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(Kare11)   A new bill has been introduced in the Minnesota House. This one is important, it would allow for the sales of alchohol on Sunday. We expect bipartisan support   (kare11.com) divider line 66
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2014-01-13 03:41:35 PM
About. Farking. Time.
 
2014-01-13 04:32:05 PM
She's a farking Loony, she is....
 
2014-01-13 04:35:44 PM
I bet the people that run the liquor stores won't like this
/no really
 
2014-01-13 04:36:10 PM
Here in Dothan, Alabama we just had alcohol sales made legal on Sunday a few months ago. You can still only buy it after 1 pm after all the god fearing folk have had a chance to lock themselves in their storm cellars.
 
2014-01-13 04:37:32 PM
Alchohol? Is that like vodak?
 
2014-01-13 04:37:41 PM
Alchohol?  Will Minnesotans also be allowed to buy malk on Saturday?

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2014-01-13 04:38:01 PM
Call me if/when Indiana gets with the program.

/also think its stupid you can't buy a car on Sundays
//how can a "free" market limit certain commerce transactions to only 6/7ths of the time in a given week.

i want a new truck, beer, and guns at 3:16 in the morning, what's your problem?
 
2014-01-13 04:38:49 PM
The only people who drink alcohol are idiots. Let them poison themselves 24/7 I say.
 
2014-01-13 04:38:50 PM

SquiggsIN: /also think its stupid you can't buy a car on Sundays


Jesus did JUST FINE without cars. I mean, really.
 
2014-01-13 04:39:17 PM
They've tried to do this for a while in MN, but it's always failed in the past due to a combination of moralistic pearl-clutching and small stores wanting protection from competition (i.e., they don't want to be forced to staff an additional day to compete with the larger stores).
 
2014-01-13 04:39:24 PM

SquiggsIN: Call me if/when Indiana gets with the program.

/also think its stupid you can't buy a car on Sundays
//how can a "free" market limit certain commerce transactions to only 6/7ths of the time in a given week.

i want a new truck, beer, and guns at 3:16 in the morning, what's your problem?


But I was promised that Daylight Saving Time would fix all the state's ills
 
2014-01-13 04:40:02 PM

SevenizGud: The only people who drink alcohol are idiots. Let them poison themselves 24/7 I say.


Eh, you'll get a bite or two, but it's a bit over the top
 
2014-01-13 04:43:45 PM
Here in good ol progressive Oklahoma, you can't buy anything other than 3.2 beer on Sunday. And, of course, you can only buy wine and liquor at a liquor store. And that ain't gonna change any time soon.
 
2014-01-13 04:44:17 PM

soupafi: I bet the people that run the liquor stores won't like this
/no really


Exactly. Being open Sunday doesn't mean more sales, it means the same sales spread out over 7 days instead of 6.

That said, liquor store owners need to adapt to a more free and open market place.
 
2014-01-13 04:44:25 PM
I'm sure at some point the rationalization was made that "if they can't buy it Sunday, they'll surely come to church to get a sip of shiatty wine!"  Apparently that guy has finally passed on and they are "modernizing".
 
2014-01-13 04:46:41 PM

SevenizGud: The only people who drink alcohol are idiots. Let them poison themselves 24/7 I say.


Alcohol butters.
 
2014-01-13 04:47:38 PM
I never understood why christian book stores are open Sundays but I can't buy wine to go with my wafers.
 
2014-01-13 04:47:50 PM
Nutters
 
2014-01-13 04:48:07 PM
In before Think Of The Children.
 
2014-01-13 04:51:42 PM
Donnchadha:

But I was promised that Daylight Saving Time would fix all the state's ills

/offtopic  Don't get me started on the weasel former governor* who pushed us into it.  It never made sense for Indiana and it never will.  DST isn't changing the rotation of the Earth, to my knowledge.

*get me started.  he's now the president of Purdue University (after appointing half the board of the University while he was governor of the state).  Purdue will never see another dime from me.  BOILER DOWN!
 
