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(Daily Mail)   Not News: Wife sues ex for missing child support payments. News: He did pay, it was a paperwork screw up. Fark: Judge orders him to pay ex's lawyer bill and throws him in jail for refusing   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 239
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2014-01-12 06:59:09 PM  

OgreMagi: I'm fairly certain child support is tax deductible, though alimony is not.


Nope. If it was I would have been golden.
 
2014-01-12 06:59:18 PM  

TheEdibleSnuggie: Joe USer: gja: His fault for being male
/and brown in Texas

I'm betting the contempt of court had something to do with it as well.

Frankly, I'd walk out too if somebody told me I'd be forced to pay my ex's legal fees ON TOP of whatever I just recently doled out in child support payments.

Talk about sticking in the wound.


Oh, that's common. My friend has to pay his ex-wife's lawyer fees everytime she throws a temper tantrum. She's 'unemployed' (works for cash) listing only the alimony and child support as her income. He actually hired a detective to follow her, and tried to get discovery for other bank accounts, but the judge denied it.

/doesn't hurt that the state gets a cut of the monies paid
 
2014-01-12 06:59:49 PM  

redmid17: Some judges will apparently hit you with contempt there too!

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/insulted_in_restroom_texas_ju dg e_holds_court_attendee_69_in_contempt/


FTFA: "It probably wasn't the smartest thing, but it was a (gut) reaction. I guess you have no freedom of speech with a judge."

Clearly the judge was power-tripping because he didn't take the man's emotions into account.
 
2014-01-12 07:00:04 PM  

OgreMagi: fluffy2097: Today I learned Farkers think Alimony is Child Support.


I'm fairly certain child support is tax deductible, though alimony is not.


Nope. I pay child support and it is not a pre-tax deduction, nor is it deductible on the 1040.
If you're very, very lucky you can get the court to let you take the tax deduction, but guess what, if your ex is able to file faster than you are and claims the kid, you're SOL when you go to file. You'll eventually get it fixed with the IRS, but it is a royal pain in the ass.

/There are many things broken in that system
//State farked up and didn't record some payments that were deducted from your check? FARK YOU, PAY US
///They'll increase it at lightning speed if you get a better job, and reduce it at a glacial pace if you get laid off, if they do at all
 
2014-01-12 07:00:08 PM  
If you are a millionaire, stick your wife and children in a modest middle class home with a modest middle class allowance.  That way they can't ream you to pay for that standard of living they have grown accustomed to.
 
2014-01-12 07:02:15 PM  

omnimancer28: Just playing devil's advocate here : I would assume that he was warned more than once by his wife, the child support office, and probably his wife's attorney BEFORE they went to the trouble of taking him to court.  Had he paid up prior to being dragged in to court (even though the initial error was not his) there would be no reason for him to pay the attorney's fees.  He waited until the court date was set, paid up, and then walked into the court thinking that he was free and clear.  Surprise - the lawyers are still getting paid for having to show up.

Not to mention the fact that he walked out on a judge.  I don't care who you are.  A judge will fark your day up for disrespecting them in their court room.  This is not really about a man getting gamed by the child support system.  It is more about some dumbass who got dragged to court and then pissed in the judge's corn flakes.


A judge is supposed to be completely impartial and not have a personal bias,  If a judge cannot do that they should be removed from their position.
 
2014-01-12 07:02:46 PM  

buzzcut73: //State farked up and didn't record some payments that were deducted from your check? FARK YOU, PAY US


I read of some cases where the man got arrested because he didn't make the payments.  Even the ex-wife insisted he made the payments on time, but he was still ran through the system and farked over.  If you are in a state where the payments are processed through the government system, your life can be farked overly royally because some low-level clerk with a hangover didn't check a box.
 
2014-01-12 07:03:41 PM  

itsaidwhat: I read the article. All is not as it seems. 1. He didn't pay on time. 2. She had to take legal action

He wants to blame his employer for his not paying on time and correctly.

He only got caught up when he was headed to court.

Sorry Dad. That kid is YOUR responsibility. And not just when it looks like you are headed to court.


