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(Orlando Sentinel)   The time has come to ban smoking on playgrounds, because those children with their Camels and Marlboros are becoming bothersome   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 55
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2014-01-11 06:00:13 PM  
How many officers have the patients to stand there and wait for three violations to happen before a ticket is written? None.
 
2014-01-11 06:58:59 PM  
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lol, wut?
 
2014-01-11 07:10:03 PM  

erb4230: How many officers have the patients to stand there and wait for three violations to happen before a ticket is written? None.


Maybe they went to see a doctor?
 
2014-01-11 07:11:51 PM  
Here in Oregon you can get a $500 fine for smoking in a car with a minor now. How long before they try banning cigarettes altogether?
 
2014-01-11 07:12:21 PM  

some_beer_drinker: lol, wut?


Hahaha. That looks like a turd.
 
2014-01-11 08:39:54 PM  
The death of freedom is now complete.
 
2014-01-11 08:41:07 PM  
i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-01-11 08:41:18 PM  
I once saw a baby give another baby a tattoo and they were both drunk and smoking menthols at the playground.
 
2014-01-11 08:41:44 PM  
I can't believe that smoking isn't just outright banned especially since it's shown to be bad for your health. This piecemeal ban on smoking is stupid. Just ban it and save lives, but then that would mean the states would have to give up their revenue from cigarette taxes.
 
2014-01-11 08:44:32 PM  
I'm all for banning smoking in public places. Especially parks, playgrounds, and the beach. Nothing is more disgusting than sitting in the sand at the beach and looking over at a soggy cigarette butt. Filthy people, smokers.
 
2014-01-11 08:45:36 PM  

skinink: I can't believe that smoking isn't just outright banned especially since it's shown to be bad for your health. This piecemeal ban on smoking is stupid. Just ban it and save lives, but then that would mean the states would have to give up their revenue from cigarette taxes.


I agree. Drinking alcohol and eating junkfoods should be banned as well.
 
2014-01-11 08:46:15 PM  

skinink: I can't believe that smoking isn't just outright banned especially since it's shown to be bad for your health. This piecemeal ban on smoking is stupid. Just ban it and save lives, but then that would mean the states would have to give up their revenue from cigarette taxes.


It could go that way.  And then in a few decades, the discussion will be about banning weed and legalizing tobacco.
 
2014-01-11 08:46:26 PM  
Any state that has banned marijuana but allows cigarettes and alcohol is hypocritical. And stupid.

/Anyone who's started smoking in at least the last half-century is also an idiot.
 
2014-01-11 08:47:09 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I'm all for banning smoking in public places. Especially parks, playgrounds, and the beach. Nothing is more disgusting than sitting in the sand at the beach and looking over at a soggy cigarette butt. Filthy people, smokers.


You should have been around for these:

www.mentalfloss.com
 
2014-01-11 08:48:44 PM  

black__hippie: skinink: I can't believe that smoking isn't just outright banned especially since it's shown to be bad for your health. This piecemeal ban on smoking is stupid. Just ban it and save lives, but then that would mean the states would have to give up their revenue from cigarette taxes.

I agree. Drinking alcohol and eating junkfoods should be banned as well.


Don't forget mandatory exercise.
 
2014-01-11 08:49:46 PM  
When I was in High School, you could smoke at school as long as you were in the designated smoking area and not a freshman.
You also could smoke in bars, movie theaters, restaurants, and airplanes.
 
2014-01-11 08:50:10 PM  
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Inconsolable...
 
2014-01-11 08:50:28 PM  

MFAWG: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I'm all for banning smoking in public places. Especially parks, playgrounds, and the beach. Nothing is more disgusting than sitting in the sand at the beach and looking over at a soggy cigarette butt. Filthy people, smokers.

You should have been around for these:


Ah yes, those were slightly before my time, but I've heard they ruined quite a few pairs of flip flops
 
2014-01-11 08:51:11 PM  

skinink: I can't believe that smoking isn't just outright banned especially since it's shown to be bad for your health. This piecemeal ban on smoking is stupid. Just ban it and save lives, but then that would mean the states would have to give up their revenue from cigarette taxes.


There's no shortage of things that could be banned due to them being bad for you or certain groups not liking the item/activity. Let's get started!
 
2014-01-11 08:52:20 PM  

fusillade762: Here in Oregon you can get a $500 fine for smoking in a car with a minor now. How long before they try banning cigarettes altogether?



How long before they try banning cigarettes?


/altogether now
 
2014-01-11 08:56:57 PM  
It's all part of a plot by anti-Promethians to remove fire from our grasp.
 
2014-01-11 09:05:15 PM  

fusillade762: Here in Oregon you can get a $500 fine for smoking in a car with a minor now. How long before they try banning cigarettes altogether?


To be fair, second-hand smoke is pretty much the only time in history that "think of the children" has actually been a legitimate argument... to a degree, anyhow.  Because it can give kids health problems if they're exposed on a regular basis much more easily than it can other adults.

That said, while the car thing makes perfect sense because it's a confined space, banning smoking on playgrounds makes absolutely no farking sense whatsoever since they're by definition outdoors and there's no way the kids would get a sufficient dose to harm them in any way.