2014-01-13 04:53:14 PM

NightOwl2255: Here in good ol progressive Oklahoma, you can't buy anything other than 3.2 beer on Sunday. And, of course, you can only buy wine and liquor at a liquor store. And that ain't gonna change any time soon.


actually that sounds like something some of these places with blue laws might do. Every other day you can buy whatever ABV of beer they sell. On Sunday you can only buy piss-water "lite" beers.
 
2014-01-13 04:53:52 PM

SquiggsIN: Donnchadha:

But I was promised that Daylight Saving Time would fix all the state's ills

/offtopic  Don't get me started on the weasel former governor* who pushed us into it.  It never made sense for Indiana and it never will.  DST isn't changing the rotation of the Earth, to my knowledge.

*get me started.  he's now the president of Purdue University (after appointing half the board of the University while he was governor of the state).  Purdue will never see another dime from me.  BOILER DOWN!


Notre Dame grad here. Wife went to IU.

More like Purdon't.
 
2014-01-13 04:55:44 PM
I think it's funny there was a half-hearted debate around Michigan letting stores sell before 12 on Sunday.

I really couldn't care less - I, you know, could easily plan my schedule to buy alcohol on Saturday the *maybe* twice a year I need it before 12 on Sunday (kayaking/canoeing/fishing).  But some people were still (half-heartedly) aghast.

/shrug

SquiggsIN: /also think its stupid you can't buy a car on Sundays


I have a coworker who moved to Michigan from Indiana.  Anytime I complain about stuff here, he reminds me of what he very happily left behind.  Works wonders in shutting me up.
 
2014-01-13 04:58:40 PM

jshine: They've tried to do this for a while in MN, but it's always failed in the past due to a combination of moralistic pearl-clutching and small stores wanting protection from competition (i.e., they don't want to be forced to staff an additional day to compete with the larger stores).


Same reason a lot of older barber shops used to be closed on Mondays.  They wanted at least ONE day off a week, and if the law didn't mandate a certain day, whatever day they chose to take off someone else would swoop in and stay open just to undercut them.
 
2014-01-13 04:59:08 PM

NightOwl2255: Here in good ol progressive Oklahoma, you can't buy anything other than 3.2 beer on Sunday. And, of course, you can only buy wine and liquor at a liquor store. And that ain't gonna change any time soon.


Well it sure is good that Oklahoma is a republican state, where people recognize the need to keep government small and out of the way of commerce and personal freedom.
 
2014-01-13 05:01:22 PM

SquiggsIN: Call me if/when Indiana gets with the program.

/also think its stupid you can't buy a car on Sundays
//how can a "free" market limit certain commerce transactions to only 6/7ths of the time in a given week.

i want a new truck, beer, and guns at 3:16 in the morning, what's your problem?


Because Jesus rode a donkey.  You can still buy a donkey, beer, and guns at 3:16.  What's YOUR problem?
 
2014-01-13 05:01:54 PM

StrangeQ: jshine: They've tried to do this for a while in MN, but it's always failed in the past due to a combination of moralistic pearl-clutching and small stores wanting protection from competition (i.e., they don't want to be forced to staff an additional day to compete with the larger stores).

Same reason a lot of older barber shops used to be closed on Mondays.  They wanted at least ONE day off a week, and if the law didn't mandate a certain day, whatever day they chose to take off someone else would swoop in and stay open just to undercut them.


Maybe so, but it's not the place of the state to inconvenience 100% of the population to protect the profit margins of 0.001% of the population.

Hire another clerk or accept a small dent in sales.
 
2014-01-13 05:02:45 PM
Illinois doesn't allow booze to be sold on Sunday until 11:00 AM, but at least we don't have to put up with wacky state-controlled liquor stores, and supermarkets can sell hard liquor here. Almost makes up for living in Illinois.
 
2014-01-13 05:03:18 PM
When I lived in Minneapolis a number of years ago, New Year's Eve fell on a Sunday. I've seen jackknifed semis that caused less of a backup on the highway than the line of people driving to Wisconsin to stock up on booze and beer.
 
2014-01-13 05:05:02 PM
Doesn't want to live in a country where you stay open on Sunday to do business.

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2014-01-13 05:11:49 PM

jshine: NightOwl2255: Here in good ol progressive Oklahoma, you can't buy anything other than 3.2 beer on Sunday. And, of course, you can only buy wine and liquor at a liquor store. And that ain't gonna change any time soon.

