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2014-01-14 11:00:31 AM
But wants to kiss him
 
2014-01-14 11:01:50 AM
i1045.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-14 11:04:27 AM
Same thing back in the old days with Frank Gifford.  He was the golden boy in the league, with his photo everywhere....tons of magazine covers.  A lotta defensive players wanted to kill him.

See Bednarik, Chuck.
 
2014-01-14 11:06:13 AM
Because he's living every man's fantasy?


i47.tinypic.com
 
2014-01-14 11:10:05 AM
People hate him, at least in part, because he is not the stereotypical aggressive "tough guy" football player, though it certainly seems he's as tough and competitive as anyone else. The incongruity gives people fits. Not to mention he's playing in the same era as Peyton Manning, who at least maintains a somewhat hokey everyman doofus-y persona.
 
2014-01-14 11:10:31 AM
Look at those sideburns! He looks like a girl. Now Johnny Unitas, there's a haircut to set your watch by.
 
2014-01-14 11:16:09 AM
Because he's a good looking millionaire married to a supermodel who happens to win a lot of football games, and you're a fat complainer living in a rathole who has never banged anything hot and has only ever won the my little pony jpeg posting contest?
 
2014-01-14 11:17:10 AM

No Soap Radio: People hate him, at least in part, because he is not the stereotypical aggressive "tough guy" football player, though it certainly seems he's as tough and competitive as anyone else. The incongruity gives people fits. Not to mention he's playing in the same era as Peyton Manning, who at least maintains a somewhat hokey everyman doofus-y persona.


No question about that.  I saw a documentary about TB while he was at Michigan.  He apparently started off as a freshman in the 5th string or some shiat, and was getting the crap beaten out of him in practice on a regular basis.  Lloyd Carr said he just kept getting back up and not letting it affect his throws or decision-making.  He ultimately played his way into the starting role, but he definitely earned it there.

aintnuttintofarkwith: Because he's living every man's fantasy?


That's also definitely a part of it.  I think a lot of people instinctively believe that TB's success has been more or less handed to him, and that he hasn't earned it.  Granted, being good looking is something that nobody earns, but there's no question he earned his success on the field, especially if you read about his college career.
 
2014-01-14 11:18:29 AM

you are a puppet: Because he's a good looking millionaire married to a supermodel who happens to win a lot of football games, and you're a fat complainer living in a rathole who has never banged anything hot and has only ever won the my little pony jpeg posting contest?


I never won a jpeg contest.
 
2014-01-14 11:19:05 AM

No Soap Radio: People hate him, at least in part, because he is not the stereotypical aggressive "tough guy" football player, though it certainly seems he's as tough and competitive as anyone else. The incongruity gives people fits. Not to mention he's playing in the same era as Peyton Manning, who at least maintains a somewhat hokey everyman doofus-y persona.


Last night, my roommate and I were discussing Philip Rivers. I FARKING HATE PHILIP RIVERS WITH A WHITE-HOT PASSION, but with Brady it's just sort of "Eh. Haters gonna hate."

Because Brady is hyper-competitive, but it shows mostly when he talks to teammates. Rivers is also hyper-competitive, but it shows in his jawing at the opposite sideline. I don't recall much of Brady shiat-talking the other squad.
 
2014-01-14 11:22:28 AM
So Joe really DOES care if Brady is stuggling.
 
2014-01-14 11:25:46 AM
There's nothing funny about vapor lock.
 
2014-01-14 11:26:45 AM

Orgasmatron138: So Joe really DOES care if Brady is stuggling.


How does one "stuggle"?

Sounds like fun.

sorta
 
2014-01-14 11:28:44 AM
People hated him before spygate and once that broke everyone thought he would fall so far and just fade out yet here he is still winning. That drives patriots haters farking bananas
 
2014-01-14 11:32:17 AM
Anyone else going to miss Broadway Joe when he eventually moves on?   I never got to enjoy him during his playing days, but he's been entertaining for a long time anyway.
 
2014-01-14 11:33:15 AM

Dr Dreidel: No Soap Radio: People hate him, at least in part, because he is not the stereotypical aggressive "tough guy" football player, though it certainly seems he's as tough and competitive as anyone else. The incongruity gives people fits. Not to mention he's playing in the same era as Peyton Manning, who at least maintains a somewhat hokey everyman doofus-y persona.

Last night, my roommate and I were discussing Philip Rivers. I FARKING HATE PHILIP RIVERS WITH A WHITE-HOT PASSION, but with Brady it's just sort of "Eh. Haters gonna hate."

Because Brady is hyper-competitive, but it shows mostly when he talks to teammates. Rivers is also hyper-competitive, but it shows in his jawing at the opposite sideline. I don't recall much of Brady shiat-talking the other squad.


He's had his moments when he's been prodded. Both him and Belichick clowned Anthony Smith of the Steelers a few years back when he guaranteed a win against them.  He also went in on Suggs a few years back.

Brady is one of my favorite athletes of all time. His competitiveness and the way he strives to get better is at a Michael Jordan/Kobe Bryant type level.
 
2014-01-14 11:34:36 AM

Dr Dreidel: No Soap Radio: People hate him, at least in part, because he is not the stereotypical aggressive "tough guy" football player, though it certainly seems he's as tough and competitive as anyone else. The incongruity gives people fits. Not to mention he's playing in the same era as Peyton Manning, who at least maintains a somewhat hokey everyman doofus-y persona.

Last night, my roommate and I were discussing Philip Rivers. I FARKING HATE PHILIP RIVERS WITH A WHITE-HOT PASSION, but with Brady it's just sort of "Eh. Haters gonna hate."

Because Brady is hyper-competitive, but it shows mostly when he talks to teammates. Rivers is also hyper-competitive, but it shows in his jawing at the opposite sideline. I don't recall much of Brady shiat-talking the other squad.


Only time I can remember it happening really overtly was against the Steelers in 2007. Here was SI's writeup at the time:

"After throwing his first touchdown pass of the game on Sunday, Patriots quarterback Tom Brady weaved through the Steelers' defense, sifting through the jersey numbers until he found the one he was looking for. When he spotted number 27 -- Pittsburgh free safety Anthony Smith, who last week guaranteed a victory over New England -- Brady lit into him, barking at Smith until several players stepped in to break up the fracas. "I don't care to repeat what I said, especially if my mother reads it," Brady said later. "She wouldn't be very happy."He guaranteed victory and the Pats ran a play action play specifically designed for him to bite and they burned him for a TD on their way to a 34-13 victory.

Here's the video of that incident (don't mind the odd title).
 
2014-01-14 11:34:54 AM
I don't hate Brady but I detest the drooling media that love him.
 
2014-01-14 11:40:11 AM

JudgeSmails: I don't hate Brady but I detest the drooling media that love him.


He's not the only athlete they do that for

Lebron
Tiger
Payton
RG3
 
2014-01-14 11:40:54 AM

natural316: JudgeSmails: I don't hate Brady but I detest the drooling media that love him.

He's not the only athlete they do that for

Lebron
Tiger
Payton
RG3


Oops, I meant Peyton. Walter doesn't get that treatment
 
2014-01-14 11:43:21 AM
I don't have anything against "Tom Brady," I have everything against "Wildly Successful Quarterback of a Team Against Which I Root." If he'd been the playboy quarterback of the Giants or Ravens, I'd be over the moon with him.

/But then, I wouldn't get to watch Eli Manning or Joe Flacco.
 
2014-01-14 11:44:10 AM
I hate you, I hate you! I hate you Namath!
 
2014-01-14 11:45:36 AM

aintnuttintofarkwith: Because he's living every man's fantasy?


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This. I posit that after his disappointing sixth-round selection and playing behind Bledsoe he went into a private room made a deal with Satan (I picture a long-fingernailed Willem Dafoe after the recent commercials) to crank up his career. Which of course included Bledsoe's injury, the improbable Super Bowl win over the Rams, a series of hot actresses/models, endorsements and continued success. The movie montage sequence pretty much writes itself.

And it's pretty evident he pissed off Satan on week 1 of 2008. Maybe Tom got a little too full of himself(?).
 
2014-01-14 11:46:48 AM
Can't see any reason to hate Tom Brady, he seems like a nice enough fellow.
But I sure would like to see the Broncos beat the Patriots this weekend.
 
2014-01-14 11:47:20 AM

natural316: natural316: JudgeSmails: I don't hate Brady but I detest the drooling media that love him.

He's not the only athlete they do that for

Lebron
Tiger
Payton
RG3

Oops, I meant Peyton. Walter doesn't get that treatment


Chicago media gave him that treatment for sure. Wasn't it taboo locally to mention any of the less than admirable things he did off the field?
 
