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2014-01-13 07:37:02 PM  

Loaded Six String: What statement is there to make?


Before it came out that he was an ex-cop, all I heard (not here but from my gun toting friends) was that it must have been a criminal who got their piece on the black market. They seem to have disappeared.

/gun owner
 
2014-01-13 07:38:27 PM  

Mugato: Loaded Six String: What statement is there to make?

Before it came out that he was an ex-cop, all I heard (not here but from my gun toting friends) was that it must have been a criminal who got their piece on the black market. They seem to have disappeared.

/gun owner


My facebook page had lots of theories that he was a gangbanger and wondering if he was a person of color. No one offered up "71-year-old retired cop"
 
2014-01-13 07:40:26 PM  
Loaded Six String: <snip> It is very easy to point out dick holes like this after they pull a stunt like this, the hard part is preventing them from doing it.

/It would also be a plus to prevent them from doing it without treating every adult like an irresponsible hot-headed child.


Until 'the right to keep and bear arms' is treated JUST as equally as 'the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness', it appears that the right to shoot will retain supremacy. When the actual responsible gun owners can figure out how to stop the irresponsible gun owners, we're screwed. Because the responsible gun owners will allow NOBODY to dictate ANY gun policy beyond 2A.

/flame away.
 
2014-01-13 07:40:53 PM  

Confabulat: My facebook page had lots of theories that he was a gangbanger and wondering if he was a person of color. No one offered up "71-year-old retired cop"


So he retired at 50? Forced retirement?
 
2014-01-13 07:42:02 PM  

vudutek: Until 'the right to keep and bear arms' is treated JUST as equally as 'the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness',


One's in the Bill of Rights of the Constitution. The other is in the Declaration of Independence. What are you talking about?
 
2014-01-13 07:42:17 PM  

Dimensio: RevBigfoot: Prank Monkey: jaytkay: You gun nuts really need to calm down and stop this nonsense.

And if gun nuts you mean gang banger idiots I agree. We don't know anything about the guy who did this yet but I would bet you a whole $1 he was not carrying that gun legally.

Get your wallet out, the shooter was a retired cop. Sorry to shoot a hole in your gang banger theory...

Just another piece of evidence showing that the carrying of firearms should be restricted to law enforcement, active and retired.


He was retired LE
 
2014-01-13 07:42:38 PM  

Mugato: Confabulat: My facebook page had lots of theories that he was a gangbanger and wondering if he was a person of color. No one offered up "71-year-old retired cop"

So he retired at 50? Forced retirement?


I dunno, I saw his picture on the news.
 
2014-01-13 07:43:38 PM  
Yup, just another Southron Mensa member "standing his ground" against a thug with an iPhone 5.  I'll bet the phone terrorist had a bag of dangerous assault skittles in his pocket as well.
 
2014-01-13 07:45:35 PM  
He was a gangbanger. It just so happens his gang color was blue.
 
2014-01-13 07:46:22 PM  

Confabulat: Mugato: Confabulat: My facebook page had lots of theories that he was a gangbanger and wondering if he was a person of color. No one offered up "71-year-old retired cop"

So he retired at 50? Forced retirement?

I dunno, I saw his picture on the news.

===================

Most of the cops around here retire in their 40s.
 
2014-01-13 07:49:02 PM  

Fissile: Most of the cops around here retire in their 40s.


Not an ambitious lot I guess.
 
2014-01-13 07:51:29 PM  

Mugato: Fissile: Most of the cops around here retire in their 40s.

Not an ambitious lot I guess.


============

They retire in their 40s with $100K pensions then immediately get rehired at some other gov job.
 
2014-01-13 07:54:35 PM  

Mugato: IRQ12: While what happened in the article is pure insanity it could have been avoided with the slightest amount of common courtesy for those around you

It could have been avoided by the guy not pulling out a gun and blowing him away. I understand what you're saying, the texting guy was an asshole but you're making it sound like the gunman had no other choice but to kill him.


I don't think I am making it sound that way. I am making it sound like your shiatty behavior may put you in situations that could be avoided.
 
