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2014-01-14 08:25:33 AM
They have this really neat way of announcing funding for programs like this that aren't in place, or that they have no intention of following through on.  Often more than once.

They shred science funding, muzzle scientists, focus on resource development and direct raw resource exports, rather than resource refinement and manufacturing development.  Then biatch about trade deficits.

And they bend over for the U.S. like a half inflated sex doll.  I'm looking at you Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act.

Never mind all the Omnibus bill shenanigans, lack of Senate Reform (Wasn't that a priority, Steve?), Senate scandals, and well known control freak Steven Harper claiming his office was acting without him or his knowledge...

Enough Bull Sh*t!
 
2014-01-14 08:42:04 AM

sno man: They have this really neat way of announcing funding for programs like this that aren't in place, or that they have no intention of following through on.  Often more than once.

They shred science funding, muzzle scientists, focus on resource development and direct raw resource exports, rather than resource refinement and manufacturing development.  Then biatch about trade deficits.

And they bend over for the U.S. like a half inflated sex doll.  I'm looking at you Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act.

Never mind all the Omnibus bill shenanigans, lack of Senate Reform (Wasn't that a priority, Steve?), Senate scandals, and well known control freak Steven Harper claiming his office was acting without him or his knowledge...

Enough Bull Sh*t!


Sounds like you're catching the infection that the US Congress has.  I am so sorry about that.
 
2014-01-14 08:49:50 AM
But the good news for Harper is he can now always say, "Yeah, well at least I didn't smoke crack."

Well...for now.
 
2014-01-14 08:57:20 AM
Their central bank will reward them smartly for their ingenuity.
 
2014-01-14 08:58:46 AM
spending $2.5 million  was the jobs program
 
2014-01-14 09:00:25 AM
Now that Sgt. Preston is gone the place is falling to pieces....who?..Sgt. Preston! Oh forget it ......I'm old....
 
2014-01-14 09:08:04 AM
Conservatives in Canada are no less scummy that conservatives in the U.S.
 
2014-01-14 09:09:58 AM

Muta: Conservatives in Canada are no less scummy that conservatives in the U.S.


But ours are made gluten free.
 
2014-01-14 09:14:43 AM

Diogenes: But the good news for Harper is he can now always say, "Yeah, well at least I didn't smoke crack."

Well...for now.


Can he say that? Have you actually heard him say that? If not... maybe there's a reason he hasn't said it!

/Just asking questions!
 
2014-01-14 09:15:56 AM

sno man: They have this really neat way of announcing funding for programs like this that aren't in place, or that they have no intention of following through on.  Often more than once.

They shred science funding, muzzle scientists, focus on resource development and direct raw resource exports, rather than resource refinement and manufacturing development.  Then biatch about trade deficits.

And they bend over for the U.S. like a half inflated sex doll.  I'm looking at you Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act.

Never mind all the Omnibus bill shenanigans, lack of Senate Reform (Wasn't that a priority, Steve?), Senate scandals, and well known control freak Steven Harper claiming his office was acting without him or his knowledge...

Enough Bull Sh*t!


When all is said and done, the Tories will have wasted way more than the Liberals did with Adscam, yet they get away with it (for now).

When 2015 rolls around Harper is going to jump from the good ship Tory and watch the complete implosion of the current Tories. I suspect we'll be back to the old PCs and the Reformers before the 2020 election.
 
2014-01-14 09:22:37 AM

Pope Larry II: sno man: They have this really neat way of announcing funding for programs like this that aren't in place, or that they have no intention of following through on.  Often more than once.

They shred science funding, muzzle scientists, focus on resource development and direct raw resource exports, rather than resource refinement and manufacturing development.  Then biatch about trade deficits.

And they bend over for the U.S. like a half inflated sex doll.  I'm looking at you Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act.

Never mind all the Omnibus bill shenanigans, lack of Senate Reform (Wasn't that a priority, Steve?), Senate scandals, and well known control freak Steven Harper claiming his office was acting without him or his knowledge...

Enough Bull Sh*t!

