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2014-01-13 10:17:47 PM  

Man On Pink Corner: B...b...but what if I'm a DOCTOR and I HAVE to text during the movie?!


It's never a doctor.

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2014-01-13 10:19:33 PM  
The problem is that people don't know how to talk to each other anymore.

CSB:  Went to see a movie quite a while ago and some dumb kid a couple rows in front was texting or browsing on his phone during previews.  I went up to him and asked if he could do me a favor and turn down the brightness on his phone. and maybe hold it a little lower.  And he did exactly that, through the entire movie and it didn't bother me.

A different time, way before that, there was some guy with a Bluetooth headset in his ear and it had a really annoying flashing blue light.  Before the movie started, I went up to him, made sure he wasn't on the phone talking with someone, then pointed out the light was distracting.  He apologized and put it in his pocket.

I think the issue with people now-a-days is that the build up in their head that is someone else annoys them, that it must be personal; that the person knows that their actions are annoying others around them, and they are doing it on purpose.  I'm not saying that there aren't people out there that annoy others on purpose like some real life internet troll.
 
2014-01-13 10:22:52 PM  

Dano33: There's a lot we don't know about what happened.. For all we know the old guy threw a hissy fit and the texter told him to calm down I'm gonna turn it off once the movie starts, the old guy doesn't leave it alone, so the texter throws some popcorn his way, old guy explodes and shoots the texter! Point being, even tho the texter is being painted as the provokie lol it could've been the old fart who was the being the A-hole..


We know exactly enough to know who was being an a-hole.  Texter for texting (and I don't care if it was during the previews, some people like to watch them) and the shooter for shooting after being assaulted with the all so deadly weapon of...popcorn.  One dead and hopefully one to jail...the rest of the world can take a lesson from this (not that I'll be holding my breath).
 
2014-01-13 10:23:19 PM  
Ain't respectin' our vet'rins by textin' durin' the previews befo' a wah movie?  That's a shootin'.
 
2014-01-13 10:47:26 PM  
Latest reports say it was a 71 year old retired cop who shot a young couple.
 
2014-01-13 10:51:57 PM  
This guy was texting the babysitter of his 3-year-old during the previews.
He's now dead, this girl is fatherless, and what does classy-ass Fark do?

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2014-01-13 10:55:18 PM  

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Gov Ann Richards will come back from the dead and throw your ass out


Alamo is very good on this.  Love Alamo on so many different levels.
 
2014-01-13 11:29:23 PM  

JimmyFartpants: This guy was texting the babysitter of his 3-year-old during the previews.
He's now dead, this girl is fatherless, and what does classy-ass Fark do?


Pretend Internet psychopaths gotta do their thing.
 
2014-01-13 11:30:13 PM  

DoctorCal: Huh. For some reason the murderer this time isn't a "sub human" "talking monkey" "farking animal" etc etc etc.

Reckon why.



You noticed that too, eh? I guess this was just a guy who got fed up and lost his temper (which could happen to anyone) whereas the woman who killed the sorority girl in a road rage incident (thread from Saturday) was a depraved savage animal who has no impulse control and should be culled from the herd.

Isn't it funny how that works?
 
2014-01-13 11:41:56 PM  
Here's what I think really happened. No joke. The old man hadn't been to the movies in over a decade. He's also an extreme right-winger who listens to Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh on the radio all day, so he's typically in a bad mood about society as a regular part of his normal thinking process.

This morning, Glenn Beck tells him on the radio to go see this particular movie, because it is about our patriot soldiers. So he decides to go for it, then draws an unfortunate seat behind the texter. Drawing on both his history as a retired police officer, and his anger for society, he loses it for a split second, and here we are.

Fark you, Glenn Beck.
 
2014-01-13 11:45:51 PM  

DoctorCal: Huh. For some reason the murderer this time isn't a "sub human" "talking monkey" "farking animal" etc etc etc.

Reckon why.


Because you're a racist.
 
2014-01-14 12:04:08 AM  

JimmyFartpants: This guy was texting the babysitter of his 3-year-old during the previews.
He's now dead, this girl is fatherless, and what does classy-ass Fark do?

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He was male therefore cannot be a victim.
 
2014-01-14 12:44:32 AM  

al's hat: Dano33: There's a lot we don't know about what happened.. For all we know the old guy threw a hissy fit and the texter told him to calm down I'm gonna turn it off once the movie starts, the old guy doesn't leave it alone, so the texter throws some popcorn his way, old guy explodes and shoots the texter! Point being, even tho the texter is being painted as the provokie lol it could've been the old fart who was the being the A-hole..

We know exactly enough to know who was being an a-hole.  Texter for texting (and I don't care if it was during the previews, some people like to watch them) and the shooter for shooting after being assaulted with the all so deadly weapon of...popcorn.  One dead and hopefully one to jail...the rest of the world can take a lesson from this (not that I'll be holding my breath).