2014-01-14 11:53:40 AM

robertus: I don't have anything against "Tom Brady," I have everything against "Wildly Successful Quarterback of a Team Against Which I Root." If he'd been the playboy quarterback of the Giants or Ravens, I'd be over the moon with him.



THIS.

I despise Brady because he's a Patriot.  That's bred into me from a)being born in Chicago in the 70s and having vivid memories of Superbowl XX, and b)living in Cambridge, MA long enough to observe Pats fans in the wild.  fark the Patriots.

It's always bothered me that the media likes to run with the narrative of "People hate Tom Brady because he married a supermodel."  Why? Is the guy happy? Is she happy? Who the hell cares?  Why do we care about this? What the hell does that have to do with football?

If reporters ask her opinion of a game, that's on them.  Don't like her answer? You asked.

Now Philip Rivers.

That's a qb you can despise regardless of team.
 
2014-01-14 11:54:48 AM
Saw an ad on the side of a NYC bus stop last weekend -- apparently Brady is the new spokesperson for Uggs boots.  Not sure how well that works.  Jets fans hate him, and Giants fans probably just remember him as the guy that Justin Tuck was picking out of his teeth after those Super Bowls they won.


natural316: JudgeSmails: I don't hate Brady but I detest the drooling media that love him.

He's not the only athlete they do that for

Lebron
Tiger
Payton
RG3


Tebow.
 
2014-01-14 11:54:53 AM

Dr Dreidel: Because Brady is hyper-competitive, but it shows mostly when he talks to teammates. Rivers is also hyper-competitive, but it shows in his jawing at the opposite sideline. I don't recall much of Brady shiat-talking the other squad.


He does it all the time.

/it's just that producers determine the narrative for QBs - every time Rivers is jawing at an opposing team, they're finding him and putting him on the screen AND commenting on it. Not so for Brady. Neither of them do it anywhere but on the field, though.
 
2014-01-14 11:57:32 AM

you are a puppet: natural316: natural316: JudgeSmails: I don't hate Brady but I detest the drooling media that love him.

He's not the only athlete they do that for

Lebron
Tiger
Payton
RG3

Oops, I meant Peyton. Walter doesn't get that treatment

Chicago media gave him that treatment for sure. Wasn't it taboo locally to mention any of the less than admirable things he did off the field?


Still kinda is. The biography that came out a couple years ago got a ton of hate in the media for that rsason. People are flawed. IMO that doesn't change the fact that he's one of the best ever.
 
2014-01-14 12:00:27 PM

JudgeSmails: I don't hate Brady but I detest the drooling media that love him.


This gets me more than anything else.

Something I find amusing is the creepy man-crush Bostonians have on him while the first thing he does when the season is over is to flee to NYC.
 
2014-01-14 12:02:32 PM

Arkanaut: Saw an ad on the side of a NYC bus stop last weekend -- apparently Brady is the new spokesperson for Uggs boots.



He's been wearing women's shoes for a while now.
 
2014-01-14 12:11:07 PM
I didn't hate him until I saw that ESPN doc about him, where in an interview he cries about being drafted in the 7th round.

One of the best ever. Three superb owls.  Married to a supermodel.  Millionaire.

Cries about being drafted in the 7th round like it was the worst thing that ever happened to him.


That's why I hate tom brady.
 
2014-01-14 12:12:30 PM
Idont hate Brady per se - dude BALLS - but I do love seeing him cry. I love how whenever he gets hit he starts bawling to to the stripes. And every QB in the league yells at his O line in the clutch, when the game is on the line. Only Brady gets the benefit of lingering camera shots showing his unparalleled leadership, fire, and cutthroat will to win. Yeah. Because no other qb does that every single game.
 
2014-01-14 12:15:03 PM

Transpogue: I despise Brady because he's a Patriot. That's bred into me from a)being born in Chicago in the 70s and having vivid memories of Superbowl XX, and b)living in Cambridge, MA long enough to observe Pats fans in the wild. fark the Patriots.


I can understand your B reason (although its the same for every fan group if you live near young college aged fans of any team), but how can you hate the Pats from SB XX?  One of the most lopsided Superb Owls ever, and they even released a smack talking song the same year they demolished their way through the league.  I guess you could hate them for not letting Payton score a TD, but you should blame Ditka more for that

/Pats fan
 
2014-01-14 12:15:37 PM

CatfoodSpork: I didn't hate him until I saw that ESPN doc about him, where in an interview he cries about being drafted in the 7th round.

One of the best ever. Three superb owls.  Married to a supermodel.  Millionaire.

Cries about being drafted in the 7th round like it was the worst thing that ever happened to him.


That's why I hate tom brady.


his struggle is real!!!
 
2014-01-14 12:16:54 PM
I don't think Joe quite gets it.  Manning and Brady are the two greatest quarterbacks of their generation, and probably all time, and they couldn't be more unlike each other.  When you watch Manning play, it's technical, orchestrated, complex, and hard.  Brady makes it look easy.  And that drives a lot of people crazy.  You look at the way most QBs struggle, the way everything in your own life is hard, and then here's this pretty boy who makes the most important position in football look easy.  Manning doesn't get anywhere near that level of hate.  Despite being a legacy, he looks like the hardest working, most devoted guy who ever took a snap.
 
2014-01-14 12:18:00 PM
He's like, the Nephew.
 
2014-01-14 12:20:38 PM

Pentaxian: Something I find amusing is the creepy man-crush Bostonians have on him


Boston's man-crush is on Darth Hoodie, thankyouverymuch.
 
2014-01-14 12:24:48 PM

Slam Bradley: Transpogue: I despise Brady because he's a Patriot. That's bred into me from a)being born in Chicago in the 70s and having vivid memories of Superbowl XX, and b)living in Cambridge, MA long enough to observe Pats fans in the wild. fark the Patriots.

I can understand your B reason (although its the same for every fan group if you live near young college aged fans of any team), but how can you hate the Pats from SB XX?  One of the most lopsided Superb Owls ever, and they even released a smack talking song the same year they demolished their way through the league.  I guess you could hate them for not letting Payton score a TD, but you should blame Ditka more for that

/Pats fan


The *charm* of a Bears fan is that we will talk about that game like it happened last year.  We all know- we really do- that it happened almost thirty years ago and also know the many, many flaws of Ditka, but they were exacerbated by how Buddy ran the defense.  But that's a whole other story...

My encounters with Pats fans were beyond the college kids-- it was also the grown adults- both white and blue collar.  But again, it's through the eyes of Bears fan, and we're just brought up to despise the Patriots.  We also don't get how an entire segment of the country gets a team.  That's like having the Midwest Bears.  Doesn't compute.

But I'm rambling now, because my coffee hasn't kicked in yet...

At the end of the day, I love the game, and enjoy despising other teams for no real football reason, because FOOTBALL.

/Packers SUCK
//but we respect the Packers, because history
///but they SUCK
 
2014-01-14 12:30:26 PM
Well, yeah; Bobby was such an ass in that episode, with his wild claims and crap, and... oh, wait. Tom Brady?
 
2014-01-14 12:34:17 PM

NewWorldDan: I don't think Joe quite gets it.  Manning and Brady are the two greatest quarterbacks of their generation, and probably all time, and they couldn't be more unlike each other.  When you watch Manning play, it's technical, orchestrated, complex, and hard.  Brady makes it look easy.  And that drives a lot of people crazy.  You look at the way most QBs struggle, the way everything in your own life is hard, and then here's this pretty boy who makes the most important position in football look easy.  Manning doesn't get anywhere near that level of hate.  Despite being a legacy, he looks like the hardest working, most devoted guy who ever took a snap.


I think you're on to something here. People love Peyton because they relate to his everyman work ethic thing. Which could all be an act btw, he certainly has as much knowledge and skill of anyone who ever played the game. Brady though looks on the field like he does in life-a good looking gifted dude who just coasts. Since a lot of hero worship in sports is relating yourself to the person you idolize, there just aren't that many people who can relate to Brady. Lots of guys can relate to Peyton and his mush mouth, and lots of guys can WISH they could live Brady's life. But very few people have any first-hand knowledge of what it must be like to be so talented, good looking and rich.
 