According TFA he DID pay up. It sounds like the terms of his child support were changed without his knowledge. (Unheard of, right?) It was an admin snafu. He was hauled to court because agents of that court screwed up. Then he was ordered to pay the ex's unnecessary legal bills... amazingly. And the judge is pissed cause he's not kissing her arse hard enough.
Anger would be the normal human response here.
 
2014-01-12 07:05:05 PM  

inglixthemad: /doesn't hurt that the state gets a cut of the monies paid


What state is this? The state I live in took the money and gave it all to her.
 
2014-01-12 07:05:53 PM  

Joe USer: gja: His fault for being male
/and brown in Texas

I'm betting the contempt of court had something to do with it as well.


He should have had a free pass on the contempt as he was dragged into that hellhole unnecessarily and asked to do something that is ridiculous. Whoever made the error should be responsible for all the financial results. And the judge should be forced into a sex change, followed by a visit in front of a judge just as idiotic as herself.
 
2014-01-12 07:06:39 PM  

0z79: Snarfangel: Elegy: I, for one, appreciate Quanell X weighing in on this situation.

I would pay attention. Quanell X is the strongest anti-dandruff shampoo you can buy without a prescription.

I don't know why, but I thought this was hilarious! I had to bite my lip to keep from laughing WAAYY too loud.

Kudos.


AgreedX
 
2014-01-12 07:11:22 PM  

Weatherkiss: redmid17: Some judges will apparently hit you with contempt there too!

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/insulted_in_restroom_texas_ju dg e_holds_court_attendee_69_in_contempt/

FTFA: "It probably wasn't the smartest thing, but it was a (gut) reaction. I guess you have no freedom of speech with a judge."

Clearly the judge was power-tripping because he didn't take the man's emotions into account.


Well as soon as someone challenged the judge, the sentence was magically commuted and he was released. I think that's a pretty fair case for power-tripping. Appeals court looks like they didn't seem to fond of that ruling either.
 
2014-01-12 07:12:34 PM  

redmid17: Weatherkiss: redmid17: Some judges will apparently hit you with contempt there too!

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/insulted_in_restroom_texas_ju dg e_holds_court_attendee_69_in_contempt/

FTFA: "It probably wasn't the smartest thing, but it was a (gut) reaction. I guess you have no freedom of speech with a judge."

Clearly the judge was power-tripping because he didn't take the man's emotions into account.

Well as soon as someone challenged the judge, the sentence was magically commuted and he was released. I think that's a pretty fair case for power-tripping. Appeals court looks like they didn't seem to fond of that ruling either.


So the system works since the appeals court did not re-affirm the judge's ruling.
 
2014-01-12 07:13:36 PM  

Weatherkiss: redmid17: Weatherkiss: redmid17: Some judges will apparently hit you with contempt there too!

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/insulted_in_restroom_texas_ju dg e_holds_court_attendee_69_in_contempt/

FTFA: "It probably wasn't the smartest thing, but it was a (gut) reaction. I guess you have no freedom of speech with a judge."

Clearly the judge was power-tripping because he didn't take the man's emotions into account.

Well as soon as someone challenged the judge, the sentence was magically commuted and he was released. I think that's a pretty fair case for power-tripping. Appeals court looks like they didn't seem to fond of that ruling either.

So the system works since the appeals court did not re-affirm the judge's ruling.


The system also cost a man 2 days in prison because a judge was being a dickbag. I don't know about you, but I prefer to spend time outside of jail.
 
2014-01-12 07:15:20 PM  

fluffy2097: Vector R: You aren't allowed to go to the bathroom unless the judge allows you to.

It's court, not first grade.

You ask for a recess in court proceedings like a time out in sports. You don't raise your hand and say "Judge, I gotta go potty."


I do it the adult way, and just go out to the bathroom without making a big fuss over it. This isn't Shawshank. If she wants to be a coont and tell me to hold it (when straining your bladder is unhealthy) then I'll happily piss on the floor and speak with the ACLU if the court wants to cry about it.
 
2014-01-12 07:16:02 PM  

redmid17: Weatherkiss: redmid17: Weatherkiss: redmid17: Some judges will apparently hit you with contempt there too!

