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(Vancouver Sun)   Peter Parker is Spider-Man again. Like the rest of the Marvel Universe, you probably didn't know he was gone   (vancouversun.com) divider line 79
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2014-01-12 10:54:50 AM
*blinks*

I just learned about the Doc Oc swap yesterday..now that's all over,,?!?

I am sooooooooooooooo outt'a the loop..  :/
 
2014-01-12 11:06:50 AM
I blame that insufferable, cloying Watson woman!
 
2014-01-12 11:27:27 AM
Oh, thank God! -.-

\ Have not enjoyed The Superior Spider-Man one bit.
\\ It's just awful.
\\\ Slashies! :D
 
2014-01-12 11:32:32 AM
Even by marvel standards that didn't take long.
 
2014-01-12 12:02:11 PM

Captain Steroid: Oh, thank God! -.-

\ Have not enjoyed The Superior Spider-Man one bit.
\\ It's just awful.
\\\ Slashies! :D


Really?  I kind of liked it.  It was something different, at least.
 
2014-01-12 12:10:59 PM
This would have ended sooner if one of the various telepaths just read Spidey's mind.
 
2014-01-12 12:24:18 PM
I *totally* didn't see that coming! I figured Marvel was going to toss a beloved franchise in the crapper and never push the reset button!
 
2014-01-12 12:29:30 PM
Switching Doc Oc's mind into PP's body might have been a good/interesting idea for an issue or even a 2 to 4 parter.

Doing it for a year was pretty stupid.

Glad someone eventually twigged to that.
 
2014-01-12 12:31:12 PM

quatchi: Switching Doc Oc's mind into PP's body might have been a good/interesting idea for an issue or even a 2 to 4 parter.

Doing it for a year was pretty stupid.

Glad someone eventually twigged to that.


Add that to the fact that he's became even more of a jackass than normal. You would think people would have caught on to that, at the very least Mary Jane or at least the Avengers.
 
2014-01-12 01:15:52 PM

texdent: quatchi: Switching Doc Oc's mind into PP's body might have been a good/interesting idea for an issue or even a 2 to 4 parter.

Doing it for a year was pretty stupid.

Glad someone eventually twigged to that.

Add that to the fact that he's became even more of a jackass than normal. You would think people would have caught on to that, at the very least Mary Jane or at least the Avengers.


They all kind of did.  But, given the nature of comics, something else always came up and diverted their attention.

The Avengers even did a brain scan on him.  But they were pretty much hitting buttons on the equipment and Stark was off world.  Otto was relieved because something actually did show up (active Parker engrams fighting back), but no one present picked up on them.

Aunt May just seems pleased that Peter finally appears happy.

Mary Jane knew something was up but pretty much took on a fark you attitude.  Carlie Cooper came closest to figuring out what was going on.  I'm still reading the back issues so I don't know how close.  At the moment (for me) there's a time travel thing going on (Spider-Man 2099 comes to 2013).
 
2014-01-12 01:38:03 PM

texdent: quatchi: Switching Doc Oc's mind into PP's body might have been a good/interesting idea for an issue or even a 2 to 4 parter.

Doing it for a year was pretty stupid.

Glad someone eventually twigged to that.

Add that to the fact that he's became even more of a jackass than normal. You would think people would have caught on to that, at the very least Mary Jane or at least the Avengers.


They have.  Mary Jane just called in the Avengers to deal with him.
 
2014-01-12 01:52:06 PM
img.fark.net
 
2014-01-12 02:56:06 PM
I've actually really enjoyed the whole Superior Spider-Man story line. But with the new movie coming out this summer, there was no way Marvel wasn't going to revert back to the status quo .
 
2014-01-12 03:03:01 PM
The Superior run has been the longest I've read any Spider-Man title since the 90's. I like that it was trying something new without going down the clone saga route.
It's actually made me want to go back and check out the rest of Dan Slott's run that lead up to it.
 
2014-01-12 03:04:29 PM
And best of all, there'll be a new Amazing Spider-Man #1 to pick up and collect now! The value on that in the future is going to be through the roof!

/farking morons with the re-numbering crap...
 
2014-01-12 03:06:53 PM
images.sodahead.com
 
2014-01-12 03:19:06 PM

Nickster79: I've actually really enjoyed the whole Superior Spider-Man story line. But with the new movie coming out this summer, there was no way Marvel wasn't going to revert back to the status quo .


Gaambit: The Superior run has been the longest I've read any Spider-Man title since the 90's. I like that it was trying something new without going down the clone saga route.
It's actually made me want to go back and check out the rest of Dan Slott's run that lead up to it.


