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(PJ Media)   "Who needs Ayn Rand? America has already gone John Galt"   (pjmedia.com) divider line 94
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2014-01-12 01:11:47 PM
32 votes:
Dumbass.

The unemployed who have stopped looking for work aren't exactly John Galt. John Galt was a super-rich facist superman who went on strike against the tax man in the wet-dream fantasy of a White Russian harlot.

Also, where does that 92 million figure come from? Did he find it between his buttocks?

4% of the population of the USA is 0.04 x 316=12.64 million, about the number of undocumented workers according to Conservative sources. That's roughly the gap that the chart shows. 92 million? That must be every adult who isn't looking for work including retirees and stay-at-home moms, and yes, John Galt.

What a dumbass.

My guess is that if a real-life John Galt went on strike, nobody would notice him not doing whatever the hell it is he does. One, it is not billionaires who make jobs. Jobs are made by small and medum sized businesses--real entrepreneurs, not bankers, hedge funders, speculators, kleptocrats, vultures, etc.

The big money does not make jobs. The big money destroys jobs to pump up their bottom lines, to pay a dividend, and to make themselves look good with shareholders who don't know or care about the real world or Main Street, but only dividends or share prices.

This guy has less of a grip on reality than Ayn Rand's most pizza-faced teenage acolyte.

Bugger John Galt and the ass he rode in on. Which in his case is named Roger L. Simon.
2014-01-12 05:35:23 PM
8 votes:
This is why no one listens to Americans about anything. You're all a caricature of humanity.

img.fark.net
2014-01-12 04:55:02 PM
6 votes:

Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice


Create strawman.
Knock it down.
Repeat again in every thread.

You're a boring troll.
2014-01-12 05:17:56 PM
5 votes:

Mjeck: Fart_Machine: Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice

Create strawman.
Knock it down.
Repeat again in every thread.

You're a boring troll.

What strawman? You don't even know me bro...


I'd say the opposite side is true... the deck chairs are askew, so you morons think the ship is sinking.

For the first time in more than a decade, I can afford to contribute to my own health insurance, mostly because now my tax dollars help to cover me, instead of just going towards the old (Medicare), the poor (Medicaid), the young (CHiP), and federal employees. Ya, there are problems, it took me more than a month to get enrolled, and I had to verify my citizenship 3 times, then send a check to BCBS because apparently this whole wacky online payment thing is far too newfangled for them. That said, on Jan 1st, for the first time in ever, I got all four of my MS drugs in the same month, until then, they had cost more than I actually make in a month... so right now, the conservative "solution" is to scuttle the ship, for me to be uninsured again, and hope that maybe you f@#@ers can come up with something more than the NOTHING AT ALL you've come up with since you killed HillaryCare with the idea that the conservatives could craft a better solution. You hate the ACA, fine... come to the grown ups table when you have something better to offer, until then, don't expect us to fall for the same damn trick twice.
2014-01-12 05:03:43 PM
5 votes:
reminder: PJ Media was one of the original blogs that caused the phrase "your blog sucks" to become part of the fark lexicon
2014-01-12 04:23:09 PM
5 votes:
Who Is John Galt?

John Galt is the personification of a social, economic, and political philosophy that is unsustainable in real life.
2014-01-12 04:15:59 PM
5 votes:
 I don't know about love,  but the work part of our lives has been brutally kicked out from under us in the Obama years, due to the foreign and domestic policies of the GOP from the previous administration in combination with the obstructionist practices of the current GOP in congress.
2014-01-12 06:59:29 PM
4 votes:

spongeboob: MJMaloney187: brantgoose: Dumbass.

John Galt was a super-rich facist superman who went on strike against the tax man in the wet-dream fantasy of a White Russian harlot.

Not that you would know because you obviously didn't read the book, but John Galt was a laborer for the Taggart Transcontinental railroad company. He invented an engine that ran on atmospheric static electricity, then abandoned it. He was not a billionaire and he certainly wasn't a "facist-superman".

In the end, it was the looter class that captured him and were getting ready to torture him for the engine. He escaped. (spoiler alert).

Sure you read the book
The novel unfolds in a progressive retrospective, with Galt, the son of an Ohio garage mechanic, leaving home at age twelve and beginning college at the fictional Patrick Henry University at age sixteen. There he meets Francisco d'Anconia and Ragnar Danneskjöld, who become his two closest friends. Galt takes a double major in physics and philosophy, and after graduating, he becomes an engineer at the Twentieth Century Motor Company, where he designs a revolutionary new motor powered by ambient static electricity. When the company owners decide to run the factory by the collectivist maxim, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need", Galt refuses to work there any longer and abandons his motor.



Just to be clear, there's nothing that MJMaloney187 said that was technically wrong, although he didn't word it correctly. John Galt WAS working for Taggart Transcontinent in the book, under a psuedonym (He had many close conversations in the cafeteria with Eddie Willers). He did it to stay close to Dagny, whom he had a crush on and was stalking throughout the entire novel. And they of course fall in love because Ayn Rand doesn't understand human psychology at all.

And yes, he invented a fantasy engine (while working for the 20th Century Motor Company) that uses science fiction physics to work and is so far advanced beyond anything anyone has ever done before that no one on the entire planet has the intelligence or the skill to duplicate or reverse-engineer his genius, even when they have a working copy of the engine and the motherfarking blueprints for its construction that just happened to be lying around in an abandoned factory. Because he's just that super brilliant, gosh darnit.

/read the whole book while sitting on the can
//took me 2.5 years to use all the pages
2014-01-12 05:32:02 PM
4 votes:
America is a shiathole of stagnant growth because you refuse to pay anyone for anything. That's the recipe that got you the great depression. Even the most wealthy would benefit from a vibrant middle class. It would keep their money from becoming Monopoly Bucks and the angry poor from severing their head.
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-01-12 05:10:53 PM
4 votes:
Maybe people aren't working because they aren't being paid fair wages.
2014-01-12 05:05:48 PM
4 votes:

Doktor_Zhivago: Wait people have actually finished an ayn rand book? Last I tries I got like 12 pages in before I wanted to end my life...


Thank you. From a literary standpoint it's the most boring, ignorant, piece of tripe I have ever had the misfortune of picking up. As for Galt not being a fascist-rich-Superman, I would argue instead that he was a horrible human being that spent half the book arguing rational selfishness (rational egoism). Everything that Jesus, Ghandi, the current Pope or anyone with an actual soul argued against. How this makes him a "hero" to the GoP I will never know...wait a minute...
2014-01-12 05:03:27 PM
4 votes:

Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice


Tea Party continues to crap all over the poors, women, and minorities, exalt 'fark you I've got mine' sociopathy, and somehow think this is a winning message.