2014-01-13 07:59:40 PM  

Confabulat: The police are saying the shooter complained to management about his texting first but they did nothing. See, theater owners! Do your jobs!


So he complained to the manager before the movie had even started?! That kinda says a lot about him.. He obviously is a dick!
 
2014-01-13 08:16:12 PM  

Dano33: Confabulat: The police are saying the shooter complained to management about his texting first but they did nothing. See, theater owners! Do your jobs!

So he complained to the manager before the movie had even started?! That kinda says a lot about him.. He obviously is a dick!


Well, he is a retired cop...
 
2014-01-13 08:22:37 PM  

justanotherfarkinfarker: I could see that for talking during the movie, but texting isn't bad if you turn your screen down.


Obvious troll is obvious.

1/10
 
2014-01-13 08:27:25 PM  
Why is texting rude? makes noise?

I might go to see one movie a year. My popcorn is better.
 
2014-01-13 08:27:58 PM  
Amazing how many people DNRTFA. This guy will probably go to prison. Courts will consider the element of preclusion, and then the element of ability. Unfortunately this retired cop is likely going for it.
 
2014-01-13 08:29:17 PM  

Devo: Why is texting rude? makes noise?


Because it's like shining a flashlight in a dark theater?

I honestly think texters don't realize half the auditorium can see their screen light up. IT'S A DARK ROOM.
 
2014-01-13 08:29:39 PM  

DanZero: Went to see a movie one Friday night (Cloverfield)


Oh, shiat. I'm sorry you had to endure that.
 
2014-01-13 08:30:21 PM  

Devo: Why is texting rude? makes noise?

I might go to see one movie a year. My popcorn is better.


The guy probably didn't have his phone silenced.  Which, it would be polite to silence the phone if you are in an area where talking on it is rude.  Not death warranted, but rude.
 
2014-01-13 08:31:34 PM  

Confabulat: vudutek: Until 'the right to keep and bear arms' is treated JUST as equally as 'the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness',

One's in the Bill of Rights of the Constitution. The other is in the Declaration of Independence. What are you talking about?


Why is one so much more sacrosanct than the other? Not picking nits here, I'd really like to understand. Both documents explicitly state rights that we should be entitled to.
 
2014-01-13 08:32:38 PM  

Devo: Why is texting rude? makes noise?

I might go to see one movie a year. My popcorn is better.


Well it lights up like a quarter of the theater.

/goes to the theater about once a week as a social thing....other people and shiat
//doesn't buy popcorn
 
2014-01-13 08:33:57 PM  

Confabulat: Devo: Why is texting rude? makes noise?

Because it's like shining a flashlight in a dark theater?

I honestly think texters don't realize half the auditorium can see their screen light up. IT'S A DARK ROOM.


Can you imagine if he used the flashlight app?  Self defense let the old man go.

/the light wouldn't bother me, as long as it's before the movie and not during.
//the noise would be irritating from the start.
///to each their own.
 
2014-01-13 08:35:33 PM  
Ain't no movie fight like a Harlem Nights fight in the middle of Detroit movie fight. That's a good time right there.
 
2014-01-13 08:39:35 PM  

vudutek: Confabulat: vudutek: Until 'the right to keep and bear arms' is treated JUST as equally as 'the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness',

One's in the Bill of Rights of the Constitution. The other is in the Declaration of Independence. What are you talking about?

Why is one so much more sacrosanct than the other? Not picking nits here, I'd really like to understand. Both documents explicitly state rights that we should be entitled to.


The Constitution is the foundation of American law. It's the rules and regulations of the USA. The Declaration of Independence is just that; it's a document announcing that the 13 colonies were no longer a part of British rule. It has no legal standing at all though.

Do they not teach this stuff in school anymore?
 
2014-01-13 08:40:49 PM  
Justifiable homicide.
 
2014-01-13 08:41:34 PM  
the old man is a hero . if more of you farking retards on your phones were shot in movies , restaurants and other places for all the godamn shjt you pull , the world would be better off . since its florida he will get off and hopefully be awarded a farking medal . anyone who disagrees is a farking jaggoff pussy .
 
2014-01-13 08:41:59 PM  

Hawnkee: I love a story with a happy ending.