When all is said and done, the Tories will have wasted way more than the Liberals did with Adscam, yet they get away with it (for now).

When 2015 rolls around Harper is going to jump from the good ship Tory and watch the complete implosion of the current Tories. I suspect we'll be back to the old PCs and the Reformers before the 2020 election.


Not with campaign finance in the state that it's currently in.
 
2014-01-14 09:28:31 AM
This is even better than Chris Christie spending $4 mil on selling the idea that the Jersey shore was back to normal.
 
2014-01-14 09:31:30 AM

starsrift: Pope Larry II: sno man: They have this really neat way of announcing funding for programs like this that aren't in place, or that they have no intention of following through on.  Often more than once.

They shred science funding, muzzle scientists, focus on resource development and direct raw resource exports, rather than resource refinement and manufacturing development.  Then biatch about trade deficits.

And they bend over for the U.S. like a half inflated sex doll.  I'm looking at you Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act.

Never mind all the Omnibus bill shenanigans, lack of Senate Reform (Wasn't that a priority, Steve?), Senate scandals, and well known control freak Steven Harper claiming his office was acting without him or his knowledge...

Enough Bull Sh*t!

When all is said and done, the Tories will have wasted way more than the Liberals did with Adscam, yet they get away with it (for now).

When 2015 rolls around Harper is going to jump from the good ship Tory and watch the complete implosion of the current Tories. I suspect we'll be back to the old PCs and the Reformers before the 2020 election.

Not with campaign finance in the state that it's currently in.


I don't think it's going to be an external force that ends the Tories reign. Think of the Chretien/Martin feud and what it did to the Liberals, except there is no Martin waiting in the wings for the Tories.
 
2014-01-14 09:31:50 AM

starsrift: Pope Larry II: sno man: They have this really neat way of announcing funding for programs like this that aren't in place, or that they have no intention of following through on.  Often more than once.

They shred science funding, muzzle scientists, focus on resource development and direct raw resource exports, rather than resource refinement and manufacturing development.  Then biatch about trade deficits.

And they bend over for the U.S. like a half inflated sex doll.  I'm looking at you Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act.

Never mind all the Omnibus bill shenanigans, lack of Senate Reform (Wasn't that a priority, Steve?), Senate scandals, and well known control freak Steven Harper claiming his office was acting without him or his knowledge...

Enough Bull Sh*t!

When all is said and done, the Tories will have wasted way more than the Liberals did with Adscam, yet they get away with it (for now).

When 2015 rolls around Harper is going to jump from the good ship Tory and watch the complete implosion of the current Tories. I suspect we'll be back to the old PCs and the Reformers before the 2020 election.

Not with campaign finance in the state that it's currently in.


Del Mastro is in more hot water from 2008.
 
2014-01-14 09:32:48 AM
Nothing surprises me about this Administration.

It's all bluff, bluster and bullshiat.

Canada is enduring its very own Bush regime. I never thought we would be so stupid as to think the Conservatives wouldn't do this. Every time they get into power, they act like assholes and retards until we kick them out. Only for the next generation to forget their grand list of atrocities and invite them back into power.

We have a perfect memory when it comes to sports championships, why can't we remember political atrocities?
 
2014-01-14 09:34:46 AM

Ishkur: Nothing surprises me about this Administration.

It's all bluff, bluster and bullshiat.

Canada is enduring its very own Bush regime. I never thought we would be so stupid as to think the Conservatives wouldn't do this. Every time they get into power, they act like assholes and retards until we kick them out. Only for the next generation to forget their grand list of atrocities and invite them back into power.

We have a perfect memory when it comes to sports championships, why can't we remember political atrocities?


what do you expect? the left is dividing into two camps, and there's the bloc to content with.  it's basically Ontario vs the West.
 
2014-01-14 09:37:24 AM

HenryFnord: what do you expect? the left is dividing into two camps, and there's the bloc to content with. it's basically Ontario vs the West.


Well maybe we can give the N...the N... the N....D.....

I can't bring myself to say it.
 
