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2014-01-14 06:35:32 AM

wildcardjack: Isn't the dispersal of worldly possessions one of the warning signs of suicide?


Not necessarily, seems to be more along the lines of Matthew 19:21. Pope Francis still has a long way to go to have followed Jesus' advice.
 
2014-01-14 06:37:34 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: DrBenway: Can we just move on now to the Pope Francis/Jennifer Lawrence fan fiction and get it over with?


Don't worry. As soon as he starts making strong anti-abortion speeches, the love for him will fade fast amongst the Fark liberals.


But he won't. He's the pop single Pope. Designed to appeal to the broadest audience he can. The pat on the back, you're a-ok Pope. He's all about the ratings. Which is why he isn't considered Pope by many a true Catholic. In a business sense, he was a smart choice.
 
2014-01-14 06:56:28 AM

highwayrun: I sound fat: They are estimating 20k for a sales price? You would figure the "custom built for and owned by the pope" thing would bring at least 4 times that

To a very wealthy, very Catholic motorcycle enthusiast, maybe.


Sooo...pretty much anyone in Italy, then.
 
2014-01-14 06:57:26 AM

robohobo: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: DrBenway: Can we just move on now to the Pope Francis/Jennifer Lawrence fan fiction and get it over with?


Don't worry. As soon as he starts making strong anti-abortion speeches, the love for him will fade fast amongst the Fark liberals.

But he won't. He's the pop single Pope. Designed to appeal to the broadest audience he can. The pat on the back, you're a-ok Pope. He's all about the ratings. Which is why he isn't considered Pope by many a true Catholic. In a business sense, he was a smart choice.


If by "True catholic" you mean people that have been biatching about how he asks folks to love their neighbor and not display wealth egregiously (you know, like THE BIBLE SAYS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO), then sure.

/Maybe 'True Catholics' just suck at Christianity?
 
2014-01-14 07:08:25 AM

Warchild: Coolest. Pope. Evar.


The most interesting Pope in the world...

/Stay righteous brothers...
 
2014-01-14 07:08:33 AM

robohobo: But he won't.


You mean like the how he spoke out this weekend about how he finds abortion horrid and the like? How he attributes it to a 'culture of waste'.

You cynics are silly folk, making judgements based on feelings instead of logic.

Ohyou.jpeg.
 
2014-01-14 07:14:43 AM

Coming on a Bicycle: "Good. It's at least kind of a start.

... not that this pope isn't conceivably a nice guy, but the only thing he's gotten props for that actually means anything or represents any kind of change in the standard procedure so far is firing a bunch of Cardinals and Bishops for being dicks... if he replaces them with actual reasonable people, I may actually but into the whole "no, this one's a good person for reals" hype.

Until then, all this sucking of his dick for unremarkable things is basically the greatest modern example of "protesting too much"."

Somehow I think you will never be satisfied.


Somehow, I don't think you will ever get the hang of the quote button if you haven't mastered it by now...
 
2014-01-14 07:15:19 AM

nulluspixiusdemonica: Oh look... another mindless pope-PR post...

It's almost as if it were... intentional....


you sound concerned.
 
2014-01-14 07:23:36 AM

Capo Del Bandito: robohobo: But he won't.

You mean like the how he spoke out this weekend about how he finds abortion horrid and the like? How he attributes it to a 'culture of waste'.

You cynics are silly folk, making judgements based on feelings instead of logic.

Ohyou.jpeg.


Rorschach pope?

Sometimes a pope is just a pope.

/but in this case I think you're right.
 
2014-01-14 07:37:02 AM
It's all show. Yeah, but if he REALLY wanted to do something, he'd take expensive gifts and sell them off to help the poor....

*clicks link*

...he'd allow abortions, birth control, women priests, gay marriage, and reanimate all those dead priests who abused little boys back in the Sixties. Otherwise, it's all show.
 
2014-01-14 07:42:19 AM

Elegy: Capo Del Bandito: robohobo: But he won't.

You mean like the how he spoke out this weekend about how he finds abortion horrid and the like? How he attributes it to a 'culture of waste'.

You cynics are silly folk, making judgements based on feelings instead of logic.

Ohyou.jpeg.

Rorschach pope?

Sometimes a pope is just a pope.

/but in this case I think you're right.


It seems quite probable that this guy who lived and worked in shiatty poor areas of a developed country saw that poor people suffer and it's *possible* that it had an effect on him. It doesn't hurt that he's a Jesuit, and if the naysayers knew anything about that particular group they'd probably be a bit more understanding on why it's not that shocking to see a Jesuit Pope be different and mean it.

So you have a Jesuit guy who worked and lived among the poor, possibly had a bit of an impact on his world view and now he's focusing on 'Take care of the poor dammit!".