2014-01-14 12:36:26 PM
I'm sure she understands too.

www.celebritiesfans.com
 
2014-01-14 12:39:14 PM

No Soap Radio: People hate him, at least in part, because he is not the stereotypical aggressive "tough guy" football player, though it certainly seems he's as tough and competitive as anyone else. The incongruity gives people fits. Not to mention he's playing in the same era as Peyton Manning, who at least maintains a somewhat hokey everyman doofus-y persona image.


fixed, dude's very aggressive, very wealthy, and holds lots of grudges - he'd make a great businessman if he wasn't playing football

the everyman thing is image really

one reason i don't like judging players based on their public image is because public images are often either crafted by the players or by agents or by the media
 
2014-01-14 12:43:48 PM

coolio mack: Dr Dreidel: No Soap Radio: People hate him, at least in part, because he is not the stereotypical aggressive "tough guy" football player, though it certainly seems he's as tough and competitive as anyone else. The incongruity gives people fits. Not to mention he's playing in the same era as Peyton Manning, who at least maintains a somewhat hokey everyman doofus-y persona.

Last night, my roommate and I were discussing Philip Rivers. I FARKING HATE PHILIP RIVERS WITH A WHITE-HOT PASSION, but with Brady it's just sort of "Eh. Haters gonna hate."

Because Brady is hyper-competitive, but it shows mostly when he talks to teammates. Rivers is also hyper-competitive, but it shows in his jawing at the opposite sideline. I don't recall much of Brady shiat-talking the other squad.

He's had his moments when he's been prodded. Both him and Belichick clowned Anthony Smith of the Steelers a few years back when he guaranteed a win against them.  He also went in on Suggs a few years back.

Brady is one of my favorite athletes of all time. His competitiveness and the way he strives to get better is at a Michael Jordan/Kobe Bryant type level.


With Jordan and Bryant, you sense an unholy, nearly unhealthy level of competitiveness, as if there's very little else in their lives to make them human.  Certainly is true for Jordan, who is by all accounts a total prick in real life, and probably for Bryant, who at least is not a gambling addict and asshole.  With Brady, you have a feeling this guy actually enjoys life outside the stadium.
 
2014-01-14 12:44:00 PM

obeymatt: I'm sure she understands too.


I think you got lost on your way to people.com.
 
2014-01-14 12:44:43 PM

Girl Sailor: NewWorldDan: I don't think Joe quite gets it.  Manning and Brady are the two greatest quarterbacks of their generation, and probably all time, and they couldn't be more unlike each other.  When you watch Manning play, it's technical, orchestrated, complex, and hard.  Brady makes it look easy.  And that drives a lot of people crazy.  You look at the way most QBs struggle, the way everything in your own life is hard, and then here's this pretty boy who makes the most important position in football look easy.  Manning doesn't get anywhere near that level of hate.  Despite being a legacy, he looks like the hardest working, most devoted guy who ever took a snap.

I think you're on to something here. People love Peyton because they relate to his everyman work ethic thing. Which could all be an act btw, he certainly has as much knowledge and skill of anyone who ever played the game. Brady though looks on the field like he does in life-a good looking gifted dude who just coasts. Since a lot of hero worship in sports is relating yourself to the person you idolize, there just aren't that many people who can relate to Brady. Lots of guys can relate to Peyton and his mush mouth, and lots of guys can WISH they could live Brady's life. But very few people have any first-hand knowledge of what it must be like to be so talented, good looking and rich.


Which one was the consensus #1 pick in the NFL two years before being drafted and which one was the overlooked 6th rounder who could hardly get the starting job in college?  If true, it makes a great narrative.
 
2014-01-14 12:45:16 PM

Transpogue: The *charm* of a Bears fan is that we will talk about that game like it happened last year.  We all know- we really do- that it happened almost thirty years ago and also know the many, many flaws of Ditka, but they were exacerbated by how Buddy ran the defense.  But that's a whole other story...


You do remember that the Bears won that game, right? And the defense that year was one of the best ever?
 
2014-01-14 12:45:45 PM
Ed Reed might know also.

cbssports.com
 
2014-01-14 12:48:03 PM

Rhypskallion: Anyone else going to miss Broadway Joe when he eventually moves on?   I never got to enjoy him during his playing days, but he's been entertaining for a long time anyway.


i will.  and, i remember watching him.  for someone who ended  with a less than   .500 record and  waaaay more pics than td's he sure got a lotta mileage out of super bowl III.

but, i cannot deny his greatness.....he was amazing to watch.  'til his knees gave out.
 
2014-01-14 12:50:21 PM
Superb Owls?
 
2014-01-14 12:50:58 PM

ElwoodCuse: Look at those sideburns! He looks like a girl. Now Johnny Unitas, there's a haircut to set your watch by.


i195.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-14 12:53:13 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: obeymatt: I'm sure she understands too.

I think you got lost on your way to people.com.


That's Bridget Moynahan.
Tom Brady had a kid with her before he started dating Gisele.
ZaK was insinuating that Ms. Moynahan does not like Mr. Brady, but there relationship has been friendly or at least cordial since they split up.
 
2014-01-14 12:54:25 PM
Gah,,,,
Should have said:
"obeymatt was insinuating...."
 
2014-01-14 12:55:15 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: obeymatt: I'm sure she understands too.

I think you got lost on your way to people.com.


Naw, I just think one of the reasons people don't like this guy is because he left his pregnant girlfriend. Kind of a dick move, and I'm sure a lot of people agree.
 
2014-01-14 12:57:01 PM
He's like the Castro of the NFL.
Hate him, but do respect his leadership.
 
2014-01-14 12:57:15 PM
Unless Namath got coddled by the league and was allowed to play under a different set of rules than 90% of QBs, I don't think he understands the hatred for Brady.

Carson Palmer's knee is shredded. Unfortunate, but that happens sometimes in football.

Brady's knee is shredded. We must change the rules so this never happens again!

Roethlisberger's nose gets broken by a forearm shiver. Great play by Ngata.

Brady's helmet gets the slightest graze. Personal foul, roughing the passer, 15 yard penalty, automatic first down.
 
2014-01-14 12:58:39 PM

The Googles Do Nothing: Superb Owls?


The NFL is a teensy weensy bit overzealous over their trademark for the game that represents the final game of the playoffs.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-02-01/business/ct-biz-0201-b ig -game-20120201_1_nfl-shield-official-pizza-sponsor-nfl-sponsors

Using the phrase you quoted is a silly workaround to the issue.
 
2014-01-14 12:59:58 PM
In laughable hire news: Loins select Jim Caldwell to gaze at the field with a headset on
 
2014-01-14 01:04:46 PM

SigmaAlgebra: Unless Namath got coddled by the league and was allowed to play under a different set of rules than 90% of QBs, I don't think he understands the hatred for Brady.

Carson Palmer's knee is shredded. Unfortunate, but that happens sometimes in football.

Brady's knee is shredded. We must change the rules so this never happens again!

Roethlisberger's nose gets broken by a forearm shiver. Great play by Ngata.

Brady's helmet gets the slightest graze. Personal foul, roughing the passer, 15 yard penalty, automatic first down.


yeah, i don't get the "roughing the passer" rules... when we had Air McNair, the dude would get destroyed no flags - and just play through the pain... years later when Hasselbald was playing a hand would graze his helmet and 15 yard penalty... i guess the league is just protecting fragile quarterbacks or something
 
2014-01-14 01:04:51 PM
If you don't strongly defend a trademark from infringement you risk losing it.

Big Game is the generic. Superb Owl is mostly "Look at how edgy I am, I hate a hugely popular spectacle"
 
2014-01-14 01:05:21 PM
*edit: except Kevin Kolb, he must've done something to piss off goodell
 
2014-01-14 01:10:29 PM

AdamK: *edit: except Kevin Kolb, he must've done something to piss off goodell


He got his bell rung hard enough that Vick took over for him. Not good for the image of the league to have the felon back on the field.
 
2014-01-14 01:10:48 PM

AdamK: *edit: except Kevin Kolb, he must've done something to piss off goodell


And bath mats.
 
2014-01-14 01:11:40 PM
There's a disconnect between his handsome appearance and off-field "accomplishments" with his fiery on-field competitiveness. He doesn't play the part of "pretty boy" but doesn't look like some grizzled tough-ass, either.
 
2014-01-14 01:16:30 PM

Orgasmatron138: Still kinda is. The biography that came out a couple years ago got a ton of hate in the media for that rsason. People are flawed. IMO that doesn't change the fact that he's one of the best ever.


Are you referring to his episode of A Football Life? That show does address more than just the football.  They've made it clear that they're not afraid to point out a player's flaws, both on and off the field.  But they did it in a way so as not to tarnish his greatness.  His actions were what they were.

The Derek Thomas episode is a good example.  They certainly didn't gloss over the fact that he had many children by many different women, none of whom he married.  But on the other hand DT gave a great deal back to those less fortunate than him...he gave of himself both personally and financially, and that's a lot more than many can say.
 
