


40 years ago it was usually covered up. Only the avalanche of allegations coming forth due to the Savile thing has made it acceptable to come forth now, so now we get half a century of repressed stories surfacing all at once.
 
2014-01-14 01:57:27 PM  

God's Bathroom Floor: Rape is a terrible thing, but any of his alleged victims should have come out many years ago


Many did, and it was swept under the rug or repressed, sometimes officially. Like with Savile, where Scotland Yard investigations uncovered reports of something like 34 rapes over 28 police jurisdictions. Which admittedly is a small number compared to the total allegations, but certainly enough it should have attracted some questions. Or any questions at all, actually.
 
2014-01-14 01:59:33 PM  

Ivan the Tolerable: ramblinwreck: I get the recent allegation, but how exactly do you prove something like an alleged assault from nearly 40 years ago?  The burden of proof being on the accuser, I'm not so sure anything will come from it other than a metaphorical public castration.

40 years ago it was usually covered up. Only the avalanche of allegations coming forth due to the Savile thing has made it acceptable to come forth now, so now we get half a century of repressed stories surfacing all at once.


Since when do separate accounts of separate events become relevant in a criminal proceeding (especially when those possible experiences happened over 40 years ago)?  It's all he said, she said.  His strategy will be deny, deny, and deny.  Which will force them to prove he did it.  What ACTUAL proof they can offer at this time may be little to none.
 
2014-01-14 02:01:48 PM  
"Coronation Street star William Roache indecently assaulted a 14-year-old girl in the men's toilet"

Must have been a huge toilet.
 
2014-01-14 02:19:48 PM  
Don't be white, don't be white, don't be white don't be white....


fark!  Goddamnit white people, can't you get your shiat together?
 
2014-01-14 02:31:51 PM  

poot42: Being a star (one of longest) on Coronation Street does NOT make him a "TV presenter", there Subby.
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THIS.  Make that -2 for the other thread where subby calls a radio DJ a "TV presenter".  I understand the clever theme of the triple submission, but with a little more thought "BBC employee" could have been substituted for "TV presenter", thereby preserving the form while making the function a little more accurate.
 
2014-01-14 03:02:33 PM  

jdemartino: poot42: Being a star (one of longest) on Coronation Street does NOT make him a "TV presenter", there Subby.
-1

THIS.  Make that -2 for the other thread where subby calls a radio DJ a "TV presenter".  I understand the clever theme of the triple submission, but with a little more thought "BBC employee" could have been substituted for "TV presenter", thereby preserving the form while making the function a little more accurate.


Subby here. Yeah, I admit I f*cked up the William Roache one. In hindsight 'personality' or 'star' would have been more accurate than 'presenter'. I stand by the DJ one though, as while the article focuses on his radio work in the headline, he was a TV presenter as well.

BTW, 'BBC employee' would be equally wrong, as William Roache worked for ITV :)
 
2014-01-14 03:14:10 PM  

jdemartino: THIS. Make that -2 for the other thread where subby calls a radio DJ a "TV presenter". I understand the clever theme of the triple submission, but with a little more thought "BBC employee" could have been substituted for "TV presenter", thereby preserving the form while making the function a little more accurate.


Except William Roache isn't a BBC employee.  Coronation Street is shown on a rival network (ITV).  Neither is Rolf Harris a BBC employee as far as I know (nor is he British for that matter).
 
2014-01-14 03:17:53 PM  

ThunderChild: jdemartino: poot42: Being a star (one of longest) on Coronation Street does NOT make him a "TV presenter", there Subby.
-1

THIS.  Make that -2 for the other thread where subby calls a radio DJ a "TV presenter".  I understand the clever theme of the triple submission, but with a little more thought "BBC employee" could have been substituted for "TV presenter", thereby preserving the form while making the function a little more accurate.

Subby here. Yeah, I admit I f*cked up the William Roache one. In hindsight 'personality' or 'star' would have been more accurate than 'presenter'. I stand by the DJ one though, as while the article focuses on his radio work in the headline, he was a TV presenter as well.

BTW, 'BBC employee' would be equally wrong, as William Roache worked for ITV :)


Is this a new meme? I can't count how many times I've seen "that's not the BBC, it's ITV" line in recent threads...more than 3. Mostly people complaining about Sherlock and Downton airing late in the US.

/it's not a very good meme.
 
2014-01-14 03:19:20 PM  
DLT was at least a TV presenter sometimes, as he presented Top of the Pops. But he was far better known as a radio DJ.
 
2014-01-14 03:39:18 PM  
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2014-01-14 03:41:23 PM  
He gave her half a crown for her trouble? How quaint.

When I was at school, we used to sing the song
"If I give you half a crown,
 Will you take your knickers down?"

Never realized that it was the going rate.
 
2014-01-14 04:17:05 PM  

Crudbucket: ThunderChild: jdemartino: poot42: Being a star (one of longest) on Coronation Street does NOT make him a "TV presenter", there Subby.
-1

THIS.  Make that -2 for the other thread where subby calls a radio DJ a "TV presenter".  I understand the clever theme of the triple submission, but with a little more thought "BBC employee" could have been substituted for "TV presenter", thereby preserving the form while making the function a little more accurate.

