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(Some Guy)   You remember the meltdown of the Fukushima plant, and how bad scientists predicted it would be? Well, good news: it's much, much worse   (iacknowledge.net) divider line 207
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2014-01-13 01:25:35 PM
Good news for the anti-nuclear science haters?
 
2014-01-13 01:29:36 PM
Only cites anti-nuclear blogs: check
Unsupported claims: check
Compares dissimilar units: check
Doesn't use context: check

PEOPLE MADE RADIATION SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD AND IT SHOULD TERRIFY YOU.

Here it is again, in case you missed it the first time:

Radiation is detectable at a level far, far below anything even remotely harmful to human life. Unless you happen to live inside the reactor complex at Fukushima, odds are that you have never and will be exposed to anything harmful from Fukushima. If you happened to be in Japan during the original crisis, but outside of the reactor complex, you might have received a dosage up to that of a mammogram *if* you were unlucky.
 
2014-01-13 01:34:57 PM

Fubini: Only cites anti-nuclear blogs: check
Unsupported claims: check
Compares dissimilar units: check
Doesn't use context: check


You missed "Makes use of misleading photography"
 
2014-01-13 01:36:22 PM
Your blog sucks.
 
2014-01-13 01:37:36 PM
Folks, let me break it down like this.  At Fukushima, there was a meltdown of shut-down reactors and a release of radioactive steam, most intense in its effects while the I-131 was still radioactive.  There is a continued problem with leaking fission products into the groundwater and ocean.  It is a bad situation for the workers and the people that used to live nearby.

At Chernobyl, a much larger reactor was operating at full-blast under test conditions and ended up spiking to 3600% of rated power and it actually exploded.  The reactor burst the containment lid high into the air (with attending, radioactive plume of debris and steam) which then fell to earth atop the core mass (with attending, radioactive plume of debris) and then the process repeated itself (with attending, radioactive plume of debris and steam).  This is not to say that Fukushima isn't dangerous or a serious mess, but just that Chernobyl was off the scale by A LOT.
 
2014-01-13 01:39:48 PM
This according to Some Guy.

/your blog sucks
 
2014-01-13 01:41:43 PM
Is this before or after the meltdown that's being reported at the same place this year.
 
2014-01-13 01:42:03 PM
Is it as bad as some of my high functioning retarded friends on Facebook keep posting it is? Is radioactive waste washing ashore on the west coast?
 
2014-01-13 01:42:24 PM
FTA:

Cooper spoke out to the US media ahead of a class action law suit that US first responders are brining against TEPCO, the Japanese energy firm responsible for the nuclear site:

Well, I should hope so.  We should expect nothing less than that from our salty old sailors.
 
2014-01-13 01:42:45 PM

violentsalvation: Your blog sucks.


^this
 
2014-01-13 01:43:00 PM

the_sidewinder: Fubini: Only cites anti-nuclear blogs: check
Unsupported claims: check
Compares dissimilar units: check
Doesn't use context: check

You missed "Makes use of misleading photography"


You also missed "Calls the Israel-Palestine conflict apartheid"

You also also missed "Has no masthead, statement of ownership, or statement of editorial policy"
 
2014-01-13 01:43:02 PM
What amazes me about the whole situation on the USS Ronald Reagan is that an aircraft carrier, with not one but TWO nuclear reactors onboard didn't  have radiation alarms that don't go utterly berzerk when radioactive snow falls on your flight deck, and irradiated water is being run through all the farking water pipes.

You'd think there would be a Giger counter or a dosimeter running all the time on a boat built to fight a cold war with nuclear weapons, that also contains nuclear reactors.
 
2014-01-13 01:43:10 PM
It goes from worst disaster ever to 'eh not so bad almost daily...like most other "news" stories on the internets. I believe nothing anybody says anymore...in fact you should ignore this post or not.........
 
2014-01-13 01:43:52 PM
"As op ed news reports"

That's some efficient contradictions.
 
2014-01-13 01:44:30 PM
Attention people of Japan:

If Godzilla hasn't appeared yet, he's not coming.
 
