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(WTOP)   Welcome to your annual review. On the plus side, we're very impressed with the initiative you showed in repairing 1,200 school system laptops that were sitting in the warehouse. Gonna have to give you a big minus for selling them all online, though   (wtop.com) divider line 35
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2014-01-14 10:11:53 AM
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2014-01-14 11:36:23 AM
Good thing those laptops made every child an A student.
 
2014-01-14 11:38:17 AM
I swear if we went through the entire unused inventory of the U.S. Federal and State Governments we could probably come out in the green.
 
2014-01-14 11:42:42 AM
So they were broken and most likely going to sit in a wearhouse unused forever?
 
2014-01-14 11:42:52 AM

DubtodaIll: I swear if we went through the entire unused inventory of the U.S. Federal and State Governments we could probably come out in the green.


Just sell some of the federally-owned land in the west.
 
2014-01-14 11:46:56 AM
It is sad that no one gets fired anymore.  He just wrote a letter of resignation.
 
2014-01-14 11:48:37 AM

Quinzy: It is sad that no one gets fired anymore.  He just wrote a letter of resignation.


I don't think his not getting fired is going to matter too much in jail.
 
2014-01-14 11:49:08 AM

MindStalker: So they were broken and most likely going to sit in a wearhouse unused forever?


I think that was a possibility here and was probably was costing them money for the space at a warehouse.  But it's also possible the laptops weren't in the warehouse for very long and the school was planning to have someone else fix them to use them in the near future.  The article is missing details that would discount that possibility.  And this guy got busted for it, which means someone missed those laptops.

When I worked at a college, the crap that was sitting in a warehouse to be unused forever, no one would have ever noticed was missing, except perhaps our finance department which would have seen the warehouse bill go down.
 
2014-01-14 11:50:47 AM
Doesn't every laptop / computer made have an asset tag or serial #? I know of three separate cases where people have tried to sell off new or decommissioned IT equipment. Every one has been caught eventually......and there goes your security clearance, background check, etc.....
 
2014-01-14 11:51:34 AM
That's a stack of laptops 4 feet high, 10 feet wide, and 6 feet deep by my napkin calculations, not counting the power supplies.
 
2014-01-14 11:55:33 AM

lennavan: MindStalker: So they were broken and most likely going to sit in a wearhouse unused forever?

I think that was a possibility here and was probably was costing them money for the space at a warehouse.  But it's also possible the laptops weren't in the warehouse for very long and the school was planning to have someone else fix them to use them in the near future.  The article is missing details that would discount that possibility.  And this guy got busted for it, which means someone missed those laptops.

When I worked at a college, the crap that was sitting in a warehouse to be unused forever, no one would have ever noticed was missing, except perhaps our finance department which would have seen the warehouse bill go down.


Co-Worker of mine is from a suburb of Austin (not sure which) and his Mother works for the school district.  Apparently, after each school year they dump any laptop greater than 2 years old.  I mean *literally* throwing away fully functioning equipment because of a policy.  Not complaining, he did score us a fully functioning laser printer for the office and got me one of the first generation convertible tablet PCs from dell but still very wasteful and sad.
 
2014-01-14 11:56:47 AM

FrancoFile: DubtodaIll: I swear if we went through the entire unused inventory of the U.S. Federal and State Governments we could probably come out in the green.

Just sell some of the federally-owned land in the west.


Sorry, we can only sell those for pennies on the dollar to oil companies.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-01-14 12:00:58 PM

TheGreatGazoo: That's a stack of laptops 4 feet high, 10 feet wide, and 6 feet deep by my napkin calculations, not counting the power supplies.


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2014-01-14 12:07:45 PM

The Southern Logic Company: lennavan: MindStalker: So they were broken and most likely going to sit in a wearhouse unused forever?

I think that was a possibility here and was probably was costing them money for the space at a warehouse.  But it's also possible the laptops weren't in the warehouse for very long and the school was planning to have someone else fix them to use them in the near future.  The article is missing details that would discount that possibility.  And this guy got busted for it, which means someone missed those laptops.

When I worked at a college, the crap that was sitting in a warehouse to be unused forever, no one would have ever noticed was missing, except perhaps our finance department which would have seen the warehouse bill go down.

Co-Worker of mine is from a suburb of Austin (not sure which) and his Mother works for the school district.  Apparently, after each school year they dump any laptop greater than 2 years old.  I mean *literally* throwing away fully functioning equipment because of a policy.  Not complaining, he did score us a fully functioning laser printer for the office and got me one of the first generation convertible tablet PCs from dell but still very wasteful and sad.


15 years ago, that was reasonable.  In the corporate world, the devices would have been amortized over 24 months and budgeted for replacement.  Rather than trying to maintain 47 different BIOS and OS combinations, it's better from a maintenance and operations perspective to turn the machines over.

