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(WBUR Boston)   We may be living in the Age of Kale, but remember: There can be no light without darkness   (commonhealth.wbur.org ) divider line
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2014-01-14 11:00:19 AM  
9 votes:
Gee, balance in a diet...whuddathunkit?

Folks: we are omnivorous apes, with a penchant for meat, and salt, and sweets, and are hardwired to enjoy the effects of alcohol, which in natural surrounds is sort of rare, but a source of important and opportunistic calories which is why birds and other critters seek out fermented berries too. We evolved to take in a LOT of food sources, because that is what made us the success stories we are today, coupled with manipulatory appendages and the intelligence to form tools and think ahead enough to cultivate crops and hunt successfully as differing strategies to glean food and protect our progeny. Our success isn't from being specialized into single sources of food, but a variety, and our digestive systems are designed for that purpose. We need more than just meat. We need more than just vegetables. We seek out some sources, because we're hardwired to seek out fat, salt, and easy calories in sweets, and to even bank those calories in our fatty tissues in case of famine. Those very desires can bite us on the ass, since we're not walking the savanna and getting chased by large cats, big ass birds, bears, and avoiding crocs. Likewise, we can flout those desires at our own peril, because we have these ridiculously oversized brains that are a huge sink for our metabolic processes and that very brainpower can lead us on some odd choices, because we seem to think that those hardwired urges are irrelevant.

Balance, kids. Balance in all things. Eat a diet that is varied, balanced, and get some damn exercise, and maybe keep off the fads, because someone realized that a food source has some stuff that our bodies need. "Superfoods" are a fad. Eat a varied diet, exercise, and maybe realize that too much of anything, including water, is not such a great thing. Too much of anything is not good for you. Except, of course, bacon. Bacon is your King. Well, that and Irish Coffee since it contains all of the four food groups: caffeine group, alcohol group, sugar group, and the fat group...
2014-01-14 12:07:09 PM  
4 votes:

baconbeard: hubiestubert: sigdiamond2000: baconbeard: Things I used to enjoy but now hate with a passion:

1. Prosciutto
2. Sriracha
3. Kale

/screw you, "foodies"

It makes sense to let people you hate completely inform your life choices.

Truly it is tragic when hipsters have to deal with the mainstream taking their stuff...

Of come on. Do you not agree that the three examples above have been done to death ad nauseam? There's "popular", and then there's stupid.


stupid is stopping liking sriracha because: popular That's just pathetic, son.
2014-01-14 11:51:17 AM  
4 votes:

baconbeard: Things I used to enjoy but now hate with a passion:

1. Prosciutto
2. Sriracha
3. Kale

/screw you, "foodies"


It makes sense to let people you hate completely inform your life choices.
2014-01-14 09:56:02 AM  
4 votes:

Mangoose: People who like vegetables are weird.


you sound fat.
2014-01-14 09:50:51 AM  
3 votes:

Mangoose: People who like vegetables are weird.

They're not bad people, per se. Just....really farking weird.


You only ate McDonalds and frozen chicken fingers as a child, didn't you?
2014-01-14 01:09:26 PM  
2 votes:

baconbeard: You know I'm right.


*SMH*

Sorry, I'm not understanding *shrug* not at all. You lapped it up like good little hipster you are, to the point that you've grown, what, a distaste for these (otherwise beloved) foodstuffs, because you have toy-sharing issues stemming back to, probably, infancy, where it was left untreated, undiagnosed, and thus nurtured into adulthood, now manifest in your current predicament. Your loss and seperation anxiety alone are powering a good chunk of your current depressive cycle, why not grab it as a chance to be social with others, break the phobia. Like what everyone else likes, not because everyone else likes it. Like it because it is Good, and you like good things. Try asking how her day was, it's always a good start.
2014-01-14 01:01:16 PM  
2 votes:
I think there are two real issues here:

1) The vilification of iodized salt mean that most of us are not getting enough dietary iodine to help out thyroid do their job.

2) The encomiums for raw food overlook the fact that some food really should be cooked for optimal digestion.

The article even says that cooked kale is not an issue the way raw kale is. And kale holds up beautifully in soups, quiches, and tarts. It works a lot better than spinach or other greens which melt into a fabric-like mushiness.
2014-01-14 12:09:21 PM  
2 votes:

baconbeard: Things I used to enjoy but now hate with a passion:

1. Prosciutto
2. Sriracha
3. Kale

/screw you, "foodies"


forums.watchuseek.com

/DON'T
2014-01-14 11:38:45 AM  
2 votes:
Maybe I haven't had the right kale yet.  Kale chips are unimpressive and kale in salads is like eating wet pine needles or toothbrushes, always something catching or pricking at the roof of your mouth.  So to speak.

Yes, even after "massaging".  After all that work I'd just rather have spinach.

So I don't like the kale.  Every other green's pretty cool.

I do find it sad when grown-ass men and women proudly proclaim they don't like or eat vegetables.
2014-01-14 11:31:22 AM  
2 votes:

Mangoose: CapeFearCadaver: Mangoose: People who like vegetables are weird.

They're not bad people, per se. Just....really farking weird.