2014-01-14 09:39:22 AM
CONTEND damnit, CONTEND WITH.
 
2014-01-14 09:45:18 AM

Ishkur: HenryFnord: what do you expect? the left is dividing into two camps, and there's the bloc to content with. it's basically Ontario vs the West.

Well maybe we can give the N...the N... the N....D.....

I can't bring myself to say it.


hehehe, well they aren't as left as they used to be.
 
2014-01-14 09:47:59 AM

HenryFnord:
what do you expect? the left is dividing into two camps, and there's the bloc to content with.  it's basically Ontario vs the West.


Ontario did hand him this current Majority, I think because they were pissed at the Provincial Liberals...

Unitl the Bloc comes up with a policy that is not "Separation and only Separation" they'll be in the wilderness for a while, at least Federally.
 
2014-01-14 09:51:18 AM

Pope Larry II: HenryFnord:
what do you expect? the left is dividing into two camps, and there's the bloc to content with.  it's basically Ontario vs the West.

Ontario did hand him this current Majority, I think because they were pissed at the Provincial Liberals...

Unitl the Bloc comes up with a policy that is not "Separation and only Separation" they'll be in the wilderness for a while, at least Federally.


True, but I remember the days before a federal separatist party and in those days Quebec mattered, federally. It's only since then that the power base of the cons has moved far west, and the liberals slightly west.
 
2014-01-14 09:54:49 AM

Pope Larry II: I don't think it's going to be an external force that ends the Tories reign. Think of the Chretien/Martin feud and what it did to the Liberals, except there is no Martin waiting in the wings for the Tories.


There are signs of a split federally, when Kenny spoke out against Ford.  There are decidedly two camps provincially as well and at least partially to do with support of or from the Fords.  I'm not sure Kenny's got enough support to stand up to Harper... Yet.
 
2014-01-14 10:01:41 AM

Muta: Conservatives in Canada are no less scummy that conservatives in the U.S.


and they wear top hats

www.eroticscribes.com
 
2014-01-14 10:08:44 AM

sno man: Pope Larry II: I don't think it's going to be an external force that ends the Tories reign. Think of the Chretien/Martin feud and what it did to the Liberals, except there is no Martin waiting in the wings for the Tories.

There are signs of a split federally, when Kenny spoke out against Ford.  There are decidedly two camps provincially as well and at least partially to do with support of or from the Fords.  I'm not sure Kenny's got enough support to stand up to Harper... Yet.


I think the split is closer to the Old PC vs Reformers (moderate right vs hard right) policies. Harper can only stiffle the hard right in his party for so long before they split into a federal version of the Wildrose party.
 
2014-01-14 10:17:51 AM
It's a shame that conservative governents seem to always follow this trait.

We are greedy people. We want political power to help further our own goals, which are mostly financial. We count on people being greedy to vote us in (1% less in taxes! Yeah!) or take a hard stance on something really stupid, like abortion or prostitution to get those old, scared, and "The world is white and evil, and scary!" to vote for us, and then our primary focus is our own greed once established.

I understand it. I completely understand the viewpoints. It's not even thoroughly unreasonable, even if it's very much sociopathic when taken to extremes (WINNING!). But it also does not lead to good government. Because while they may make choices that are beneficial (Maybe after some theatre), the moment their money (Or their friends) or the country's well being is at stake, guess which one takes the hit.

But at least, after paying attention to politics for a long time, though there may be corruption potential in all sides, and actual corruption everywhere, the only way to guarentee it is voting conservative. So in Canada, all sides have problems, but please don't vote Conservative. Or Bloc.

Thank God the completely retarded idea of "Government doesn't work" hasn't quite set foot in Canada yet. If you believe that, you should lose your voting rights. Government is simply an organisation, set to achieve goals. By saying that, you're implying Business doesn't work, Church doesn't work, Charity doesn't work. You are giving the politician permission to fail and sabotage on a grand scale to prove himself, and you right. You are basically voting for anarchy, and hoping it never bites you in the ass, and feeling smart about it.
 
