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(Jezebel)   Traditional American masculinity is on its way out, and men have no one to blame but themselves. Men are useless trifecta now in play   (jezebel.com) divider line 247
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2014-01-12 08:49:24 AM
I take pride in my size and strength, but these kids wearin' nut huggers, never played a sport in their life, they look foolish. A couple push ups won't kill ya.
 
2014-01-12 09:17:42 AM
Uh, yeah. Declining male power is largely the result of the economy making traditionally male-dominated physical jobs mostly obsolete.

"It's the economy, stupid"
 
2014-01-12 09:37:16 AM
TL;DR, too much henpecking.
 
2014-01-12 09:41:49 AM

Rincewind53: Uh, yeah. Declining male power is largely the result of the economy making traditionally male-dominated physical jobs mostly obsolete.

"It's the economy, stupid"


This.

I don't really see how blame has anything to do with it, especially blaming one sex against another. Did stagecoach drivers and lamp oil workers blame one sex for their declining roles in society? The world changed and economic shifts value certain skills over another.

That being said, someone like me wouldn't survive a day on an oil rig/coal mine/forestry crew, so there are still a few job sectors that value traditional "masculine" traits
 
2014-01-12 09:43:01 AM
img.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-12 09:50:59 AM
Homo sapiens: the first species to DESERVE extinction
 
2014-01-12 10:01:18 AM
Ah, more broad and authoritative pronouncements from the misandry content farm.  I mean, I dunno.  It could be true.  It IS on the internet.
 
2014-01-12 10:02:15 AM
Man up and stop reading Jezebel, nancies.
 
2014-01-12 10:08:26 AM
I blame hipsters.
 
2014-01-12 10:44:16 AM

FriarReb98: I blame hipsters.


I blame a zeitgeist of "SOMEBODY HAS TO BE BLAMED!" being shoved under our noses like lilac sprinkled dogsh*t for four decades.  You don't have to pull a gun on people to steal from them.  Just keep them hating each other 24/7 while you pick their pockets.
 
2014-01-12 10:44:19 AM
I'm not so feminist that I want to take out my own trash, crawl under the house to do repairs, or lift heavy things. I am willing to trade dinner making, dishes washing, and grocery shopping for these things.
 
2014-01-12 10:52:45 AM
I can cook, clean, do my washing, change my own tires, oil and spark plugs and light remodeling.  And do.  If I meet a bright, pretty and kind woman who wants to hang out and hold up her half of the sky, that'd be lovely.  As far as who does, what, I'm sort of communist about that.  Each according to their abilities, each according to the needs of the common good.

/badass sammich maker.
//can gap plugs.
///none of my white shirts are pink
 
2014-01-12 10:55:54 AM

bunner: I can cook, clean, do my washing, change my own tires, oil and spark plugs and light remodeling.  And do.  If I meet a bright, pretty and kind woman who wants to hang out and hold up her half of the sky, that'd be lovely.  As far as who does, what, I'm sort of communist about that.  Each according to their abilities, each according to the needs of the common good.

/badass sammich maker.
//can gap plugs.
///none of my white shirts are pink


I wonder about your underwear, though
 
2014-01-12 10:56:39 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I wonder about your underwear, though


Commando.
 
2014-01-12 11:05:59 AM

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 600x445]


Have you ever met anyone like that? Because I never have and I live in Portland. Maybe you need to get out more.
 
2014-01-12 11:08:13 AM

bunner: Commando.


That's how I cut down on trips to the laundromat

/saves money and the environment
 
2014-01-12 11:09:33 AM
Ok, from now on can we refer to Jezebel as "BibleSlut.com"?
/I can't believe they were actually applauding the "death" of manliness!
//Well, actually I can, considering they seem obsessed with "the patriarchy" and seem to have a love/hate relationship with the male gender.
///Christ, we need to start toughening up our kids! Of both genders! If we actually have a real war, we can't be stopping ever ten minutes because someone has a boo-boo or wants to discuss their feelings.
 
2014-01-12 11:14:43 AM

Richard C Stanford: Ok, from now on can we refer to Jezebel as "BibleSlut.com"?
/I can't believe they were actually applauding the "death" of manliness!
//Well, actually I can, considering they seem obsessed with "the patriarchy" and seem to have a love/hate relationship with the male gender.
///Christ, we need to start toughening up our kids! Of both genders! If we actually have a real war, we can't be stopping ever ten minutes because someone has a boo-boo or wants to discuss their feelings.


They love trolling just like every other news aggregator.  Your poutrage is what sustains them.
 
2014-01-12 11:16:45 AM

quickdraw: DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 600x445]

Have you ever met anyone like that? Because I never have and I live in Portland. Maybe you need to get out more.


That's the MRA depiction of women.
 
2014-01-12 11:32:53 AM
Nice to see that the pressure to be hyper-macho is lessening.
 
2014-01-12 11:51:22 AM
And we wonder why more and more marriages are sexless and end in divorce....

Manly men are attractive, dammit.
 
2014-01-12 11:51:57 AM

quickdraw: DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 600x445]

Have you ever met anyone like that? Because I never have and I live in Portland. Maybe you need to get out more.


It describes you, doesn't it?
 
2014-01-12 11:53:22 AM
 
2014-01-12 11:53:34 AM
I would like to give the author a pearl necklace.  Such an adornment would look good on her.  Of course, I would also like to see her blow on my whistle.  That would be enjoyable.
 