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/insulted_in_restroom_texas_ju dg e_holds_court_attendee_69_in_contempt/

FTFA: "It probably wasn't the smartest thing, but it was a (gut) reaction. I guess you have no freedom of speech with a judge."

Clearly the judge was power-tripping because he didn't take the man's emotions into account.

Well as soon as someone challenged the judge, the sentence was magically commuted and he was released. I think that's a pretty fair case for power-tripping. Appeals court looks like they didn't seem to fond of that ruling either.

So the system works since the appeals court did not re-affirm the judge's ruling.

The system also cost a man 2 days in prison because a judge was being a dickbag. I don't know about you, but I prefer to spend time outside of jail.


So the system is imperfect.
 
2014-01-12 07:21:24 PM  

lack of warmth: You got to admit though, not making the other parent child support for extended stays makes sense. The old way made the parent pay twice, child support payments to custodial parent and the actual support of the child during the stay. It almost makes me proud of my state. Now if I could get child support from my stepson's father, I would be right as rain. Canadian prick left the country before the kid was born, with no contact. Irritates me as much as the deadbeat mom's out there not being hunted down by the courts. I have yet to hear of a mom getting busted for back support, when I know of a few who don't pay at all.


It does make sense but that never happened to me. As a working stiff and not having many extended stays it would not have saved me much anyway.

In the end I paid my dues and was able to help raise two wonderful daughters. The big bonus in all this is when it came time for college they were able to use their mothers income to apply for grants. One is on grants now (and also working) and the other, through grants and scholarships, is now on a full paid scholarship in her Ph.D program. It is all legal and on the up and up since they lived with her.

There are benefits to divorce for the kids and dad.

Oh, one more thing... I do get the occasional phone call... dad? I am a bit short this month... so in a way I still pay child support. At least I know where the money goes now. I pay for car insurance for one.

/still paying
//they are supposed to take care of me in my old age
///so they say
 
2014-01-12 07:22:18 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Earl Green: This website.  This community.  This Fark.  How much longer can we be expected to go on without a "Texas" tag?

If we're relying on Mail articles, i.e. articles written based on the fever-dreams of a drunken right-wing moron ineptly trying to craft propaganda, with no relation whatsoever to actual physical reality?

Probably a long time.


I don't usually see "right wing idiots" writing slanted articles to make black people look like they got screwed. I think you got your directions confused.
 
2014-01-12 07:24:57 PM  

buzzcut73: Nope. I pay child support and it is not a pre-tax deduction, nor is it deductible on the 1040.
If you're very, very lucky you can get the court to let you take the tax deduction, but guess what, if your ex is able to file faster than you are and claims the kid, you're SOL when you go to file. You'll eventually get it fixed with the IRS, but it is a royal pain in the ass.


This was a deal I made with the ex. The deductions were mine. I did great with them up until they turned 17. I thought they ran out at 18. Oops! Cost me a lot of money that year. I adjusted for the next year.
 
2014-01-12 07:28:24 PM  

buzzcut73: ///They'll increase it at lightning speed if you get a better job, and reduce it at a glacial pace if you get laid off, if they do at all


Really? Out here is is up to the ex to get it increased. As my income rose the payments never did in the 17 years I paid them. She could have been vindictive but never did.

Guess I was lucky to have an ex that wasn't a real biatch.

/most of the time anyway
 
2014-01-12 07:31:29 PM  

dstrick44: itsaidwhat: I read the article. All is not as it seems. 1. He didn't pay on time. 2. She had to take legal action

He wants to blame his employer for his not paying on time and correctly.

He only got caught up when he was headed to court.

Sorry Dad. That kid is YOUR responsibility. And not just when it looks like you are headed to court.

According TFA he DID pay up. It sounds like the terms of his child support were changed without his knowledge. (Unheard of, right?) It was an admin snafu. He was hauled to court because agents of that court screwed up. Then he was ordered to pay the ex's unnecessary legal bills... amazingly. And the judge is pissed cause he's not kissing her arse hard enough.
Anger would be the normal human response here.