2014-01-13 01:44:48 PM
Everything mentioned in that garbage pile of a blog was known or suspected a year or more ago; that the zone around Fukushima will remain contaminated for decades (absent a massive clean up attempt, which Japan isn't even trying),that the cleanup will cost billions and take decades, that the fish in the region are radiated, that first responders have cancer, and that small amounts of radiation will eventually reach the West Coast.  I expected something "worse" as the title implied; to those who have followed this disaster since it happened, and read something more than Suzuki's fearmongering warnings, we already knew these things would happen.
 
2014-01-13 01:45:25 PM
Well, I'm sure my area network news affiliate will have something of this...

[turns on TV]


...never mind. There are even more deadly issues at hand. Apparently, according to my Fox affiliate, some illness called Idle Fever is reclaiming the continental U.S.
 
2014-01-13 01:45:39 PM
Meh. It would be nice to be able to get real information about this situation and its real impact from actual scientists who don't have either a pro- or anti- nuclear stance. This blog may have grains of truth embedded somewhere (not actually sure where, just trying to be nice really) but they are buried under an avalanche of pure poo.
 
2014-01-13 01:46:16 PM

LarryDan43: Is it as bad as some of my high functioning retarded friends on Facebook keep posting it is? Is radioactive waste washing ashore on the west coast?


No. The west coast is perfectly safe. I'd question buying authentic sushi from the Fukushima fisheries though.
 
2014-01-13 01:46:28 PM
encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2014-01-13 01:47:03 PM
Since that was long, here are some important bits:

An average of 1.7 people per 100,000 in the general population between the ages of 15 and 19 contracted Thyroid cancer in 2007.  This year, 12 per 100,000 people younger than 18 at the time of the disaster in Fukushima were diagnosed with the disease.

The disaster in March 2011 pumped 733,000 Curies of radioactive caesium into the Pacific, the largest discharge of radioactive material into the ocean in history.  Fifteen months later, 56% of all fish catches off japan were contaminated.

The Japanese government have also been seeking to cover up the environmental impacts of the catastrophe by quietly slaughtering irradiated animals.

Last December, it was discovered that homeless Japanese men and women were being recruited to clean up the site of the disaster for minimum wage.

"Full release from the Unit-4 spent fuel pool, without any containment or control, could cause by far the most serious radiological disaster to date,", releasing three times the radioactive material of the 1986 Chernobyl disaster, or 14,000 Hiroshimas."
 
2014-01-13 01:47:47 PM
Wasn't there a guy running around japan with a geiger counter showing (relatively) high radiation in water puddles?
 
2014-01-13 01:49:09 PM
iacknowledge.net I tried a google image search and while a lot of "Buy Cesium pills zomg fukushima" webpages are using this pic, it looks to be a petrochemical facility and not at all a nuclear facility.  Fukushima itself looks very different from this.
 
2014-01-13 01:49:16 PM

Bendal: that first responders have cancer


This has not happened. There were a couple of radiation burns, if I recall correctly.

It will take decades before the first responders develop cancer, if they ever do. Radiation doesn't "give" you cancer like the flu, the odds are there will be no long term radiation effects to anybody.

It's something like, if they had a 1% chance of developing cancer before, now they have a 2% chance of developing it.
 
2014-01-13 01:50:39 PM
Can someone explain, with plain and simple terms (and maybe some interpretative dancing), just how bad the situation is?.
 
2014-01-13 01:50:50 PM
I love how stupid people went from knowing nothing about the dangers of radiation to paranoia about the stuff. I'd love it even more if reported exposure was in BDYs (bananana a day for a year).
 
2014-01-13 01:51:26 PM

Shadi: Wasn't there a guy running around japan with a geiger counter showing (relatively) high radiation in water puddles?


There was a guy who found radiation in Tokyo, which was traced to some antique bottles of radium water that someone had kept. Not at a level that was harmful, unless you were drinking the stuff.
 
2014-01-13 01:51:41 PM
Surely it can't be as bad as climate change. Let's see how many comments this story gets vs. the warming thread
 
2014-01-13 01:51:42 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Since that was long, here are some important bits:

An average of 1.7 people per 100,000 in the general population between the ages of 15 and 19 contracted Thyroid cancer in 2007.  This year, 12 per 100,000 people younger than 18 at the time of the disaster in Fukushima were diagnosed with the disease.

The disaster in March 2011 pumped 733,000 Curies of radioactive caesium into the Pacific, the largest discharge of radioactive material into the ocean in history.  Fifteen months later, 56% of all fish catches off japan were contaminated.