I'd say it'd be more believable as a PR move if it were another European and didn't say things that are slightly different from the last Pope as well as some action insofar as dealing with current problems as they arise in the church.

But with Frankie I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now simply because it is a possibility.
 
2014-01-14 08:02:55 AM
$20K sounds stupid low.
 
2014-01-14 08:13:20 AM
Winstonfromghostbusters.jpg

I LOVE THIS POPE!
 
2014-01-14 08:21:21 AM

Weatherkiss: It's going to be a sad day when the catholic faithful decide to assassinate*/martyr** him.

*Assassinate if a more 'traditional' catholic pope replaces him and reinstitutes child rape, slut-shaming, and greed as catholic virtues.

**Martyr if someone who holds his beliefs takes his place, unwilling to be a bedwetting coward for the sake of pushing a more Christ-like agenda.


ITT, someone who got all his info on the Catholic Church from Richard Dawkins.
 
2014-01-14 08:25:57 AM
I bet he wouldn't have parted with a Triumph.  ;-)

Good pope. Nice dude.
 
2014-01-14 08:32:32 AM

Markoff_Cheney: this dude almost makes me want to take up the faith.
ALMOST.
farking solid guy though.  keep on keepin on pope.


i am catholic, and i guess i am supposed to convert you all ("join our club, we have free crackers and wine")... but the pope being cool? that is a turrible reason to join the faith imo.
 
2014-01-14 08:37:07 AM

phenn: I bet he wouldn't have parted with a Triumph.  ;-)

Good pope. Nice dude.


He parted with the Harley because even God can't make those things reliable.
 
2014-01-14 08:49:38 AM

berylman: It was only a matter of time until Benedict popeage auctions of his pea yellow El Camino SS; That is when you know it is truly over.


When I think of Benedict, I think of other SS memorabilia.
 
2014-01-14 08:52:21 AM

Jim_Callahan: ... not that this pope isn't conceivably a nice guy, but the only thing he's gotten props for that actually means anything or represents any kind of change in the standard procedure so far is firing a bunch of Cardinals and Bishops for being dicks... if he replaces them with actual reasonable people, I may actually but into the whole "no, this one's a good person for reals" hype.

Until then, all this sucking of his dick for unremarkable things is basically the greatest modern example of "protesting too much".


How about pursuing criminal charges for sexual abuse? Yeah? You DO know he's doing that, right?
 
2014-01-14 08:54:01 AM
robohobo:But he won't. He's the pop single Pope. Designed to appeal to the broadest audience he can. The pat on the back, you're a-ok Pope. He's all about the ratings. Which is why he isn't considered Pope by many a true Catholic. In a business sense, he was a smart choice.

I haven't heard a bad word about him from even diehard Catholics who don't drink and go to church every day. I'm sure you could find someone who hates him but he seems like a big success with the overwhelming majority of even Catholics who are normally assholes.
 
2014-01-14 08:54:41 AM
Reading a lot "I am lapsed ex-Catholic but I really love this Pope", and "I am no longer ashamed growing up Catholic", etc.,etc.,etc.
After reading this, would any lapsed Catholic Farkers decide to go to confession and / or mass this week?
 
2014-01-14 09:01:24 AM

SordidEuphemism: Jim_Callahan: ... not that this pope isn't conceivably a nice guy, but the only thing he's gotten props for that actually means anything or represents any kind of change in the standard procedure so far is firing a bunch of Cardinals and Bishops for being dicks... if he replaces them with actual reasonable people, I may actually but into the whole "no, this one's a good person for reals" hype.

Until then, all this sucking of his dick for unremarkable things is basically the greatest modern example of "protesting too much".

How about pursuing criminal charges for sexual abuse? Yeah? You DO know he's doing that, right?


Just to make it easy to find:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/vatican-moves-to-try-poli sh -archbishop-josef-wesolowski-for-abuse/story-fnb64oi6-1226800961540
 
2014-01-14 09:03:53 AM

sage254: Reading a lot "I am lapsed ex-Catholic but I really love this Pope", and "I am no longer ashamed growing up Catholic", etc.,etc.,etc.
After reading this, would any lapsed Catholic Farkers decide to go to confession and / or mass this week?


There was a farker in another Frankie thread that said his family stopped going to Episcopalian church and back to Mass. Does that count?
 
2014-01-14 09:10:48 AM

amindtat: phenn: I bet he wouldn't have parted with a Triumph.  ;-)

Good pope. Nice dude.

He parted with the Harley because even God can't make those things reliable.


I think he's hoping for something more 'papal'... maybe a boss hoss?

www.bosshossmiami.com
 
2014-01-14 09:13:03 AM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: I haven't heard a bad word about him from even diehard Catholics who don't drink and go to church every day. I'm sure you could find someone who hates him but he seems like a big success with the overwhelming majority of even Catholics who are normally assholes.