B-b-but what if he's allergic to popcorn? That poor old man was just defending his life. He spent his life as a cop, he made the decision the warrior culture instilled in him.
 
2014-01-14 12:46:39 AM  

Prank Monkey: jaytkay: You gun nuts really need to calm down and stop this nonsense.

And if gun nuts you mean gang banger idiots I agree. We don't know anything about the guy who did this yet but I would bet you a whole $1 he was not carrying that gun legally.


He was a retired police chief, and it happened before the movie even started.
 
2014-01-14 12:50:12 AM  

Kougsy: Texting hasn't ever bugged me during movies. I don't know maybe it is because I can control where my eyes look.


You have attention switching deficit disorder.

You are a farmer not a hunter.

Squirrel? What Squirrel?
 
2014-01-14 01:00:36 AM  

zepillin: You are a farmer not a hunter.


a cubicalist not a wartime correspondent
a poker dealer not a bartender
a railroad engineer not a race car driver
 
2014-01-14 01:15:31 AM  
I'd acquit.
 
2014-01-14 01:34:56 AM  

Mugato: So he retired at 50? Forced retirement?


That's about when Tampa Police max out their pensions.
 
2014-01-14 01:39:41 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: I'm actually shocked this thread is so quiet. I mean Florida, Handguns AND Texing in the movies theater?.Not nearly as many internet tough guys as expected.


Why you stinking mother farker. Ill kick yer goddam ass.. STFU, DIAF!!!!!!

/that cool?
//I aim to please.
///slashies in threes.
 
2014-01-14 01:42:42 AM  
The victim and his wife have a little daughter. Sad as f*ck this happened.
 
2014-01-14 03:50:18 AM  

Stoj: The victim and his wife have a little daughter. Sad as f*ck this happened.


this.

Thank god that elderly person was allowed to carry a gun with him to defend himself against texting. Wooohoo. guns are awsome. Lets get more guns.
Guns for EVERYBODY!
 
2014-01-14 04:08:54 AM  
In another article, the texting asshole tried to defend himself by saying, "I was texting my daughter". Fine, so text her outside the theater, asshole. Jesus, so many parents are too goddam entitled.

/didn't deserve to get shot, of course.
 
2014-01-14 04:44:43 AM  

Prank Monkey: jaytkay: You gun nuts really need to calm down and stop this nonsense.

And if gun nuts you mean gang banger idiots I agree. We don't know anything about the guy who did this yet but I would bet you a whole $1 he was not carrying that gun legally.


Deal. You owe me a $1. With interest. Compounded hourly.
 
2014-01-14 04:49:32 AM  

dstrick44: Pathman: Prank Monkey: jaytkay: You gun nuts really need to calm down and stop this nonsense.

And if gun nuts you mean gang banger idiots I agree. We don't know anything about the guy who did this yet but I would bet you a whole $1 he was not carrying that gun legally.

you know what else we don't know?  whether the shooting was justified or not.
maybe he asked them to stop texting and they attacked him.

sound hard to believe?  i suppose it does.  not sure it's any harder to believe than the fact that someone would shoot and kill someone for texting.

i know they arrested the guy but remember that doesn't necessarily mean he did anything wrong...

/but yeah, probably a hothead moron.

If only more people in that theater had been packing. :~(
The only thing that can stop a nutty redneck with a gun is a whole theater full of nutty rednecks slinging lead in the dark.

I can say it. These are my people.


An off duty copy from a neighboring county got involved. I am pretty sure he was packing as well. So, there you go.
 
2014-01-14 06:21:41 AM  
dstrick44:

If only more people in that theater had been packing. :~(
The only thing that can stop a nutty redneck with a gun is a whole theater full of nutty rednecks slinging lead in the dark.

I can say it. These are my people.


looks like that's exactly what it was.  a retired cop.
love how everybody assumed gangbanger.
 
2014-01-14 06:27:25 AM  

Confabulat: Retired police officer, huh? Someone has the PSTD.


Pretty Stupid Thing to Do?
 
2014-01-14 07:14:24 AM  

I Browse: You noticed that too, eh? I guess this was just a guy who got fed up and lost his temper (which could happen to anyone) whereas the woman who killed the sorority girl in a road rage incident (thread from Saturday) was a depraved savage animal who has no impulse control and should be culled from the herd.

Isn't it funny how that works?


I don't think it's purely about race, however.   Perceived social slights are a bit different.
 
2014-01-14 07:21:22 AM  

Yogimus: This is a 2 for one.

1, The idiot with the phone got to die
2, the shooter self identified, and will be removed from society


the idiot with the phone who was texting his daughter during the previews you mean? of course then there's the wife and mother who put her hands in front of her husband to instinctively protect him from this guy shooting them.

we get it...txting in a theater is annoying....edgy.
 