I thought it was interesting in showing what Spider-Man would be capable of in terms of crime fighting if he had a different attitude.
 
2014-01-12 03:27:40 PM
I'm still digging the new Ultimate Spider-Man, Miles Morales.  Why didn't they do this from the get-go?
 
2014-01-12 03:35:47 PM

Nickster79: I've actually really enjoyed the whole Superior Spider-Man story line. But with the new movie coming out this summer, there was no way Marvel wasn't going to revert back to the status quo .


Yep.

Was there a fanboy in all of creation that didn't know Peter Parker would be back before the movie was released?

Also, Humberto Ramos on art? Jesus, why not Rob Liefeld? At least that way, the bad art would have name recognition behind it.

/How does Ramos keep getting jobs? Is it because Mike Weiringo is dead and they figure that his cheap Senor Spielbergo knock-off will do? I mean, just look at this

behance.vo.llnwd.net


WHO LIKES THIS ART?!?
 
2014-01-12 03:44:10 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Nickster79: I've actually really enjoyed the whole Superior Spider-Man story line. But with the new movie coming out this summer, there was no way Marvel wasn't going to revert back to the status quo .

Yep.

Was there a fanboy in all of creation that didn't know Peter Parker would be back before the movie was released?

Also, Humberto Ramos on art? Jesus, why not Rob Liefeld? At least that way, the bad art would have name recognition behind it.

/How does Ramos keep getting jobs? Is it because Mike Weiringo is dead and they figure that his cheap Senor Spielbergo knock-off will do? I mean, just look at this




WHO LIKES THIS ART?!?


It depends on the story. It would worm fine for a humorous comic like Chew, but it just doesn't work as well for superhero stuff.
 
2014-01-12 03:44:47 PM
Work fine, not worm fine.

/autocorrect fail
 
F42
2014-01-12 03:48:37 PM
You can only retell the same story for so many decades...
 
2014-01-12 03:55:39 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Nickster79: I've actually really enjoyed the whole Superior Spider-Man story line. But with the new movie coming out this summer, there was no way Marvel wasn't going to revert back to the status quo .

Yep.

Was there a fanboy in all of creation that didn't know Peter Parker would be back before the movie was released?

Also, Humberto Ramos on art? Jesus, why not Rob Liefeld? At least that way, the bad art would have name recognition behind it.

/How does Ramos keep getting jobs? Is it because Mike Weiringo is dead and they figure that his cheap Senor Spielbergo knock-off will do? I mean, just look at this

[behance.vo.llnwd.net image 600x448]


WHO LIKES THIS ART?!?


I generally like Ramos, but when he farks up, it shows BIG TIME. And don't even joke about Liefeld on Spider-Man. Don't put that out in the universe.
 
2014-01-12 03:59:57 PM

Mad_Radhu: FirstNationalBastard: Nickster79: I've actually really enjoyed the whole Superior Spider-Man story line. But with the new movie coming out this summer, there was no way Marvel wasn't going to revert back to the status quo .

Yep.

Was there a fanboy in all of creation that didn't know Peter Parker would be back before the movie was released?

Also, Humberto Ramos on art? Jesus, why not Rob Liefeld? At least that way, the bad art would have name recognition behind it.

/How does Ramos keep getting jobs? Is it because Mike Weiringo is dead and they figure that his cheap Senor Spielbergo knock-off will do? I mean, just look at this

WHO LIKES THIS ART?!?

It depends on the story. It would worm fine for a humorous comic like Chew, but it just doesn't work as well for superhero stuff.


Yeah, I didn't mind Ramos on Impulse, because that style really did fit Impulse. But Spidey? When I think Spidey, I think John Romita Sr., not Humberto Ramos or Marcos Martin or  JRJr and his pointy chins.
 
2014-01-12 04:11:16 PM
Just in time for the new movie! Yay!
 
2014-01-12 04:24:42 PM

MagSeven: And don't even joke about Liefeld on Spider-Man. Don't put that out in the universe.


COMING THIS FALL -- THE REBOOT YOU'VE BEEN WAITING FOR --

BLOODSPIDERPOUCHGRIMACE!!!

with EXTRA GUNS!!!
 
2014-01-12 04:25:11 PM
And here's the damn cover to the book

cdn.bleedingcool.net

I think Spidey came back with Down Syndrome or something.