Suggest a re-read. It's his kid, and his responsibility to know the terms, not anyone else's responsibility to make sure he knows. He's a slacker and wouldn't be in court if he was taking proper care of his kid.

I don't think six months of jail is the answer, unless the judge knows he won't actually serve it and it's only being used for effect. Which it clearly is having. And not just on him.

Look, either he pays or the rest of us pay. I vote that he pays.
 
2014-01-12 07:31:45 PM  
He can play this:

www.bizpacreview.com
Or turn in this:
 
2014-01-12 07:32:22 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-12 07:33:25 PM  

saturn badger: buzzcut73: Nope. I pay child support and it is not a pre-tax deduction, nor is it deductible on the 1040.
If you're very, very lucky you can get the court to let you take the tax deduction, but guess what, if your ex is able to file faster than you are and claims the kid, you're SOL when you go to file. You'll eventually get it fixed with the IRS, but it is a royal pain in the ass.

This was a deal I made with the ex. The deductions were mine. I did great with them up until they turned 17. I thought they ran out at 18. Oops! Cost me a lot of money that year. I adjusted for the next year.


Yeah, the ex and I had the same deal, she just decided she didn't like it anymore and instead of trying to get something changed, she just started filing before I did for the last 3 years. She knew that due to the nature of the work I was doing at the time that I wouldn't see a W-2 until long after her return was filed.

Once I got back to the real world and filed amended returns with the IRS with all supporting paperwork, I got my money back. I guess the IRS went after her for the refunds she collected but wasn't entitled to and made her life a little difficult for a while, which was nice to hear.
 
2014-01-12 07:54:08 PM  

Tillmaster: A female judge. Colour me surprised.


A white female judge in *Texas* with a black defendant.

Color me rven more shocked.
 
2014-01-12 07:57:02 PM  

OgreMagi: fluffy2097: Today I learned Farkers think Alimony is Child Support.

Today I taught Farkers that Alimony is not child support, but adult support.

/They are similar though, both can cost you 50% of your yearly pre-tax income as a man.
//Better pray to your god your divorce is amicable if you are a man. Prenuptial agreements have already been voided by divorce courts.

I'm fairly certain child support is tax deductible, though alimony is not.


You are incorrect. Child support is not tax deductible. Alimony is.
 
2014-01-12 08:02:20 PM  

Luse: And for some reason young men are increasingly shunning marriage.


Yet they are not shunning farking which is the real reason a child was produced and thus the support needed
 
2014-01-12 08:15:52 PM  

Enormous-Schwanstucker: Q: What's the difference between the judge in question and her ruling?

A: The ruling was a cunning stunt.


As opposed to a stunning coont?
 
2014-01-12 08:19:36 PM  

OgreMagi: fluffy2097: Today I learned Farkers think Alimony is Child Support.

Today I taught Farkers that Alimony is not child support, but adult support.

/They are similar though, both can cost you 50% of your yearly pre-tax income as a man.
//Better pray to your god your divorce is amicable if you are a man. Prenuptial agreements have already been voided by divorce courts.

I'm fairly certain child support is tax deductible, though alimony is not.


Generally, child support is *not* tax deductible, though spousal support *is*.  The theory I guess being that you'd have to pay that money anyway for upkeep of the children, but the ex-biatch is an adult, and *could* work if she'd get off her fat, bonbon-eating ass, and actually *use* the pharmacy tech education you paid for in the year before you split up....wait, I'm drifting of track, where were we?

Oh yes.  So, spousal support is tax deductible.  Unless there are notional arrears, in which case, spousal isn't tax deductible.  If there are notional arrears, then, well, you're farked forever.  Or you engage in a long, hard, expensive court process to get them expunged because they weren't legitimate to begin with.  Oh fark, I'm drifting off-track again.


/my ex is a fat, lazy biatch.  Send her just over 50% of my net income every month.  That's not enough, apparently.
 
