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(Political Blind Spot)   Steubenville hacker faces 10 years in prison, Steubenville rapist is already out of juvenile detention   (politicalblindspot.com) divider line 196
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2014-01-14 08:46:18 AM
I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.
 
2014-01-14 09:07:09 AM

Lucky LaRue: I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.


You can do better than this to get attention, can't you?
 
2014-01-14 09:16:52 AM
I think if they really tried, they could have shoehorned more ads to break up the copy on that story. There actually were some spots where there were two or three paragraphs together!
 
2014-01-14 09:30:48 AM

Lucky LaRue: I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.


And if America is good at anything, it's creating criminals out of thin air.
 
2014-01-14 09:36:16 AM

Lucky LaRue: I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.


Well bless your heart.
 
2014-01-14 09:48:00 AM
The hacker was over 18 and the rapist was under 18.  18 is the magical line of responsibility for your actions.
 
2014-01-14 09:50:02 AM

EyeballKid: Lucky LaRue: I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.

You can do better than this to get attention, can't you?


Would he have been guilty if he hadn't found evidence?
 
2014-01-14 09:53:12 AM

James!: The hacker was over 18 and the rapist was under 18.  18 is the magical line of responsibility for your actions.


Except in states where they can involve juvenile transfer to move bad boys to big boy court.
 
2014-01-14 09:56:36 AM
I think something crawled up Lucky's ass last week and died and the petrifaction is causing his brain to hemorrhage.

Or something.

James!: The hacker was over 18 and the rapist was under 18.  18 is the magical line of responsibility for your actions.


Have you watched PBS' Brains on Trial with Alan Alda?
 
2014-01-14 10:03:34 AM

EyeballKid: Lucky LaRue: I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.

You can do better than this to get attention, can't you?


He really can't.
 
2014-01-14 10:04:36 AM

Nabb1: James!: The hacker was over 18 and the rapist was under 18.  18 is the magical line of responsibility for your actions.

Except in states where they can involve juvenile transfer to move bad boys to big boy court.


If that were possible here it probably should have been done.
 
2014-01-14 10:04:57 AM

CapeFearCadaver: I think something crawled up Lucky's ass last week and died and the petrifaction is causing his brain to hemorrhage.

Or something.

James!: The hacker was over 18 and the rapist was under 18.  18 is the magical line of responsibility for your actions.

Have you watched PBS' Brains on Trial with Alan Alda?


I have not, but I do like Alan Alda.
 
2014-01-14 10:07:44 AM

James!: I have not, but I do like Alan Alda.


It's about the levels of maturity in various brains and the processing that takes place with different people when assigning judgment or fault. Pretty fascinating, and your 'magical line' remark reminded me of it.
 
2014-01-14 10:19:15 AM
I'm wondering when the next hacker will go for the economic jugular and take out things like the towns finances or its retirement fund.

The number one rule with hackers is, don't piss off the ones you can't deal with.
 
2014-01-14 10:31:23 AM

Lucky LaRue: I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.


I see your point he broke the law.  I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished but damn 10 years?  That is a case of the punishment not fitting the crime.
 
2014-01-14 10:32:00 AM

doglover: EyeballKid: Lucky LaRue: I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.

You can do better than this to get attention, can't you?

He really can't.


You take things entirely too seriously.  How does this kid's fate - whether he walks away scott-free or goes to jail for the rest of his life - effect you in the slightest?
 
2014-01-14 10:33:56 AM

James!: The hacker was over 18 and the rapist was under 18.  18 is the magical line of responsibility for your actions.


Unless you're black.  Then you get tried as an adult because you're such a risk to society.
 
2014-01-14 10:34:54 AM

ReverendJasen: James!: The hacker was over 18 and the rapist was under 18.  18 is the magical line of responsibility for your actions.

Unless you're black.  Then you get tried as an adult because you're such a risk to society.


Irony.

I like it.
 
2014-01-14 10:35:14 AM

Lucky LaRue: doglover: EyeballKid: Lucky LaRue: I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.

You can do better than this to get attention, can't you?

He really can't.

You take things entirely too seriously.  How does this kid's fate - whether he walks away scott-free or goes to jail for the rest of his life - effect you in the slightest?


There are lots of things people have the ability to care about that don't necessarily affect them. It's called 'empathy'.
 
2014-01-14 10:35:35 AM

Lucky LaRue: You take things entirely too seriously.


Trolling is an art.

You have to practice.
 
2014-01-14 10:36:11 AM
Ah. Ma'Lik Richmond. Rapist from Steubenville, Ohio whom should have been tried as an adult.
 
