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(Daily Mail)   Not News: Wife sues ex for missing child support payments. News: He did pay, it was a paperwork screw up. Fark: Judge orders him to pay ex's lawyer bill and throws him in jail for refusing   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 26
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2014-01-12 04:00:42 PM
8 votes:

Elegy: I, for one, appreciate Quanell X weighing in on this situation.


I would pay attention. Quanell X is the strongest anti-dandruff shampoo you can buy without a prescription.
2014-01-12 04:27:17 PM
3 votes:
i.imgur.com
2014-01-12 03:57:26 PM
3 votes:
I, for one, appreciate Quanell X weighing in on this situation.
2014-01-12 05:22:29 PM
2 votes:

Weatherkiss: Vector R: thamike: Walking out when you're pissed off at the Judge will not help you in any way, except grant you a temporary reprieve of being angry. But it'll simply make it harder for your lawyers to get the Judge to reconsider the ruling.

Even the judge said that had he not walked out like that, she would have been able to give the case a closer look.  Of course, the Daily Mail sliced that tidbit out of their almost verbatim reposting of a retarded MyFoxHouston blog piece.

Oh no, she was perfectly able to give the case a closer look, she just chose not to because she's a power-tripping coont. Some of us walk away when we get too emotional, and that's probable exactly what happened. Better to go take a breather than tell the judge exactly how much of a man-hating coont she is.

The courtroom is not your parents' house. You can't just pout and walk away and slam the door when your feels get hurt. The courtroom is an instrument of justice, of civil society. If you disrespect the judge, you disrespect the court, you disrespect the institution the country is founded on. You aren't allowed to take a breather unless the judge says you may. You aren't allowed to go to the bathroom unless the judge allows you to.

The system is not perfect, but it's the best one we have. If someone gets screwed over, the only thing they need to do is sit down and shut the fark up until the gavel is brought down and the judge explicitly says that the case/court is dismissed. Yes, it sucks when you get screwed over by the court. Yes, it's normal to feel angry and enraged.

But no, it's not 'better' to go take a breather. He should have put his big boy pants on and waited patiently and calmly to avoid invoking the judge's ire.

That's how civil society works. If you can't be an adult, you get punished like a child.


so, when did you complete your Kolinahr?
2014-01-12 04:24:10 PM
2 votes:
weknowmemes.com
2014-01-12 04:16:47 PM
2 votes:

thamike: Weatherkiss: thamike: TheEdibleSnuggie: Frankly, I'd walk out too if somebody told me I'd be forced to pay my ex's legal fees ON TOP of whatever I just recently doled out in child support payments.

He walked out because he was found in contempt of court.  He was found in contempt for not following court ordered visitation times.  He didn't follow court ordered visitation times because he "didn't know" about them.

And regardless of what you're charged with/convicted on/whatever, you never walk out on a judge in the middle of a hearing. That's not just a social faux pas, it's another count of contempt of court. You never piss off or disrespect the judge no matter how badly you get screwed. Appeals, new trials, etc. are all part of the system and are there to help people who were wrongly convicted, discriminated against, etc., but that's for later, when emotions are cool and your lawyer(s) can work out a strategy.

Walking out when you're pissed off at the Judge will not help you in any way, except grant you a temporary reprieve of being angry. But it'll simply make it harder for your lawyers to get the Judge to reconsider the ruling.

Even the judge said that had he not walked out like that, she would have been able to give the case a closer look.  Of course, the Daily Mail sliced that tidbit out of their almost verbatim reposting of a retarded MyFoxHouston blog piece.


Well he's black and in Texas, it's the judge's fault for not taking his skin color into consideration when he blatantly disrespects her and her courtroom by walking out on her. You know how "those people" are when they get angry and emotional, so clearly he deserves a mulligan for being black and in Texas.
2014-01-12 04:05:17 PM
2 votes:

KidneyStone: Elegy: I, for one, appreciate Quanell X weighing in on this situation.

I find the unbiased opinion of anyone named X to be spurious at best.


Especially Professor X. I heard he's a mutant.
2014-01-12 04:01:48 PM
2 votes:

Luse: And for some reason young men are increasingly shunning marriage.


It's a good thing young men don't engage in pre-marital sex that could result in the conception of a child. That whole 'no marriage' thing is a foolproof method of avoiding a situation like this man is in.