Keep farking that chicken.
2014-01-12 04:56:13 PM
4 votes:
Who would have thought that over 30 years of policies designed to decrease workers wages and benefits and maximize investor and executive profits would have a negative effect on the workforce?

 For many years growing up, I remember hearing comments like "Of course everything is made in (Japan/China/Taiwan), those people work for rice and fish heads!" . If the GOP can successfully destroy all of the social safety nets, eventually Americans will take any job at any wage. Then cheap manufacturing will come back here and people in Asia will say it's because Americans will work for pork rinds and fries.
2014-01-12 04:19:29 PM
4 votes:

PC LOAD LETTER: vudukungfu: Who is John Galt?

This guy:

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And this guy:
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This guy:

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And of course these people as well:
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Clearly, we are about to see a New Age of Greatness


I love that the Republican Party, the bastion of anti-Communist God-fearin' Amurcans, follows the economic advice of a Russian atheist.
2014-01-12 04:06:23 PM
4 votes:
I was amused how the two lines in the chart only diverged after Obama became president. Shouldn't the red and blue lines have been separate all the way to the beginning of the chart? There is no way to express more clearly how certain issues only become issues when a Democrat is in office. Elect a Republican and we will never see that chart again.
2014-01-12 06:38:27 PM
3 votes:
The John Galt fantasy is one in which you are a precious snowflake with unique skills and the world can't live without you.  Protip:  roughly a billion people can replace you.
2014-01-12 06:03:24 PM
3 votes:
Account created: 2005-03-25

Goddamn sleeper trolls.
2014-01-12 05:53:49 PM
3 votes:

Mjeck: Don't hate the ACA, but keep trying


Alternatively, we could stop trying to understand you, recognize that you're incapable of communicating even the vaguest idea of a point, and realize there's no reason to care.
2014-01-12 05:40:47 PM
3 votes:

Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice

You're so scared of progress and the 21st century that you compare America to a sinking ship?

Lol, you just introduced socialized health care, 60 years after every other 1st world country...and I'm behind the times?! .... Nice


America does not have socialized medicine. But you did not address my post.
2014-01-12 05:34:41 PM
3 votes:

Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice


You're so scared of progress and the 21st century that you compare America to a sinking ship?
2014-01-12 05:34:34 PM
3 votes:
As someone who was laid off in my sixties, I can assure you that I wasn't 'going Galt'.

What is it with the US, giving credence to the likes of Ayn Rand, rather than pitying her, like the rest of the world.
2014-01-12 05:20:54 PM
3 votes:

Great_Milenko: The guy who wrote this represents everything that is wrong with America. He should be ashamed to look at himself in the mirror in the morning.


Psychopaths can't feel shame.
2014-01-12 05:19:10 PM
3 votes:

vudukungfu: Who is John Galt?


A fictional asshole that the right admires.
2014-01-12 05:10:22 PM
3 votes:

Gyrfalcon: So to reiterate the author's question: if those 90 million people have "abandoned the workforce" what ARE they doing? Does he REALLY believe there are now 90 million panhandlers, whores and welfare moochers lying around the nation no longer even trying to find work?

And if so, who are they? WHERE are they? There are still lots of jobs out there, why aren't some of those 90 million applying?


It doesn't matter. The stupid people who read PJ Media will take it at face value and never question it.
2014-01-12 04:37:48 PM
3 votes:

MJMaloney187: brantgoose: Dumbass.

John Galt was a super-rich facist superman who went on strike against the tax man in the wet-dream fantasy of a White Russian harlot.

Not that you would know because you obviously didn't read the book, but John Galt was a laborer for the Taggart Transcontinental railroad company. He invented an engine that ran on atmospheric static electricity, then abandoned it. He was not a billionaire and he certainly wasn't a "facist-superman".

In the end, it was the looter class that captured him and were getting ready to torture him for the engine. He escaped. (spoiler alert).


Sure you read the book
The novel unfolds in a progressive retrospective, with Galt, the son of an Ohio garage mechanic, leaving home at age twelve and beginning college at the fictional Patrick Henry University at age sixteen. There he meets Francisco d'Anconia and Ragnar Danneskjöld, who become his two closest friends. Galt takes a double major in physics and philosophy, and after graduating, he becomes an engineer at the Twentieth Century Motor Company, where he designs a revolutionary new motor powered by ambient static electricity. When the company owners decide to run the factory by the collectivist maxim, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need", Galt refuses to work there any longer and abandons his motor.
2014-01-12 11:27:42 PM
2 votes:

Bloody William: rebelyell2006: Here's the answer: Try to be a better liberal and stop judging yourself against your response to the right

Did you have another stroke?

I'm sorry, I've completely lost track of this conversation. Which one is the feigned farkwit and which one if the guy feeding the feigning farkwit's ego? I really can't tell.

/You or the other guy are playing ping-pong with balls made of stupid and nothing.


This is just someone's darling little alt (not rebelyell--mjeck) who comes in, makes an inflammatory yet inscrutable statement; then spends the entire remainder of the thread saying essentially: "I refuse to respond because libslibslibs." I'd figure out who it is who does this all the time if I cared enough to go back through the Farkives; but it's just some damn troll. Does it all the freaking time, and some idiot always obligingly snaps at the "I refuse to respond because you're too stupid to go read the data for yourself" bait.

Stop feeding it, and it will crawl back under its bridge.
2014-01-12 10:03:56 PM
2 votes:

spongeboob: MJMaloney187: brantgoose: Dumbass.

John Galt was a super-rich facist superman who went on strike against the tax man in the wet-dream fantasy of a White Russian harlot.

Not that you would know because you obviously didn't read the book, but John Galt was a laborer for the Taggart Transcontinental railroad company. He invented an engine that ran on atmospheric static electricity, then abandoned it. He was not a billionaire and he certainly wasn't a "facist-superman".

In the end, it was the looter class that captured him and were getting ready to torture him for the engine. He escaped. (spoiler alert).

