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(CNBC)   Stock market traders say that the characters in "The Wolf of Wall Street" are exaggerated. For one thing, who is going to believe that the main character actually goes to jail for committing financial crimes?   (cnbc.com) divider line 96
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2014-01-13 09:13:38 AM  
Oh really, is that why you assholes started cheering during the screening?  If the French Revolution ever comes here and they put a new reality version of the Running Man only with bankers and stockbrokerrs, the second coming won't have the Nielson ratings that does.
 
2014-01-13 09:25:07 AM  
In jail, yeah for about 5 minutes. Now he's on the lecture circuit.
 
2014-01-13 09:57:29 AM  
You know, that movie was a lot better than I thought it was going to be.

I laughed my arse off.

******************SPOILER **********************

Interesting thing I noticed, of all the scenes that were down right shocking the only scene that the audience actually sucked wind at was when DiCaprio punched the chick.

I guess chivalry isn't totally dead.
 
2014-01-13 10:28:00 AM  
I heard there was a lot of sex and drugs in the movie. So much that it barely got an R rating, it was really more like nc17.
 
2014-01-13 10:30:56 AM  
At least the DiCaprio character committed suicide at the end.
 
2014-01-13 10:31:36 AM  
Sure. The reality is far less funny and charismatic.
 
2014-01-13 10:32:27 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: At least the DiCaprio character committed suicide at the end.


LOLWUT
 
2014-01-13 10:33:13 AM  

vernonFL: I heard there was a lot of sex and drugs in the movie. So much that it barely got an R rating, it was really more like nc17.


I really don't know how it did not get an NC17 rating, considering the amount of full frontal nudity.
 
2014-01-13 10:34:56 AM  

FeatheredSun: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: At least the DiCaprio character committed suicide at the end.

LOLWUT


well the motivational/sales speech circuit is a lot like Purgatory.
 
2014-01-13 10:35:22 AM  

vernonFL: I heard there was a lot of sex and drugs in the movie. So much that it barely got an R rating, it was really more like nc17.


Not as much nudity as you might think... there's a bunch of topless strippers in a couple of scenes, but that's about it...

And there's less drugs shown than "Blow" or any episode of "Weeds" or "Breaking Bad".

So no, not really... There's over 500 f-bombs though... that's something right?

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I laughed my arse off.


I was gasping for air when the Lemmons kicked in and they skipped straight to the drool phase and discovered the cerebral palsy phase.
 
2014-01-13 10:35:54 AM  
I loved the book and can't wait to see the movie. Not a big fan of seeing holiday movies right when they come out, so I will try and catch it this week, maybe American Hustle next week.
 
2014-01-13 10:36:13 AM  
That about settles it.
Nudity and Wall Street Glory To The Theft is not enough to get my money the old fashioned way.
Nannys gonna have to make new taxes, you want mine.
 
2014-01-13 10:36:33 AM  
Jordan Belfort has a huge ego, and the story is written by himself.

So, yeah, no shiat sherlock, the movie is you watching his ego.
 
2014-01-13 10:37:01 AM  
Thanks for the spoiler, Subby.

I'm going to short your mother, subby.
 
2014-01-13 10:37:59 AM  
Wow, so they are going to start exaggerating characters in movies now? What year is it again? 1920?
 
2014-01-13 10:38:49 AM  
It really is a shame that that this Too Big To Jail has come home to roost.
It makes a great fairytale, but as a Business Plan, it really sucks to be us.
 
2014-01-13 10:40:42 AM  
Joe Rundle, head of trading at ETX Capital, London, stressed that the trading floors depicted in these types of films are often far removed from reality.

That's because 'Wolf of Wall Street' and its predecessor, 'Boiler Room,' were not about staid Wall Street firms but penny trading bucket shops churning crap for big spreads.

'Margin Call' was about a small group trading CDOs and I have not seen 'Arbitrage.'

'Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps'  did show Shia Labouf working on a trading floor, but I don't remember it being displayed as a hectic frenzy.
 
2014-01-13 10:40:55 AM  

vernonFL: I heard there was a lot of sex and drugs in the movie. So much that it barely got an R rating, it was really more like nc17.


The big names behind it has to be the only reason it didn't get NC-17. And I'd be totally fine with that if theaters and advertisers weren't such prudes about showing NC-17 movies.

