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(Daily Mail)   If you are a drug dealer living in England, have 22 kids including a bank robber and a murderer, you too could get £1.2m in state benefits   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 13
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2014-01-13 05:41:45 AM
4 votes:
Another day, another piece of made up bullshiat from the Daily Fail.
2014-01-13 06:05:18 AM
3 votes:
This is just the Daily Fail jumping on the bandwagon. One of our TV channels is showing a controversial series called Benefits Street which is essentially poverty porn aimed at the Fail's right-wing readership.
But the truth is that benefit fraud accounts for a tiny percentage of the total social security bill, and represents less than one percent of what the government could recoup if it clamped down on tax avoidance and evasion. It costs the country more every time the RAF flies one of its planes into a mountain, and if the pilot projects successfully that event will get no more than two paragraphs on an inside page.
MPs themselves have been shown to be the worst offenders when it comes to illegally claiming government handouts.
2014-01-13 12:27:49 AM
3 votes:
Clearly this single example proves that all government assistance needs to end.
2014-01-13 04:06:03 AM
2 votes:
everything else aside, especially since I'm not going to bother reading that article, is submitter/daily fail implying that he shouldn't get state benefits because two of his kids are criminals?

so if i robbed a gas station they should take away my parents social security?
2014-01-13 03:07:05 AM
2 votes:
Wow, that's like 1/1,000,000,000th* of what the wealthy rape society of each year.


*conservative underestimation
2014-01-13 09:32:29 AM
1 votes:

marcpen: This is just the Daily Fail jumping on the bandwagon. One of our TV channels is showing a controversial series called Benefits Street which is essentially poverty porn aimed at the Fail's right-wing readership.
But the truth is that benefit fraud accounts for a tiny percentage of the total social security bill, and represents less than one percent of what the government could recoup if it clamped down on tax avoidance and evasion. It costs the country more every time the RAF flies one of its planes into a mountain, and if the pilot projects successfully that event will get no more than two paragraphs on an inside page.
MPs themselves have been shown to be the worst offenders when it comes to illegally claiming government handouts.


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The tactic of attacking the entire welfare system as a failure by using one extreme case of fraud was pioneered by Ronald Reagan, who coined the term, "Welfare Queen".    Read the story of Linda Taylor.....it's long but worth it.  This woman was a full blown sociopath, but her story was presented as being typical of people who were on the dole.  http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2013/12/linda _ taylor_welfare_queen_ronald_reagan_made_her_a_notorious_american_villa in.html
2014-01-13 08:20:44 AM
1 votes:

marcpen: This is just the Daily Fail jumping on the bandwagon. One of our TV channels is showing a controversial series called Benefits Street which is essentially poverty porn aimed at the Fail's right-wing readership.
But the truth is that benefit fraud accounts for a tiny percentage of the total social security bill, and represents less than one percent of what the government could recoup if it clamped down on tax avoidance and evasion. It costs the country more every time the RAF flies one of its planes into a mountain, and if the pilot projects successfully that event will get no more than two paragraphs on an inside page.
MPs themselves have been shown to be the worst offenders when it comes to illegally claiming government handouts.


there's been a ton of complaints about that show. i think it's gonig to get axed

the fail is the last place id look for any assessment of the welfare state
2014-01-13 06:43:41 AM
1 votes:
Soooo 1.2mil over the course of what? 40 years and feeding/clothing 15 children (7 don't know him)? I'm sure that number includes whatever bloated housing subsidy he got for his flat as well.

*math noises*

Okay that's about 67,000 (pounds... not opening charmap) a year which even including housing bennies is pretty extravagant to do nothing and it says he's actually only been out of work for 10 years so even if he was an on again/off again worker before then that number gets inflated to let's say 80,000.

Now I know we are supposed to buy into the whole idea that England is a nation of loafers who live like gods on the back of the poor starving worker class and persecuted upper crust but somehow... SOMEHOW I don't think they pay welfare bums what equates to WELL over $100,000 per year.

That said... for those who allow these types of story whip them up into a right wing frenzy (and believe me I dislike people who actually abuse the system just as much as the herpiest tea derper) then your ire should be directed at the incompetent social workers who allow this type of crap to go on for generations.

So no... you don't get to take examples like this (well real examples of abuse anyway) and attack all poor people who require assistance but DO get to attack another favorite target. The Big Gov Bureaucrat all sitting smug and elitist in their ivory tower handin' out yer hard earned jerb monies to the druggies and blacks.

Go get 'em, boys!
2014-01-13 06:22:48 AM
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: Fark It: Adrian, one of his sons, was 18 years old when he killed his babysitter
His daughter, Rianna, pleaded guilty to being drunk and disorderly at a village carnival

I didn't know England had the south.

I think England is like Florida Korea, the civilized areas are in the south and the yokels are in the north.

2014-01-13 06:18:50 AM
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: Fark It: Adrian, one of his sons, was 18 years old when he killed his babysitter
His daughter, Rianna, pleaded guilty to being drunk and disorderly at a village carnival

I didn't know England had the south.

I think England is like Florida, the civilized areas are in the south and the yokels are in the north.


Just like America .
2014-01-13 05:44:03 AM
1 votes:

log_jammin: everything else aside, especially since I'm not going to bother reading that article, is submitter/daily fail implying that he shouldn't get state benefits because two of his kids are criminals?

so if i robbed a gas station they should take away my parents social security?


Of course not, they're implying that NO ONE should get state benefits because some of the people who do are shady.
2014-01-13 01:57:18 AM
1 votes:

Fark It: Adrian, one of his sons, was 18 years old when he killed his babysitter
His daughter, Rianna, pleaded guilty to being drunk and disorderly at a village carnival

I didn't know England had the south.


1. Why did an 18 year old need a babysitter?
2. Who isn't drunk at carnivals?
2014-01-13 12:17:50 AM
1 votes:

Fark It: Adrian, one of his sons, was 18 years old when he killed his babysitter
His daughter, Rianna, pleaded guilty to being drunk and disorderly at a village carnival

I didn't know England had the south.


I think England is like Florida, the civilized areas are in the south and the yokels are in the north.
 
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