Sure you read the book
The novel unfolds in a progressive retrospective, with Galt, the son of an Ohio garage mechanic, leaving home at age twelve and beginning college at the fictional Patrick Henry University at age sixteen. There he meets Francisco d'Anconia and Ragnar Danneskjöld, who become his two closest friends. Galt takes a double major in physics and philosophy, and after graduating, he becomes an engineer at the Twentieth Century Motor Company, where he designs a revolutionary new motor powered by ambient static electricity. When the company owners decide to run the factory by the collectivist maxim, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need", Galt refuses to work there any longer and abandons his motor.


I'm glad you pointed this out. This hero of many self proclaimed capitalists performed work on his employer's dime but he thought that he shouldn't have to share the fruits of the labor he was paid for with his employer. Even though he was being paid for his time and effort, instead of giving the company the results of those payments he decided to greedily keep it for himself because of his ideological problem with the company management. Is there a conservative or libertarian here who would like to defend the practice of not giving one's employer what they were paid for? For keeping to oneself work done on company time and the company dime? If he has handed off his work and notes before quitting that would be one thing, but he didn't. He just abandons the project he was being paid for.

It's also important to note as you mentioned that Galt was not rich. When he and his friends decided that using high seas piracy to steal aid money that they viewed as "stolen" from wealthy taxpayers, it is important to note that they were not wealthy taxpayers. They had absolutely zero claim to the money that they were "liberating". They were plainly criminals. Not only did they not have any claim to the money they stole, their whole "Robin Hood" justification is laid bare by the fact that they kept the money for themselves and their group. They made no effort to return that money to they people who actually paid the taxes, except as the occasional bribe to get people to join their cult. They were really no different from the SLA knocking over banks. Galt's group were quite literally the real looters in the story.
2014-01-12 08:06:09 PM
2 votes:
Guess I'm in this category. Prime earning years but I've bowed out of the labor market. It's not because of taxes, it's because companies treat tech worker like crap and if you want a "but government" cause, the government is constantly trying to replace me with H1B holders. No thanks. I can live a long time on my savings, though a much simpler and less consumption based one. If Corporate America wants people like me, they're going to have to start treating us like humans and not like an expense that is company enemy number one.

/Seriously, when you're on the 9-6 Monday-Friday (or more accurately 9-9 Sunday-Saturday) treadmill, you end up spending money on lots of convenience goods and services that are expensive and easy to take care of on your own when you have lots of free time.
2014-01-12 08:05:00 PM
2 votes:

Mjeck: You don't even know my belief...



It appears that you believe in making vague sweeping statements so you can insult the people who don't successfully read your mind.
2014-01-12 07:08:24 PM
2 votes:

Mjeck: i literally found


No, you didn't. Literal means it happened exactly as it is described. You figuratively found it. You are making a comparison, not asserting that you actually found a PR agent oh Jesus Christ I managed to avoid a politics argument but grammar trolling went straight up my ass into my ragebrain. Well played.
2014-01-12 06:58:08 PM
2 votes:

rebelyell2006: Here's the answer: Try to be a better liberal and stop judging yourself against your response to the right

Did you have another stroke?


I'm sorry, I've completely lost track of this conversation. Which one is the feigned farkwit and which one if the guy feeding the feigning farkwit's ego? I really can't tell.

/You or the other guy are playing ping-pong with balls made of stupid and nothing.
2014-01-12 06:58:01 PM
2 votes:

Mjeck: To be as sincere as possible; I'm looking at the data, people are dropping out;


Except they are not, the source has already been discredited, the U6 is well-known to be going down, and the folk not covered by the U6 are either retired or dead, so their involvement or lack thereof needs some brand of explanation as to why it counts.

Are you saying all those retirees are going to be a problem in the country?

Libs are engaging the dichotomy

This term is too vague to have any meaning, since you are labeling the "libtards" and telling us what "they" think why don't you explain what "The Dichotomy" is instead of just saying those words?  What dichotomy?
 rather than fixing or discussing the issue

"
The issue" being...unemployment?  Well "The Libs" have already engaged that problem with limited success, the Republicans are countering by repeatedly sabotaging recovery efforts and lying about any successes.
2014-01-12 06:44:54 PM
2 votes:

brantgoose: My guess is that if a real-life John Galt went on strike, nobody would notice him not doing whatever the hell it is he does. One, it is not billionaires who make jobs. Jobs are made by small and medum sized businesses--real entrepreneurs, not bankers, hedge funders, speculators, kleptocrats, vultures, etc.


Interestingly, Galt was supposed to be an engineer ("and philosopher" *eyeroll*) so his inventions *would* create things and be missed, but no one would notice him "not doing anything" because technological advancement doesn't have a dependable or plottable "track" like production on an assembly line does.  But the bigger problem is he was Superman.  John Galt and his merry band of inventors weren't just smart techs, the things they were creating were the trappings of a post-scarcity society, a world where supply is infinite and traditional supply and demand cannot exist.  And he did this on his lonesome, which doesn't work in the real world, because he was just better in every possible way.

John Galt was inherently an inhuman being, and the ethical positions regarding him were likewise outside of humanity.

The big money does not make jobs. The big money destroys jobs to pump up their bottom lines, to pay a dividend, and to make themselves look good with shareholders who don't know or care about the real world or Main Street, but only dividends or share prices.

An oversimplification, but still mostly accurate.  Here:

i75.photobucket.com

Now think for a minute, Human behavior is economic behavior, ALL human behavior.  Think back to the time before we had the word "economics", we still had property, we still had power, we still had money even if it was measured in beaver pelts.  And just because something is illegal or without laws does not mean it is not "economic" in nature.  When someone exploits the Wide-screen television resource that is available in your living room and trades it to a drug dealer for a desired commodity which he may choose to consume or re-sell, he is actually just practicing TRULY free-market economics.

He's also stealing your TV and selling it for smack, but that doesn't sound very pseudoscientific.

And when someone swore allegiance to his chief, to fight and die at his command, or when someone trades their physical labor for the spiritual currency of whatever religion they believe in that too can be described in economic terms.

And to bring it around, the kings and warlords and slavemasters of old, who owned monopolies on land, military force, and even people did not descend from on high by the will of the gods, they were just successful, better-than-average Galtic Alphas who rose above the common masses, gained ownership of everything they could by whatever means they could, and passed their properties on to their descendants.

And the only difference between the law that says the king owns you as a serf and the law that says the CEO owns everything EXCEPT you is that the king was more likely to care about your health and well-being.  Either way they still decide if you have dinner or starve.
2014-01-12 06:33:02 PM
2 votes:

fusillade762: Account created: 2005-03-25

Goddamn sleeper trolls.