2014-01-14 01:20:36 PM
I used to work at a radio station in Honolulu. Was on sidelines and in locker room for interviews at the Pro Bowl every year. Tom Brady is an arrogant prick. Rude and dismissive. Other star QBs, notably Peyton Manning, were quite the opposite, very nice and gracious.
In fact, the only other negative experience I had with any player was Warren Sapp

I have always hated Brady,not because of success, but because he is, in fact, an asshole.
 
2014-01-14 01:21:32 PM

SigmaAlgebra: Unless Namath got coddled by the league and was allowed to play under a different set of rules than 90% of QBs, I don't think he understands the hatred for Brady.

Carson Palmer's knee is shredded. Unfortunate, but that happens sometimes in football.

Brady's knee is shredded. We must change the rules so this never happens again!

Roethlisberger's nose gets broken by a forearm shiver. Great play by Ngata.

Brady's helmet gets the slightest graze. Personal foul, roughing the passer, 15 yard penalty, automatic first down.


You're wrong.  Brady was the beneficiary of 2 roughing the passer calls this year - tied with 5 teams for 16th in the NFL - including Pittsburgh.  The year before he was tied with 8 other teams at 2, making them 15th; Pittsburgh was ahead with 3.
And you'd have to be crazy to think that the "Brady Rule" wasn't the result of an accumulation of injuries.
 
2014-01-14 01:21:41 PM

robertus: I don't have anything against "Tom Brady," I have everything against "Wildly Successful Quarterback of a Team Against Which I Root." If he'd been the playboy quarterback of the Giants or Ravens, I'd be over the moon with him.  /But then, I wouldn't get to watch Eli Manning or Joe Flacco.


As a Bostonian who doesn't root for the Patriots (Ravens fan) I know very well how you feel.

CatfoodSpork: Cries about being drafted in the 7th round like it was the worst thing that ever happened to him. That's why I hate tom brady.


I think people forget that strong emotions occupy both ends of the spectrum. The guy is passionate about winning and working his ass off to be the best and it shows. It also shows when he talks about coming that close to not having the chance. He wasn't just playing college football. He was dreaming much bigger. He was never going to see the fruits of his labor if he didn't get a shot in the NFL.  And with that draft he came very close to never realizing those dreams. There are times in my life that I look back on and understand now just how important they were in getting me to where I am right now and some of them get me pretty emotional. Not that I weep openly about them or anything, but jeez... if I was 21 and my life path was splitting with one direction being the NFL, and the other being normal everyday existence, I'd be pretty emotional when reflecting on how close it came to not happening.
 
2014-01-14 01:22:07 PM
 
2014-01-14 01:27:48 PM

The Googles Do Nothing: Superb Owls?


Another 4chan meme that made its way to Fark.
 
2014-01-14 01:32:03 PM

Wadded Beef: aintnuttintofarkwith: Because he's living every man's fantasy?


[i47.tinypic.com image 555x385]

This. I posit that after his disappointing sixth-round selection and playing behind Bledsoe he went into a private room made a deal with Satan (I picture a long-fingernailed Willem Dafoe after the recent commercials) to crank up his career. Which of course included Bledsoe's injury, the improbable Super Bowl win over the Rams, a series of hot actresses/models, endorsements and continued success. The movie montage sequence pretty much writes itself.

And it's pretty evident he pissed off Satan on week 1 of 2008. Maybe Tom got a little too full of himself(?).


Actually, you could trace that back to February of 2008 as the exact point he might've pissed Satan off. XD  Week 1 was just interest accrued.
 
2014-01-14 01:35:00 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: Transpogue: The *charm* of a Bears fan is that we will talk about that game like it happened last year.  We all know- we really do- that it happened almost thirty years ago and also know the many, many flaws of Ditka, but they were exacerbated by how Buddy ran the defense.  But that's a whole other story...

You do remember that the Bears won that game, right? And the defense that year was one of the best ever?


You have the facts correct.  We killed the Pats.  We had a 15-1 record.  Buddy built an incredible, nearly flawless defense.

However, Ditka and Buddy couldn't work together.  You're not going to have a legacy team- year after year- if you build a team based on animosity.  That's why we never won another championship, IMO.  Too much ish behind the scenes, too much distracting drama.
 
2014-01-14 01:36:26 PM

JudgeSmails: I don't hate Brady but I detest the drooling media that love him.


I can behind this.  Regardless of the announcing crew, the majority of their time is spent gushing about Brady.  Even if what they're saying is true, spending 50% of your telecast suckling him just seems...lazy.
 
2014-01-14 01:38:03 PM

CatfoodSpork: I didn't hate him until I saw that ESPN doc about him, where in an interview he cries about being drafted in the 7th round.

One of the best ever. Three superb owls.  Married to a supermodel.  Millionaire.

Cries about being drafted in the 7th round like it was the worst thing that ever happened to him.


That's why I hate tom brady.


As much as I don't like Tom Brady, Cleveland and San Fran wished they'd have picked him back in the day.
 
2014-01-14 01:39:56 PM
i.cdn.turner.com
 
2014-01-14 01:44:45 PM

you are a puppet: Because he's a good looking millionaire married to a supermodel who happens to win a lot of football games,


How many football games has she won?
 
2014-01-14 02:01:02 PM
My main memory of Joe Namath isn't him winning the Superb Owl, it's him looking like a 97 year old man when I saw him play for the Rams in 1977. Sad, very sad.

As for Brady, I don't get the negativity towards him. He's the classic American story: he's worked really hard to be good at what he does, he's reaped the rewards. Is he a dick in post-game interviews? Sure, but so what, considering the amount of mind-numbingly stupid questions people like him after to answer at those things, it's amazing to me they don't pull out taser guns and fire them at the person who asked the dumb question. Are he and Belichick and the rest of them smug assholes sometimes? Sure, but their time will pass and it'll be back to earth for that franchise. Let's see how many 20-something women show up in Bob Kraft's luxury box then.

I also don't get the whole "Waaah! He's won three Superb Owls! He's dated and then married supermodels!!! Waaah!" nonsense. Yeah, pro athletes are sooooo prone to dating women that look like Melissa McCarthy. Oh wait, they like bleached blonde/fake boobs arm candy.

Plus, the whole "Brady is entitled, Peyton is the salt of the earth" meme is such crap. Peyton has been focused on being what he's become since he was a kid, he's the freakin' son of a former NFL quarterback and the brother of a current NFL quarterback, it's not like his parents were nuclear physicists and he came out of nowhere to be an NFL QB. It's actually a little creepy to me that he seems to have been so maniacally focused on football for so long.

Oh, and Peyton's a die-hard Republican and likes the awful Kenney Chesney, so fark him. [shields up]

/Tase me, bro
 
2014-01-14 02:02:45 PM

doubled99: I used to work at a radio station in Honolulu. Was on sidelines and in locker room for interviews at the Pro Bowl every year. Tom Brady is an arrogant prick. Rude and dismissive. Other star QBs, notably Peyton Manning, were quite the opposite, very nice and gracious.
In fact, the only other negative experience I had with any player was Warren Sapp

I have always hated Brady,not because of success, but because he is, in fact, an asshole.


Wait...you were a member of the media?  And HE'S the asshole?  That's precious.
 
2014-01-14 02:11:34 PM
under a mountain:
img.fark.net

I hate you, I hate you! I hate you Namath!
 
2014-01-14 02:16:33 PM

Bane of Broone: The Googles Do Nothing: Superb Owls?

Another 4chan meme that made its way to Fark.


It's not a 4chan meme.  It originated because the NFL were being dicks and enforcing their trademark of the word "Super Bowl" on small things.  For example if you said "Our Baking Club is having a Super Bowl Party" and advertised it online, the NFL would come in and say "You can't call it any organized event a Super Bowl Party".

So it's more of a "fark you" to the NFL and their draconian copyright enforcement than anything.

i1237.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-14 02:27:23 PM

degenerate-afro: Bane of Broone: The Googles Do Nothing: Superb Owls?

Another 4chan meme that made its way to Fark.

It's not a 4chan meme.  It originated because the NFL were being dicks and enforcing their trademark of the word "Super Bowl" on small things.  For example if you said "Our Baking Club is having a Super Bowl Party" and advertised it online, the NFL would come in and say "You can't call it any organized event a Super Bowl Party".

So it's more of a "fark you" to the NFL and their draconian copyright enforcement than anything.

[i1237.photobucket.com image 561x370]


The 'Superb Owl' Party and Other Nonsense
 
2014-01-14 02:29:57 PM

Walker: But wants to kiss him


God I love Fark sometimes.
 
2014-01-14 02:31:59 PM
As a Pats fan I just want to say, there are people who don't like Tom Brady?

Does Peter King know this?
 
2014-01-14 02:38:24 PM
There are a lot of losers out there who hate anybody successful.
 