But the shooter was punished for handing out punishment richly deserved, so ending isn't so happy. :(

I mean, really. What kind of arsehole refuses to stop dicking with their phone, then throws popcorn in a childish tantrum? Fark 'im. And fark management for not doing anything about legit problems. More and more establishments seem to be refusing to deal with problem customers.
 
2014-01-13 08:46:54 PM  
Huh. For some reason the murderer this time isn't a "sub human" "talking monkey" "farking animal" etc etc etc.

Reckon why.
 
2014-01-13 08:48:25 PM  

jwmc1971: the old man is a hero . if more of you farking retards on your phones were shot in movies , restaurants and other places for all the godamn shjt you pull , the world would be better off . since its florida he will get off and hopefully be awarded a farking medal . anyone who disagrees is a farking jaggoff pussy .


Vector R: Hawnkee: I love a story with a happy ending.

But the shooter was punished for handing out punishment richly deserved, so ending isn't so happy. :(

I mean, really. What kind of arsehole refuses to stop dicking with their phone, then throws popcorn in a childish tantrum? Fark 'im. And fark management for not doing anything about legit problems. More and more establishments seem to be refusing to deal with problem customers.



You guys are hilarious.
 
2014-01-13 08:56:42 PM  
There's a lot we don't know about what happened.. For all we know the old guy threw a hissy fit and the texter told him to calm down I'm gonna turn it off once the movie starts, the old guy doesn't leave it alone, so the texter throws some popcorn his way, old guy explodes and shoots the texter! Point being, even tho the texter is being painted as the provokie lol it could've been the old fart who was the being the A-hole..
 
2014-01-13 08:57:02 PM  
Who here didn't know before reading the article that the jackass texting the in the theater was going to have a name like farking <b>Chad</b>?

Typical product of a failing culture that can't respect the rules of polite society.
 
2014-01-13 08:57:08 PM  

IRQ12: dascott: At first I was like "well, finally" but then I was like "wait, during the PREVIEWS?"  Florida, sigh.

The movie has started when the previews are showing.  Some people are interested in them and they run after the showtime starts.

While what happened in the article is pure insanity it could have been avoided with the slightest amount of common courtesy for those around you.  Especially if you continue you text after someone has expressed it bothers them.


Ehh... if the retired cop had brought out a baton and smashed the phone, I'd agree with you. If he had smashed his hand, I'd still agree with you. If the retired cop had brought back pepper spray or mace or a taser, I'd say that he's getting close to crossing the line.

But when it comes to pulling a gun on someone over texting in a movie theatre, that's three degrees of magnitude above Pure Insanity. It's at a point where you have to be insane to give any sort of justification for it, even in a joking way.

Texting in a theatre is aggravating at worst. In no way, shape or form does it deserve any sort of deadly violence, and even non-deadly violence is an overreaction.
 
2014-01-13 08:59:56 PM  

jaytkay: You gun nuts really need to calm down and stop this nonsense.


An armed theater is a polite theater...
 
2014-01-13 09:01:12 PM  

Mugato: StoPPeRmobile: Weird thing is that Wesley Chapel is the only place in Florida that I have ever been attacked.

/traveled the entire state
//work and play

You get attacked that often?


I've lived in many place in the world. Love chatting up people. Many do not like that. It scares them.
 
2014-01-13 09:02:14 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Authorities said the argument apparently began when the suspect became upset about noise the other couple was making while texting on a cell phone.

Justifiable homicide. Case dismissed.


He can take comfort in the certainty that there's not a jury on earth that would convict him. Not even in Florida.
 
2014-01-13 09:05:53 PM  

felching pen: Sin_City_Superhero: Authorities said the argument apparently began when the suspect became upset about noise the other couple was making while texting on a cell phone.

Justifiable homicide. Case dismissed.

He can take comfort in the certainty that there's not a jury on earth that would convict him. Not even in Florida.


It's all gonna come to what the witness's say.. I think he better have a better defense then, "I was pissed so I shot him" lol
 
2014-01-13 09:09:02 PM  

Dano33: felching pen: Sin_City_Superhero: Authorities said the argument apparently began when the suspect became upset about noise the other couple was making while texting on a cell phone.