Well it sure is good that Oklahoma is a republican state, where people recognize the need to keep government small and out of the way of commerce and personal freedom.


Yeah, they are all for freedom. Like the freedom to place Ten Commandment's monument on state property. Seems they don't cotton to a proposed monument to Satan quite at much. And to top it off, one of our more brilliant law-makers has been ranting about the "atheists and their satanist monument."
 
2014-01-13 05:15:27 PM

stpauler: About. Farking. Time.


Quoted in agreement.
 
2014-01-13 05:16:42 PM
This came up some years ago in CO too, store owners would rather be able to keep the day off. They figured shoppers should already know they can't stock up on Sunday, so it's no loss of sales. Either you make sure you're plenty stocked up for your boozin' brunch, or you have to live with shiatty grocery store .32 beer.

Not exactly a rallying political cause to worry about when there are still dry counties out there.
 
2014-01-13 05:17:07 PM

NightOwl2255: Well it sure is good that Oklahoma is a republican state, where people recognize the need to keep government small and out of the way of commerce and personal freedom.

Yeah, they are all for freedom. Like the freedom to place Ten Commandment's monument on state property. Seems they don't cotton to a proposed monument to Satan quite at much. And to top it off, one of our more brilliant law-makers has been ranting about the "atheists and their satanist monument."


I maintain that since Satan was a creation of their deity that xtians should have no problem with satan worshippers because at least they are buying into the other side of the mythology coin they use.
 
2014-01-13 05:22:52 PM

Erebus1954: Alchohol? Is that like vodak?


I think it has an additional hydrogen atom.
 
2014-01-13 05:23:52 PM

Trainspotr: When I lived in Minneapolis a number of years ago, New Year's Eve fell on a Sunday. I've seen jackknifed semis that caused less of a backup on the highway than the line of people driving to Wisconsin to stock up on booze and beer.


And yet in WI you can only buy until 9pm.

The trio heads to Rome, with Richard getting bleeped when he discovers "clutch or gearbox issues" with the Noble. In true Top Gear fashion, Jeremy and James leave him behind to be ignored by a surly tow-truck driver. Meanwhile, they get cautioned by the police, because they (and we) learn that in Italy, you need a permit to be working on a Sunday.
 
2014-01-13 05:25:27 PM
Well, that will hurt the tax revenue in North Dakota given the Minnesotans who drive over the border to buy booze there on Sundays.  I guess ND will still have the after 8pm crowd on weekdays for off sale.
 
2014-01-13 05:28:51 PM
Prohibition didn't work 7 days a week why would it work for one?
 
2014-01-13 05:29:53 PM

max_pooper: soupafi: I bet the people that run the liquor stores won't like this
/no really

Exactly. Being open Sunday doesn't mean more sales, it means the same sales spread out over 7 days instead of 6.

That said, liquor store owners need to adapt to a more free and open market place.


I disagree.  To me, at least,  liquor is an impulse buy.

I can think of multiple Sunday's I've spent grocery shopping thinking I should hit the liquor store next door on my way home.  Then I remember it's closed Sundays.  I don't make a 2nd trip later in the week for alcohol.

/just my personal economy.  I'm sure i'm not completely representive of the whole.
 
2014-01-13 05:31:41 PM
"About f'ing time! Pass me one of those brewskis!"

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2014-01-13 05:33:56 PM

max_pooper: soupafi: I bet the people that run the liquor stores won't like this
/no really

Exactly. Being open Sunday doesn't mean more sales, it means the same sales spread out over 7 days instead of 6.

That said, liquor store owners need to adapt to a more free and open market place.


The problem is for small operators, run by their owners. Imagine if you had a retail business that worked when you could get a day off, but now you have to be open everyday now.

Just ask Dante.
 
2014-01-13 05:35:54 PM

Syrrh: This came up some years ago in CO too, store owners would rather be able to keep the day off. They figured shoppers should already know they can't stock up on Sunday, so it's no loss of sales. Either you make sure you're plenty stocked up for your boozin' brunch, or you have to live with shiatty grocery store .32 beer.