2014-01-14 10:36:14 AM

Lucky LaRue: doglover: EyeballKid: Lucky LaRue: I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.

You can do better than this to get attention, can't you?

He really can't.

You take things entirely too seriously.  How does this kid's fate - whether he walks away scott-free or goes to jail for the rest of his life - effect you in the slightest?


Miscarriages of justice affect all of us.
 
2014-01-14 10:36:21 AM

html_007: Lucky LaRue: I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.

I see your point he broke the law.  I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished but damn 10 years?  That is a case of the punishment not fitting the crime.


Maybe, but I wonder if we (collectively) would say the same thing about the people that hacked Target and exposed the financial/personal information of 70 million people.  Do they deserve something less than 10 years?  The difference here is not in the crime, but in the outcome.  I am not particularly interested in having a body of laws that differentiates on outcome - if the judge chooses to do that, then fine, but let's keep the laws fair and balanced.
 
2014-01-14 10:36:33 AM

doglover: Lucky LaRue: You take things entirely too seriously.

Trolling is an art.

You have to practice.


He's only been trying his hand at it for about a week. Give him more time....
 
2014-01-14 10:36:43 AM
Fine, Society! Let's see you get back to the Moon when you've jailed all the smart kids and let the jocks rule over everything.
 
2014-01-14 10:37:05 AM

doglover: Lucky LaRue: You take things entirely too seriously.

Trolling is a art.

You have to practice.


Fixed that for you.
 
2014-01-14 10:37:29 AM

James!: The hacker was over 18 and the rapist was under 18.  18 is the magical line of responsibility for your actions.


Just like it's the magical line of having your rights respected.
 
2014-01-14 10:38:28 AM

CapeFearCadaver: doglover: Lucky LaRue: You take things entirely too seriously.

Trolling is an art.

You have to practice.

He's only been trying his hand at it for about a week. Give him more time....


Oh, I don't know.  I think I may have a natural aptitude for it.
 
2014-01-14 10:38:36 AM
We are Anonymous, we are....

We are Slightly Anonymous, we are legion.


Fixed for accuracy.
 
2014-01-14 10:38:38 AM

ReverendJasen: James!: The hacker was over 18 and the rapist was under 18.  18 is the magical line of responsibility for your actions.

Unless you're black.  Then you get tried as an adult because you're such a risk to society.


Unless you're a star football player.
 
2014-01-14 10:38:57 AM

Lucky LaRue: html_007: Lucky LaRue: I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.

I see your point he broke the law.  I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished but damn 10 years?  That is a case of the punishment not fitting the crime.

Maybe, but I wonder if we (collectively) would say the same thing about the people that hacked Target and exposed the financial/personal information of 70 million people.  Do they deserve something less than 10 years?  The difference here is not in the crime, but in the outcome.  I am not particularly interested in having a body of laws that differentiates on outcome - if the judge chooses to do that, then fine, but let's keep the laws fair and balanced.


There's a huge difference in hacking into texts and pictures and hacking into financial information
 
2014-01-14 10:39:42 AM

CapeFearCadaver: Have you watched PBS' Brains on Trial with Alan Alda?


I preferred "Alan Alda on Trial with PBS's Brains".
 
2014-01-14 10:40:06 AM

Nabb1: James!: The hacker was over 18 and the rapist was under 18.  18 is the magical line of responsibility for your actions.

Except in states where they can involve juvenile transfer to move bad boys to big boy court.


That can be done in Ohio, and often is...

Unless you're a hick town in Appalachia, and the offender in question is a football star. Then, the prosecutor sticks his fingers in his ears. If that had been in Columbus, that kid would have done hard time like he should have. Instead, they're slut shaming the victim and high giving the perp.
 
2014-01-14 10:40:38 AM
Remember:

If you steal evidence it can't be used in court.
 
2014-01-14 10:41:17 AM

James!: The hacker was over 18 and the rapist was under 18.  18 is the magical line of responsibility for your actions.


"You heartless dickwads want to throw children in jail!  CHILDREN!!!"
 
2014-01-14 10:41:29 AM

QueenMamaBee: Lucky LaRue: html_007: Lucky LaRue: I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.

I see your point he broke the law.  I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished but damn 10 years?  That is a case of the punishment not fitting the crime.

Maybe, but I wonder if we (collectively) would say the same thing about the people that hacked Target and exposed the financial/personal information of 70 million people.  Do they deserve something less than 10 years?  The difference here is not in the crime, but in the outcome.  I am not particularly interested in having a body of laws that differentiates on outcome - if the judge chooses to do that, then fine, but let's keep the laws fair and balanced.