I'm pretty sure his 6 month jail sentence was a result of his contempt of court charge, related to not visiting his son as issued by court order at particular times. Whether he was not 'told' about any of this, as he claims is dubious. He's not going to admit he knew and simply did not comply. It's easier to say he was never told to begin with.

But he's on appeal, so even though the court system is claimed to have 'broken down', and the Daily Fail is obviously trying to work the 'miscarriage of justice' angle on this -- the court system is working as intended.

Of course walking out on a judge in her courtroom when issued a contempt of court charge isn't going to win him any favors.

But sure, let's go with the "he's brown in Texas, therefore the system is stacked against him" defense. When it's pretty obvious there's way more to the story than the article lets on.
GBB [TotalFark]
2014-01-12 03:52:26 PM
2 votes:
Is he black?

<clicks link>

www.pnn.dk
2014-01-12 03:47:38 PM
2 votes:
And for some reason young men are increasingly shunning marriage.
2014-01-12 06:38:43 PM
1 votes:

omnimancer28: Just playing devil's advocate here : I would assume that he was warned more than once by his wife, the child support office, and probably his wife's attorney BEFORE they went to the trouble of taking him to court.


I see you are completely unfamiliar with how the family court system works.

Here's a simple rule to figure out if you will be farked by the family court system.  Do you have a penis?
2014-01-12 05:57:16 PM
1 votes:

saturn badger: Luse: And for some reason young men are increasingly shunning marriage.

Not being married does not protect one from child support.


No, but fake names and phone numbers do.
2014-01-12 05:37:54 PM
1 votes:

redmid17: Weatherkiss: The Flexecutioner: thamike: The Flexecutioner: thamike: Vector R: thamike: Walking out when you're pissed off at the Judge will not help you in any way, except grant you a temporary reprieve of being angry. But it'll simply make it harder for your lawyers to get the Judge to reconsider the ruling.

Even the judge said that had he not walked out like that, she would have been able to give the case a closer look.  Of course, the Daily Mail sliced that tidbit out of their almost verbatim reposting of a retarded MyFoxHouston blog piece.

Oh no, she was perfectly able to give the case a closer look, she just chose not to because she's a power-tripping coont. Some of us walk away when we get too emotional, and that's probable exactly what happened. Better to go take a breather than tell the judge exactly how much of a man-hating coont she is.

Yeah, well, that's not how court works.  That's not even how elementary school works.

correct.  courts and elementary schools absolutely do not operate on logic.

Yes, not being rewarded for storming out of either completely f*cking defies logic.

no, being punished does not equal being rewarded.  and no, he did not STORM out.  that's just you trying to inflammatorily make your illogical case that he somehow deserves 6 months in jail for bruising her fragile ego.

Whether he saunters out gently and puts on sunglasses while saying, "Deal with it.", or he has a vein bulging out of his forehead and he's ready to rip a phone book in half and storms out -- it's leaving the courtroom without being dismissed.

And yes, it is illegal to do that. It has always been illegal to disrespect the courtroom. Judges are known to power trip, but regardless of what kind of woman this judge is -- what he did would have been met the same way no matter what courtroom he was in. Contempt of court.

In civil society, it's agreed upon that a judge rules the court. This is why judges are elected or appointed by other judges who were elected. Because they ar ...

And a six month sentence for contempt of court is kind of like dropping a bomb on a housing complex because the people won't come out to be arrested.


It's true, this judge has no dick.
2014-01-12 05:09:58 PM
1 votes:

thamike: Vector R: thamike: Walking out when you're pissed off at the Judge will not help you in any way, except grant you a temporary reprieve of being angry. But it'll simply make it harder for your lawyers to get the Judge to reconsider the ruling.

Even the judge said that had he not walked out like that, she would have been able to give the case a closer look.  Of course, the Daily Mail sliced that tidbit out of their almost verbatim reposting of a retarded MyFoxHouston blog piece.

Oh no, she was perfectly able to give the case a closer look, she just chose not to because she's a power-tripping coont. Some of us walk away when we get too emotional, and that's probable exactly what happened. Better to go take a breather than tell the judge exactly how much of a man-hating coont she is.

Yeah, well, that's not how court works.  That's not even how elementary school works.


correct.  courts and elementary schools absolutely do not operate on logic.
2014-01-12 05:08:15 PM
1 votes:

Vector R: thamike: Walking out when you're pissed off at the Judge will not help you in any way, except grant you a temporary reprieve of being angry. But it'll simply make it harder for your lawyers to get the Judge to reconsider the ruling.