/this is why I biatch every time I see Humberto Ramos gets a high profile book. So many good artists out there and Marvel cheaps out and puts the shiattiest ones they can on a book. I would have loved to have read Kelly Sue DeConnick's Captain Marvel, for example, but I made the mistake of looking inside the trade to see some vaguely defined scratchings that could have passed for art if you were drunk off your ass and squinting in a very dark room.
 
2014-01-12 04:26:21 PM
Why is Peter Parker cross-eyed? That would be hell on his depth perception.
 
2014-01-12 04:32:57 PM

FirstNationalBastard: And here's the damn cover to the book



I think Spidey came back with Down Syndrome or something.

/this is why I biatch every time I see Humberto Ramos gets a high profile book. So many good artists out there and Marvel cheaps out and puts the shiattiest ones they can on a book. I would have loved to have read Kelly Sue DeConnick's Captain Marvel, for example, but I made the mistake of looking inside the trade to see some vaguely defined scratchings that could have passed for art if you were drunk off your ass and squinting in a very dark room.


I could never figure out why they had Liefeld do the covers to Cable and Deadpool when he had nothing to do with the interior art. Don't they know that drives away survivors of the dark days of 90's Marvel superhero comics like me?
 
2014-01-12 04:33:03 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Was there a fanboy in all of creation that didn't know Peter Parker would be back before the movie was released?

"We did it this way because no one was expecting it. Everyone out there assumed we'd have a big reveal later. People thought we'd bring Peter back in a year's time -- or right before the next Spider-Man movie," http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=43463">Slott said of the ghostly Peter Parker shortly after the debut of "Superior Spider-Man" #1. "Everyone was so savvy with how this all works that I thought the best way to keep people off their game was to just put that card on the table right from the get go. You're all so sure it was coming -- Well? Here it is! But if you think that's all there is, get ready to be wrong."


THEY SURE SHOWED US!
 
2014-01-12 04:34:40 PM

Confabulat: Why is Peter Parker cross-eyed? That would be hell on his depth perception.


Clearly, he's hepped-up on goofballs.

As an aside, there is a long-standing association with post-graduate education and super-villainy, especially in Marvel's world. What's up with that?
 
2014-01-12 04:36:07 PM

zimbach: Confabulat: Why is Peter Parker cross-eyed? That would be hell on his depth perception.

Clearly, he's hepped-up on goofballs.

As an aside, there is a long-standing association with post-graduate education and super-villainy, especially in Marvel's world. What's up with that?


Reed Richards hasn't gone all super-villainy, unless you count the giant dick he was during Civil War
 
2014-01-12 04:39:38 PM

Mad_Radhu: FirstNationalBastard: And here's the damn cover to the book

I think Spidey came back with Down Syndrome or something.

/this is why I biatch every time I see Humberto Ramos gets a high profile book. So many good artists out there and Marvel cheaps out and puts the shiattiest ones they can on a book. I would have loved to have read Kelly Sue DeConnick's Captain Marvel, for example, but I made the mistake of looking inside the trade to see some vaguely defined scratchings that could have passed for art if you were drunk off your ass and squinting in a very dark room.

I could never figure out why they had Liefeld do the covers to Cable and Deadpool when he had nothing to do with the interior art. Don't they know that drives away survivors of the dark days of 90's Marvel superhero comics like me?


I still blame the Scott McDaniel covers on Hourman for driving people away from the book, especially since there was wonderful Rags Morales art inside.

McDaniel:

static1.wikia.nocookie.net

Morales

images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-01-12 04:39:45 PM

texdent: Reed Richards hasn't gone all super-villainy, unless you count the giant dick he was during Civil War


There was that whole Marvel Zombies incident too, but I suppose that's not canon.
 
2014-01-12 04:47:23 PM

FirstNationalBastard: And here's the damn cover to the book

[cdn.bleedingcool.net image 635x964]

I think Spidey came back with Down Syndrome or something.

/this is why I biatch every time I see Humberto Ramos gets a high profile book. So many good artists out there and Marvel cheaps out and puts the shiattiest ones they can on a book. I would have loved to have read Kelly Sue DeConnick's Captain Marvel, for example, but I made the mistake of looking inside the trade to see some vaguely defined scratchings that could have passed for art if you were drunk off your ass and squinting in a very dark room.


Geez, all he needs is some grey wings and bubbles on his butt.

/Derpy-sense... tingling!
 
2014-01-12 04:51:54 PM
OMG, I did not see that coming! And the fact that Amazing Spider Man 2 will be in theaters soon is surely just a coincidence! Also, did you guys know that the sky is blue? MY MIND IS BLOWN!
 