Once again, an old account not seen in years suddenly pops up and starts posting all over the joint, making inflammatory right wing comments.  Again.  It's almost like it's a pattern often seen here on Fark.

A paranoid feller might think Fark admins and mods were using dormant accounts to flame up arguments and boost post counts and pageviews, but a rational feller would know that Fark admins and mods would never stoop to such a thing, no sir.
2014-01-12 06:16:31 PM
2 votes:
You guys are so stupid that you disagree with me.

Nope, not gonna explain what it is I believe or how you are disagreeing, nor will I provide any backup for my non-assertions.  That would just start up the PR machine, and I'm way too smart for you guys.  The data to support my assertions, whatever they might be, is out there.  Study it out.
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-01-12 06:11:59 PM
2 votes:

Mjeck: To be as sincere as possible; I'm looking at the data, people are dropping out; Libs are engaging the dichotomy rather than fixing or discussing the issue


Blaming "libs" doesn't cut it here.  "Liberals" are kissing corporate ass, but the conservatives are doing the same thing and are proud of it.  Our lobbyist and corporate campaign systems are drowning out any normal person's voice no matter what party you are talking about.
2014-01-12 06:11:52 PM
2 votes:

Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice

You're so scared of progress and the 21st century that you compare America to a sinking ship?

Lol, you just introduced socialized health care, 60 years after every other 1st world country...and I'm behind the times?! .... Nice

America does not have socialized medicine. But you did not address my post.

Too address your post, yes, America is a sinking ship

Explain yourself.

Huh? So you can start the PR machine? ...can read the data, bro?

No. I just want to know what makes your head tick, why you hold such a silly belief.

You don't even know my belief...

You said it yourself, "America is a sinking ship". Why do you hold such a silly belief?

To be as sincere as possible; I'm looking at the data, people are dropping out; Libs are engaging the dichotomy rather than fixing or discussing the issue


There was literally nothing sincere about that string of deliberately obtuse gobbledygoop.
2014-01-12 05:57:50 PM
2 votes:

Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice

You're so scared of progress and the 21st century that you compare America to a sinking ship?

Lol, you just introduced socialized health care, 60 years after every other 1st world country...and I'm behind the times?! .... Nice

America does not have socialized medicine. But you did not address my post.

Too address your post, yes, America is a sinking ship

Explain yourself.

Huh? So you can start the PR machine? ...can read the data, bro?

No. I just want to know what makes your head tick, why you hold such a silly belief.

You don't even know my belief...


You said it yourself, "America is a sinking ship". Why do you hold such a silly belief?
2014-01-12 05:36:37 PM
2 votes:

Verrai: DarkSoulNoHope: Omahawg: [s.lnimg.com image 768x1024]

Anyway I can vote for that picture for "SCARY!"?!

[img.fark.net image 768x1024]

It's a real place in Omaha, Nebraska. Amusingly, it looks like a pretty low-rent office park.

https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m4!1m3!1d5667!2d-96.0869 52 2!3d41.2092447


I figured that, I just mean of all things an election machine company (Diebold is most likely just as evil, if not more so) would willingly be in an office park that has them on a street called John Galt Boulevard. It makes you think about the psyche of the executives of that company and what they would and could (and possibly have done) do in changing election results to ones that the execs like if they could get away with it.
2014-01-12 05:14:22 PM
2 votes:
This is rapidly approaching a a pre-revolutionary condition, but not for a revolution many of us would want to undergo.  To avoid it, a massive change must occur at the federal level.  But Barack Obama, mired in a dead ideology, doesn't seem prepared to do anything but prolong the situation with highly  conventional liberal solutions that have failed for decades, maybe even centuries.

The guy who wrote this represents everything that is wrong with America.  He should be ashamed to look at himself in the mirror in the morning.
2014-01-12 05:09:00 PM
2 votes:
So to reiterate the author's question: if those 90 million people have "abandoned the workforce" what ARE they doing? Does he REALLY believe there are now 90 million panhandlers, whores and welfare moochers lying around the nation no longer even trying to find work?

And if so, who are they? WHERE are they? There are still lots of jobs out there, why aren't some of those 90 million applying?
2014-01-12 05:01:54 PM
2 votes:
Pretty obvious what's going on with the labor participation rate, baby boomers are retiring.  The reason they are able to retire of course is because the Obama bull market inflated their retirement savings enough so they can afford to retire.  Thanks a lot D0wBama!
2014-01-12 04:56:35 PM
2 votes:

MontanaDave: qorkfiend: brantgoose: MadCat221: Who Is John Galt?

John Galt is the personification of a social, economic, and political philosophy that is unsustainable in real life.

You know, like Karl Marx or Jesus Christ.

I dunno... "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" will take you quite a ways.

That idea predates Jesus by a long shot.


I said it was Jesus' philosophy, not that he was the originator.
2014-01-12 04:49:16 PM
2 votes:
Wait people have actually finished an ayn rand book? Last I tries I got like 12 pages in before I wanted to end my life...
2014-01-12 04:31:42 PM
2 votes:

brantgoose: MadCat221: Who Is John Galt?

John Galt is the personification of a social, economic, and political philosophy that is unsustainable in real life.

You know, like Karl Marx or Jesus Christ.


I dunno... "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" will take you quite a ways.
2014-01-12 04:21:42 PM
2 votes:

Mjeck: 1. Republutard creates straw-man argument
2. Libtards strike down strawman with shiat sandwich
3. Nothing of importance is learned


Shine on you crazy PR men



It's nice that you've found a way to feel superior to both sides.
2014-01-12 04:11:51 PM
2 votes:
"As you can clearly see, when we use different numbers, the numbers are different."
2014-01-12 04:07:30 PM
2 votes:
Where do these people even come up with this sh*t?
2014-01-12 01:53:57 PM
2 votes:

vudukungfu: Who is John Galt?


He is like Santa Claus for libertarians, only the opposite.
2014-01-13 09:49:33 PM
1 votes:

EngineerAU: While she is no Melville, she's not a "it was a dark and stormy night" author either.


Her problem was severe diarrhea of the pen. She would say in 4000 words what most writes could say in 50. And then she repeated those same 4000 words, over and over again, in the speeches of many of her characters (none of them talk -- they lecture, for tedious pages), for 1200 god damn pages.