2014-01-12 08:20:01 PM  
t3.gstatic.com
/Christian Nation
 
2014-01-12 08:20:45 PM  
Sounds to me like this guy didn't get the correct amount held out of his paycheck yet he did nothing about it.  It may not be his fault, but he is responsible for making sure the correct payments are being made.  The mother was not getting her child support so she had to hire a lawyer.  Then, knowing there was going to be a hearing, the father suddenly decided to correct the "mistakes".  So, yes, he is responsible for paying the mother's lawyer.

But, by all means, continue to think society is anti-male
 
2014-01-12 08:20:52 PM  

fluffy2097: redmid17: Sex without a condom feels way better than sex with a condom. It probably doesn't feel better than not having to dole out a bunch for child support.

Which is why you never let the girl get your real name or number, and you always go back to her place. Then if she gets pregnant, she can't find you.

/Not really


Make sure to impregnate only homeless women. what, like they have the resources to find you, other than an empty day?
 
2014-01-12 08:27:12 PM  

RedVentrue: Enormous-Schwanstucker: Q: What's the difference between the judge in question and her ruling?

A: The ruling was a cunning stunt.

As opposed to a stunning coont?


That was the implied joke :)
 
2014-01-12 08:34:04 PM  
If nothing else this proves that judges have way too much power.  fark judges.  Respect is to be earned, not given.  You've done x to become a judge, I've done y to get to where I am, why does your x carry more weight than my y?
 
2014-01-12 08:36:41 PM  

Watubi: Sounds to me like this guy didn't get the correct amount held out of his paycheck yet he did nothing about it. It may not be his fault, but he is responsible for making sure the correct payments are being made. The mother was not getting her child support so she had to hire a lawyer. Then, knowing there was going to be a hearing, the father suddenly decided to correct the "mistakes". So, yes, he is responsible for paying the mother's lawyer.

But, by all means, continue to think society is anti-male


If that mistake was him over-paying, would he get the money back?
 
2014-01-12 08:44:18 PM  

weltallica: [www.madmaxz.com image 620x350]
Only yourselves to blame, ladies.


Bwaahahahahaahahaaaaa. Yeah, he looks like a great catch.
 
2014-01-12 08:45:05 PM  

patchvonbraun: OgreMagi: fluffy2097: Today I learned Farkers think Alimony is Child Support.

Today I taught Farkers that Alimony is not child support, but adult support.

/They are similar though, both can cost you 50% of your yearly pre-tax income as a man.
//Better pray to your god your divorce is amicable if you are a man. Prenuptial agreements have already been voided by divorce courts.

I'm fairly certain child support is tax deductible, though alimony is not.

Generally, child support is *not* tax deductible, though spousal support *is*.  The theory I guess being that you'd have to pay that money anyway for upkeep of the children, but the ex-biatch is an adult, and *could* work if she'd get off her fat, bonbon-eating ass, and actually *use* the pharmacy tech education you paid for in the year before you split up....wait, I'm drifting of track, where were we?

Oh yes.  So, spousal support is tax deductible.  Unless there are notional arrears, in which case, spousal isn't tax deductible.  If there are notional arrears, then, well, you're farked forever.  Or you engage in a long, hard, expensive court process to get them expunged because they weren't legitimate to begin with.  Oh fark, I'm drifting off-track again.


/my ex is a fat, lazy biatch.  Send her just over 50% of my net income every month.  That's not enough, apparently.



Just a few questins

How many children does your ex wife have?
 
2014-01-12 08:55:29 PM  

mjbok: If that mistake was him over-paying, would he get the money back?


In my state yep. They pulled a months payment that was over the line and I got my money back.
 
2014-01-12 08:56:31 PM  

Aigoo: So, if the amount owing is paid in full--which, the reports indicate, and Snopes indicate it was, and the child's mother's attorney testified twice that there was no amount of child support in arrears and Hall was completely current in child support--the contempt charge still doesn't hold water (until he walked out on the judge, at which point a new contempt charge is completely valid... but six months? There are teenaged rapists doing barely more than that in jail. Come the fark on!)


I think he wasn't current at the time she filed the case.  He found out about the problem and fixed it before the court appearance.

lack of warmth: I imagine the hearing went something like a Judge Judy episode, judge making decisions based on clean cut mannerisms as oppose to facts and reasoning. It does seem odd to go through a hearing when the matter is already settled. Why was the court hearing still held, and why did the ex even need a lawyer anyway? Isn't these kind of cases treated somewhat like a criminal case where prosecutors are used?