You only ate McDonalds and frozen chicken fingers as a child, didn't you?

No. Though I ate pretty much Cherrios for a good part of my early life, I'm told.


doublesecretprobation: Mangoose: People who like vegetables are weird.

you sound fat.

I do, don't I?

Sorry but most vegetables just don't taste that good in the grande scheme of cuisine. Let's say, science develops a treatment where you could eat anything you wanted and it wouldn't be unhealthy, etc.  Would you choose to eat kale? Or would you choose to something that actually tasted good?

You can thank my seven-year old for that question.


I'm betting that I could get your seven year old to eat a kale chip, and love it. Then again, that's sort of my job. I make yummy food, and I look at the whole palette of foods to do so, as opposed to just a thin swath. But then again, that's my job.

Food choices are set early. They can be reset, because humans are good at upending their diets when conditions change, and that's not a bad thing, but likewise, we're hardwired to look at the food of our youth as the "normal" conditions as well. We are just savanna walking apes after all that occasionally stopped by water sources and often found easy calories there, while we watched out for killer reptiles, cats, and snakes. We long for the normality of our youth, because that was set down for us as being the conditions that we should look for. Of course, if the conditions of our youth were particularly bad--famine, poverty, or wartime conditions of rationing, we can associate the foods of those times as being really bad too. The brain is really good at making associations. We don't have to be slaves to that conditioning though.
2014-01-14 02:34:23 PM  
1 vote:
 
They're not bad people, per se. Just....really farking weird.

For every vegetable you don't eat, I'm going to eat three.



Hurray!  I've been waiting a long time to see the table turned on Fark's resident carnibigots who think that's funny every damn time.


baconbeard: hubiestubert: sigdiamond2000: baconbeard: Things I used to enjoy but now hate with a passion:

1. Prosciutto
2. Sriracha
3. Kale

/screw you, "foodies"

It makes sense to let people you hate completely inform your life choices.

Truly it is tragic when hipsters have to deal with the mainstream taking their stuff...

Of come on. Do you not agree that the three examples above have been done to death ad nauseam? There's "popular", and then there's stupid.

stupid is stopping liking sriracha because: popular That's just pathetic, son.


Yeah, this.  If you're tired of something, stop eating it, but don't go blaming other people because they like it too, particularly when they're the ones who introduced you to it.  Sriracha is great stuff, and I was quite late to that trend.  I'm glad I tried it, and it was based on seeing the name all over the place.


CapeFearCadaver: Mangoose: Sorry but most vegetables just don't taste that good in the grande scheme of cuisine.

Your taste buds are weird. Just... really farking weird.

Nah. Humans are wired to find things like fats, salts, and sugars more rewarding -- all the stuff that veggies tend to be lacking in. I don't doubt some people genuinely get off on veggies, in and of themselves. (Though in my experience, there's usually some sort of philosophical component at work.)

But, for the other 95% of the human race, it's about the preparation. And the preparation almost always involves adding some sort of fat, salt, or sugar.



What, and that doesn't apply to "non-vegetables"?  It's darn sure 'about the preparation' with everything!  Try eating your chicken or steak raw and without ANY salt or other seasoning.  Try doing the same with pasta or even eggs.  Maybe the only thing that doesn't take "preparation" is milk, and your friendly neighborhood momma cow has done an awful lot of work to prepare that.
2014-01-14 01:00:33 PM  
1 vote:
Unpasteurized sauerkraut is where it's at!
2014-01-14 12:57:30 PM  
1 vote:

baconbeard: hubiestubert: sigdiamond2000: baconbeard: Things I used to enjoy but now hate with a passion:

1. Prosciutto
2. Sriracha
3. Kale

/screw you, "foodies"

It makes sense to let people you hate completely inform your life choices.

Truly it is tragic when hipsters have to deal with the mainstream taking their stuff...

Of come on. Do you not agree that the three examples above have been done to death ad nauseam? There's "popular", and then there's stupid.


...and then there's the folks who consider other folks' choices ruining their own. The common factor isn't "foodies" it's your own smug sense of smugness...

Mind you, I'm a chef, so I am fully aware of folks hopping on a bandwagon, and running it down to ground, but in the end, you have to do your own thing, and hope that the public is with you. You forge ahead, you do your own food to the best of your ability, and you look to set trends as opposed to following them. That means being aware of what's going on in the industry, but to avoid others' pitfalls.

"Foodies" haven't ruined anything. They've springboarded some mediocre chefs to a spotlight, and in fairness, the industry has mined folks fairly well, and used them poorly, but they're not the problem. The industry itself has issues, and part of that has to do with distributors, part of that has to do with the suppliers, part of that has to do with the competition, and part of that has to do with the embrasure of the idiocy that has turned the Food Network into a casting call for chefs more interested in fame and their own brand, than the food that they produce. "Foodies" aren't to blame, but for damn sure you can level some of that acid towards marketing folks, and suits who promulgate this idea that the industry is about star chefs, as opposed to the team effort of talented folks with a passion. It has elevated a business model over the art, and while restaurants should have folks with some business acumen at the head, in the end, restaurants are a melding of business and art, which are not always good bed partners.