However, they ones that are still usable should get sold or repurposed so you can recover some of the residual value.
 
2014-01-14 12:07:53 PM

The Southern Logic Company: lennavan: MindStalker: So they were broken and most likely going to sit in a wearhouse unused forever?

I think that was a possibility here and was probably was costing them money for the space at a warehouse.  But it's also possible the laptops weren't in the warehouse for very long and the school was planning to have someone else fix them to use them in the near future.  The article is missing details that would discount that possibility.  And this guy got busted for it, which means someone missed those laptops.

When I worked at a college, the crap that was sitting in a warehouse to be unused forever, no one would have ever noticed was missing, except perhaps our finance department which would have seen the warehouse bill go down.

Co-Worker of mine is from a suburb of Austin (not sure which) and his Mother works for the school district.  Apparently, after each school year they dump any laptop greater than 2 years old.  I mean *literally* throwing away fully functioning equipment because of a policy.  Not complaining, he did score us a fully functioning laser printer for the office and got me one of the first generation convertible tablet PCs from dell but still very wasteful and sad.


This often happens from lack of IT personnel. You purchase devices with a 2 year warranty and you get rid of devices that are older than that. Anything else means you must have IT personnel on staff to take care of these devices. They part they are missing is the selling part, they could contract with a company to dispose of them, but school budgets unfortunately run year to year, its probably impossible for them to take the money from these sales and put back into other spending.
 
2014-01-14 12:10:23 PM

MindStalker: So they were broken and most likely going to sit in a wearhouse unused forever?


This.

Odds are they would have sat there until they were so out of date that were useless for anything other than the recycling bin. I went to an auction about 5 years ago and they had about 50 pallets of old desktops. Each one had about 15-20 on them. At they time they were maybe 8 years old and they sold for less than a dollar per pallet.
 
2014-01-14 12:10:26 PM

The Southern Logic Company: lennavan: MindStalker: So they were broken and most likely going to sit in a wearhouse unused forever?

I think that was a possibility here and was probably was costing them money for the space at a warehouse.  But it's also possible the laptops weren't in the warehouse for very long and the school was planning to have someone else fix them to use them in the near future.  The article is missing details that would discount that possibility.  And this guy got busted for it, which means someone missed those laptops.

When I worked at a college, the crap that was sitting in a warehouse to be unused forever, no one would have ever noticed was missing, except perhaps our finance department which would have seen the warehouse bill go down.

Co-Worker of mine is from a suburb of Austin (not sure which) and his Mother works for the school district.  Apparently, after each school year they dump any laptop greater than 2 years old.  I mean *literally* throwing away fully functioning equipment because of a policy.  Not complaining, he did score us a fully functioning laser printer for the office and got me one of the first generation convertible tablet PCs from dell but still very wasteful and sad.


The place I work, they destroy laptops after a few years.

Apparently they just throw them in giant grinders.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-01-14 12:14:19 PM

FrancoFile: 15 years ago, that was reasonable. In the corporate world, the devices would have been amortized over 24 months and budgeted for replacement. Rather than trying to maintain 47 different BIOS and OS combinations, it's better from a maintenance and operations perspective to turn the machines over.

However, they ones that are still usable should get sold or repurposed so you can recover some of the residual value.


Or, at least sold to a salvage company.  That's really irresponsible management.
 
2014-01-14 12:14:20 PM

TheGreatGazoo: That's a stack of laptops 4 feet high, 10 feet wide, and 6 feet deep by my napkin calculations, not counting the power supplies.


That's a cord of laptops!
 
2014-01-14 12:15:18 PM

FrancoFile: The Southern Logic Company: lennavan: MindStalker: So they were broken and most likely going to sit in a wearhouse unused forever?

I think that was a possibility here and was probably was costing them money for the space at a warehouse.  But it's also possible the laptops weren't in the warehouse for very long and the school was planning to have someone else fix them to use them in the near future.  The article is missing details that would discount that possibility.  And this guy got busted for it, which means someone missed those laptops.

When I worked at a college, the crap that was sitting in a warehouse to be unused forever, no one would have ever noticed was missing, except perhaps our finance department which would have seen the warehouse bill go down.

Co-Worker of mine is from a suburb of Austin (not sure which) and his Mother works for the school district.  Apparently, after each school year they dump any laptop greater than 2 years old.  I mean *literally* throwing away fully functioning equipment because of a policy.  Not complaining, he did score us a fully functioning laser printer for the office and got me one of the first generation convertible tablet PCs from dell but still very wasteful and sad.

15 years ago, that was reasonable.  In the corporate world, the devices would have been amortized over 24 months and budgeted for replacement.  Rather than trying to maintain 47 different BIOS and OS combinations, it's better from a maintenance and operations perspective to turn the machines over.

However, they ones that are still usable should get sold or repurposed so you can recover some of the residual value.