2014-01-14 02:39:10 PM

doubled99: I used to work at a radio station in Honolulu. Was on sidelines and in locker room for interviews at the Pro Bowl every year. Tom Brady is an arrogant prick. Rude and dismissive. Other star QBs, notably Peyton Manning, were quite the opposite, very nice and gracious.
In fact, the only other negative experience I had with any player was Warren Sapp

I have always hated Brady,not because of success, but because he is, in fact, an asshole.


This is interesting, as meeting him outside of football this couldn't be further from the truth. He came to a friend's house party, and was an incredibly easy guy to hang out with and have a beer. This was in Denver as well, so even the preponderance of hate from the Broncos fans didn't set him off.
 
2014-01-14 02:42:17 PM
I hate Brady because I'm a Colts fan.  End of story.

If he were the quarterback of the Colts my son would have a Brady jersey.
 
2014-01-14 02:43:06 PM

mcmnky: As a Pats fan I just want to say, there are people who don't like Tom Brady?

Does Peter King know this?


This one always kills me, too.  Peter King is a Red Sox fan and that somehow translated into him being a Patriots fan / Tom Brady suckup.  It's simply not true.  He's a Giants fan, and Brett Favre was always his go-to guy up through 2010.  No, that didn't preclude him from EVER writing about Brady or the Patriots.  A team that's been to 8 AFC Championship games in the past 13 years is going to get some ink.  It's a weird compliment, though, along with the nonsense about getting special roughing the passer calls.
 
2014-01-14 02:48:18 PM
Example #528 why Tom Brady is hated: The Tuck Rule Game.


/Raiders Fan
//Never Forget
 
2014-01-14 02:48:22 PM
Any hatred I have toward Brady can be summed up with 2 words: Boston fans.
 
2014-01-14 02:49:51 PM

CatfoodSpork: I didn't hate him until I saw that ESPN doc about him, where in an interview he cries about being drafted in the 7th round.

One of the best ever. Three superb owls.  Married to a supermodel.  Millionaire.

Cries about being drafted in the 7th round like it was the worst thing that ever happened to him.


That's why I hate tom brady.


I think the context here was that Tom Brady wasn't sure he was going to be selected at all rather than being selected higher, and thus those were tears of belief.

But you know, if you want to hate him because of a misconception, go right ahead. I'm not too wild about him because of the ESPN home team coverage, but he does seem like he really knows how to play, so meh. Let him have his money.
 
2014-01-14 02:53:57 PM

Bane of Broone: The Googles Do Nothing: Superb Owls?

Another 4chan meme that made its way to Fark.


Thanks everybody.  I've learned so much today without having to go to 4chan.
 
2014-01-14 02:55:33 PM

doubled99: I used to work at a radio station in Honolulu. Was on sidelines and in locker room for interviews at the Pro Bowl every year. Tom Brady is an arrogant prick. Rude and dismissive. Other star QBs, notably Peyton Manning, were quite the opposite, very nice and gracious.
In fact, the only other negative experience I had with any player was Warren Sapp

I have always hated Brady,not because of success, but because he is, in fact, an asshole.


You weren't asking him about his birth certificate, were you?
 
2014-01-14 02:57:35 PM

Nana's Vibrator: mcmnky: As a Pats fan I just want to say, there are people who don't like Tom Brady?

Does Peter King know this?

This one always kills me, too.  Peter King is a Red Sox fan and that somehow translated into him being a Patriots fan / Tom Brady suckup.  It's simply not true.  He's a Giants fan, and Brett Favre was always his go-to guy up through 2010.  No, that didn't preclude him from EVER writing about Brady or the Patriots.  A team that's been to 8 AFC Championship games in the past 13 years is going to get some ink.  It's a weird compliment, though, along with the nonsense about getting special roughing the passer calls.


It has nothing to do with which team King roots for, but rather that he had his favorites and his coverage (in volume) is way unbalanced.

I like his work--read MMQB, like his segments on PTI--but even as a Pats fan I've had enough of him slobbering over Tom.

As for Favre, not sure where your "through 2010" idea came from. Even his recent article about his dog dying included Favre.

I'd guess less than a dozen active, current NFL quarterbacks had as many mentions in his MMQB column over the past season as Favre.
 
2014-01-14 03:00:14 PM

flak attack: Any hatred I have toward Brady can be summed up with 2 words: Boston fans.


atlantablackstar.com
 
2014-01-14 03:02:56 PM
It's because he's a whiny prima donna who gets the satin glove treatment from the refs.
 
2014-01-14 03:06:31 PM

obeymatt: Naw, I just think one of the reasons people don't like this guy is because he left his pregnant girlfriend. Kind of a dick move, and I'm sure a lot of people agree.


Not that it's any of our business - let's leave things like that to The View and whatnot - but apparently he has been a supportive father to their child, even though she pulled the goalie.
 
2014-01-14 03:07:38 PM

Transpogue: Zulu_as_Kono: Transpogue: The *charm* of a Bears fan is that we will talk about that game like it happened last year.  We all know- we really do- that it happened almost thirty years ago and also know the many, many flaws of Ditka, but they were exacerbated by how Buddy ran the defense.  But that's a whole other story...

You do remember that the Bears won that game, right? And the defense that year was one of the best ever?

You have the facts correct.  We killed the Pats.  We had a 15-1 record.  Buddy built an incredible, nearly flawless defense.

However, Ditka and Buddy couldn't work together.  You're not going to have a legacy team- year after year- if you build a team based on animosity.  That's why we never won another championship, IMO.  Too much ish behind the scenes, too much distracting drama.


And because of all that you hate the Pats? Ok, I guess.
 
2014-01-14 03:08:57 PM

Mikey1969: It's because he's a whiny prima donna who gets the satin glove treatment from the refs.


As a non-Pats fan from/living in New England, this is pretty much it.  Well that and Pats fans are the worst.
 
2014-01-14 03:13:44 PM

Pants_Optional: Mikey1969: It's because he's a whiny prima donna who gets the satin glove treatment from the refs.

As a non-Pats fan from/living in New England, this is pretty much it.  Well that and Pats fans are the worst.


Luckily, I looked at my post before adding it... I had him down as getting "satin LOVE" treatment.
 
2014-01-14 03:16:14 PM

WhiskeySticks: Example #528 why Tom Brady is hated: The Tuck Rule Game.


/Raiders Fan
//Never Forget


That game was just karmic retribution for Ben Dreith's "roughing the passer" call on Sugar Bear Hamilton in 1976.
 
2014-01-14 03:17:37 PM

Nana's Vibrator: flak attack: Any hatred I have toward Brady can be summed up with 2 words: Boston fans.

[atlantablackstar.com image 352x234]


Not a Falcons fan.  Sorry.
 
2014-01-14 03:18:44 PM

Henry Holland: My main memory of Joe Namath isn't him winning the Superb Owl, it's him looking like a 97 year old man when I saw him play for the Rams in 1977. Sad, very sad.

As for Brady, I don't get the negativity towards him. He's the classic American story: he's worked really hard to be good at what he does, he's reaped the rewards. Is he a dick in post-game interviews? Sure, but so what, considering the amount of mind-numbingly stupid questions people like him after to answer at those things, it's amazing to me they don't pull out taser guns and fire them at the person who asked the dumb question. Are he and Belichick and the rest of them smug assholes sometimes? Sure, but their time will pass and it'll be back to earth for that franchise. Let's see how many 20-something women show up in Bob Kraft's luxury box then.

I also don't get the whole "Waaah! He's won three Superb Owls! He's dated and then married supermodels!!! Waaah!" nonsense. Yeah, pro athletes are sooooo prone to dating women that look like Melissa McCarthy. Oh wait, they like bleached blonde/fake boobs arm candy.

Plus, the whole "Brady is entitled, Peyton is the salt of the earth" meme is such crap. Peyton has been focused on being what he's become since he was a kid, he's the freakin' son of a former NFL quarterback and the brother of a current NFL quarterback, it's not like his parents were nuclear physicists and he came out of nowhere to be an NFL QB. It's actually a little creepy to me that he seems to have been so maniacally focused on football for so long.

Oh, and Peyton's a die-hard Republican and likes the awful Kenney Chesney, so fark him. [shields up]

/Tase me, bro


I think that actress Kraft was banging was in her 40s, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if you're a billionaire and you own an NFL team, pretty sure that the supply of hot 20 something women in the owner's box is never ending.
 
2014-01-14 03:24:58 PM

ristst: Orgasmatron138: Still kinda is. The biography that came out a couple years ago got a ton of hate in the media for that rsason. People are flawed. IMO that doesn't change the fact that he's one of the best ever.