2014-01-12 11:54:45 AM
I would think men would welcome the opportunity to be a little softer and carry fewer of the traditional burdens.  After all, I know far more men who struggle with not being perceived as manly enough than struggle with being too manly
 
2014-01-12 11:55:17 AM

quickdraw: DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 600x445]

Have you ever met anyone like that? Because I never have and I live in Portland. Maybe you need to get out more.


wegotabadass.jpg
 
2014-01-12 11:55:36 AM
I could say the same for traditional American femininity. See how that looks?

Every male is a wuss! (except the all the ones that aren't)

Every female is a butch man-hater! (except all the ones that aren't)
 
2014-01-12 11:55:41 AM
We need meninism to get us back on par with women.

I'll be on the couch playing video games and being a grown-up kid in the meantime.
 
2014-01-12 11:56:33 AM

RedPhoenix122: quickdraw: DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 600x445]

Have you ever met anyone like that? Because I never have and I live in Portland. Maybe you need to get out more.

That's the MRA depiction of women.


It's also every comment section on any article in any part of the Gawker media family from Jezebel to Kotaku. They're kind of... Cause-y.

But yeah, you won't meet these people in real life. They live on the internet.
 
2014-01-12 11:56:38 AM
Success, initiative, and confidence. Things that women appreciate in a man haven't changed. I do believe the extinction of the saber-toothed tiger was the largest contributor to man's instant gratification. Nowadays it's honey-do lists, finding Saturday night entertainment without help, and contributing to the day-to-days.

And of course passionate sex. If you can deliver there on a frequent schedule, you're more than 75% of the way there.

/ 22% of the way there
// should be an online quiz to measure your manliness
/// likely on Jezebel already...
 
2014-01-12 11:57:32 AM
And the men just smile and nod and go back to being men confident in themselves and their ability to find a place in this world.
 
2014-01-12 11:58:05 AM
Apparently, masculinity was defined by skin tight jeans, skin tight shirt and a scarf. How the styles have changed.
 
2014-01-12 11:58:24 AM
The sissification of men started long ago. Do you notice in old black and white tv programs the father figure is a standup, respected leader of the household.

Nowadays the father figure is the brunt of any joke on television programs.
 
2014-01-12 11:58:31 AM

jennyz: And we wonder why more and more marriages are sexless and end in divorce....

Manly men are attractive, dammit.


Something's up, or maybe it's just my personal experience.  Anecdote is not data and all.

I keep hearing that if you want to impress your wife, do the dishes/laundry etc.  I do these things anyway, I make half the mess, may as well help clean it up.

But if I move 8 ton of hay or erect a rail road tie fence for her critters, neither of us is getting any sleep that night.

/yeah, classic manliness is dead
//sure
 
2014-01-12 11:58:51 AM

MechaPyx: And the men just smile and nod and go back to being men confident in themselves and their ability to find a place in this world.


This.
 
2014-01-12 11:58:52 AM
Dear Abby, March 2013 sometime:  "Old-fashioned romance started dying out in the late 1960s and early '70s. As women became more aggressive, men became more passive."

As to the article: physical strength aside, we've gotta figure out if men (overall) have a better aptitude for physics/engineering-type stuff, or if women simply haven't been "socialized to" choose and excel in those fields.

/has been munching popcorn, watching this unfold, for decades...
 
2014-01-12 11:59:16 AM

Saborlas: Nice to see that the pressure to be hyper-macho is lessening.


Let us all know when your testicles drop.
 
2014-01-12 11:59:19 AM
It's always adorable how women think they can say things into existence.
 
2014-01-12 12:00:13 PM

gadian: I would think men would welcome the opportunity to be a little softer and carry fewer of the traditional burdens.  After all, I know far more men who struggle with not being perceived as manly enough than struggle with being too manly


It's not very manly to pay much attention to perceptions.  The "men" you're describing are self defeating poseurs.
 
2014-01-12 12:00:25 PM
These threads are lamer than Jezebel.
 
2014-01-12 12:00:51 PM

Fubini: TL;DR, too much henpecking.


I'll bet Ms Ryan would have a happier, less bitter life if when Mr Ryan came home from work, she'd greet him at the door with a hoagie in one hand and a beer in the other.
 
2014-01-12 12:01:02 PM

DanZero:


Whenever I read "cisgender" my mind thinks "Cisalpine Gaul" and I wonder what Julius Caesar has to do with Feminism.
 
2014-01-12 12:01:03 PM
img.fark.net
 
2014-01-12 12:01:37 PM
She's absolutely right about it being the fault of men.

Men really need to put their foot down.
 
2014-01-12 12:02:15 PM

bunner: Ah, more

  broad  dame  and authoritative pronouncements from the misandry content farm.  I mean, I dunno.  It could be true.  It IS on the internet.


FTFY. You must respect their preference.
 
2014-01-12 12:02:30 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: We need meninism to get us back on par with women.

I'll be on the couch playing video games and being a grown-up kid in the meantime.


You say that sitting on the couch playing video games makes you a grown-up kid, but it's increasingly evident that the kids who sat on a couch playing video games in the 90's are now the ones raking in money doing office jobs and technical work, while all of the manly men football players are unemployed or janitors.
 
2014-01-12 12:03:22 PM
TFA: we need to blame... men.

This is every Jezebel article.
 
2014-01-12 12:03:49 PM

FriarReb98: I blame hipsters.



I blamed hipsters before it was cool. But only the indy ones, you probably haven't heard of them.
 
2014-01-12 12:03:50 PM

Saborlas: Nice to see that the pressure to be hyper-macho is lessening.


Not for women, unfortunately.
 
2014-01-12 12:04:16 PM
I understand where the author is coming from. When the only men you encounter are the pathetic, pussified gamma males taking the same gender studies courses that you are (or post to the same news aggregator site that you do), it's easy to come to the these conclusions.
 
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