Because she was out to hurt him rather than simply get what she was supposed to.

OgreMagi: I read of some cases where the man got arrested because he didn't make the payments. Even the ex-wife insisted he made the payments on time, but he was still ran through the system and farked over. If you are in a state where the payments are processed through the government system, your life can be farked overly royally because some low-level clerk with a hangover didn't check a box.


Yeah.  I used to have a coworker who got farked on child support because she filed for welfare and omitted mentioning the child support she was receiving.  They turned around and came after him for the welfare money--and ended up getting it because in time he realized that winning would cost more than simply paying up.

itsaidwhat: Suggest a re-read. It's his kid, and his responsibility to know the terms, not anyone else's responsibility to make sure he knows. He's a slacker and wouldn't be in court if he was taking proper care of his kid.

I don't think six months of jail is the answer, unless the judge knows he won't actually serve it and it's only being used for effect. Which it clearly is having. And not just on him.

Look, either he pays or the rest of us pay. I vote that he pays.


No.  What is he supposed to do, call them up every month before sending the check to see if something changed?  I strongly suspect someone failed to send out a notice they were supposed to--very likely deliberately.
 
2014-01-12 08:59:01 PM  

Guest: patchvonbraun: OgreMagi: fluffy2097: Today I learned Farkers think Alimony is Child Support.

Today I taught Farkers that Alimony is not child support, but adult support.

/They are similar though, both can cost you 50% of your yearly pre-tax income as a man.
//Better pray to your god your divorce is amicable if you are a man. Prenuptial agreements have already been voided by divorce courts.

I'm fairly certain child support is tax deductible, though alimony is not.

Generally, child support is *not* tax deductible, though spousal support *is*.  The theory I guess being that you'd have to pay that money anyway for upkeep of the children, but the ex-biatch is an adult, and *could* work if she'd get off her fat, bonbon-eating ass, and actually *use* the pharmacy tech education you paid for in the year before you split up....wait, I'm drifting of track, where were we?

Oh yes.  So, spousal support is tax deductible.  Unless there are notional arrears, in which case, spousal isn't tax deductible.  If there are notional arrears, then, well, you're farked forever.  Or you engage in a long, hard, expensive court process to get them expunged because they weren't legitimate to begin with.  Oh fark, I'm drifting off-track again.


/my ex is a fat, lazy biatch.  Send her just over 50% of my net income every month.  That's not enough, apparently.


Just a few questins

How many children does your ex wife have?


Three.  One of whom is 24 and I'm still on the hook for support of.  The "system" is insane, and should be flushed.
 
2014-01-12 09:11:48 PM  

cryinoutloud: weltallica: [www.madmaxz.com image 620x350]
Only yourselves to blame, ladies.

Bwaahahahahaahahaaaaa. Yeah, he looks like a great catch.


She's there, isn't she?

Keep looking for that 6'4" CEO with a six-pack, girlfriend.  Bet he's right 'round the corner!
 
2014-01-12 09:58:16 PM  
Man, I'm so glad I finished with the ex spouse and child support four years ago...
 
2014-01-12 10:06:18 PM  

weltallica: cryinoutloud: weltallica: [www.madmaxz.com image 620x350]
Only yourselves to blame, ladies.

Bwaahahahahaahahaaaaa. Yeah, he looks like a great catch.

She's there, isn't she?

Keep looking for that 6'4" CEO with a six-pack, girlfriend.  Bet he's right 'round the corner!


Considering they're brother and sister both living in their parents' house...
 
2014-01-12 10:17:21 PM  

Turbo6inKY: Aigoo:

Get a new judge. My female divorce judge read everything and knew more about the case than either of our attorneys (who hadn't read everything). We each paid our own lawyers and if she had determined fault, she kept i ...

You don't get to just shop for a judge in Kentucky.  You get the one you're assigned.  If you don't like them, too bad.  Unless one party has dirt on the judge and can get them to recuse, you're stuck.  If you don't like their decision, you have to appeal.