The Japanese government have also been seeking to cover up the environmental impacts of the catastrophe by quietly slaughtering irradiated animals.

Last December, it was discovered that homeless Japanese men and women were being recruited to clean up the site of the disaster for minimum wage.

"Full release from the Unit-4 spent fuel pool, without any containment or control, could cause by far the most serious radiological disaster to date,", releasing three times the radioactive material of the 1986 Chernobyl disaster, or 14,000 Hiroshimas."


HA HA!
 
2014-01-13 01:51:59 PM
When I saw "As Op-Ed News reports," I knew I couldn't take this seriously. I have friends on Facebook who write obsessively on Fukushima and post tsunami wave maps mislabeled as "radiation hits West Coast!!!1!!"
/The meltdown is a tragedy, but this panic is imbecilic.
 
2014-01-13 01:52:34 PM
"[But now], my thyroid is so out of whack that I can lose 60 to 70 pounds in one month and then gain it back the next. My menstrual cycle lasts for a six months at a time, and I cannot get pregnant. It's ruined me."

She sounds hot, every other month for half the year.
 
2014-01-13 01:53:33 PM
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2014-01-13 01:55:46 PM

CygnusDarius: Can someone explain, with plain and simple terms (and maybe some interpretative dancing), just how bad the situation is?.


0.media.todaysbigthing.cvcdn.com

"Pretty bad. Unless you like women with three breasts."
 
2014-01-13 01:55:57 PM

LarryDan43: Is it as bad as some of my high functioning retarded friends on Facebook keep posting it is? Is radioactive waste washing ashore on the west coast?


No. The ocean is a huge place.

Imagine you chucked a barrel of black dye into the ocean off the coast of Japan. Some molecules of that dye might eventually make it all the way to the west coast of the US, but not in any significant concentration- not even enough to tint the water.  Now think about it- how much dye would you have to chuck into the ocean to actually get it to show up on the west coast?

This is a flawed analogy, because ocean currents and wind currents have a lot to do with how oil spreads, but imagine something like the Exxon Valdez in Alaska or the BP spill in the gulf. Both environmental nightmares, but did they screw up the entire ocean? No, that's crazy talk. The ocean is an immense place.
 
2014-01-13 01:56:24 PM
Oh Japan...... I get it, I really do. Nuclear power is awesome for the most part. Unlimited energy, renewable, and very clean with fourth generation reactors. But there is one thing about these sources of energy that has a huge requirement. Build it in a stable, calm area where natural disasters are not a daily thing.

And what do you do?

Your entire nation is the result of violent volcanic activity on the edge of a "ring of fire" which is a ring of active underwater volcanos in the Pacific. You drill nation wide on a yearly basis for earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and Tsunamis. And you build a NUCLEAR FARKING REACTOR on the FARKING COAST. They were really just asking for it.
 
2014-01-13 01:56:28 PM

CygnusDarius: Can someone explain, with plain and simple terms (and maybe some interpretative dancing), just how bad the situation is?.


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-13 01:56:51 PM

CygnusDarius: Can someone explain, with plain and simple terms (and maybe some interpretative dancing), just how bad the situation is?.


snltranscripts.jt.org
An expert explains.
 
2014-01-13 01:57:00 PM
I like how they only link to themselves, similar to birther blogs.

Total bullshiat in the article.
 
2014-01-13 01:57:01 PM

GentlemanJ: When I saw "As Op-Ed News reports," I knew I couldn't take this seriously. I have friends on Facebook who write obsessively on Fukushima and post tsunami wave maps mislabeled as "radiation hits West Coast!!!1!!"
/The meltdown is a tragedy, but this panic is imbecilic.



I think the growing tragedy is the complete lack of critical thinking skills and failure to do rudimentary fact checking for one's own sake.

These people are easy marks.
 
2014-01-13 01:57:28 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Since that was long, here are some important bits:

An average of 1.7 people per 100,000 in the general population between the ages of 15 and 19 contracted Thyroid cancer in 2007.  This year, 12 per 100,000 people younger than 18 at the time of the disaster in Fukushima were diagnosed with the disease.

The disaster in March 2011 pumped 733,000 Curies of radioactive caesium into the Pacific, the largest discharge of radioactive material into the ocean in history.  Fifteen months later, 56% of all fish catches off japan were contaminated.