It's like she had such a low opinion of her readers' intelligence that they wouldn't be able to grasp the thesis "The rich and powerful earned and deserve everything and therefore they are free to act like self-righteous assholes" (and let's be realistic: The rich and powerful don't need a how-to manual) so she had to hammer them over the head with it again and again, dripping it in flowery purple prose. Benefited from an editor? That's an understatement: Atlas Shrugged is a 5 page philosophical essay stretched into a 300 page plot surrounded by 900 additional pages of bombastic prose.

Compare her to a similar political writer in her day, George Orwell. Read 1984 and Atlas Shrugged. Notice how Orwell can put more ideas, more persuasive punch, and more thoughtful rhetoric into a single paragraph than Rand can in any of her characters' 10+ page monologues.
2014-01-13 09:07:33 PM
1 votes:

thomas666: Fark Ayn Rand...she was a fascist pervert...sexually speaking too. She cheated on her husband for years. Oh yeah the moral party in the US, the GOP, doesn't care when their idols are perverts...Fark her and them...


It was fun to watch Paul Ryan squirm when someone informed him that his idol, Ms. Rand, was strongly anti-religious. Also made it obvious that he didn't read very much of her work. Like so many other Palin-esque faux intellectuals, he's lived in a world where he has been surrounded by the easily impressed.

Ishkur: Because Melville and Hugo aren't terrible writers for one thing


Other than her Objectivist journals/magazine/newsletters/napkin doodles, I've read most of Ayn Rand's writings. While she is no Melville, she's not a "it was a dark and stormy night" author either. It can be difficult to separate the dislike of her philosophy from that of her writing. She would have benefited greatly from a good editor who could have condensed down her novels and at the same time kept in some of material she cut out that made some characters, especially Howard Roark, more rounded. Her short stories are actually fun to read probably because she's not repeating herself over and over again trying to push the same point. Of course tastes vary and if you don't like O.Henry, you probably won't like her stories either. Nothing wrong with that but you might be surprised.
2014-01-13 08:21:50 PM
1 votes:

MJMaloney187: Atlas Shrugged is no better or worse than Moby Dick or Les Miserables. So why don't people hate Melville or Hugo?


Because Melville and Hugo aren't terrible writers for one thing, and none of their works simplified a complex network of economic theories, ideas, practices and human motives and constructed a mono-dimensional faux-reality as a vehicle to push their pulp then filled it full of cardboard cutout characters and mary sue ubermensches who don't talk but lecture for tedious pages about why the rich and powerful have divine right to being rich and powerful, and then have things play out exactly the way their philosophy says it will because they're the authors and they control the farking outcome. In clear violation of every standard of ethics, politics, economics, reality, life, human nature, philosophy, and farking national train corporation management. It's dishonest, and it's wrong.
2014-01-13 10:20:45 AM
1 votes:
You gotta hand it to Pajamas Media. They...still exist.
2014-01-13 08:58:17 AM
1 votes:

Orange-Pippin: Doktor_Zhivago: Wait people have actually finished an ayn rand book? Last I tries I got like 12 pages in before I wanted to end my life...

Thank you. From a literary standpoint it's the most boring, ignorant, piece of tripe I have ever had the misfortune of picking up. As for Galt not being a fascist-rich-Superman, I would argue instead that he was a horrible human being that spent half the book arguing rational selfishness (rational egoism). Everything that Jesus, Ghandi, the current Pope or anyone with an actual soul argued against. How this makes him a "hero" to the GoP I will never know...wait a minute...


Ayn Rand never heard of the tragedy of the commons.
2014-01-12 09:15:59 PM
1 votes:

MJMaloney187: Rand wrote Atlas Shrugged in the 1950s. It should be comforting to know that politics never changes; it'll always be Working Man vs. Regulatory Man.


No, it's never been like that at all. Ever. Throughout history.
2014-01-12 08:44:45 PM
1 votes:

rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice

You're so scared of progress and the 21st century that you compare America to a sinking ship?

Lol, you just introduced socialized health care, 60 years after every other 1st world country...and I'm behind the times?! .... Nice

America does not have socialized medicine. But you did not address my post.

Too address your post, yes, America is a sinking ship

Explain yourself.

Huh? So you can start the PR machine? ...can read the data, bro?

No. I just want to know what makes your head tick, why you hold such a silly belief.

You don't even know my belief...

You said it yourself, "America is a sinking ship". Why do you hold such a silly belief?

To be as sincere as possible; I'm looking at the data, people are dropping out; Libs are engaging the dichotomy rather than fixing or discussing the issue

So you have silly beliefs and you are making nonsensical statements. Did you have a stroke? I am fairly certain we are discussing an issue in this thread, but perhaps not the issue that you are wanting to discuss. What issue are you specifically talking about?

you are repeating yourself

Well, I have to ask the same questions multiple times because you won't answer them. Why are you avoiding the conversation?

I answered the question sincerely; I was reprimanded for speaking gobbley-gook; I'm telling you that unless I'm a libertarian or a right-wing nutjob, you are at a loss for an answer

Only because you won't provide one. Stop avoiding the conversation.

Here's the answer: Try to be a better liberal and stop judging yourself against your response to the right

Did you have another stroke?

yep...  can't converse unless it fits your narrative.....

I cannot have a conversation when all you post are pithy nonsensical statements.


SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP!
Jesus TittyFarking Christ y'all are acting like a bunch of godamn children! Please, do shut up. We're all tired of you going back and forth.
2014-01-12 08:39:22 PM
1 votes:
Done in one.
2014-01-12 08:09:06 PM
1 votes:

rebelyell2006: None of that makes any sense. Can you translate it into English?


Good, I'm not the only one who had no clue.
2014-01-12 07:56:03 PM
1 votes:
2014-01-12 07:26:40 PM
1 votes:

Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck


Are you guys capable of quoting portions of replies instead of the whole god damn post? Can you please do that for now on? Your egos are filling up the thread like a three day old diaper.
2014-01-12 07:14:33 PM
1 votes:

Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: TheBigJerk: Mjeck: To be as sincere as possible; I'm looking at the data, people are dropping out;

Except they are not, the source has already been discredited, the U6 is well-known to be going down, and the folk not covered by the U6 are either retired or dead, so their involvement or lack thereof needs some brand of explanation as to why it counts.

Are you saying all those retirees are going to be a problem in the country?

Libs are engaging the dichotomy

This term is too vague to have any meaning, since you are labeling the "libtards" and telling us what "they" think why don't you explain what "The Dichotomy" is instead of just saying those words?  What dichotomy?
 rather than fixing or discussing the issue

"The issue" being...unemployment?  Well "The Libs" have already engaged that problem with limited success, the Republicans are countering by repeatedly sabotaging recovery efforts and lying about any successes.