2014-01-14 07:59:37 AM  
We're all missing the bigger lesson here....if the theater didn't so so many goddamn commercials and previews before a movie that daughter would still have a father.

/Seriously, one of our theaters starts at the advertised time by showing this crap for 20 minutes.
 
2014-01-14 08:01:02 AM  

dentalhilljack: We're all missing the bigger lesson here....if the theater didn't so so many goddamn commercials and previews before a movie that daughter would still have a father.

/Seriously, one of our theaters starts at the advertised time by showing this crap for 20 minutes.


show, dammit.  Show.
 
2014-01-14 09:11:27 AM  
And they probably still had to pay the babysitter
 
2014-01-14 09:15:53 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: I'm actually shocked this thread is so quiet. I mean Florida, Handguns AND Texing in the movies theater?.Not nearly as many internet tough guys as expected.


Even most gun grabbers agree that someone texting or talking during a movie needs killin'.  Especially in Texas
 
2014-01-14 09:52:45 AM  

dentalhilljack: We're all missing the bigger lesson here....if the theater didn't so so many goddamn commercials and previews before a movie that daughter would still have a father.

/Seriously, one of our theaters starts at the advertised time by showing this crap for 20 minutes.


France knows how to do this right. Every movie is posted with two times - one for the previews, and one for the *actual* movie. They bring the house lights up for 90 seconds in between so latecomers can find their seats, and then the show starts.
 
2014-01-14 10:13:47 AM  

LS1Bird: Here's what I think really happened. No joke. The old man hadn't been to the movies in over a decade. He's also an extreme right-winger who listens to Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh on the radio all day, so he's typically in a bad mood about society as a regular part of his normal thinking process.

This morning, Glenn Beck tells him on the radio to go see this particular movie, because it is about our patriot soldiers. So he decides to go for it, then draws an unfortunate seat behind the texter. Drawing on both his history as a retired police officer, and his anger for society, he loses it for a split second, and here we are.

Fark you, Glenn Beck.



You do realize that you've merely filled in the gaps in your knowledge with emotions and prejudices that were already rattling around in your head, right?

But in all seriousness, I will withhold judgment on this shooting until I know more details about the race, education level, income, work history and other demographic information about both the shooter and the deceased.

Because that's what matters, under the law.  In America.  These days.
 
2014-01-14 10:23:54 AM  

Phinn: LS1Bird: Here's what I think really happened. No joke. The old man hadn't been to the movies in over a decade. He's also an extreme right-winger who listens to Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh on the radio all day, so he's typically in a bad mood about society as a regular part of his normal thinking process.

This morning, Glenn Beck tells him on the radio to go see this particular movie, because it is about our patriot soldiers. So he decides to go for it, then draws an unfortunate seat behind the texter. Drawing on both his history as a retired police officer, and his anger for society, he loses it for a split second, and here we are.

Fark you, Glenn Beck.

You do realize that you've merely filled in the gaps in your knowledge with emotions and prejudices that were already rattling around in your head, right?

But in all seriousness, I will withhold judgment on this shooting until I know more details about the race, education level, income, work history and other demographic information about both the shooter and the deceased.

Because that's what matters, under the law.  In America.  These days.


To answer your questions:
Followup articles indicate that shooter is 70 years old and white. Retired from the police department 20 years ago.
And shootees are 30/40-something married white couple. He did accounting/finance for an ATV/JetSki dealership, she works for an insurance company.

But what it really boils down to is that they were all US citizens, and there is no evidence that they were non compos mentis.

/you could offer me $200k to manage a movie theater, and I'd turn it down
 
2014-01-14 10:30:08 AM  
This altercation started during the previews, probably just after the announcement came on to silence your phones. Dad see's the announcement and decides to text? The old guy says something and instead of apologizing and turning the phone off dad decides to fight the issue, and continues fighting after management was informed?

If this stops just one person from picking up their phone during a movie, the dad did not die in vain. Now, instead of the long "silence your phone" clips before the previews, they can just remind the audience people have been killed texting.

Or, they can just include a movie mode in every phone that shows white on black at reduced brightness. This could be used during movies or the bus, anyplace that annoying white glow from these stupid phones gets on people's nerves. Could save the lives of many boorish, ignorant people.
 
2014-01-14 10:32:42 AM  

Ficoce: management was informed


Were they? Or did grandpa just leave to get his gun?
 
2014-01-14 10:37:53 AM  
This past weekend I ran into the weirdest complaint at a theater. The Hobbit just finished up, and during the credits I stood up and was waiting for my wife to gather up her bag and jacket, because I really needed to stretch out my legs after sitting for three and a half hours. Suddenly, the lady behind me was berating me for being rude and blocking her view of the credits, like it was a terrible thing to stand up after a long movie during a credits sequence that has no extra scenes or any other Easter eggs. I didn't really hear her when she first started complaining, but my wife was about ready to hop over the seats and get into it with her.