There's a huge difference in hacking into texts and pictures and hacking into financial information



Or hacking into drunk vaginas.
 
2014-01-14 10:41:35 AM

alice_600: Remember:

If you steal evidence it can't be used in court.


Not really the case.

Unless the person is acting on behalf of the government when they illegally obtain the evidence, it can usually be used.
 
2014-01-14 10:42:14 AM

ChipNASA: doglover: Lucky LaRue: You take things entirely too seriously.

Trolling is a art.

You have to practice.

Fixed that for you.


Touche.
 
2014-01-14 10:42:27 AM
Hacker obviously doesn't play high school football.
 
2014-01-14 10:42:27 AM

QueenMamaBee: Lucky LaRue: html_007: Lucky LaRue: I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.

I see your point he broke the law.  I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished but damn 10 years?  That is a case of the punishment not fitting the crime.

Maybe, but I wonder if we (collectively) would say the same thing about the people that hacked Target and exposed the financial/personal information of 70 million people.  Do they deserve something less than 10 years?  The difference here is not in the crime, but in the outcome.  I am not particularly interested in having a body of laws that differentiates on outcome - if the judge chooses to do that, then fine, but let's keep the laws fair and balanced.

There's a huge difference in hacking into texts and pictures and hacking into financial information


I dunno - I can easily imagine situation where hacking texts and pictures could be just as damaging as hacking financial information.  And, again, I think the place for making the differentiation on what is a "serious" breach of the law and what isn't belongs in the courtroom, with the judge.  Our laws are already insanely complex; I can't imagine what they would look like if we tried to spell out that differentiation in the code itself.
 
2014-01-14 10:42:59 AM

Lucky LaRue: Oh, I don't know. I think I may have a natural aptitude for it.


Not really. You're too nice and level headed as an actual person. So it's coming off as what you think assholishness is as opposed to trolling and while it does get you some green arrows there's no back bone there.
 
2014-01-14 10:43:19 AM

ReverendJasen: James!: The hacker was over 18 and the rapist was under 18.  18 is the magical line of responsibility for your actions.

Unless you're black.  Then you get tried as an adult because you're such a risk to society.


static2.businessinsider.com
 
2014-01-14 10:43:58 AM

CapeFearCadaver: Not really. You're too nice and level headed as an actual person.


YOU TAKE THAT BACK!
 
2014-01-14 10:44:35 AM

James!: Alan Alda


Jew or "not a jew"?
 
2014-01-14 10:44:43 AM

The Muthaship: alice_600: Remember:

If you steal evidence it can't be used in court.

Not really the case.

Unless the person is acting on behalf of the government when they illegally obtain the evidence, it can usually be used.


Still illegally obtained and can't be used. That's where Snowden farked himself.
 
2014-01-14 10:45:12 AM

Lucky LaRue: html_007: Lucky LaRue: I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.

I see your point he broke the law.  I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished but damn 10 years?  That is a case of the punishment not fitting the crime.

Maybe, but I wonder if we (collectively) would say the same thing about the people that hacked Target and exposed the financial/personal information of 70 million people.  Do they deserve something less than 10 years?  The difference here is not in the crime, but in the outcome.  I am not particularly interested in having a body of laws that differentiates on outcome - if the judge chooses to do that, then fine, but let's keep the laws fair and balanced.


We have laws that differentiate between sentences if theft was over/under a certain value and then there's Grand Theft Auto just for car thieves. No one was making a huff about those laws.
 
2014-01-14 10:45:27 AM

Lucky LaRue: doglover: EyeballKid: Lucky LaRue: I don't see how anyone can be upset that a criminal is getting punished.

You can do better than this to get attention, can't you?

He really can't.

You take things entirely too seriously.  How does this kid's fate - whether he walks away scott-free or goes to jail for the rest of his life - effect you in the slightest?


No one's taking you seriously sweets.

"Hey you know that outrageous miscarriage of justice that every single person recognises is a failure of the system - I'm going to be a contrarian twat about it. My life is great"

That is how they are 'taking you'.
 
2014-01-14 10:46:14 AM
Steubenville hacker faces up to 10 years in prison, Steubenville rapist is already out of juvenile detention

FTFS.

Sentencing guidelines; how do they motherfarking work?
 
2014-01-14 10:48:31 AM

alice_600: Still illegally obtained and can't be used


See Mapp v. Ohio and Burdeau v. McDowell.
 
2014-01-14 10:49:08 AM

Lucky LaRue: CapeFearCadaver: Not really. You're too nice and level headed as an actual person.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!


NEVER! IT'S OUT THERE FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO SEE!

Ok, fine.... You're a poopy head. Better?
 
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