I don't care what the Right has said; try to be a better liberal and expect more from yourself; more than defeating the right...an admitted retard

You're signing your posts with "an admitted retard" now? That makes some sense.

can't win argument; start ad hominem  attacks; i literally found the Liberal PR agent I am speaking about....

I cannot win an argument if you won't provide one beyond your silly statement about sinking ships. Provide an argument.

I already provided an argument; BE A BETTER LIBERAL; EXPECT MORE FOR YOURSELF OTHER THAN DEFEATING SOME LIBERTARIAN RIGHTWING NUT JOB....  get it?  nope...probably not; it don't fit your narrative


None of that makes any sense. Can you translate it into English?
2014-01-12 07:09:51 PM
1 votes:

Bloody William: It isn't even an argument!


Yes it is
i1.ytimg.com
2014-01-12 07:08:27 PM
1 votes:

Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: TheBigJerk: Mjeck: To be as sincere as possible; I'm looking at the data, people are dropping out;

Except they are not, the source has already been discredited, the U6 is well-known to be going down, and the folk not covered by the U6 are either retired or dead, so their involvement or lack thereof needs some brand of explanation as to why it counts.

Are you saying all those retirees are going to be a problem in the country?

Libs are engaging the dichotomy

This term is too vague to have any meaning, since you are labeling the "libtards" and telling us what "they" think why don't you explain what "The Dichotomy" is instead of just saying those words?  What dichotomy?
 rather than fixing or discussing the issue

"The issue" being...unemployment?  Well "The Libs" have already engaged that problem with limited success, the Republicans are countering by repeatedly sabotaging recovery efforts and lying about any successes.

I don't care what the Right has said; try to be a better liberal and expect more from yourself; more than defeating the right...an admitted retard

You're signing your posts with "an admitted retard" now? That makes some sense.

can't win argument; start ad hominem  attacks; i literally found the Liberal PR agent I am speaking about....


I cannot win an argument if you won't provide one beyond your silly statement about sinking ships. Provide an argument.
2014-01-12 07:06:14 PM
1 votes:

Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice

You're so scared of progress and the 21st century that you compare America to a sinking ship?

Lol, you just introduced socialized health care, 60 years after every other 1st world country...and I'm behind the times?! .... Nice

America does not have socialized medicine. But you did not address my post.

Too address your post, yes, America is a sinking ship

Explain yourself.

Huh? So you can start the PR machine? ...can read the data, bro?

No. I just want to know what makes your head tick, why you hold such a silly belief.

You don't even know my belief...

You said it yourself, "America is a sinking ship". Why do you hold such a silly belief?

To be as sincere as possible; I'm looking at the data, people are dropping out; Libs are engaging the dichotomy rather than fixing or discussing the issue

So you have silly beliefs and you are making nonsensical statements. Did you have a stroke? I am fairly certain we are discussing an issue in this thread, but perhaps not the issue that you are wanting to discuss. What issue are you specifically talking about?

you are repeating yourself

Well, I have to ask the same questions multiple times because you won't answer them. Why are you avoiding the conversation?

I answered the question sincerely; I was reprimanded for speaking gobbley-gook; I'm telling you that unless I'm a libertarian or a right-wing nutjob, you are at a loss for an answer

Only because you won't provide one. Stop avoiding the conversation.

Here's the answer: Try to be a better liberal and stop judging yourself against your response to the right

Did you have another stroke?

yep...  can't c ...

educate yourself beyond your own narrative


What narrative are you talking about now? How many different directions are you taking this pseudo-conversation?
2014-01-12 07:05:13 PM
1 votes:

The Lone Gunman: I'm not fully convinced that the author understands what "going Galt" means.


that is ok, he doesn't understand how to use graphs either.

cdn.pjmedia.com
2014-01-12 07:04:46 PM
1 votes:

Mjeck: TheBigJerk: Mjeck: To be as sincere as possible; I'm looking at the data, people are dropping out;

Except they are not, the source has already been discredited, the U6 is well-known to be going down, and the folk not covered by the U6 are either retired or dead, so their involvement or lack thereof needs some brand of explanation as to why it counts.

Are you saying all those retirees are going to be a problem in the country?

Libs are engaging the dichotomy

This term is too vague to have any meaning, since you are labeling the "libtards" and telling us what "they" think why don't you explain what "The Dichotomy" is instead of just saying those words?  What dichotomy?
 rather than fixing or discussing the issue

"The issue" being...unemployment?  Well "The Libs" have already engaged that problem with limited success, the Republicans are countering by repeatedly sabotaging recovery efforts and lying about any successes.

I don't care what the Right has said; try to be a better liberal and expect more from yourself; more than defeating the right...an admitted retard


You're signing your posts with "an admitted retard" now? That makes some sense.
2014-01-12 07:01:41 PM
1 votes:

Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice

You're so scared of progress and the 21st century that you compare America to a sinking ship?

Lol, you just introduced socialized health care, 60 years after every other 1st world country...and I'm behind the times?! .... Nice

America does not have socialized medicine. But you did not address my post.

Too address your post, yes, America is a sinking ship

Explain yourself.

Huh? So you can start the PR machine? ...can read the data, bro?

No. I just want to know what makes your head tick, why you hold such a silly belief.

You don't even know my belief...

You said it yourself, "America is a sinking ship". Why do you hold such a silly belief?

To be as sincere as possible; I'm looking at the data, people are dropping out; Libs are engaging the dichotomy rather than fixing or discussing the issue

So you have silly beliefs and you are making nonsensical statements. Did you have a stroke? I am fairly certain we are discussing an issue in this thread, but perhaps not the issue that you are wanting to discuss. What issue are you specifically talking about?

you are repeating yourself

Well, I have to ask the same questions multiple times because you won't answer them. Why are you avoiding the conversation?

I answered the question sincerely; I was reprimanded for speaking gobbley-gook; I'm telling you that unless I'm a libertarian or a right-wing nutjob, you are at a loss for an answer

Only because you won't provide one. Stop avoiding the conversation.

Here's the answer: Try to be a better liberal and stop judging yourself against your response to the right

Did you have another stroke?

yep...  can't converse unless it fits your narrative.....


I cannot have a conversation when all you post are pithy nonsensical statements.
2014-01-12 06:54:21 PM
1 votes:

Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice

You're so scared of progress and the 21st century that you compare America to a sinking ship?