The whole thing just seemed weird? Since when was it rude to stand up after a movie if there is nothing in the credits that you can't read on IMDB? It just was so weird it broke my brain a bit to the point where I would have said something if I wasn't totally having a "If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college" type moment.
 
2014-01-14 10:42:15 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Ficoce: management was informed

Were they? Or did grandpa just leave to get his gun?


Does it matter? Dad was still being a prick after a short cool down period. Not saying he deserved to die for being a jerk, but I kind assume he had a history of poor battle picking choices. I noticed his wife didn't step in front of him to protect, but had her hand on his chest - more likely to hold him back.  If she was holding him back, maybe he was the aggressive one. He didn't die from texting, arrogance killed him.
 
2014-01-14 10:51:28 AM  
(CNN) -- It started with a father sending text messages to his daughter during the previews of a movie.

During the previews, yes, acceptable to text.  Even by Alamo Drafthouse standards.
 
2014-01-14 10:57:33 AM  

Ficoce: arrogance killed him


The arrogance of a GUN NUT, that might makes right, yes.
 
2014-01-14 10:59:09 AM  
It's easier to stand your ground on a sticky floor.
 
2014-01-14 11:04:04 AM  

TheChaosPath: It's easier to stand your ground on a sticky floor.


+1, lol.
 
2014-01-14 11:13:30 AM  
Wow reading this thread after all the information came out is a clear sign how stupid people are.  Why can't people wait for information before looking like an ass.  I love how Prank Monkey turned tail and never came back.
 
2014-01-14 11:21:56 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Ficoce: arrogance killed him

The arrogance of a GUN NUT, that might makes right, yes.


They were both wrong. When a gun is pointed at your chest it's a good idea to back down. I mean, giving your life for your beliefs is commendable, but in 20 years the kid will only know her father from the pictures and the shooter will be dead. Dad could have walked away or at least had the sensibility to be shot in the back to show he was trying, at least. Then again, he could of just turned his phone off and texted the 3 year old after nap time.
 
2014-01-14 11:25:23 AM  

Ficoce: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Ficoce: arrogance killed him

The arrogance of a GUN NUT, that might makes right, yes.

They were both wrong. When a gun is pointed at your chest it's a good idea to back down. I mean, giving your life for your beliefs is commendable, but in 20 years the kid will only know her father from the pictures and the shooter will be dead. Dad could have walked away or at least had the sensibility to be shot in the back to show he was trying, at least. Then again, he could of just turned his phone off and texted the 3 year old after nap time.


Or you know, crazy ex-cop could not shoot people that text during the previews of a movie. Go ahead and blame the victim though if that makes you feel better.
 
2014-01-14 11:25:49 AM  

Ficoce: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Ficoce: arrogance killed him

The arrogance of a GUN NUT, that might makes right, yes.

They were both wrong. When a gun is pointed at your chest it's a good idea to back down. I mean, giving your life for your beliefs is commendable, but in 20 years the kid will only know her father from the pictures and the shooter will be dead. Dad could have walked away or at least had the sensibility to be shot in the back to show he was trying, at least. Then again, he could of just turned his phone off and texted the 3 year old after nap time.


Well I thought he was asking to get raped for wearing such a short skirt myself.
 
2014-01-14 11:31:16 AM  

tricycleracer: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: While I don't condone shooting someone for texting during a movie, I can certainly understand it.

This was during PREVIEWS.


Don' be innaruptin' mah PREVIEWS
 
2014-01-14 11:32:56 AM  

jaytkay: You gun nuts really need to calm down and stop this nonsense.


He was a retired cop.
More proof that cops should not be allowed to own or handle weapons.
 
2014-01-14 11:34:58 AM  

Ficoce: They were both wrong. When a gun is pointed at your chest it's a good idea to back down. I mean, giving your life for your beliefs is commendable, but in 20 years the kid will only know her father from the pictures and the shooter will be dead. Dad could have walked away or at least had the sensibility to be shot in the back to show he was trying, at least. Then again, he could of just turned his phone off and texted the 3 year old after nap time.


"Cummings said the man in the back row - later identified as Reeves - got up and left the auditorium, presumably to get a manager. But he came back after a few minutes, without a manager and appearing upset. Moments later, the argument between the two men resumed, and the man in the front row stood up. "

So the douche left to get the manager, manager probably said that it's the previews and he won't do anything about it.  Douche comes back and starts up the fight again, then pulls his gun to and shot the guy because somebody threw popcorn at him.  Death penalty is in order, no life in prison since that wouldn't be long enough.
 
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