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(Aviation Herald)   US: Southwest lands at the wrong airport in Missouri. Tanzania: Ethiopian Airlines drops a 767 into an airport that mostly serves little propeller planes and has a runway half the needed length - and gets it out again. With pictures and video   (avherald.com) divider line 46
    More: Unlikely, Missouri, Ethiopian B763, Ethiopian Airlines, Dar es Salaam, Civil Aviation Authority, Addis Ababa, Kilimanjaro, Mombasa  
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2014-01-14 08:02:50 AM
the "good" part of the video is from 1:00-1:20.  The rest is engine noise.
 
2014-01-14 08:05:52 AM
The runway was ridiculously short but insanely wide.
 
2014-01-14 08:06:05 AM
I must warn you the video is 240p hell.
 
2014-01-14 08:07:19 AM
Props to the captain and crew
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2014-01-14 08:11:51 AM
This is why pilots flying scrap in remote areas are insane. It's always amazing to see what a pilot can do when he doesn't give a fark about the airframe's safe limits, and has no corporate cultural consequences for his antics.

Unless he really farks up, then it's horrible.
 
2014-01-14 08:12:21 AM
Planes don't need a lot of runway to take off if:

a) They are empty
b) You ignore Accelerate Stop Distance safety margins
c) The clearway is flat and unobstructed

I've seen DC-10s depart off 4000 ft strips.
 
2014-01-14 08:13:32 AM
What's with all the planes landing at the wrong airport, lately? Anonymous hack the nav systems or something?
 
2014-01-14 08:16:40 AM
In still other news, Ethiopia has an airline.
 
2014-01-14 08:16:44 AM
the crew was advised the Cessna would soon be removed from the runway

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2014-01-14 08:18:59 AM
Applause for those in the cockpit.
 
2014-01-14 08:27:42 AM
After turning onto the grass they were stuck on the aircraft for about 3.5 hours until stairs arrived from Kilimanjaro Airport

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Late because of hop-ons?
 
2014-01-14 08:31:15 AM

minuslars: I must warn you the video is 240p hell.


It's Africa.  We're lucky somebody was willing to spend the $50 it probably cost to get the low-rez video out of the third world.  Nothing like crossing a border and getting a text from your carrier saying, "Global Data Plan in Turzmukistan is $5.12/MB."
 
2014-01-14 08:32:38 AM

Skunkwolf: This is why pilots flying scrap in remote areas are insane. It's always amazing to see what a pilot can do when he doesn't give a fark about the airframe's safe limits, and has no corporate cultural consequences for his antics.

Unless he really farks up, then it's horrible.


Pretty much. Primitive conditions are a filter, not an enhancer. The primitives that survive have nearly superhuman abilities, but they would have had those anyway... they just have fewer fellow primitives with less impressive skills, because the lessers were killed off.

/but don't you dare say that this isn't the ideal
//unless you're not young and beautiful, then you're only supporting paleo living because you want to butcher the poors
 
2014-01-14 08:35:19 AM

TheGogmagog: Props to the captain and crew


Nice.
 
2014-01-14 08:39:16 AM
their decision to fly was up in the air.
 
2014-01-14 08:41:28 AM
How do you recognize an Ethiopian pilot?

He's the guy with the TAG Heuer chronogragh around his waist.
 
2014-01-14 08:42:24 AM

tiiger: Planes don't need a lot of runway to take off if:

a) They are empty
b) You ignore Accelerate Stop Distance safety margins
c) The clearway is flat and unobstructed

I've seen DC-10s depart off 4000 ft strips.


d) They use full power. Most flights use reduced thrust settings so there is a lot more power available than you'd think.
 
2014-01-14 08:43:39 AM

jtown: It's Africa.  We're lucky somebody was willing to spend the $50 it probably cost to get the low-rez video out of the third world.  Nothing like crossing a border and getting a text from your carrier saying, "Global Data Plan in Turzmukistan is $5.12/MB."


Because USB cables don't exist in the third world, and nor do USB thumb drives.

FTFA:The crew finally called in declaring emergency and reporting that they no longer had sufficient fuel to reach Nairobi, Dar es Salaam or Mombasa (editorial remark: with required minimum fuel reserve remaining intact).

That's some fine piloting there, Captain Lou. You're supposed to pay attention to fuel remaining, and divert to alternate before you have insufficient fuel.
 
2014-01-14 08:49:59 AM
 
2014-01-14 08:58:43 AM
And it looks like Southwest flew their 737 out of the wrong Branson airport, too.
 
2014-01-14 08:58:50 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: Still the reigning champion.


"We have Smirnoff."
 
2014-01-14 09:00:47 AM
There's 'limits' (set by the manufacturer) that are safe to operate the plane within. Then there's everything you do as a pilot that you try. Technically speaking, at that point, you're a test pilot in an experiment.

/have landed in higher than 'acceptable' crosswinds
//I don't take risks unless the alternative is worse
 
2014-01-14 09:22:21 AM
Best part for me was that I now have a funny (to me) sounding word that I'm gonna play with all day: Kaduguda
 
2014-01-14 09:26:18 AM
How hard is it to push a Cessna off a runway?
 
2014-01-14 09:41:43 AM
This happened in Kansas last month. A big cargo plane (one that carries the Dreamliner fuselage inside its own fuselage) landed at a tiny regional airport that was about 8 miles from the air base it was supposed to land at. It took off in heavy cloud cover. I remember watching the video stream.
 
2014-01-14 09:45:33 AM
The landing was epic, the take-off merely fun for the pilots.

Empty with a "get out of consequences free card" means they can treat the airframe like you treat a rental car on an on-ramp.
 