That is the saddest part, 95% of them were useable.  They were mostly in perfect working order, maybe needed to be reimaged but there were no software/hardware problems with them.  Sure they're not latest gen but is there really THAT big of a difference between core2duo and an i5? (in b4 "2 cores")

I didn't consider amortization; that would be a good explanation for at least what the school system is thinking when getting rid of them.  I just can't believe they are going in the dumpster when there are plenty of underprivileged kids in Texas without regular access to a computer.
 
2014-01-14 12:16:27 PM
It makes sense to destroy the hard drives on old machines due to confidential data but throwing out the whole thing is a waste
 
2014-01-14 12:17:07 PM

MrSplifferton: The Southern Logic Company: lennavan: MindStalker: So they were broken and most likely going to sit in a wearhouse unused forever?

I think that was a possibility here and was probably was costing them money for the space at a warehouse.  But it's also possible the laptops weren't in the warehouse for very long and the school was planning to have someone else fix them to use them in the near future.  The article is missing details that would discount that possibility.  And this guy got busted for it, which means someone missed those laptops.

When I worked at a college, the crap that was sitting in a warehouse to be unused forever, no one would have ever noticed was missing, except perhaps our finance department which would have seen the warehouse bill go down.

Co-Worker of mine is from a suburb of Austin (not sure which) and his Mother works for the school district.  Apparently, after each school year they dump any laptop greater than 2 years old.  I mean *literally* throwing away fully functioning equipment because of a policy.  Not complaining, he did score us a fully functioning laser printer for the office and got me one of the first generation convertible tablet PCs from dell but still very wasteful and sad.

The place I work, they destroy laptops after a few years.

Apparently they just throw them in giant grinders.


cheaper than opening them up and removing hard drives.  cause we all know that just "wiping" them never works
 
2014-01-14 12:19:56 PM
Any bets as to what vintage we're actually talking about?  My guess is 1999-2000 era iBook Tangerines.  Maybe get him $40 a piece fixed up.  Or, in cop math, 1.4 million dollars worth of laptops.
 
2014-01-14 12:21:40 PM
Dude should have known they'd be missed. In my world all computers taken out of service are wiped, logged and followed up until they are donated to a human service organization that fixes em up an sells them or gives them to clients with disabilities. Of course, we score a tax write-off. Can't even imagine the school district doesn't either sell out right or donate.
 
2014-01-14 12:22:27 PM
Here at my job I have a closet full of toner for machines we no longer have but are still used by others. I could make a nice bundle selling them but I would proably get caught.
 
2014-01-14 12:30:49 PM
At any given moment I sometimes wonder how many items for sale at sites like eBay are actually stolen item.
 
2014-01-14 12:30:50 PM
I worked as a contractor for the Army. This unit had moved from Virginia and had never had a physical inventory when they moved. About two years after the move, this box shows up. Lots of old laptops and an XP tablet that had never been used. Old Harry thinks no one missed this stuff, so he stores the tablet and a Fujitsu Laptop in a special storage area. Just to see what happens.

So it's time for the unit to be absorbed by a higher command. They go through and come up with 20 missing laptops. So the users go through the safes and their desk drawers and lo and behold, eight laptops pop up. I go to my storage area and 'find' two more. Now, the ten remaining missing laptops have been signed for. Some of the people are still there. I sit back and wait for the Statement of Charges to come through. Nope. They just write off the ten laptops. Never existed. Can you top that?

Well, actually, I can. A few years prior, I worked for the Air Force. The unit rotated these Captains (promotable) in to the Green Zone for 90 days. When they came home, they put themselves in for the same award the previous Captain put themselves in for. Had a file saved in FormFlow. Just change the name and the dates and send it off.

This captain wanted a Dell laptop M6300 to watch movies on (cough cough porn). He did his 90 days, got on a plane, flew to Germany, then to New York and finally back to St. Louis. At St. Louis, he had called the newspapers and TV stations to report a war hero returning and a couple of them showed up. He walks up to the cameras, puts down his computer case, talks about being a hero and America and Freedoms for everyone and then walks off like a hero to his wife and kids. Only he didn't pick up the computer. So, I prepare a Statement of Charges for one lost computer. He's been in the GZ for 90 days, he's got the money to pay for it but he fights it. After a couple of weeks, the settle the SoC as "Lost in Combat".
 
2014-01-14 12:32:11 PM
ts2.mm.bing.net
Whats an old laptop worth?
 
2014-01-14 12:51:50 PM
I'm not saying I "stole" computers...I'm just providing some undocumented offsite storage. :D
 
2014-01-14 12:52:37 PM

Harry Freakstorm: I worked as a contractor for the Army. This unit had moved from Virginia and had never had a physical inventory when they moved. About two years after the move, this box shows up. Lots of old laptops and an XP tablet that had never been used. Old Harry thinks no one missed this stuff, so he stores the tablet and a Fujitsu Laptop in a special storage area. Just to see what happens.