/loved the movie, will be buying on DVD
 
2014-01-13 10:41:18 AM  
 Not as much nudity as you might think... there's a bunch of topless strippers in a couple of scenes, but that's about it...

Either we did not watch the same movie, or there is far more nudity in the version shown in France, because there are a lot of pussy shots in the one I've seen, including the main female character.
 
2014-01-13 10:43:06 AM  

StrikitRich: Joe Rundle, head of trading at ETX Capital, London, stressed that the trading floors depicted in these types of films are often far removed from reality.

That's because 'Wolf of Wall Street' and its predecessor, 'Boiler Room,' were not about staid Wall Street firms but penny trading bucket shops churning crap for big spreads.

'Margin Call' was about a small group trading CDOs and I have not seen 'Arbitrage.'

'Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps'  did show Shia Labouf working on a trading floor, but I don't remember it being displayed as a hectic frenzy.


I liked Boiler Room. I especially liked the alternate ending. It was too cute to work but it was what should have happened there and so many other places that celebrate separating people from their wealth.
 
2014-01-13 10:45:08 AM  
this movie just reaffirmed my sadness for not being born soon enough to try quaaludes.
 
2014-01-13 10:45:48 AM  

CeroX: discovered the cerebral palsy phase.


That scene physically hurt me. Starting there and ending with Popeye.

I was feeling really bad about laughing though that whole movie, I thought there was just something really really wrong with me and my friends. Then I saw that "The Wolf of Wallstreet" was listed under comedy at the Golden Globes.


"and morphine.... 'cause morphine is awesome"
 
2014-01-13 10:46:12 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: At least the DiCaprio character committed suicide at the end.


The real life version did not and many feel he has not done nearly enough to repay his victims. He is out of prison and living a pretty good life from the looks of things. I don't know if he picked up a check from this movie but one would hope that if he did it is being divided across the people he stole the money from.
 
2014-01-13 10:46:34 AM  

padraig: Not as much nudity as you might think... there's a bunch of topless strippers in a couple of scenes, but that's about it...

Either we did not watch the same movie, or there is far more nudity in the version shown in France, because there are a lot of pussy shots in the one I've seen, including the main female character.


He probably watched the TS from the internet where most of that is cut out.
 
2014-01-13 10:46:56 AM  

padraig: vernonFL: I heard there was a lot of sex and drugs in the movie. So much that it barely got an R rating, it was really more like nc17.

I really don't know how it did not get an NC17 rating, considering the amount of full frontal nudity.


It starred DiCaprio and opened Christmas Day.
 
2014-01-13 10:48:53 AM  
I love it when millionaire capitalists rake in more millions by making a movie about the evils of capitalism. I hear they're going to team up next to make a movie about the evils of income inequality; they're predicting that it will gross more than Avatar.
 
2014-01-13 10:49:03 AM  

padraig: Not as much nudity as you might think... there's a bunch of topless strippers in a couple of scenes, but that's about it...

Either we did not watch the same movie, or there is far more nudity in the version shown in France, because there are a lot of pussy shots in the one I've seen, including the main female character.


He's understating it and you're overstating it. It's not full on spread eagle-display, It's your standard full-frontal shots. Why I'm surprised it didn't get NC-17 though is that in the past of I've heard filmmakers say the MPAA wanted them to do stuff like trim the number of thrusts during a sex scene to get it down to R. But there's a couple scenes with Leo going to town, and that one extended one where there must have been at least a dozen or so.
 
2014-01-13 10:50:47 AM  

monoski: The real life version did not and many feel he has not done nearly enough to repay his victims.


Of course he didn't and people were whining that the film glamorized the whole thing, like Scorsese should have white washed the thing to have a happy ending where the bad guy gets his. That doesn't happen in real life. There are a lot of obvious parallels to Goodfellas.
 
2014-01-13 10:51:30 AM  

DrPainMD: I love it when millionaire capitalists rake in more millions by making a movie about the evils of capitalism. I hear they're going to team up next to make a movie about the evils of income inequality; they're predicting that it will gross more than Avatar.


You know that capitalism isn't perfect right?
 
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2014-01-13 10:51:47 AM  
Our hero worship in the US is TOTALLY farkED UP.  This guy isn't a hero, but I am sure the assholes on Wall Street think he is.
 