Why just alcohol though?  Why not, say, gasoline (i.e., no gasoline sales on Sunday -- because you should know better).  It would help small gas stations compete.

Or (say) hardware -- i.e., no buying a rake or a power-drill on (say) Thursdays, so as to help small-town hardware stores compete against Home Depot?

It's not the place of the state legislature to protect your business model.  Deal with it.
 
2014-01-13 05:37:26 PM

wildcardjack: The problem is for small operators, run by their owners. Imagine if you had a retail business that worked when you could get a day off, but now you have to be open everyday now.


Yea -- you'd be on an equal footing with every other small businessperson or restauranteur, selling everything from gas to furniture to pancakes.  The horror!
 
2014-01-13 05:43:07 PM

wildcardjack: max_pooper: soupafi: I bet the people that run the liquor stores won't like this
/no really

Exactly. Being open Sunday doesn't mean more sales, it means the same sales spread out over 7 days instead of 6.

That said, liquor store owners need to adapt to a more free and open market place.

The problem is for small operators, run by their owners. Imagine if you had a retail business that worked when you could get a day off, but now you have to be open everyday now.

Just ask Dante.


Mooby's is open 7 days a week just like the QuickStop and RST Video...    farking savages in that town
 
2014-01-13 05:49:00 PM
Come to Michigan and buy booze on Sunday Morning.
 
2014-01-13 05:50:24 PM
SquiggsIN: ~~*get me started.  he's now the president of Purdue University (after appointing half the board of the University while he was governor of the state).  Purdue will never see another dime from me.  BOILER DOWN!

When I win the lottery, the press release will say: "I wanted to give half to Purdue University but my accountant pointed out that the apostle of infrastructure privatization was hired by the Board of Trustees to run the university ... and I won't have my money going to Macquarie again."
 
2014-01-13 05:53:02 PM

SquiggsIN: Call me if/when Indiana gets with the program.

/also think its stupid you can't buy a car on Sundays
//how can a "free" market limit certain commerce transactions to only 6/7ths of the time in a given week.

i want a new truck, beer, and guns at 3:16 in the morning, what's your problem?


Yeah it's even more boggling when you realize Indiana specifically tailored its prohibition lifting law to ensure that the public always had access to alcohol. That's the reason why anyone can walk into Costco or Sam's and buy booze in Indiana. 45+ states sell booze on Sunday. It hasn't ruined the market for independent liquor stores there.

My "favorite" side on the matter was the guy who owns Big Red Liquors. Started out small, owns dozens of liquor stores in all the Indiana college towns, and just bought the largest chain of liquor stores in Indy (UPL).

Goes on to say he doesn't want small business owners to be crowded out, even though he's bought dozens of independent stores and made them part of his giant chain. He has a nice little tangent about not wanting to increase alcohol abuse or drunk driving too. Really a portrait in cognitive dissonance.

http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/readers/2013/12/13/dont-expand -s unday-alcohol-sales/4016769/
 
2014-01-13 05:56:55 PM

jshine: wildcardjack: The problem is for small operators, run by their owners. Imagine if you had a retail business that worked when you could get a day off, but now you have to be open everyday now.

Yea -- you'd be on an equal footing with every other small businessperson or restauranteur, selling everything from gas to furniture to pancakes.  The horror!


Better than equal footing- since booze is always a growth industry.
 
2014-01-13 06:00:54 PM
As a lifelong California resident, I find your stories about state stores and blue laws and 3.2ABV beers funny and horrible. 

/Grocery stores, big box stores, corner markets, everyone's got beer and booze.
//Also, it's like 80F here today
///Sorry, rest of the country.
 
2014-01-13 06:08:55 PM

mikebdoss: As a lifelong California resident, I find your stories about state stores and blue laws and 3.2ABV beers funny and horrible. 

/Grocery stores, big box stores, corner markets, everyone's got beer and booze.
//Also, it's like 80F here today
///Sorry, rest of the country.


I remember moving from SoCal to Mass. for a while.  I got there and was astounded...  you have to buy booze in a special store?  It was like living in some strange science-fiction horror.  Then I had a friend from PA explain to me that in Boston I had it easy.

/84F here today, I'm wearing shorts and the windows are all open
 
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