2014-01-12 05:06:01 PM
Not that everything is going to be bad, said Slott. After all, while Octavius was in his body, he took a doctorate and founded a company, among other things.

Spider-man, last of the lower middle class super heroes joins the upperclass
 
2014-01-12 05:39:15 PM

FirstNationalBastard: I think Spidey came back with Down Syndrome or something.


With those milky-grey eyes, he definitely needs some cataract surgery.
 
2014-01-12 05:43:41 PM

Confabulat: texdent: Reed Richards hasn't gone all super-villainy, unless you count the giant dick he was during Civil War

There was that whole Marvel Zombies incident too, but I suppose that's not canon.


Ultimate Reed DID go all super-villain. He nearly conquered the world. Everyone hates him, and he only came around to realizing what an ass he was when he visited the 616 universe and accidentally bumped into Val (Reed & Sue's daughter). In Ultimate, he and Sue didn't have kids because they went off the rails in a big way. When he saw what could have been, that's what did it for him.

As for Marvel Zombies, it IS canon, but it's confined to several other universes. It's currently canon for the Ultimate Reed, as he's the one who initially discovered the first zombie universe. Some 616 characters HAVE interacted with the zombies in other universes (notably, Howard the Duck and Machine Man) but they have been held off from reaching the 616 universe... Unless you count Headpool (Zombie Deadpool's head).


FirstNationalBastard: Nickster79: I've actually really enjoyed the whole Superior Spider-Man story line. But with the new movie coming out this summer, there was no way Marvel wasn't going to revert back to the status quo .

Yep.

Was there a fanboy in all of creation that didn't know Peter Parker would be back before the movie was released?

Also, Humberto Ramos on art? Jesus, why not Rob Liefeld? At least that way, the bad art would have name recognition behind it.

/How does Ramos keep getting jobs? Is it because Mike Weiringo is dead and they figure that his cheap Senor Spielbergo knock-off will do? I mean, just look at this

[behance.vo.llnwd.net image 600x448]


WHO LIKES THIS ART?!?


I'm SO with you on this. He sucks big-time, and there are tons of us Spidey fans who have been complaining about him for a while... Marvel just ignores us and gives us more of this crap:

static.comicvine.com

static.comicvine.com
www.michaelminneboo.nl
3.bp.blogspot.com

I hate Liefeld, but I'm starting to think Ramos makes Liefeld look like John Byrne.

/That's not great, but it's better than awful.
//I never liked how Byrne did faces. All the same nose.
///I just want an artist that doesn't Salvador Dali the hell out of the characters.
 
2014-01-12 05:45:10 PM

FuryOfFirestorm: OMG, I did not see that coming! And the fact that Amazing Spider Man 2 will be in theaters soon is surely just a coincidence! Also, did you guys know that the sky is blue? MY MIND IS BLOWN!


Why the hell would Marvel Studios want Amazing Spider-Man 2 to succeed? If it does poorly, then they have a chance in hell of getting the film rights back. If it does well, then they still don't make much money from the character or the merchandising from the movie.

ASM2 isn't Marvel's property. It's Sony's, and I really don't see any reason why Marvel would want to help Sony keep the film rights to Spider-Man.
 
2014-01-12 05:48:12 PM
Ugh, those are displeasing to look at.
 
2014-01-12 05:49:10 PM

ZeroCorpse: FuryOfFirestorm: OMG, I did not see that coming! And the fact that Amazing Spider Man 2 will be in theaters soon is surely just a coincidence! Also, did you guys know that the sky is blue? MY MIND IS BLOWN!

Why the hell would Marvel Studios want Amazing Spider-Man 2 to succeed? If it does poorly, then they have a chance in hell of getting the film rights back. If it does well, then they still don't make much money from the character or the merchandising from the movie.

ASM2 isn't Marvel's property. It's Sony's, and I really don't see any reason why Marvel would want to help Sony keep the film rights to Spider-Man.


Yeah Marvel doesn't own the Spider-Man movie rights, but do you really think they'd turn down the idea of cashing in on the movie any way they can?
 
2014-01-12 05:49:35 PM

ZeroCorpse: Confabulat: texdent: Reed Richards hasn't gone all super-villainy, unless you count the giant dick he was during Civil War

There was that whole Marvel Zombies incident too, but I suppose that's not canon.

Ultimate Reed DID go all super-villain. He nearly conquered the world. Everyone hates him, and he only came around to realizing what an ass he was when he visited the 616 universe and accidentally bumped into Val (Reed & Sue's daughter). In Ultimate, he and Sue didn't have kids because they went off the rails in a big way. When he saw what could have been, that's what did it for him.