2014-01-14 10:00:24 AM

Rapmaster2000: How hard is it to push a Cessna off a runway?


depends what you are pushing it with.
 
2014-01-14 10:00:32 AM
Empty with a "get out of consequences free card" means they can treat the airframe like you they treat your Mom a rental car on a drunken Saturday night an on-ramp.


FIFY
 
2014-01-14 10:29:40 AM
Hats off to Boeing on building planes to unfark stupid pilots landing at wrong airports for three months running.

Now if it were Airbus...we would probably get more of  this.
 
2014-01-14 11:11:13 AM

Skunkwolf: This is why pilots flying scrap in remote areas are insane. It's always amazing to see what a pilot can do when he doesn't give a fark about the airframe's safe limits, and has no corporate cultural consequences for his antics.

Unless he really farks up, then it's horrible.


Reading the article, it said the minimum landing distance for that plane at maximum weight was 1720 (about, not going to reread). But without the fuel and crap, I gather it wasn't at maximum weight, so 1600m was actually within limits (well, obviously).

Maybe the ruined the brakes, tires. Lying to the passengers about which airport they were at over the intercom was also a nice touch (read the comments), because, what the hell would that achieve. They thought they could cover this up?


http://www.airlinemeals.net/browse.php?id=2033&start=1&x=1

Good food too, it seems.


Also AFAIK Air Ethiopia is cleared to land inside the EU. So OK service record as well.
 
2014-01-14 11:12:31 AM

tiiger: Planes don't need a lot of runway to take off if:

a) They are empty
b) You ignore Accelerate Stop Distance safety margins
c) The clearway is flat and unobstructed

I've seen DC-10s depart off 4000 ft strips.


d) if you don't care the runway built for lighter loads is useable after the weight of the aircraft cuts furrows in it.
 
2014-01-14 11:13:26 AM

Rapmaster2000: How hard is it to push a Cessna off a runway?


The pushing the Cessna off the runway union would have gone on strike if anyone else had done it.
 
2014-01-14 11:26:42 AM
Isn't Ethiopian Airlines known for being early adopters of the newest aviation technology or something like that?
 
2014-01-14 11:51:38 AM
Most amusing comment from avherald's comments:

Video ?
By (anonymous) on Saturday, Dec 21st 2013 03:13Z

Why does every video look like it's been filmed with a goddam potato !?

I have never seen a video taken by a potato, but the quality can't be that good.
 
2014-01-14 12:20:39 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Still the reigning champion.


"I'm running out of film, well I've got enough to film the crash"
 
2014-01-14 12:32:26 PM
little propeller planes lol
 
2014-01-14 12:39:40 PM

spawn73: Skunkwolf: This is why pilots flying scrap in remote areas are insane. It's always amazing to see what a pilot can do when he doesn't give a fark about the airframe's safe limits, and has no corporate cultural consequences for his antics.

Unless he really farks up, then it's horrible.

Reading the article, it said the minimum landing distance for that plane at maximum weight was 1720 (about, not going to reread). But without the fuel and crap, I gather it wasn't at maximum weight, so 1600m was actually within limits (well, obviously).

Maybe the ruined the brakes, tires. Lying to the passengers about which airport they were at over the intercom was also a nice touch (read the comments), because, what the hell would that achieve. They thought they could cover this up?


http://www.airlinemeals.net/browse.php?id=2033&start=1&x=1

Good food too, it seems.


Also AFAIK Air Ethiopia is cleared to land inside the EU. So OK service record as well.


I know Ethiopian flies into Dulles which makes sense because pretty much every employee at Dulles is Ethiopian.
 
2014-01-14 01:40:34 PM

minuslars: I must warn you the video is 240p hell.


I'll take 12p as long as they don't hold the camera sideways.


Also, the story seems odd.  Wouldn't a 767 stuck in the dirt like that basically need a crane or something to get out?  Wouldn't the impact seriously damage the gear?
 
2014-01-14 02:13:52 PM

IRQ12: minuslars: I must warn you the video is 240p hell.

I'll take 12p as long as they don't hold the camera sideways.


Also, the story seems odd.  Wouldn't a 767 stuck in the dirt like that basically need a crane or something to get out?  Wouldn't the impact seriously damage the gear?


I was thinking that if you slam max brakes and stuff, your gear is farked anyway.
 
2014-01-14 02:41:33 PM
 
2014-01-14 03:47:41 PM

nucular bum: Isn't Ethiopian Airlines known for being early adopters of the newest aviation technology or something like that?


I think the 787 Boeing just fiber-patched in London or somewhere, after a battery fire in the emergency beacon, might have been Ethiopian's...
 
2014-01-14 03:54:31 PM

Fubegra: Dancin_In_Anson: Still the reigning champion.

"We have Smirnoff."


I need to work that into more of my own quips
 
2014-01-14 05:01:18 PM
edmo:

d) They use full power. Most flights use reduced thrust settings so there is a lot more power available than you'd think.

This. Commercial flights virtually never use full power, due to increased fuel consumption and passengers being frightened by the sheer AWESOME of being pushed back into the seats.
 
2014-01-14 08:59:06 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Still the reigning champion.



That was crazy.  I had not seen that one before.  Thanks.


That pilot has the biggest ones of them all.
 
2014-01-14 11:52:05 PM
did not explain why the aircraft diverted to Arusha (27nm from Kilimanjaro Airport)

Crap, a whole 27 nanometers?  It's not even a hair's breadth away!  (In fact, about 1/40th as much.)
 
2014-01-15 02:02:35 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: In still other news, Ethiopia has an airline.


Not only that, but they're pretty badass.  Imagine the Miracle on the Hudson, but with hijackers instead of geese.
 
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