2014-01-13 10:52:11 AM  

DrPainMD: I love it when millionaire capitalists rake in more millions by making a movie about the evils of capitalism


You obviously didn't see or didn't get the film but don't let that stop you from your little mini-anti Hollywood rant.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-01-13 10:52:25 AM  

Mrtraveler01: DrPainMD: I love it when millionaire capitalists rake in more millions by making a movie about the evils of capitalism. I hear they're going to team up next to make a movie about the evils of income inequality; they're predicting that it will gross more than Avatar.

You know that capitalism isn't perfect right?


corporatism =/= capitalism.
 
2014-01-13 10:53:45 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: FeatheredSun: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: At least the DiCaprio character committed suicide at the end.

LOLWUT

well the motivational/sales speech circuit is a lot like Purgatory.


I was just making fun of Subby's spoilerific headline
 
2014-01-13 10:56:03 AM  

lewismarktwo: padraig: Not as much nudity as you might think... there's a bunch of topless strippers in a couple of scenes, but that's about it...

Either we did not watch the same movie, or there is far more nudity in the version shown in France, because there are a lot of pussy shots in the one I've seen, including the main female character.

He probably watched the TS from the internet where most of that is cut out.


the screener hit torrents awhile ago.
 
2014-01-13 10:56:29 AM  
All this talk of "it should've had an NC-17 rating" makes me want to see this now.
 
2014-01-13 10:59:25 AM  

DrPainMD: I love it when millionaire capitalists rake in more millions by making a movie about the evils of capitalism. I hear they're going to team up next to make a movie about the evils of income inequality; they're predicting that it will gross more than Avatar.


You know that was what I was expecting. I was expecting a 3 hour long movie about how capitalists and capitalism sucked. I was ready to rage about millionaires decrying the system that made them wealthy.

Didn't get that.

What I got was a really really funny movie that at the end shows that anything done in excess. Really could have done without the last thirty minutes of the movie, but I understand they felt the need to tell the whole story.
 
2014-01-13 11:01:00 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The Stealth Hippopotamus: FeatheredSun: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: At least the DiCaprio character committed suicide at the end.

LOLWUT

well the motivational/sales speech circuit is a lot like Purgatory.

I was just making fun of Subby's spoilerific headline


I thought you were just throwing up fake spoilers so that people who haven't seen the movie wouldn't know what to believe.

Now that you have busted yourself .... Oh well
 
2014-01-13 11:03:23 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: DrPainMD: I love it when millionaire capitalists rake in more millions by making a movie about the evils of capitalism. I hear they're going to team up next to make a movie about the evils of income inequality; they're predicting that it will gross more than Avatar.

You know that was what I was expecting. I was expecting a 3 hour long movie about how capitalists and capitalism sucked. I was ready to rage about millionaires decrying the system that made them wealthy.

Didn't get that.


Scorsese makes a lot of movies about scumbags but he doesn't judge them. Like Goodfellas, Casino, ect. he doesn't even really try to make a point that the mafia is bad. He just sort of reports what happens and lets the audience make up their minds.
 
2014-01-13 11:04:05 AM  

snocone: It really is a shame that that this Too Big To Jail has come home to roost.
It makes a great fairytale, but as a Business Plan, it really sucks to be us.


too big to jail
too big to fail
too big to wrest political control from
 
2014-01-13 11:07:56 AM  
Bravo, subby!   Bravo!
 
2014-01-13 11:09:41 AM  
Oh, thanks for the spoiler, subby.  I really appreciate that.

//No I don't
 
2014-01-13 11:09:59 AM  

Mugato: The Stealth Hippopotamus: DrPainMD: I love it when millionaire capitalists rake in more millions by making a movie about the evils of capitalism. I hear they're going to team up next to make a movie about the evils of income inequality; they're predicting that it will gross more than Avatar.

You know that was what I was expecting. I was expecting a 3 hour long movie about how capitalists and capitalism sucked. I was ready to rage about millionaires decrying the system that made them wealthy.

Didn't get that.

Scorsese makes a lot of movies about scumbags but he doesn't judge them. Like Goodfellas, Casino, ect. he doesn't even really try to make a point that the mafia is bad. He just sort of reports what happens and lets the audience make up their minds.