Are you referring to his episode of A Football Life? That show does address more than just the football.  They've made it clear that they're not afraid to point out a player's flaws, both on and off the field.  But they did it in a way so as not to tarnish his greatness.  His actions were what they were.

The Derek Thomas episode is a good example.  They certainly didn't gloss over the fact that he had many children by many different women, none of whom he married.  But on the other hand DT gave a great deal back to those less fortunate than him...he gave of himself both personally and financially, and that's a lot more than many can say.


No, it's an actual book.
 
2014-01-14 03:26:31 PM
I have no hatred for Brady. I dislike him because he plays for a team that's been far more successful than the ones that i root for over the past decade. And QBs are the face and brand of the teams in today's NFL,so he gets to be the face of my dislike of the Patriots.
 
2014-01-14 03:27:30 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: Transpogue: Zulu_as_Kono: Transpogue: The *charm* of a Bears fan is that we will talk about that game like it happened last year.  We all know- we really do- that it happened almost thirty years ago and also know the many, many flaws of Ditka, but they were exacerbated by how Buddy ran the defense.  But that's a whole other story...

You do remember that the Bears won that game, right? And the defense that year was one of the best ever?

You have the facts correct.  We killed the Pats.  We had a 15-1 record.  Buddy built an incredible, nearly flawless defense.

However, Ditka and Buddy couldn't work together.  You're not going to have a legacy team- year after year- if you build a team based on animosity.  That's why we never won another championship, IMO.  Too much ish behind the scenes, too much distracting drama.

And because of all that you hate the Pats? Ok, I guess.


Noooo I was answering a question about the Bears defense.

Bottom line...
I don't like Brady because a)He's a Patriot and Bears fans don't like the Patriots, and b)Patriots' fans are a bit insufferable.  I'll add to that c) Brady is a bit of a prima donna.
 
2014-01-14 03:39:28 PM
Fan = fanatic = they're ALL insufferable...............

/it's just a game.....
 
2014-01-14 03:42:02 PM

Cubicle Jockey: Zulu_as_Kono: obeymatt: I'm sure she understands too.

I think you got lost on your way to people.com.

That's Bridget Moynahan.
Tom Brady had a kid with her before he started dating Gisele.
ZaK was insinuating that Ms. Moynahan does not like Mr. Brady, but there relationship has been friendly or at least cordial since they split up.


by cordial, you mean he is making those payments on time, right?
 
2014-01-14 03:43:44 PM

Mikey1969: It's because he's a whiny prima donna who gets the satin glove treatment from the refs.


What you just said, I agree with.
 
2014-01-14 03:45:12 PM
Why is Joe Namath in the Hall of Fame again?

Career TD's 173
Career INT's 220

12 years in the league and finished with a losing record  62-63-4 and a 50.1% completion rate.

Oh 1 SB ring.
 
2014-01-14 03:53:02 PM
Living in Boston and being a fan of another team, what I hate are bandwagon Patriot fans, not Brady.  People seem to forget that I grew up here and knew them all my life, and know that they paid ZERO attention to football before 2001. Suddenly they all have Brady jerseys and Patriot bumper stickers like they never existed before. Like my idiot ex-sister-in-law who, when asked about her new Welker jersey a couple years back, said she was a fan of his ever since the Patriots drafted him. Now, granted, this isn't a blanket statement. There were plenty of long-suffering Pats fans. I just hate the idea that all these fair-weather fans have basically had, what... almost 14 years of winning seasons? Thanks, Brady.
 
2014-01-14 03:53:44 PM

JusticeandIndependence: Why is Joe Namath in the Hall of Fame again?


Because just about anyone gets into the football HOF.
 
2014-01-14 03:58:48 PM

JusticeandIndependence: Why is Joe Namath in the Hall of Fame again?

Career TD's 173
Career INT's 220

12 years in the league and finished with a losing record  62-63-4 and a 50.1% completion rate.

Oh 1 SB ring.


Broadway Joe is credited for 3 things in particular regarding the NFL.

1) First media superstar from the NFL  (movies, commercials, TV)
2) First QB to throw for 4000 yards during 1967 season
3) Credited with the start of a transformation to primarily a passing game.


here's my citation - Namath was the game's first true media superstar, and also the first quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards during the 14-game 1967 season. Nobody achieved this feat again until http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Fouts">Dan Fouts in 1979, a year after the NFL adopted a 16-game season format and enacted new rules that gave more protection to quarterbacks and wide receivers. Namath's style of play in the years before his knees limited his mobility helped evolve the quarterback position in the NFL, and also initiated a gradual change in the typical style of an NFL offense from a run-oriented ball control game to a more open passing style.
 
2014-01-14 03:59:59 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: Transpogue: The *charm* of a Bears fan is that we will talk about that game like it happened last year.  We all know- we really do- that it happened almost thirty years ago and also know the many, many flaws of Ditka, but they were exacerbated by how Buddy ran the defense.  But that's a whole other story...

You do remember that the Bears won that game, right? And the defense that year was one of the best ever?


If you don't just watch ESPN NFL countdown cuz Ditka will tell you, every week
 
2014-01-14 04:12:51 PM

Nana's Vibrator: SigmaAlgebra: Unless Namath got coddled by the league and was allowed to play under a different set of rules than 90% of QBs, I don't think he understands the hatred for Brady.

Carson Palmer's knee is shredded. Unfortunate, but that happens sometimes in football.

Brady's knee is shredded. We must change the rules so this never happens again!

Roethlisberger's nose gets broken by a forearm shiver. Great play by Ngata.

Brady's helmet gets the slightest graze. Personal foul, roughing the passer, 15 yard penalty, automatic first down.

You're wrong.  Brady was the beneficiary of 2 roughing the passer calls this year - tied with 5 teams for 16th in the NFL - including Pittsburgh.  The year before he was tied with 8 other teams at 2, making them 15th; Pittsburgh was ahead with 3.
And you'd have to be crazy to think that the "Brady Rule" wasn't the result of an accumulation of injuries.


Shh, that doesn't fit the narrative.
 
2014-01-14 04:24:57 PM
count_chimpula: I think that actress Kraft was banging was in her 40s, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if you're a billionaire and you own an NFL team, pretty sure that the supply of hot 20 something women in the owner's box is never ending.

Oh, no doubt, but it appears that "actress" (my favorite role: Cult Member) was a mere 32 when Kraft started banging dating her.

Just for the record, as it were.

/NTTAWWT as long as its consensual
 
2014-01-14 04:28:37 PM
Why is Joe Namath in the Hall of Fame again?

Career TD's 173
Career INT's 220

12 years in the league and finished with a losing record  62-63-4 and a 50.1% completion rate.

Oh 1 SB ring.


Because,everything in sports cannot be gauged solely by numbers. i know this is a ludicrous idea for most Fark sports geeks
 
2014-01-14 04:34:22 PM

Mikey1969: Pants_Optional: Mikey1969: It's because he's a whiny prima donna who gets the satin glove treatment from the refs.

As a non-Pats fan from/living in New England, this is pretty much it.  Well that and Pats fans are the worst.

Luckily, I looked at my post before adding it... I had him down as getting "satin LOVE" treatment.



Still applicable.
 
2014-01-14 04:42:16 PM
Transpogue:However, Ditka and Buddy couldn't work together.  You're not going to have a legacy team- year after year- if you build a team based on animosity.  That's why we never won another championship, IMO.  Too much ish behind the scenes, too much distracting drama.

Apparently Buddy had problems working with pretty much everyone.  If you get the chance, watch the episode of A Football Life on the Houston '93 team.  Buddy was the D-coordinator for that team, and he was full-on insane...and not in a good way.  Despite their success, he bashed the O-coordinator's Run & Shoot offense openly (in an extremely nasty way), drove a huge wedge between the offense and defense on the team (every practice literally became a war), and even took a swing at the OC during one game.

I watched that episode in pure disbelief. It was one of the most interesting episodes of the entire series...and they've had some good ones.
 
2014-01-14 04:48:38 PM
ristst:
Apparently Buddy had problems working with pretty much everyone.  If you get the chance, watch the episode of A Football Life on the Houston '93 team.  Buddy was the D-coordinator for that team, and he was full-on insane...and not in a good way.  Despite their success, he bashed the O-coordinator's Run & Shoot offense openly (in an extremely nasty way), drove a huge wedge between the offense and defense on the team (every practice literally became a war), and even took a swing at the OC during one game.

I watched that episode in pure disbelief. It was one of the most interesting episodes of the entire series...and they've had some good ones.


That sounds like something to look for.   Rex Ryan did the same crap in Baltimore (probably not as badly, but he did drive a 'us against them' mentality with the Ravens offense).    Thanks for the suggestion.
 