Subby here. Yeah, I admit I f*cked up the William Roache one. In hindsight 'personality' or 'star' would have been more accurate than 'presenter'. I stand by the DJ one though, as while the article focuses on his radio work in the headline, he was a TV presenter as well.

BTW, 'BBC employee' would be equally wrong, as William Roache worked for ITV :)

Is this a new meme? I can't count how many times I've seen "that's not the BBC, it's ITV" line in recent threads...more than 3. Mostly people complaining about Sherlock and Downton airing late in the US.

/it's not a very good meme.


Accuracy is a meme?  Not every British show is on the BBC.

/though Sherlock is BBC, while Downton is ITV.
 
2014-01-14 04:51:37 PM  

drxym: He's not a TV presenter, he's a soap actor. About a year before all this came out there were newspaper stories that he was extremely promiscuous and would stick it into anything that moved.


Yeah even Jack Harkness looks for proof of legal age.
 
2014-01-14 05:00:55 PM  

fluffy2097: Don't be white, don't be white, don't be white don't be white....


fark!  Goddamnit white people, can't you get your shiat together?


LOL
 
2014-01-14 05:21:16 PM  
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2014-01-14 05:32:18 PM  

nyrB: jdemartino: THIS. Make that -2 for the other thread where subby calls a radio DJ a "TV presenter". I understand the clever theme of the triple submission, but with a little more thought "BBC employee" could have been substituted for "TV presenter", thereby preserving the form while making the function a little more accurate.

Except William Roache isn't a BBC employee.  Coronation Street is shown on a rival network (ITV).  Neither is Rolf Harris a BBC employee as far as I know (nor is he British for that matter).


My fault.  I didn't RTF or at least not all of it, so missed which show the non-presenter acted on.  Foolishly assumed subby got at least the "BBC" part right in his otherwise amusing trifecta.  Now I'm just waiting to hear that one of these guys worked for Australian television or the CBC.  ;-D
 
2014-01-14 05:52:13 PM  

nyrB: Except William Roache isn't a BBC employee. Coronation Street is shown on a rival network (ITV). Neither is Rolf Harris a BBC employee as far as I know (nor is he British for that matter).


Rolf Harris is one of those people who'd present TV programs for BBC and for ITV. Whether that makes him an "employee" I don't know but clearly the BBC paid him a lot of money over the years.
 
2014-01-14 06:05:19 PM  

drxym: Rolf Harris is one of those people who'd present TV programs for BBC and for ITV. Whether that makes him an "employee" I don't know but clearly the BBC paid him a lot of money over the years.


Fair enuf, but I ain't acceptin' he's British!
 
2014-01-14 11:11:50 PM  
"She described how she felt "frozen and petrified" as he made her commit a sex act on him. "

That guy would love my ex-wife. Also, "frozen and petrified" doesn't sound like she was acting on him. Something doesn't add up here.
 
2014-01-15 02:32:09 AM  

ramblinwreck: I get the recent allegation, but how exactly do you prove something like an alleged assault from nearly 40 years ago?  The burden of proof being on the accuser, I'm not so sure anything will come from it other than a metaphorical public castration.


Nevermind proving it, I'm shocked they don't have a statute of limitations on it. A friend (for real, this isn't deflecting) claims to remember her father molesting her adopted sisters when they were children, but it's like a decade past the statute so nothing can be done even if they wanted to speak up. Her dad's a piece of shiat, so it's frustrating.
 
2014-01-15 02:33:01 AM  
I should have said 'don't seem to' since it wasn't clear in the article.
 
2014-01-15 02:55:48 AM  

ladyfortuna: ramblinwreck: I get the recent allegation, but how exactly do you prove something like an alleged assault from nearly 40 years ago?  The burden of proof being on the accuser, I'm not so sure anything will come from it other than a metaphorical public castration.

Nevermind proving it, I'm shocked they don't have a statute of limitations on it. A friend (for real, this isn't deflecting) claims to remember her father molesting her adopted sisters when they were children, but it's like a decade past the statute so nothing can be done even if they wanted to speak up. Her dad's a piece of shiat, so it's frustrating.


My cousin says the same thing. The only problem is, she also claims my mother and my other cousins were also molested (they were roughly the same age). The only problem is that neither the others who were supposedly involved nor the adults (obviously not including the one accused) who were there remember any of the things she claims happened.
 
2014-01-16 01:02:13 AM  
untaken_name:
My cousin says the same thing. The only problem is, she also claims my mother and my other cousins were also molested (they were roughly the same age). The only problem is that neither the others who were supposedly involved nor the adults (obviously not including the one accused) who were there remember any of the things she claims happened.

Her sisters are like that too. One of them went on to have a kid by way of an abusive addict/felon, the other one seems to be in denial about a whole lot of other family things too. Friend's POS dad ended up with custody of said love-child for several years, and the incidents between him (the kid) and other family members got worse and worse until he ended up in a half-way house because of mental issues. The dad gave my friend shiat for not allowing him to pick her up and 'care fore her' after gallbladder surgery; she specifically didn't tell him when it was because his previous 'after surgery' care almost killed her due to medication interactions. I listened to the ranting voicemail he left. He's scum and I don't doubt her claims. After hearing this stuff for years and telling her how farked up it was, she finally cut most of her ties with the family and is a lot happier for it.

I can only hope your cousin is either creating false memories or at worst making things up on purpose; I don't wish that kind of shiat on anyone.
 
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