So it's time for the unit to be absorbed by a higher command. They go through and come up with 20 missing laptops. So the users go through the safes and their desk drawers and lo and behold, eight laptops pop up. I go to my storage area and 'find' two more. Now, the ten remaining missing laptops have been signed for. Some of the people are still there. I sit back and wait for the Statement of Charges to come through. Nope. They just write off the ten laptops. Never existed. Can you top that?

Well, actually, I can. A few years prior, I worked for the Air Force. The unit rotated these Captains (promotable) in to the Green Zone for 90 days. When they came home, they put themselves in for the same award the previous Captain put themselves in for. Had a file saved in FormFlow. Just change the name and the dates and send it off.

This captain wanted a Dell laptop M6300 to watch movies on (cough cough porn). He did his 90 days, got on a plane, flew to Germany, then to New York and finally back to St. Louis. At St. Louis, he had called the newspapers and TV stations to report a war hero returning and a couple of them showed up. He walks up to the cameras, puts down his computer case, talks about being a hero and America and Freedoms for everyone and then walks off like a hero to his wife and kids. Only he didn't pick up the computer. So, I prepare a Statement of Charges for one lost computer. He's been in the GZ for 90 days, he's got the money to pay for it but he fights it. After a couple of weeks, the settle the SoC as "Lost in Combat".


Maybe I'm reading it wrong but from the way it was written I got the impression that you like thieving and have no problem being a douche to a guy who accidentally lost his laptop.

Sorry, maybe I'm wrong but that's how it sounds. Am I incorrect?
 
2014-01-14 01:00:57 PM

stuffy: [ts2.mm.bing.net image 171x170]
Whats an old laptop worth?


is that a steampunk computer?
 
2014-01-14 01:02:15 PM
"Hey now! I only stole 900! Your paperwork is wrong!"
 
2014-01-14 01:09:46 PM

TheGreatGazoo: That's a stack of laptops 4 feet high, 10 feet wide, and 6 feet deep by my napkin calculations, not counting the power supplies.


That's only 4 pallets if stacked the right way.  Easily fits into the $19.95/day U-haul.
 
2014-01-14 01:27:33 PM

FrancoFile: DubtodaIll: I swear if we went through the entire unused inventory of the U.S. Federal and State Governments we could probably come out in the green.

Just sell some of the federally-owned land in the west.


No.
 
2014-01-14 01:57:24 PM

sethen320: Harry Freakstorm: I worked as a contractor for the Army. This unit had moved from Virginia and had never had a physical inventory when they moved. About two years after the move, this box shows up. Lots of old laptops and an XP tablet that had never been used. Old Harry thinks no one missed this stuff, so he stores the tablet and a Fujitsu Laptop in a special storage area. Just to see what happens.

So it's time for the unit to be absorbed by a higher command. They go through and come up with 20 missing laptops. So the users go through the safes and their desk drawers and lo and behold, eight laptops pop up. I go to my storage area and 'find' two more. Now, the ten remaining missing laptops have been signed for. Some of the people are still there. I sit back and wait for the Statement of Charges to come through. Nope. They just write off the ten laptops. Never existed. Can you top that?

Well, actually, I can. A few years prior, I worked for the Air Force. The unit rotated these Captains (promotable) in to the Green Zone for 90 days. When they came home, they put themselves in for the same award the previous Captain put themselves in for. Had a file saved in FormFlow. Just change the name and the dates and send it off.

This captain wanted a Dell laptop M6300 to watch movies on (cough cough porn). He did his 90 days, got on a plane, flew to Germany, then to New York and finally back to St. Louis. At St. Louis, he had called the newspapers and TV stations to report a war hero returning and a couple of them showed up. He walks up to the cameras, puts down his computer case, talks about being a hero and America and Freedoms for everyone and then walks off like a hero to his wife and kids. Only he didn't pick up the computer. So, I prepare a Statement of Charges for one lost computer. He's been in the GZ for 90 days, he's got the money to pay for it but he fights it. After a couple of weeks, the settle the SoC as "Lost in Combat".

Maybe I'm reading it wrong but from the way it was written I got the impression that you like thieving and have no problem being a douche to a guy who accidentally lost his laptop.

Sorry, maybe I'm wrong but that's how it sounds. Am I incorrect?


Worst I have seen for write off have been about 10 or so top of the line (at the time which was 2006_2007) Sun workstations, max ram, beefy CPU, RAID, dual video cards. They were about 20K a piece. The company that bought them got bought by another company and they never ended up being used.

Also have seen still in the box HP ProLiant DL380, 385 585 g5 servers just sit for years until they were disposed of.

Oil and Gas is where it is at for wasting cash.
 
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