The Japanese government have also been seeking to cover up the environmental impacts of the catastrophe by quietly slaughtering irradiated animals.

Last December, it was discovered that homeless Japanese men and women were being recruited to clean up the site of the disaster for minimum wage.

"Full release from the Unit-4 spent fuel pool, without any containment or control, could cause by far the most serious radiological disaster to date,", releasing three times the radioactive material of the 1986 Chernobyl disaster, or 14,000 Hiroshimas."


THIS
Explain to me again why we have nuclear power.
On second thought, don't
 
2014-01-13 01:57:30 PM

Rapmaster2000: [iacknowledge.net image 850x524] I tried a google image search and while a lot of "Buy Cesium pills zomg fukushima" webpages are using this pic, it looks to be a petrochemical facility and not at all a nuclear facility.  Fukushima itself looks very different from this.


img.fark.net

upload.wikimedia.org

 
2014-01-13 01:57:52 PM

Shadi: Wasn't there a guy running around japan with a geiger counter showing (relatively) high radiation in water puddles?


Unfortunately he was dressed like this when he was doing it, so people didn't take him seriously.

futuregiraffes.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-13 01:58:36 PM
t0.gstatic.com
 
2014-01-13 01:58:55 PM

factoryconnection: At Chernobyl, a much larger reactor was operating at full-blast under test conditions and ended up spiking to 3600% of rated power and it actually exploded. The reactor burst the containment lid high into the air (with attending, radioactive plume of debris and steam) which then fell to earth atop the core mass (with attending, radioactive plume of debris) and then the process repeated itself (with attending, radioactive plume of debris and steam). This is not to say that Fukushima isn't dangerous or a serious mess, but just that Chernobyl was off the scale by A LOT.


And then you had all the mutations and zone anomalies and the whole breakdown of the rules of reality caused by the psychic experiments going on there.

www.100hdwallpapers.com
 
2014-01-13 01:59:03 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Rapmaster2000: [iacknowledge.net image 850x524] I tried a google image search and while a lot of "Buy Cesium pills zomg fukushima" webpages are using this pic, it looks to be a petrochemical facility and not at all a nuclear facility.  Fukushima itself looks very different from this.
[img.fark.net image 850x524]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x257]


Nice.

Here's the side-scrolling version:

atariage.com
 
2014-01-13 01:59:57 PM

fluffy2097: You'd think there would be a Giger counter


And what use would that be? It would only go off in the presence of Alien movies or Emerson, Lake & Palmer's "Brain Salad Surgery."
 
2014-01-13 02:00:19 PM

Rapmaster2000: [iacknowledge.net image 850x524] I tried a google image search and while a lot of "Buy Cesium pills zomg fukushima" webpages are using this pic, it looks to be a petrochemical facility and not at all a nuclear facility.  Fukushima itself looks very different from this.


This; also article claims that cancer rates in the US are soaring; well, cancer rates among US sailors; well, cancer rates among sailors on the Ronald Reagan, which may or may not have any statistical validity.  And:

My menstrual cycle lasts for a six months at a time.How long is she PMSing, then?  Mein Gott!  Who needs Godzilla?
 
2014-01-13 02:01:15 PM
Somehow I knew Japan would be the ones to end it all.

They are already the most insane culture ever. Imagine how much more wonky they will get once they are doused in more radiation?
 
2014-01-13 02:01:26 PM

Satanic_Hamster: factoryconnection: At Chernobyl, a much larger reactor was operating at full-blast under test conditions and ended up spiking to 3600% of rated power and it actually exploded. The reactor burst the containment lid high into the air (with attending, radioactive plume of debris and steam) which then fell to earth atop the core mass (with attending, radioactive plume of debris) and then the process repeated itself (with attending, radioactive plume of debris and steam). This is not to say that Fukushima isn't dangerous or a serious mess, but just that Chernobyl was off the scale by A LOT.

And then you had all the mutations and zone anomalies and the whole breakdown of the rules of reality caused by the psychic experiments going on there.

[www.100hdwallpapers.com image 850x637]


Get out of here Stalker!
 
2014-01-13 02:01:39 PM
Those morons who posoned the (Pacific) well, need to step up the seppuku.
 
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