There was a scene in the book that Goodfellas was based on that I wish Scorsese had put in the movie. One of the older women on the block was walking home from the bus. After she got down the street aways, a black kid (he obviously didn't live in the neighborhood) was walking fast and closing on her. The kid didn't notice that every 300 pound goodfella along the block was watching him stalk the lady. She got the door open to her building and the kid jumped in behind her. And right after him came 8 or 9 behemoths. They threw the kid off the top of the building.

I thought that expressed a lot about community back then. And about how goodfellas resolved problems on their own.
 
2014-01-13 11:11:16 AM  

CeroX: vernonFL: I heard there was a lot of sex and drugs in the movie. So much that it barely got an R rating, it was really more like nc17.

Not as much nudity as you might think... there's a bunch of topless strippers in a couple of scenes, but that's about it...

And there's less drugs shown than "Blow" or any episode of "Weeds" or "Breaking Bad".

So no, not really... There's over 500 f-bombs though... that's something right?

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I laughed my arse off.

I was gasping for air when the Lemmons kicked in and they skipped straight to the drool phase and discovered the cerebral palsy phase.


Reportedly it was headed for NC-17 and avoided it by trimming a few frames of nudity and drug use here and there, which very likely was just more of the same stuff that's in the film, and whenever we see the "director's cut" no one will be able to tell the difference.
 
2014-01-13 11:16:16 AM  

CeroX: vernonFL: I heard there was a lot of sex and drugs in the movie. So much that it barely got an R rating, it was really more like nc17.

Not as much nudity as you might think... there's a bunch of topless strippers in a couple of scenes, but that's about it...

And there's less drugs shown than "Blow" or any episode of "Weeds" or "Breaking Bad".


Although didn't he huff blow out of a hooker's ass? Not OFF of a hooker's ass. OUT of it.
 
2014-01-13 11:18:11 AM  

browntimmy: vernonFL: I heard there was a lot of sex and drugs in the movie. So much that it barely got an R rating, it was really more like nc17.

The big names behind it has to be the only reason it didn't get NC-17. And I'd be totally fine with that if theaters and advertisers weren't such prudes about showing NC-17 movies.

/loved the movie, will be buying on DVD


what's a dvd?
 
2014-01-13 11:20:02 AM  

Mugato: The Stealth Hippopotamus: DrPainMD: I love it when millionaire capitalists rake in more millions by making a movie about the evils of capitalism. I hear they're going to team up next to make a movie about the evils of income inequality; they're predicting that it will gross more than Avatar.

You know that was what I was expecting. I was expecting a 3 hour long movie about how capitalists and capitalism sucked. I was ready to rage about millionaires decrying the system that made them wealthy.

Didn't get that.

Scorsese makes a lot of movies about scumbags but he doesn't judge them. Like Goodfellas, Casino, ect. he doesn't even really try to make a point that the mafia is bad. He just sort of reports what happens and lets the audience make up their minds.


This.

He is telling a story through the eyes of the subject of the story. In this story the subject of the story is a egomaniac psychopath, so of course their is never  going to be a part in the movie were it distinctly points out that this person and their actions are bad because the person telling the story doesn't believe it himself. If the audience needs the story teller to point out that Belfort's actions were bad, then there is something wrong with them.
 
2014-01-13 11:23:36 AM  

KatjaMouse: CeroX: vernonFL: I heard there was a lot of sex and drugs in the movie. So much that it barely got an R rating, it was really more like nc17.

Not as much nudity as you might think... there's a bunch of topless strippers in a couple of scenes, but that's about it...

And there's less drugs shown than "Blow" or any episode of "Weeds" or "Breaking Bad".

Although didn't he huff blow out of a hooker's ass? Not OFF of a hooker's ass. OUT of it.


Looked to me like it was INTO her ass, he wasn't snorting with his nose, but blowing with his mouth...
 
2014-01-13 11:27:28 AM  
FTA: "He added that he often interviews young job applicants who say they want to be a trader because of the glamorous lives captured in these films.
"I have to warn them it's not like that-and it might be 30 years before they buy their first Ferrari," he said."

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2014-01-13 11:27:36 AM  

CeroX: I was gasping for air when the Lemmons kicked in and they skipped straight to the drool phase and discovered the cerebral palsy phase.


I really wonder how many takes that took, you know someone in the crew (or Scorsese himself) blew at least one of them by laughing their ass off.
 
2014-01-13 11:27:42 AM  
Have to do everything around here, I guess ...

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