Lol, you just introduced socialized health care, 60 years after every other 1st world country...and I'm behind the times?! .... Nice

America does not have socialized medicine. But you did not address my post.

Too address your post, yes, America is a sinking ship

Explain yourself.

Huh? So you can start the PR machine? ...can read the data, bro?

No. I just want to know what makes your head tick, why you hold such a silly belief.

You don't even know my belief...

You said it yourself, "America is a sinking ship". Why do you hold such a silly belief?

To be as sincere as possible; I'm looking at the data, people are dropping out; Libs are engaging the dichotomy rather than fixing or discussing the issue

So you have silly beliefs and you are making nonsensical statements. Did you have a stroke? I am fairly certain we are discussing an issue in this thread, but perhaps not the issue that you are wanting to discuss. What issue are you specifically talking about?

you are repeating yourself

Well, I have to ask the same questions multiple times because you won't answer them. Why are you avoiding the conversation?

I answered the question sincerely; I was reprimanded for speaking gobbley-gook; I'm telling you that unless I'm a libertarian or a right-wing nutjob, you are at a loss for an answer

Only because you won't provide one. Stop avoiding the conversation.

Here's the answer: Try to be a better liberal and stop judging yourself against your response to the right


Did you have another stroke?
2014-01-12 06:48:59 PM
1 votes:

Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice

You're so scared of progress and the 21st century that you compare America to a sinking ship?

Lol, you just introduced socialized health care, 60 years after every other 1st world country...and I'm behind the times?! .... Nice

America does not have socialized medicine. But you did not address my post.

Too address your post, yes, America is a sinking ship

Explain yourself.

Huh? So you can start the PR machine? ...can read the data, bro?

No. I just want to know what makes your head tick, why you hold such a silly belief.

You don't even know my belief...

You said it yourself, "America is a sinking ship". Why do you hold such a silly belief?

To be as sincere as possible; I'm looking at the data, people are dropping out; Libs are engaging the dichotomy rather than fixing or discussing the issue

So you have silly beliefs and you are making nonsensical statements. Did you have a stroke? I am fairly certain we are discussing an issue in this thread, but perhaps not the issue that you are wanting to discuss. What issue are you specifically talking about?

you are repeating yourself

Well, I have to ask the same questions multiple times because you won't answer them. Why are you avoiding the conversation?

I answered the question sincerely; I was reprimanded for speaking gobbley-gook; I'm telling you that unless I'm a libertarian or a right-wing nutjob, you are at a loss for an answer


Only because you won't provide one. Stop avoiding the conversation.
2014-01-12 06:43:08 PM
1 votes:

Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice

You're so scared of progress and the 21st century that you compare America to a sinking ship?

Lol, you just introduced socialized health care, 60 years after every other 1st world country...and I'm behind the times?! .... Nice

America does not have socialized medicine. But you did not address my post.

Too address your post, yes, America is a sinking ship

Explain yourself.

Huh? So you can start the PR machine? ...can read the data, bro?

No. I just want to know what makes your head tick, why you hold such a silly belief.

You don't even know my belief...

You said it yourself, "America is a sinking ship". Why do you hold such a silly belief?

To be as sincere as possible; I'm looking at the data, people are dropping out; Libs are engaging the dichotomy rather than fixing or discussing the issue

So you have silly beliefs and you are making nonsensical statements. Did you have a stroke? I am fairly certain we are discussing an issue in this thread, but perhaps not the issue that you are wanting to discuss. What issue are you specifically talking about?

you are repeating yourself


Well, I have to ask the same questions multiple times because you won't answer them. Why are you avoiding the conversation?
2014-01-12 06:26:50 PM
1 votes:

Mjeck: theknuckler_33: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: Too address your post, yes, America is a sinking ship

Explain yourself.

Huh? So you can start the PR machine? ...can read the data, bro?

No. I just want to know what makes your head tick, why you hold such a silly belief.

You don't even know my belief...

You said it yourself, "America is a sinking ship". Why do you hold such a silly belief?

To be as sincere as possible; I'm looking at the data, people are dropping out; Libs are engaging the dichotomy rather than fixing or discussing the issue

There was literally nothing sincere about that string of deliberately obtuse gobbledygoop.

yep. redefine the convo; nice strategy...


Convo? You've basically just said that America is 'sinking', used the term 'libtards', and called the ACA socialized medicine. That's not a conversation, that's a bunch of right-wing nonsense... but you claim not to hate the ACA and that you want Fark libs to be better libs... again without explaining what that is supposed to mean.

This is not a conversation.
2014-01-12 06:26:40 PM
1 votes:

Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice

You're so scared of progress and the 21st century that you compare America to a sinking ship?

Lol, you just introduced socialized health care, 60 years after every other 1st world country...and I'm behind the times?! .... Nice

America does not have socialized medicine. But you did not address my post.

Too address your post, yes, America is a sinking ship

Explain yourself.

Huh? So you can start the PR machine? ...can read the data, bro?

No. I just want to know what makes your head tick, why you hold such a silly belief.

You don't even know my belief...

You said it yourself, "America is a sinking ship". Why do you hold such a silly belief?

To be as sincere as possible; I'm looking at the data, people are dropping out; Libs are engaging the dichotomy rather than fixing or discussing the issue


So you have silly beliefs and you are making nonsensical statements. Did you have a stroke? I am fairly certain we are discussing an issue in this thread, but perhaps not the issue that you are wanting to discuss. What issue are you specifically talking about?
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-01-12 06:06:07 PM
1 votes:

BMFPitt: rebelyell2006: America does not have socialized medicine.

We have one of the most expensive socialized healthcare systems in the world.  Two, actually.  Is just that ours only cover a small fraction of the population.

[www.washingtonpost.com image 583x620]


but that money is going to make someone rich!  Much better.
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-01-12 06:05:24 PM
1 votes:

rebelyell2006: You said it yourself, "America is a sinking ship". Why do you hold such a silly belief?


How is it silly?  Our culture looks more and like feudalism every day with "corporate executives" taking the place of royalty.
2014-01-12 06:02:23 PM
1 votes:

rebelyell2006: America does not have socialized medicine.


We have one of the most expensive socialized healthcare systems in the world.  Two, actually.  Is just that ours only cover a small fraction of the population.

www.washingtonpost.com
2014-01-12 05:55:30 PM
1 votes:

Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice

You're so scared of progress and the 21st century that you compare America to a sinking ship?