Well that's good to hear! I don't know many Catholics (or at least those who really give a shiat about some figurehead in Rome).
This is how I felt about Obama being elected; at first I was like, this cannot end well.  Someone's gonna get all hatey and shiat's gonna go back to being the same as before.  But hell, maybe there is hope in this world.
Neither of these two people can solve all of the problems of what they lead, but they are trying.  And they're being cool whilst doing so.
 
2014-01-14 09:25:11 AM

Jim_Callahan: Good.  It's at least kind of a start.

... not that this pope isn't  conceivably a nice guy, but the only thing he's gotten props for that  actually means anything or represents any kind of change in the standard procedure so far is firing a bunch of Cardinals and Bishops for being dicks... if he replaces them with actual reasonable people, I may actually but into the whole "no, this one's a good person for reals" hype.

Until then, all this sucking of his dick for unremarkable things is basically the greatest modern example of "protesting too much".


He has a whole industry/organizational structure to overcome. Right now it might appear that he is doing the religious equivalence of when GE-owned NBC showed they were being environmentally friendly by changing the logos to green on Earth Day and dimming studio lights on MSNBC shows. But these baby steps are a beginning. He can't just change the culture of the Church overnight. If he moves too fast he'd either be canonized by his former detractors or cannonized by his former supporters. Every move he makes today towards a more inclusive, less offensive Church will make it more difficult for the next guy to backtrack.
 
2014-01-14 09:25:16 AM

SordidEuphemism: SordidEuphemism: Jim_Callahan: ... not that this pope isn't conceivably a nice guy, but the only thing he's gotten props for that actually means anything or represents any kind of change in the standard procedure so far is firing a bunch of Cardinals and Bishops for being dicks... if he replaces them with actual reasonable people, I may actually but into the whole "no, this one's a good person for reals" hype.

Until then, all this sucking of his dick for unremarkable things is basically the greatest modern example of "protesting too much".

How about pursuing criminal charges for sexual abuse? Yeah? You DO know he's doing that, right?

Just to make it easy to find:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/vatican-moves-to-try-poli sh -archbishop-josef-wesolowski-for-abuse/story-fnb64oi6-1226800961540


Fraggin awesome. It will never be enough for the haters, but this non-Catholic salutes you, Frankie da Pope.
 
2014-01-14 09:31:00 AM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: robohobo:But he won't. He's the pop single Pope. Designed to appeal to the broadest audience he can. The pat on the back, you're a-ok Pope. He's all about the ratings. Which is why he isn't considered Pope by many a true Catholic. In a business sense, he was a smart choice.

I haven't heard a bad word about him from even diehard Catholics who don't drink and go to church every day. I'm sure you could find someone who hates him but he seems like a big success with the overwhelming majority of even Catholics who are normally assholes.


he has been pretty much an ideal pope for us california catholics on the left coast... latin american, a lot of social justice stuff, less dogmatic but not contrary about sanctity of life & issues like that.
 
2014-01-14 09:31:51 AM

amindtat: phenn: I bet he wouldn't have parted with a Triumph.  ;-)

Good pope. Nice dude.

He parted with the Harley because even God can't make those things reliable.


Amen, my brother/sister.
 
2014-01-14 09:42:48 AM

phenn: I bet he wouldn't have parted with a Triumph.  ;-)

Good pope. Nice dude.


I'm parting with mine, only because my infant son doesn't like hanging on the back!
 
2014-01-14 09:46:22 AM

Capo Del Bandito: It seems quite probable that this guy who lived and worked in shiatty poor areas of a developed country saw that poor people suffer and it's *possible* that it had an effect on him. It doesn't hurt that he's a Jesuit, and if the naysayers knew anything about that particular group they'd probably be a bit more understanding on why it's not that shocking to see a Jesuit Pope be different and mean it.

So you have a Jesuit guy who worked and lived among the poor, possibly had a bit of an impact on his world view and now he's focusing on 'Take care of the poor dammit!".

I'd say it'd be more believable as a PR move if it were another European and didn't say things that are slightly different from the last Pope as well as some action insofar as dealing with current problems as they arise in the church.

But with Frankie I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now simply because it is a possibility.


Came here to say pretty much this. Jesuits are a special breed. The teachings of Jesus are really big for them. The whole 'humble, help the poor, love everyone' thing is kinda their thing.
 
2014-01-14 09:49:41 AM

DrBenway: Can we just move on now to the Pope Francis/Jennifer Lawrence fan fiction and get it over with?


i44.tinypic.com
 
2014-01-14 09:50:29 AM
The Jesuits are the closest thing to Warrior Monks the Catholics have. "Give. Love. Forgive. Oh, and kick that guy, right there, in the jimmy."
 