2014-01-14 04:49:35 PM

you are a puppet: Because he's a good looking millionaire married to a supermodel who happens to win a lot of football games


I keep thinking there's a joke in here that will be funny without getting me turned out of my house.
 
2014-01-14 04:57:13 PM

Starshines: You're wrong.  Brady was the beneficiary of 2 roughing the passer calls this year - tied with 5 teams for 16th in the NFL - including Pittsburgh.  The year before he was tied with 8 other teams at 2, making them 15th; Pittsburgh was ahead with 3.
And you'd have to be crazy to think that the "Brady Rule" wasn't the result of an accumulation of injuries.

Shh, that doesn't fit the narrative.


It's classic.  He benefits from 5 roughing the passer calls in 48 regular season games - lower than the league average.  But he's some prima donna who gets all the calls.
Hey guys!  Where's the outrage over Tennessee and Chicago?  Oh...their babied QB's are pedestrian and their coaches get fired.  No need to look at what's going on there.
 
2014-01-14 05:08:26 PM

Transpogue: Bottom line...
I don't like Brady because a)He's a Patriot and Bears fans don't like the Patriots, and b)Patriots' fans are a bit insufferable. I'll add to that c) Brady is a bit of a prima donna.


I'm a Bears fan, and I don't know where you get the idea that Bears fans don't like Patriots. Hell, we clobbered them once thirty years ago and it's still our favorite memory. We only play them every few years; I don't think the Patriots are even on most fan's radars. There are a lot of teams that have beaten us badly since 1985 that deserve far more "hate".

/I don't hate any NFL franchise; I only really hate when the Packers beat the Bears. It made me sick a few weeks ago when we lost, even though I didn't expect much in the postseason.
/still respect GB, and have a number of friends and relatives in or from WI.
 
2014-01-14 05:20:08 PM

Cubicle Jockey: Zulu_as_Kono: obeymatt: I'm sure she understands too.

I think you got lost on your way to people.com.

That's Bridget Moynahan.
Tom Brady had a kid with her before he started dating Gisele.
ZaK was insinuating that Ms. Moynahan does not like Mr. Brady, but there relationship has been friendly or at least cordial since they split up.


I heard that she went off the pill when the relationship was getting rocky to get pregnant and force Brady to stay with her. Didn't work.
 
2014-01-14 06:23:27 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Oh...their babied QB's are pedestrian and their coaches get fired.


Well, they get injured every year, so there is that to consider. All RTPs are not created equal.
 
2014-01-14 06:32:01 PM

skrame: Transpogue: Bottom line...
I don't like Brady because a)He's a Patriot and Bears fans don't like the Patriots, and b)Patriots' fans are a bit insufferable. I'll add to that c) Brady is a bit of a prima donna.

I'm a Bears fan, and I don't know where you get the idea that Bears fans don't like Patriots. Hell, we clobbered them once thirty years ago and it's still our favorite memory. We only play them every few years; I don't think the Patriots are even on most fan's radars. There are a lot of teams that have beaten us badly since 1985 that deserve far more "hate".

/I don't hate any NFL franchise; I only really hate when the Packers beat the Bears. It made me sick a few weeks ago when we lost, even though I didn't expect much in the postseason.
/still respect GB, and have a number of friends and relatives in or from WI.


Different side of town? Run with a more civilized Bears fan set? All I know is that if you mention the Patriots around any Bears fan I know they all roll their eyes and launch into a version of, "Those cheaters/assholes/dirty assholes/etc..." and sooner or later one of them will bring up SBXX.

Regardless, yes, Packers are- and will always be- the top of the rivalry rage list.  Can't escape that.  Rodgers has been a great gift to Chicago in helping increase the rage.  Vikings we pity, and Detroit we just put up with... and yes, I know they beat us twice this season... ugh.
 
2014-01-14 06:44:13 PM
As much as I think Brady is the luckiest guy in the NFL, given the situation he's been put in over the years, he's a f*cking good quarterback (which is something Joe Namath WAS NOT).
 
2014-01-14 07:32:17 PM
I don't think that it is Brady that is hated as much as those in the media who make it their life's work to keep him fully fellated.
 
2014-01-14 07:35:29 PM
The old "you're just jealous" argument. Works every time.

Is it ok not to like Brady because he's a whiny biatch? I also don't like Manning because he's a derpy mook. Or Rivers because he's a mouthy hick.

I don't much like any of them. I'm sure they're quite disappointed to hear it, too.
 
2014-01-14 08:20:46 PM

Nana's Vibrator: flak attack: Any hatred I have toward Brady can be summed up with 2 words: Boston fans.

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 HAH!!!
 
2014-01-14 08:38:54 PM
I dislike him for a few basic reasons ...

1)  Boston fans.

and

2)  He Trent Dilfered his way to 3 Super Bowl titles.  He really was a mediocre quarterback on a seriously good team.

Since then, Brady has become a really damn good quarterback.  He's grown and developed into one of the best of all time -- but he hasn't won a Super Bowl since he got great.  Reason?  His teams.

So I dislike him based on the fact that his "greatness" is defined by his mediocrity -- not by him actually being great.  I realize this isn't really his fault -- but the media keeps bringing it up, so I'll dislike Brady until they get a clue.
 
2014-01-14 08:42:57 PM
The  reason why Brady is the most hated QB in a nation wide pole is quite simple. The populations of NY, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Oakland, St. Louis, Miami, Philadelphia, Baltimore, The Carolina's, Buffalo, Denver, San Diego, and Tennessee, outnumber the population of New England. The Pats have either knocked everyone of those cities teams out of the playoffs (Sometimes championship games) over the last decade, or it's a city that's a division rival. Napoleon was unpopular to outside of France. As a Pats fan I'll take it as a compliment.
 
2014-01-14 08:58:55 PM

Blink: I dislike him for a few basic reasons ...

1)  Boston fans.

and

2)  He Trent Dilfered his way to 3 Super Bowl titles.  He really was a mediocre quarterback on a seriously good team.

Since then, Brady has become a really damn good quarterback.  He's grown and developed into one of the best of all time -- but he hasn't won a Super Bowl since he got great.  Reason?  His teams.

So I dislike him based on the fact that his "greatness" is defined by his mediocrity -- not by him actually being great.  I realize this isn't really his fault -- but the media keeps bringing it up, so I'll dislike Brady until they get a clue.


You state that he's developed into "one of the best of all time" and then go on to say his greatness is defined by mediocrity. How could one of the greatest seem mediocre. You appear convoluted.  You also use the term "Dilfered" in regards to 3 SB Wins,  which makes no sense because if Dilfer won more superbowls no one would use the term "Dilfered" or in today's speak "Flacco'ed. Again convoluted.
 
2014-01-14 09:15:16 PM

Blink: He really was a mediocre quarterback on a seriously good team.
Since then, Brady has become a really damn good quarterback. He's grown and developed into one of the best of all time -- but he hasn't won a Super Bowl since he got great. Reason? His teams.


I think we're seeing the same thing happen right now with Russell Wilson. I don't think he's a great quarterback, but he is a good quarterback and he knows not to make mistakes. He may grow into a legendary quarterback someday, but right now his success is largely due to the stacked team in front of him.
 
2014-01-14 09:15:54 PM

Blink: I dislike him for a few basic reasons ...

1)  Boston fans.

and

2)  He Trent Dilfered his way to 3 Super Bowl titles.  He really was a mediocre quarterback on a seriously good team.

Since then, Brady has become a really damn good quarterback.  He's grown and developed into one of the best of all time -- but he hasn't won a Super Bowl since he got great.  Reason?  His teams.

So I dislike him based on the fact that his "greatness" is defined by his mediocrity -- not by him actually being great.  I realize this isn't really his fault -- but the media keeps bringing it up, so I'll dislike Brady until they get a clue.


Where I give Brieber all the credit in the world is HOW much better he's gotten, and how hard he had to work to do it.

Watch tape of him in his first season, then put in a recent game. Any game.

He's been one of the most mechanically sound quarterbacks in football for *years* now. And he got that way though thousands and thousands of hours really, really PITA work. Off-season, through vacations, you name it. I can't take that away from him regardless of how much I hate him. Those parts of his game I greatly admire and don't mind admitting.

Greatest ever? Not even close.  Top 10 of the modern era? Maybe...we'll talk. On an individual level he's up there now, but his teams have been shiatty and he's starting to show his age. If he don't get it this year or maybe next, it's over.
 
2014-01-14 09:18:39 PM

Ishkur: Blink: He really was a mediocre quarterback on a seriously good team.
Since then, Brady has become a really damn good quarterback. He's grown and developed into one of the best of all time -- but he hasn't won a Super Bowl since he got great. Reason? His teams.