Lol, you just introduced socialized health care, 60 years after every other 1st world country...and I'm behind the times?! .... Nice

America does not have socialized medicine. But you did not address my post.

Too address your post, yes, America is a sinking ship

Explain yourself.

Huh? So you can start the PR machine? ...can read the data, bro?


No. I just want to know what makes your head tick, why you hold such a silly belief.
2014-01-12 05:54:19 PM
1 votes:
You guys know that ayn rand had a massive daddy complex and hated the communist state for steal their families pharmaceutical business right?
2014-01-12 05:49:48 PM
1 votes:

Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: rebelyell2006: Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice

You're so scared of progress and the 21st century that you compare America to a sinking ship?

Lol, you just introduced socialized health care, 60 years after every other 1st world country...and I'm behind the times?! .... Nice

America does not have socialized medicine. But you did not address my post.

Too address your post, yes, America is a sinking ship


Explain yourself.
2014-01-12 05:42:34 PM
1 votes:
There's a lot more, of course.  But the point now is to realize that when you have nearly 92 million people deserting the labor force in a country of 317 million (many of who are children too young to work), you have a catastrophic problem on your hands.

And finally, let's do away forever with the silly unemployment statistic (as in today's 6.7% unemployed).  It has no relevance to anything and is a form of disinformation.  The labor participation rate is the true story.


Did this guy get a degree in RIAA/MPAA Economics?

"You can say the Unemployed rate is 6.7%, but if count children too young to work, seniors too old to work, the sick, the disabled, the unborn, and any real or fictional person born in the future not currently working, that number is actually 7,000%. Thanks Obama"
2014-01-12 05:27:34 PM
1 votes:

firefly212: Mjeck: Fart_Machine: Mjeck: Let me get this straight;

Libtards on a sinking Titanic, are arguing that the deck chairs are all safely at the stern; therefore the ship ain't sinkin'. ....nice

Create strawman.
Knock it down.
Repeat again in every thread.

You're a boring troll.

What strawman? You don't even know me bro...

I'd say the opposite side is true... the deck chairs are askew, so you morons think the ship is sinking.

For the first time in more than a decade, I can afford to contribute to my own health insurance, mostly because now my tax dollars help to cover me, instead of just going towards the old (Medicare), the poor (Medicaid), the young (CHiP), and federal employees. Ya, there are problems, it took me more than a month to get enrolled, and I had to verify my citizenship 3 times, then send a check to BCBS because apparently this whole wacky online payment thing is far too newfangled for them. That said, on Jan 1st, for the first time in ever, I got all four of my MS drugs in the same month, until then, they had cost more than I actually make in a month... so right now, the conservative "solution" is to scuttle the ship, for me to be uninsured again, and hope that maybe you f@#@ers can come up with something more than the NOTHING AT ALL you've come up with since you killed HillaryCare with the idea that the conservatives could craft a better solution. You hate the ACA, fine... come to the grown ups table when you have something better to offer, until then, don't expect us to fall for the same damn trick twice.


Don't hate the ACA, but keep trying
2014-01-12 05:20:04 PM
1 votes:

firefly212: ip, for me to be uninsured again, and hope that maybe you f@#@ers can come up with something more than the NOTHING AT ALL you've come up with since you killed HillaryCare with the idea that the conservatives could craft a better solution. You hate the ACA, fine... come to the grown ups table when you have something better to offer, until then, don't expect us to fall for the same damn trick twice.


ACA IS what they came up with.
NFA [TotalFark]
2014-01-12 05:15:42 PM
1 votes:
America's welfare recipients (those scamming the system) are all followers of the Ayn Rand philosophies whether they know it or not.

Ayn Rand's objectivism states that all your actions should be for personal benefit.  If you aren't selfish and self serving then you deserve nothing.  So when people scam the system and greedily get a check while spending their days doing what they want when they want to do it, are all serving the philosophy very well.  When they think only about themselves and say fark America, "I'm getting mine", they're objectivists.

The only difference is that they aren't billionaires, they're supposed to be the disposable underclass so they gather the ire of the 1%'ers because they're playing the game of the elite and drinking the nation dry for personal gain.
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2014-01-12 05:12:59 PM
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MJMaloney187: Not that you would know because you obviously didn't read the book, but John Galt was a laborer for the Taggart Transcontinental railroad company. He invented an engine that ran on atmospheric static electricity, then abandoned it. He was not a billionaire and he certainly wasn't a "facist-superman".


If he wasn't rich he must have been a loser, or at least in Rand wet dream land he would be.
2014-01-12 05:10:03 PM
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Doktor_Zhivago: Wait people have actually finished an ayn rand book? Last I tries I got like 12 pages in before I wanted to end my life...


Anthem is only 128 pages and not a bad read.  But The Fountainhead, i only got as far as the rape scene and never tried to read Atlas Shrugged.
2014-01-12 04:59:32 PM
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PC LOAD LETTER: vudukungfu: Who is John Galt?

This guy:



And this guy:


This guy:



And of course these people as well:


Clearly, we are about to see a New Age of Greatness


Anyone else kind of hoping for a revolution just so we can kill the idiots. And burn down Wall Street? And loot?
2014-01-12 04:36:13 PM
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Not that any of you would know because you didn't read the book.

John Galt was a badass metal guitarist who devoted his life to his music and his band until one day the record label tried to get him to play a rock ballad.
2014-01-12 04:33:12 PM
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I just started playing the original Bioshock and I am getting a kick out of this.
2014-01-12 04:19:57 PM
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1. Republutard creates straw-man argument
2. Libtards strike down strawman with shiat sandwich
3. Nothing of importance is learned


Shine on you crazy PR men
2014-01-12 04:17:10 PM
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brantgoose: Also, where does that 92 million figure come from? Did he find it between his buttocks?



About fifteen million of those are under the age of twelve.
Lazy little buggers aren't eben bothering to look for work.
2014-01-12 04:09:04 PM
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I stopped reading at Zero Hedge.
Wasn't the old talking point that these folks were lazy and had stopped looking for work because of extended benefits?
2014-01-12 04:01:59 PM
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I'm not fully convinced that the author understands what "going Galt" means.
2014-01-12 02:44:10 PM
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vudukungfu: PC LOAD LETTER: This guy:

he be trollin'


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2014-01-12 01:45:33 PM
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If John Galt went on strike someone else would come up with the idea and market it. And then become very wealthy.
2014-01-12 01:21:53 PM
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Who is John Galt?
 
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