2014-01-14 09:58:47 AM

tgambitg: Came here to say pretty much this. Jesuits are a special breed. The teachings of Jesus are really big for them. The whole 'humble, help the poor, love everyone' thing is kinda their thing.


They also tend to reaaaalllyyy irritate the other wings of the catholic church by reminding them of stuff like "Well, technically, the ban on priests marrying has no basis in the bible, but actually came about as a solution to a land-rights issue the church was experiencing in the..."

Which tends to make the rest of the church go "AAUUGHGHH SHUT UP SHUT UPPPP".

/I'm sorta amazed they elected one pope.
//Not Catholic, but went to a jesuit undergrad.
///GO XAVIER
 
2014-01-14 10:05:34 AM

I sound fat: They are estimating 20k for a sales price? You would figure the "custom built for and owned by the pope" thing would bring at least 4 times that


Yeah, that was my thought as well.  Headline on TFA says chopper.  That isn't a chopped bike.
 
2014-01-14 10:07:25 AM

highwayrun: I sound fat: They are estimating 20k for a sales price? You would figure the "custom built for and owned by the pope" thing would bring at least 4 times that

To a very wealthy, very Catholic motorcycle enthusiast, maybe.


Like Tom Monaghan perhaps.
 
2014-01-14 10:18:55 AM

I sound fat: They are estimating 20k for a sales price? You would figure the "custom built for and owned by the pope" thing would bring at least 4 times that


Seriously, who wouldn't want to say they ride the pope's Harley?
 
2014-01-14 10:50:09 AM

Let's get FARKers to buy it for Joe Biden!

 
2014-01-14 10:55:34 AM
Everyone missed the best line of TFA:

"Bonhams estimated the holy hog could fetch between 12,000 and 15,000 euros, or about $16,000 to $20,000. "
 
2014-01-14 10:59:57 AM

nekom: I sound fat: They are estimating 20k for a sales price? You would figure the "custom built for and owned by the pope" thing would bring at least 4 times that

Seriously, who wouldn't want to say they ride the pope's Harley?


Doesn't that cause further problems?

"Hey, Jimmy. How about after mass you come back to the rectory and you can ride on the 'Pope's Harley'?"
 
2014-01-14 11:36:32 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: you sound concerned.


ITT: Frivolous, cheap, publicity stunts are deep, meaningful, events and not completely farcical, empty and disingenuous...

Also, unrepentant marketing victims...
 
2014-01-14 11:38:59 AM
GO! POPE! GO!

/but not on the motorcycle anymore.
 
2014-01-14 11:42:06 AM
So, sell a custom $30,000 bike for charity, keep the gold?  Wow, how christian of you, pontiff.
 
2014-01-14 11:56:45 AM

Alphakronik: So, sell a custom $30,000 bike for charity, keep the gold?  Wow, how christian of you, pontiff.


Did you RTFA?

The money raised will go toward Catholic charity Caritas Roma's renovations of a hostel and soup kitchen in Rome.

Look, I know a lot of farkers are blatantly anti-catholic/religion/God/what have you, but don't be so quick to judgement.
 danceswithfat.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-14 12:27:48 PM

nulluspixiusdemonica: TT: Frivolous, cheap, publicity stunts are deep, meaningful, events and not completely farcical, empty and disingenuous...

Also, unrepentant marketing victims...


Citation needed, otherwise it's all your point of view without any real proof, hence, an assumption and invalid.
 
2014-01-14 12:37:07 PM

robohobo: Pre-Vatican II churches are the only true Catholic churches. The Second Vatican Council has be an outright disaster.


Archbishop Lefebvre?  I thought you were dead.

/obscure?  google SSPX
 
2014-01-14 12:44:07 PM

Capo Del Bandito:  Citation needed, otherwise it's all your point of view without any real proof, hence, an assumption and invalid.


As valid and proofed as magical sky faeries :)
 
2014-01-14 01:02:08 PM
Slightly off topic here, but I think if they ever portray this pope in a movie, Jonathan Pryce would be a good fit:

 static.guim.co.uk
 
2014-01-14 01:07:21 PM
Did fark just eat my Jon Pryce pic? that sux
 
2014-01-14 01:19:14 PM

TiredWings: Ya know, somewhere there is a Cardinal that is going to be the next Pope thinking to himself " when I get in there I have to get crap back on the right path and to Hell with this charity and goody two slippers stuff!"


I sincerely believe that Josef ("Pope Emeritus Benedict) got into office and was pissed that John Paul II got rid of the Sedia Gestatoria. He totally seemed to be the type of guy who had no qualms asking to be carried around like Caesar.

My point is, hopefully these precedents and attitudes by Pope Francis will carry over, it isn't always easy to revert things.
 
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