2014-01-14 10:26:23 AM

HenryFnord: and there's the bloc to content with.


No.  They're done.
 
2014-01-14 10:31:49 AM

Flab: HenryFnord: and there's the bloc to content with.

No.  They're done.


I wouldn't count them out just yet.
 
2014-01-14 10:32:48 AM
Pope Larry II:

I think the split is closer to the Old PC vs Reformers (moderate right vs hard right) policies. Harper can only stiffle the hard right in his party for so long before they split into a federal version of the Wildrose party.

and it can't happen soon enough. Split the conservative vote and the left might stand a chance.
 
2014-01-14 11:01:46 AM

Pope Larry II: sno man: Pope Larry II: I don't think it's going to be an external force that ends the Tories reign. Think of the Chretien/Martin feud and what it did to the Liberals, except there is no Martin waiting in the wings for the Tories.

There are signs of a split federally, when Kenny spoke out against Ford.  There are decidedly two camps provincially as well and at least partially to do with support of or from the Fords.  I'm not sure Kenny's got enough support to stand up to Harper... Yet.

I think the split is closer to the Old PC vs Reformers (moderate right vs hard right) policies. Harper can only stiffle the hard right in his party for so long before they split into a federal version of the Wildrose party.


There is some of that element at the Provincial level too.  Like Harper, Hudak is trying to dance in the middle of more centrist and hard right elements.  Harper had had such total control of the party that there simply was no voice strong enough to show any real descent and the elements were closer together anyway.  The problem now for the CPC's is because of that, there is no right hand man to be the heir apparent.  Hudak has been trying to use the same playbook, but without ever having built the near universal support control within the OPC's Harper had with the CPC.
 
2014-01-14 11:01:47 AM
I wonder just what HarperGov needs to do to prompt a good old fashioned Canadian punishment vote.
 
2014-01-14 11:10:59 AM

costermonger: I wonder just what HarperGov needs to do to prompt a good old fashioned Canadian punishment vote.


If the Canadian people paid more attention we would be looking at an upcoming one.  Luckily though since the election is now next year, the CPC will have to more or less behave themselves from a legislative standpoint.  Yes, they've already done a fair amount of damage, but it could always be worse with these clowns.
 
2014-01-14 11:15:00 AM

HenryFnord: and it can't happen soon enough. Split the conservative vote and the left might stand a chance.


I think the Liberals stand to regain much of their former power in the next election. Whoever succeeds Harper is probably going to lose a lot of the 2011 votes in the east, and the NDP vote last time was filled to the brim with disaffected Liberal voters who saw Jack Layton as the best chance for an effective opposition.

Man, I still get sad when I think about what the Canadian political landscape lost that summer.
 
2014-01-14 11:21:46 AM

costermonger: HenryFnord: and it can't happen soon enough. Split the conservative vote and the left might stand a chance.

I think the Liberals stand to regain much of their former power in the next election. Whoever succeeds Harper is probably going to lose a lot of the 2011 votes in the east,


Not in the maritimes.  These fools would straight family federal party line even if the campaign promise was to sell them all into servitude.
 
2014-01-14 11:24:19 AM
I don't understand why people vote for the Conservatives in general, and Harper in particular.

So much corruption, overspending, and selling out our country and people for the benefit of foreign corporations.

I think about the only thing the Cons have done that I like is getting rid of the penny.
 
2014-01-14 11:32:34 AM

rustypouch: I think about the only thing the Cons have done that I like is getting rid of the penny.


I'm fine with the GST reduction (though that was before the majority).

HenryFnord: Not in the maritimes.  These fools would straight family federal party line even if the campaign promise was to sell them all into servitude.


They went red for the better part of the last decade, so I assumed they weren't all that attached to this flavour of the Conservative Party. Could well be wrong though.
 
2014-01-14 11:34:40 AM

rustypouch: I think about the only thing the Cons have done that I like is getting rid of the penny.


They're getting rid of checks soon, too.

All government checks will be direct deposit from then on.
 
2014-01-14 11:55:03 AM

rustypouch: I think about the only thing the Cons have done that I like is getting rid of the penny.