Even the judge said that had he not walked out like that, she would have been able to give the case a closer look.  Of course, the Daily Mail sliced that tidbit out of their almost verbatim reposting of a retarded MyFoxHouston blog piece.

Oh no, she was perfectly able to give the case a closer look, she just chose not to because she's a power-tripping coont. Some of us walk away when we get too emotional, and that's probable exactly what happened. Better to go take a breather than tell the judge exactly how much of a man-hating coont she is.


Yeah, well, that's not how court works.  That's not even how elementary school works.
2014-01-12 05:01:07 PM
1 votes:

Aigoo: Kooj: Might be worth reading, too:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/childsupport.asp

In particular, the CoC was apparently "for failure to pay child support", and, per the Snopes article:

"(Under Texas law, for an obligor to avoid contempt charges in a child support case, he must be current on all child support obligations at the time of the enforcement hearing, not just those originally pled in the motion to enforce.)"

Still confused... I didn't get the impression that he'd overpaid at all, just that he'd paid the amount owing. Which even Snopes says he had before going to court.

So, if the amount owing is paid in full--which, the reports indicate, and Snopes indicate it was, and the child's mother's attorney testified twice that there was no amount of child support in arrears and Hall was completely current in child support--the contempt charge still doesn't hold water (until he walked out on the judge, at which point a new contempt charge is completely valid... but six months? There are teenaged rapists doing barely more than that in jail. Come the fark on!)


his attorney probably hadn't yet heard of the Affluenza Defense.
2014-01-12 04:54:06 PM
1 votes:

Brostorm: Three cheers for Feminism


yes.  i have provided 3 of the Bronx variety while typing this.
2014-01-12 04:20:57 PM
1 votes:

itsaidwhat: Luse: And for some reason young men are increasingly shunning marriage.

They should be shunning unprotected sex.


With women.
2014-01-12 04:16:57 PM
1 votes:

Luse: And for some reason young men are increasingly shunning marriage.


They should be shunning unprotected sex.
2014-01-12 04:16:29 PM
1 votes:
MusicMakeMyHeadPound:  On a less crazy note, this screws over the mother too. He can't pay child support from jail.

You're joking right?  They'll just ad it to his tab and expect him to write a check 5 minutes after stepping off the prison yard.
2014-01-12 04:15:45 PM
1 votes:
I read the article. All is not as it seems. 1. He didn't pay on time. 2. She had to take legal action

He wants to blame his employer for his not paying on time and correctly.

He only got caught up when he was headed to court.

Sorry Dad. That kid is YOUR responsibility. And not just when it looks like you are headed to court.
2014-01-12 04:10:23 PM
1 votes:

vodka: This has nothing to do with marriage. If you want to stay out of this kind trouble then no pussy for you.


Child support is the dark knight of the gay agenda...

On a less crazy note, this screws over the mother too. He can't pay child support from jail.
2014-01-12 04:06:40 PM
1 votes:
This has nothing to do with marriage. If you want to stay out of this kind trouble then no pussy for you.
2014-01-12 04:04:27 PM
1 votes:
Just playing devil's advocate here : I would assume that he was warned more than once by his wife, the child support office, and probably his wife's attorney BEFORE they went to the trouble of taking him to court.  Had he paid up prior to being dragged in to court (even though the initial error was not his) there would be no reason for him to pay the attorney's fees.  He waited until the court date was set, paid up, and then walked into the court thinking that he was free and clear.  Surprise - the lawyers are still getting paid for having to show up.

Not to mention the fact that he walked out on a judge.  I don't care who you are.  A judge will fark your day up for disrespecting them in their court room.  This is not really about a man getting gamed by the child support system.  It is more about some dumbass who got dragged to court and then pissed in the judge's corn flakes.
2014-01-12 03:58:10 PM
1 votes:

Luse: And for some reason young men are increasingly shunning marriage.


Oldiron_79: THIS


WTF does marriage have to do with child support?

Goddam, there's been a lot of Fail submitted this weekend. Did they start sponsoring again?
gja [TotalFark]
2014-01-12 03:50:11 PM
1 votes:
His fault for being male
/and brown in Texas
 
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