As for Marvel Zombies, it IS canon, but it's confined to several other universes. It's currently canon for the Ultimate Reed, as he's the one who initially discovered the first zombie universe. Some 616 characters HAVE interacted with the zombies in other universes (notably, Howard the Duck and Machine Man) but they have been held off from reaching the 616 universe... Unless you count Headpool (Zombie Deadpool's head).


FirstNationalBastard: Nickster79: I've actually really enjoyed the whole Superior Spider-Man story line. But with the new movie coming out this summer, there was no way Marvel wasn't going to revert back to the status quo .

Yep.

Was there a fanboy in all of creation that didn't know Peter Parker would be back before the movie was released?

Also, Humberto Ramos on art? Jesus, why not Rob Liefeld? At least that way, the bad art would have name recognition behind it.

/How does Ramos keep getting jobs? Is it because Mike Weiringo is dead and they figure that his cheap Senor Spielbergo knock-off will do? I mean, just look at this

[behance.vo.llnwd.net image 600x448]


WHO LIKES THIS ART?!?

I'm SO with you on this. He sucks big-time, and there are tons of us Spidey fans who have been complaining about him for a while... Marvel just ignores us and gives us more of this crap:

[static.comicvine.com image 850x559]

[static.comicvine.com image 625x897]
[www.michaelminne ...


Look, it's not fair of you to go to deviantart and find the worst fan-art you can and pretend like it's...wait, those are real? *HORK*
 
2014-01-12 06:55:57 PM
Now, see, Mike Wieringo was dancing on that fine line of cartoony and straight comic art, but he did it well.

www.spiderfan.org

31.media.tumblr.com

www.spiderfan.org

But it's a very difficult line to walk.
 
2014-01-12 07:29:17 PM
Theyre just going to kill him off, and Miles Morales, who is in 616 now i guess thanks to a hole Galactus ate between universes or something, will be the new "Spider-guy" so Disney can use him in the MCU.
 
2014-01-12 07:33:57 PM

Cyno01: Theyre just going to kill him off, and Miles Morales, who is in 616 now i guess thanks to a hole Galactus ate between universes or something, will be the new "Spider-guy" so Disney can use him in the MCU.


You know why they're doing the whole Inhumanity thing, right? So that they can position Black Bolt and the Inhumans as "mutants" for movie rights purposes.
 
2014-01-12 07:41:48 PM

Trocadero: Cyno01: Theyre just going to kill him off, and Miles Morales, who is in 616 now i guess thanks to a hole Galactus ate between universes or something, will be the new "Spider-guy" so Disney can use him in the MCU.

You know why they're doing the whole Inhumanity thing, right? So that they can position Black Bolt and the Inhumans as "mutants" for movie rights purposes.


Doesn't Fox own the rights to anyone that is primarily mutant-affiliated?
 
2014-01-12 07:43:28 PM

Confabulat: ZeroCorpse: FuryOfFirestorm: OMG, I did not see that coming! And the fact that Amazing Spider Man 2 will be in theaters soon is surely just a coincidence! Also, did you guys know that the sky is blue? MY MIND IS BLOWN!

Why the hell would Marvel Studios want Amazing Spider-Man 2 to succeed? If it does poorly, then they have a chance in hell of getting the film rights back. If it does well, then they still don't make much money from the character or the merchandising from the movie.

ASM2 isn't Marvel's property. It's Sony's, and I really don't see any reason why Marvel would want to help Sony keep the film rights to Spider-Man.

Yeah Marvel doesn't own the Spider-Man movie rights, but do you really think they'd turn down the idea of cashing in on the movie any way they can?


They cash in a fark of a lot more if they can get Spidey back. Which won't happen. The studios are obligated to churn out a film to keep the property, they're not obligated to do a blockbuster. They can get properties loaned to them though, so there's that at least.

Hopefully this will stop creepy psycho fans from threatening Dan Slott though. Seriously comic fans are the worst for creepy nutjob value.
 
2014-01-12 07:45:19 PM
I'll be pretty sad to see superior go. Its been really good. That being said I'm ready for Peter to come back.

As far is the art is concerned, I'd like to see Marco Rudy on this book. He's killing it on the knights mini series, and he was dynamite on Swamp Thing. I'd love to see him get more work.
 
2014-01-12 07:45:49 PM

labman: Even by marvel standards that didn't take long.


Yeah, usually a change like that is at LEAST two years before they go back to the status quo.
 
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