Trends be damned. Trends are what folks follow. You can follow, or you can blaze your own trails. Let everyone else catch up, and make some cash in the meantime.
2014-01-14 12:36:45 PM  
1 vote:
This is the proper way to eat kale that my family has been eating since before I was born and way before kale became the "it" vegetable.

www.kohlpinkel.de
2014-01-14 12:31:54 PM  
1 vote:

TheShavingofOccam123: Hops in beer is the best example I can think of where something good and decent--the hopping of beer--was turned into sheer evil. I'm waiting to find a bottle of ale that resembles a kelp bed due to all the hops flowers in it. I know it's out there. And I will spin my head and puke pea soup when it shows up.

Or maybe higher and higher ABV in ales

/if you like hops, that's great. but I'm pretty sure the entire craft beer industry is headed towards a large backlash
/people been saying that for years...


I agree that they've gotten out of control with the hopping. A much, much dumber trend is brewing beer and adding weird shiat like moon dust or whale or whatever the fark. That just plain stupid.
2014-01-14 12:21:44 PM  
1 vote:
wait... are you telling me that consuming an enormous amount of one thing may be unhealthy, even though it is healthy in normal quantities?
2014-01-14 12:03:28 PM  
1 vote:
Vegetables are great, I love lots of different vegetables. I also love meats. And seafood. Don't get me going on fried chicken. Mmm. In short, I love food because of its diversity. I can go where I'm craving. Sure I crave ice cream. Then i have some and the craving goes away. Then i crave my pan seared broccoli. (yes, this is not only possible, but if you tasted my pan seared broccoli you would crave it too)

Sometimes I crave a good steak on the grill. Other times I want skirt steak on a salad with boston lettuce, grilled onions, blue cheese and sweet and spicy pecans. And a bottle of wine.

One of the greatest gifts my parents gave me was a love of the food rainbow. About the only things that don't interest me are foods that are poorly prepared or made with godawful ingredients. In short, the food my mother in law makes.
2014-01-14 11:56:52 AM  
1 vote:

baconbeard: Things I used to enjoy but now hate with a passion:

1. Prosciutto
2. Sriracha
3. Kale

/screw you, "foodies"


I'll bet you also hate movies because the sequel sucks, and you just HATE a song once it gets overplayed on the radio.

/the problem is you
2014-01-14 11:55:15 AM  
1 vote:

Mangoose: People who like vegetables are weird.

They're not bad people, per se. Just....really farking weird.


Are you five years old?
2014-01-14 11:51:13 AM  
1 vote:
Wait... so basing your diet on one SuperFood that you think is only good and can't possibly have negative side effects from over-consumption is not smart?

Whodathunk?
2014-01-14 11:50:44 AM  
1 vote:

Far Cough: I do find it sad when grown-ass men and women proudly proclaim they don't like or eat vegetables.


They're not grown, they're childish.
2014-01-14 11:40:14 AM  
1 vote:
What the hell is wrong with kale? Granted, the only way I've ever had it was the main ingredient in good ol' Portuguese Kale soup. If you have a thing against kale, then use collard greens -- they're similar enough not to matter much.

/...in the soup, anyway.
2014-01-14 11:38:08 AM  
1 vote:

Mangoose: CapeFearCadaver: Mangoose: People who like vegetables are weird.

They're not bad people, per se. Just....really farking weird.

You only ate McDonalds and frozen chicken fingers as a child, didn't you?

No. Though I ate pretty much Cherrios for a good part of my early life, I'm told.


doublesecretprobation: Mangoose: People who like vegetables are weird.

you sound fat.

I do, don't I?

Sorry but most vegetables just don't taste that good in the grande scheme of cuisine. Let's say, science develops a treatment where you could eat anything you wanted and it wouldn't be unhealthy, etc.  Would you choose to eat kale? Or would you choose to something that actually tasted good?

You can thank my seven-year old for that question.


Most veggies taste far better than kale.
2014-01-14 11:32:23 AM  
1 vote:

Mangoose: Sorry but most vegetables just don't taste that good in the grande scheme of cuisine.


Your taste buds are weird. Just... really farking weird.
2014-01-14 11:19:12 AM  
1 vote:

CapeFearCadaver: Mangoose: People who like vegetables are weird.

They're not bad people, per se. Just....really farking weird.

You only ate McDonalds and frozen chicken fingers as a child, didn't you?


No. Though I ate pretty much Cherrios for a good part of my early life, I'm told.


doublesecretprobation: Mangoose: People who like vegetables are weird.

you sound fat.


I do, don't I?

Sorry but most vegetables just don't taste that good in the grande scheme of cuisine. Let's say, science develops a treatment where you could eat anything you wanted and it wouldn't be unhealthy, etc.  Would you choose to eat kale? Or would you choose to something that actually tasted good?

You can thank my seven-year old for that question.
2014-01-14 09:59:21 AM  
1 vote:
That's why I only use replica kale.

www.trafficdoorsandmore.com
2014-01-14 09:48:52 AM  
1 vote:
People who like vegetables are weird.

They're not bad people, per se. Just....really farking weird.
 
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