If you can demonstrate clear bias, you can certainly ask for a new judge. Or is Kentucky more bass-ackwards than it was 23 years ago (which is the last time I set foot in the state, and it was pretty bass-ackwards then)?
 
2014-01-12 10:22:25 PM  

cryinoutloud: weltallica: [www.madmaxz.com image 620x350]
Only yourselves to blame, ladies.

Bwaahahahahaahahaaaaa. Yeah, he looks like a great catch.


I think that's the point, like this is what you've made us into! (Not saying I believe it's that simple myself.)
 
2014-01-12 10:34:56 PM  
Aigoo:

If you can demonstrate clear bias, you can certainly ask for a new judge. Or is Kentucky more bass-ackwards than it was 23 years ago (which is the last time I set foot in the state, and it was pretty bass-ackwards then)?


You can't demonstrate the bias. That would be like telling a Fox News viewer their favorite station isn't really fair and balanced.
 
2014-01-12 10:46:16 PM  

thamike: Vector R: thamike: Walking out when you're pissed off at the Judge will not help you in any way, except grant you a temporary reprieve of being angry. But it'll simply make it harder for your lawyers to get the Judge to reconsider the ruling.

Even the judge said that had he not walked out like that, she would have been able to give the case a closer look.  Of course, the Daily Mail sliced that tidbit out of their almost verbatim reposting of a retarded MyFoxHouston blog piece.

Oh no, she was perfectly able to give the case a closer look, she just chose not to because she's a power-tripping coont. Some of us walk away when we get too emotional, and that's probable exactly what happened. Better to go take a breather than tell the judge exactly how much of a man-hating coont she is.

Yeah, well, that's not how court works.  That's not even how elementary school works.


Tell that to any of the people who sell "anger management" courses these days.
Their answer is ALWAYS "retreat".
 
2014-01-12 11:02:51 PM  
He's a dumbass. You don't get up and walk out of court before being dismissed by the judge. If he does jail time that's why. Not because of the late child support.
 
2014-01-12 11:25:33 PM  

patchvonbraun: OgreMagi: fluffy2097: Today I learned Farkers think Alimony is Child Support.

Today I taught Farkers that Alimony is not child support, but adult support.

/They are similar though, both can cost you 50% of your yearly pre-tax income as a man.
//Better pray to your god your divorce is amicable if you are a man. Prenuptial agreements have already been voided by divorce courts.

I'm fairly certain child support is tax deductible, though alimony is not.

Generally, child support is *not* tax deductible, though spousal support *is*.  The theory I guess being that you'd have to pay that money anyway for upkeep of the children, but the ex-biatch is an adult, and *could* work if she'd get off her fat, bonbon-eating ass, and actually *use* the pharmacy tech education you paid for in the year before you split up....wait, I'm drifting of track, where were we?

Oh yes.  So, spousal support is tax deductible.  Unless there are notional arrears, in which case, spousal isn't tax deductible.  If there are notional arrears, then, well, you're farked forever.  Or you engage in a long, hard, expensive court process to get them expunged because they weren't legitimate to begin with.  Oh fark, I'm drifting off-track again.


/my ex is a fat, lazy biatch.  Send her just over 50% of my net income every month.  That's not enough, apparently.


This is not a justification for making allimony (legalized theft and extortion) tax deductible.  It's a justification for removing the whole concept of alimony altogether.
 
2014-01-12 11:27:30 PM  

saturn badger: mjbok: If that mistake was him over-paying, would he get the money back?

In my state yep. They pulled a months payment that was over the line and I got my money back.


Well, you should consider yourself lucky.  In many states if your income goes up your child support will go up retroactively and automatically in many cases.  In no states does your child support automatically go down if you lose your job or get a pay cut.  You have to file for it (and if you're lucky enough to actually get a reduction approved) there is no way in hell you get back the difference for the months until the change was approved.

Child support is rigged against men, plain and simple.  Easy way to prove it:  there are multiple instances of men who have proved they are not the father (cue Maury) of a child, but still are required by the courts to pay child support.
 
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