Justifiable homicide. Case dismissed.

He can take comfort in the certainty that there's not a jury on earth that would convict him. Not even in Florida.

It's all gonna come to what the witness's say.. I think he better have a better defense then, "I was pissed so I shot him" lol


He's a retired cop he knows all the buzzwords to get the jury to believe in the just world.
 
2014-01-13 09:09:20 PM  

Mugato: Loaded Six String: What statement is there to make?

Before it came out that he was an ex-cop, all I heard (not here but from my gun toting friends) was that it must have been a criminal who got their piece on the black market. They seem to have disappeared.

/gun owner



Prank Monkey: jaytkay: You gun nuts really need to calm down and stop this nonsense.

And if gun nuts you mean gang banger idiots I agree. We don't know anything about the guy who did this yet but I would bet you a whole $1 he was not carrying that gun legally.

 
2014-01-13 09:10:23 PM  

Dano33: t's all gonna come to what the witness's say.. I think he better have a better defense then, "I was pissed so I shot him" lol


Popcorn assault!
 
2014-01-13 09:20:30 PM  
i1230.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-13 09:22:20 PM  
This is like in the Lego 4-D movies I've taken my kid to where wind blows and you feel mist when it rains on screen.

If you got to a WAR MOVIE you should wear at least wear a VEST!

Maybe some sandbags for your defensive position too.
 
2014-01-13 09:24:14 PM  
he didn't shoot him because he was texting. He shot him because he was a jerk. He got reported to management about the texting and obviously said something to the nice, retired officer and then got shot for that. Perhaps he should have texted 911 while he still had the chance...
 
2014-01-13 09:28:36 PM  
That theater does seem to uniquely choke the pole. Every time I go there numerous people seem to have a fixation with updating their Facebook account or some crap throughout the movie. Usually a bunch of bored, pathetic soccer moms lamenting the growth of their arse and their terrible suburban kids.

Hardly anyone ever seems to be working there to complain to. Quoting Chris Rock is indeed appropriate in this case.
 
2014-01-13 09:34:32 PM  
I'm pretty sure the guy would be just as dead if he'd had his throat cut with a knife, stabbed with a stiletto, or head bashed in with a billy club.

The weapon is meaningless in this case. One guy killed another guy and he's going to prison for a long time.

\ban cell phones
 
2014-01-13 09:41:10 PM  

browser_snake: I'm pretty sure the guy would be just as dead if he'd had his throat cut with a knife, stabbed with a stiletto, or head bashed in with a billy club.

The weapon is meaningless in this case. One guy killed another guy and he's going to prison for a long time.

\ban cell phones


No it's not. The victim was 43 and the shooter was 71. I'm pretty sure if the old man was coming at him with the weapons you described, the younger guy would be alive today. The gun is the only reason he's dead. Well that and the crazy old man.
 
2014-01-13 09:46:03 PM  

Pathman: Prank Monkey: jaytkay: You gun nuts really need to calm down and stop this nonsense.

And if gun nuts you mean gang banger idiots I agree. We don't know anything about the guy who did this yet but I would bet you a whole $1 he was not carrying that gun legally.

you know what else we don't know?  whether the shooting was justified or not.
maybe he asked them to stop texting and they attacked him.

sound hard to believe?  i suppose it does.  not sure it's any harder to believe than the fact that someone would shoot and kill someone for texting.

i know they arrested the guy but remember that doesn't necessarily mean he did anything wrong...

/but yeah, probably a hothead moron.


If only more people in that theater had been packing. :~(
The only thing that can stop a nutty redneck with a gun is a whole theater full of nutty rednecks slinging lead in the dark.

I can say it. These are my people.
 
2014-01-13 10:03:49 PM  
Oh wow this guy will definitely get the death penalty ...

"Retired officer"

... slap on the wrist.
 
2014-01-13 10:12:36 PM  
I'm actually shocked this thread is so quiet. I mean Florida, Handguns AND Texing in the movies theater?.Not nearly as many internet tough guys as expected.
 
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