I think we're seeing the same thing happen right now with Russell Wilson. I don't think he's a great quarterback, but he is a good quarterback and he knows not to make mistakes. He may grow into a legendary quarterback someday, but right now his success is largely due to the stacked team in front of him.


The good news is, he's smart enough to know how good he ISN'T and, more importantly, has the work ethic and brains to know he can get better. From what I hear, he's the closest to Peyton is sheer addiction to getting better at his craft about 26 hours a day.

I'm not saying he's the next Peyton or Brady. But he's got an awful lot of potential and enough brains to give it one hell of a shot if'n he can stay healthy.
 
2014-01-14 09:22:59 PM

obeymatt: I'm sure she understands too.

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I actually thinks she's hotter than Giselle.
 
2014-01-14 09:38:52 PM

Blink: So I dislike him based on the fact that his "greatness" is defined by his mediocrity


I'd criticize this rambling mess of a post, but you have a known bias against the Pats so we'll just forget it ever happened.
 
2014-01-14 09:54:43 PM

JusticeandIndependence: Why is Joe Namath in the Hall of Fame again?

Career TD's 173
Career INT's 220

12 years in the league and finished with a losing record  62-63-4 and a 50.1% completion rate.

Oh 1 SB ring.


And without that SB you'd still have the AFL and the NFL butting heads. That game literally changed the direction that professional football took as well as the fortunes of thousands and thousands of people, both in the league and networks. THAT'S why he's in the HOF.
 
2014-01-14 09:59:48 PM

Blink: I dislike him for a few basic reasons ...

1)  Boston fans.

and

2)  He Trent Dilfered his way to 3 Super Bowl titles.  He really was a mediocre quarterback on a seriously good team.


Hmm. Forget about that final drive against the Rams, when that idiot John Madden said they should just take a knee? Or that 2nd half against Carolina?

Selective memory is a wonderful thing, ain't it?
 
2014-01-14 10:00:45 PM

xaks: The good news is, he's smart enough to know how good he ISN'T and, more importantly, has the work ethic and brains to know he can get better. From what I hear, he's the closest to Peyton is sheer addiction to getting better at his craft about 26 hours a day


There was a good anecdote a few weeks ago after the Seahawks lost to the Cardinals -- their first home loss in two years. The game bothered Pete Carroll so much that he couldn't sleep. He couldn't get it out of his head -- all the preparation and doubt and things swimming through his mind. So finally, around 2am he said "fark it" to sleep, got out of bed and went down to the Seahawks clubhouse to watch some game footage.

When he got there, he found one other person already there: Russell Wilson.


Wilson is a preeminent student of the game. I love how after every drive, when the camera focuses on the Seahawks bench to find Wilson, he always has his head buried in a clipboard, making notes. He has a work ethic and a drive rivaled by few in this league, and he's intelligent enough to know how to work on his deficiencies and improve, and I think that's what gives him better upside than some other upstarts doing it on raw skill (Kaepernick, RG3, etc.). But we shall see. A lot can happen in a career.
 
2014-01-15 09:00:54 AM

John Buck 41: Blink: I dislike him for a few basic reasons ...

1)  Boston fans.

and

2)  He Trent Dilfered his way to 3 Super Bowl titles.  He really was a mediocre quarterback on a seriously good team.

Hmm. Forget about that final drive against the Rams, when that idiot John Madden said they should just take a knee? Or that 2nd half against Carolina?

Selective memory is a wonderful thing, ain't it?


I am not a Boston fan but damn the dude is winning with a bunch of no-name receivers. Gronk is out, Hernandez is in jail, Welker is gone and Brady seems to have shown he can throw to anyone Bellichek can dig up.
 
2014-01-15 10:51:15 AM

ununcle: The  reason why Brady is the most hated QB in a nation wide pole is quite simple. The populations of NY, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Oakland, St. Louis, Miami, Philadelphia, Baltimore, The Carolina's, Buffalo, Denver, San Diego, and Tennessee, outnumber the population of New England. The Pats have either knocked everyone of those cities teams out of the playoffs (Sometimes championship games) over the last decade, or it's a city that's a division rival. Napoleon was unpopular to outside of France. As a Pats fan I'll take it as a compliment.


I think this post goes a long way toward proving my point about Boston fans.  I don't hate David Gerrard, Aaron Rodgers or John Elway, despite all of them having quarterbacked a team that eliminated mine.  There's a reason I hate New England and Brady and it doesn't have much to do with the team's performance.
 
2014-01-15 12:03:31 PM

coolio mack: Dr Dreidel: No Soap Radio: People hate him, at least in part, because he is not the stereotypical aggressive "tough guy" football player, though it certainly seems he's as tough and competitive as anyone else. The incongruity gives people fits. Not to mention he's playing in the same era as Peyton Manning, who at least maintains a somewhat hokey everyman doofus-y persona.

Last night, my roommate and I were discussing Philip Rivers. I FARKING HATE PHILIP RIVERS WITH A WHITE-HOT PASSION, but with Brady it's just sort of "Eh. Haters gonna hate."

Because Brady is hyper-competitive, but it shows mostly when he talks to teammates. Rivers is also hyper-competitive, but it shows in his jawing at the opposite sideline. I don't recall much of Brady shiat-talking the other squad.

He's had his moments when he's been prodded. Both him and Belichick clowned Anthony Smith of the Steelers a few years back when he guaranteed a win against them.  He also went in on Suggs a few years back.

Brady is one of my favorite athletes of all time. His competitiveness and the way he strives to get better is at a Michael Jordan/Kobe Bryant type level.


I don't think MJ ever had the league invent a rule invented specifically to help him.
 
2014-01-15 02:18:25 PM

flak attack: ununcle: The  reason why Brady is the most hated QB in a nation wide pole is quite simple. The populations of NY, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Oakland, St. Louis, Miami, Philadelphia, Baltimore, The Carolina's, Buffalo, Denver, San Diego, and Tennessee, outnumber the population of New England. The Pats have either knocked everyone of those cities teams out of the playoffs (Sometimes championship games) over the last decade, or it's a city that's a division rival. Napoleon was unpopular to outside of France. As a Pats fan I'll take it as a compliment.

I think this post goes a long way toward proving my point about Boston fans.  I don't hate David Gerrard, Aaron Rodgers or John Elway, despite all of them having quarterbacked a team that eliminated mine.  There's a reason I hate New England and Brady and it doesn't have much to do with the team's performance.


Well, why would you? You seldom have the chance to get eliminated. Many of the teams I mentioned have been eliminated many times over to the point where many teams that make it to the playoffs consistently form a rivalry. Indy, Pittsburg and San Diego have had several AFC Championships and they usually have to face the Pats.  The Falcons don't have such rivalries because there not consistently in the playoffs. Sorry if it gets you all hurtful in your tum tum when you see Pats fans notice how consistently relevant the Pats  are year in year out.
 
2014-01-15 03:46:33 PM

RINO: .

Brady is one of my favorite athletes of all time. His competitiveness and the way he strives to get better is at a Michael Jordan/Kobe Bryant type level.

I don't think MJ ever had the league invent a rule invented specifically to help him.


Really ???  ROFL......    You really think TB "had the league invent [this] rule to help him". You really think that, don't ya......

...............................
 
2014-01-15 04:06:04 PM

Dr Dreidel: Because Brady is hyper-competitive, but it shows mostly when he talks to teammates.


i've said this before and it bears repeating....perhaps because he's Hunky Tom Brady, the telecasts love, farking LOVVVVE to show the shot of Hunky Tom Brady yelling at his teammates, and then you hear the Bill Simmons, Jon Grudens, Cris Collinsworth and oh yeah, Peter "Hunky Tom Brady" Kings of the world jizzing their pants over his "fire", "leadership", "hypercompetitive, 'win at all costs'" mentality, etc.  Thing is, that happens all the godamn time on NFL sidelines.  Except when some shiatass 7-9 QB does it, it isn't FOR SOME REASON indicative of how firey / leadershipy that QB is. But when Hunky Tom Brady  does it, jesus chirst, that's all you hear.

the ARizona Super Bowl year, I think it was the NFC championship game when Anquan Boldin (admittedly, a bad example to use in light of his dumbassery Sunday) was caught jawing with both Kurt Warner and then-OC  Todd Haley.  When Boldin did what Brady does all the time, it was 'bad teammate', 'you can't criticize your own teammates', "bush league", and so on.  That was one of the story lines going into the super bowl.  settle down.  players yelling at their own teammates is not anything new.
 
2014-01-15 06:35:07 PM
Since 2004, he's lost in the playoffs 9 years in a row. Can't win the big one anymore. He's a choker
 
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