My god, your conservatives are still better than ours.
 
2014-01-14 12:27:12 PM

Pope Larry II: sno man: Pope Larry II: I don't think it's going to be an external force that ends the Tories reign. Think of the Chretien/Martin feud and what it did to the Liberals, except there is no Martin waiting in the wings for the Tories.

There are signs of a split federally, when Kenny spoke out against Ford.  There are decidedly two camps provincially as well and at least partially to do with support of or from the Fords.  I'm not sure Kenny's got enough support to stand up to Harper... Yet.

I think the split is closer to the Old PC vs Reformers (moderate right vs hard right) policies. Harper can only stiffle the hard right in his party for so long before they split into a federal version of the Wildrose party.


I agree.  I have heard that Kenny is the heir apparent to Harper and is a staunch Reform conservative.  Peter MacKay is likely to want to lead and he is an easterner and a born and bred PC Tory.  I am not sure how well MacKay gets along with Harper.  If you recall, the first person to go off script was MacKay when he was Minister of Defence and told the PMO that aircraft used by the Government but owned by the Air Force would not be repainted from the grayish camo to bright colors because they fly into war zones.  I can't imagine Harper was too pleased to be told "no" and that the refusal became national news. I could see a split on Reform/PC lines if Harper does not get a majority in the next election but refuses to resign or if the far right get too much say in the platform of the party.

The Harper government has proven to be terrible.  Its stance on law and order, the environment, the constant spin and outright lies, corruption is all disgusting.  It conduct politics by the Karl Rove playbook.  In my opinion the only positives have been getting rid of the long gun registry and perhaps ditching the penny
 
2014-01-14 12:38:36 PM
America is the proof of concept for shiatbag scumbaggery. Now its here, rolling along at 110%.
 
2014-01-14 12:43:58 PM

miscreant: Diogenes: But the good news for Harper is he can now always say, "Yeah, well at least I didn't smoke crack."

Well...for now.

Can he say that? Have you actually heard him say that? If not... maybe there's a reason he hasn't said it!

/Just asking questions!


You didn't ask him the right question.
 
2014-01-14 12:45:35 PM

HenryFnord: Muta: Conservatives in Canada are no less scummy that conservatives in the U.S.

But ours are made gluten free.


With extra maple syrup and beaver tails
 
2014-01-14 12:55:43 PM

rattchett: If you recall, the first person to go off script was MacKay when he was Minister of Defence and told the PMO that aircraft used by the Government but owned by the Air Force would not be repainted from the grayish camo to bright colors because they fly into war zones.  I can't imagine Harper was too pleased to be told "no" and that the refusal became national news.


And yet, here it is in it's lovely Conservative Party of Canada colours:

www.ojpictures.de
 
2014-01-14 01:35:56 PM

HenryFnord: Flab: HenryFnord: and there's the bloc to content with.

No.  They're done.

I wouldn't count them out just yet.


They need to find a new leader that will electrify the electorate, and there's no one to fill Duceppe's shoes, and with the two toher opposition parties being led by Quebeckers, and the NDP badly needing Quebec to keep its relevance, they can't even use the "who will defend Quebec's interests?" line.

Besides, Quebec independentists are too busy bickering about hijabs and ham sanwiches at the moment, to care about what happens in Ottawa.
 
2014-01-14 02:05:37 PM
In America, it would have been $2.5 billion.
 
2014-01-14 03:44:43 PM

RockofAges: HenryFnord: costermonger: HenryFnord: and it can't happen soon enough. Split the conservative vote and the left might stand a chance.

I think the Liberals stand to regain much of their former power in the next election. Whoever succeeds Harper is probably going to lose a lot of the 2011 votes in the east,

Not in the maritimes.  These fools would straight family federal party line even if the campaign promise was to sell them all into servitude.

LOL, the only place Harper polls worse than Quebec is in the Atlantic region (particularly Newfoundland). Swing and a miss.


Yeah his employment insurance reform is really popular (not!) in the Atlantic region.
 
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