// Assuming the logic is based around smoke exposure.  If this is more a "people have been littering by leaving their butts all over the place" thing then... well, if you're a smoker that does dispose of the trash responsibly find the other guy and beat him up, because he's why you can't have nice things.
 
2014-01-11 09:07:54 PM  
FTA: "Titled the "Florida Clean Indoor Air Act," the bill has the support of the Florida League of Cities and the Florida Association of Counties. "

People who are too stupid to know the difference between indoor and out outdoor shouldn't be making decisions like this.
 
2014-01-11 09:09:30 PM  
Ban cigarettes?  To use an argument I have heard in these threads all too often: "It's stupid to ban a plant people can grow anywhere."
 
2014-01-11 09:11:44 PM  

black__hippie: skinink: I can't believe that smoking isn't just outright banned especially since it's shown to be bad for your health. This piecemeal ban on smoking is stupid. Just ban it and save lives, but then that would mean the states would have to give up their revenue from cigarette taxes.

I agree. Drinking alcohol and eating junkfoods should be banned as well.


Before you know it, we'll all be eating at Taco Bell and using the three seashells.

/and singing about hotdogs
//Armour hotdogs
///what kinds of kids eat Armour hotdogs?
 
2014-01-11 09:13:29 PM  

Slagnasty: I agree. Drinking alcohol and eating junkfoods should be banned as well.

Don't forget mandatory exercise.


Well, we tried the alcohol/drug ban thing and it didn't work, but if the government would actually put up the money to enforce stricter standards on nutrition to make it easier to eat healthily without carrying around the equivalent of the damned water tables, and if they wanted to add mandatory time and free access to exercise facilities to labor or health care standards... I'd actually be totally behind that.

The sticking point here is "if we're all willing to pay for the associated costs out of our taxes".  Because making people not smoke in the park saves money (in clean-up costs for butts) but making people exercise/eat well  costs money.  As someone that struggles with doing it myself as a relatively poor man... it costs  entirely too much money.  If everyone that pays more than me in taxes is willing to subsidize it, though, hell, I'd do the work part of it myself, no problem.

// Even a shiatty gym membership is easily 100$/month, and buying a full set of free weights for an adult male's standard lifting range is on the order of 500$.  Running around in circles on the street is sort of an OK exercise, but even that means you're replacing a 50$ pair of shoes every few months and pulling a bigger laundry bill than you would otherwise.
 
2014-01-11 09:14:44 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Slagnasty: I agree. Drinking alcohol and eating junkfoods should be banned as well.

Don't forget mandatory exercise.

Well, we tried the alcohol/drug ban thing and it didn't work, but if the government would actually put up the money to enforce stricter standards on nutrition to make it easier to eat healthily without carrying around the equivalent of the damned water tables, and if they wanted to add mandatory time and free access to exercise facilities to labor or health care standards... I'd actually be totally behind that.

The sticking point here is "if we're all willing to pay for the associated costs out of our taxes".  Because making people not smoke in the park saves money (in clean-up costs for butts) but making people exercise/eat well  costs money.  As someone that struggles with doing it myself as a relatively poor man... it costs  entirely too much money.  If everyone that pays more than me in taxes is willing to subsidize it, though, hell, I'd do the work part of it myself, no problem.

// Even a shiatty gym membership is easily 100$/month, and buying a full set of free weights for an adult male's standard lifting range is on the order of 500$.  Running around in circles on the street is sort of an OK exercise, but even that means you're replacing a 50$ pair of shoes every few months and pulling a bigger laundry bill than you would otherwise.


Where the fark do you live that shiatty gyms cost $100 a month!? Planet Fitness is $10/month, and LA Fitness is $40/month.
 
2014-01-11 09:23:37 PM  
They don't ban smoking on playgrounds, They want to ban smoking in parks with anything resembling a playground object regard of acreage or distance from said objects.

Cause it's about the kids, you know.

& safety
 
2014-01-11 09:24:27 PM  

skinink: I can't believe that smoking isn't just outright banned especially since it's shown to be bad for your health. This piecemeal ban on smoking is stupid. Just ban it and save lives, but then that would mean the states would have to give up their revenue from cigarette taxes.


They learned from prohibition how to properly boil that frog.
 
2014-01-11 09:27:36 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Slagnasty: I agree. Drinking alcohol and eating junkfoods should be banned as well.

Don't forget mandatory exercise.

Well, we tried the alcohol/drug ban thing and it didn't work, but if the government would actually put up the money to enforce stricter standards on nutrition to make it easier to eat healthily without carrying around the equivalent of the damned water tables, and if they wanted to add mandatory time and free access to exercise facilities to labor or health care standards... I'd actually be totally behind that.

The sticking point here is "if we're all willing to pay for the associated costs out of our taxes".  Because making people not smoke in the park saves money (in clean-up costs for butts) but making people exercise/eat well  costs money.  As someone that struggles with doing it myself as a relatively poor man... it costs  entirely too much money.  If everyone that pays more than me in taxes is willing to subsidize it, though, hell, I'd do the work part of it myself, no problem.

// Even a shiatty gym membership is easily 100$/month, and buying a full set of free weights for an adult male's standard lifting range is on the order of 500$.  Running around in circles on the street is sort of an OK exercise, but even that means you're replacing a 50$ pair of shoes every few months and pulling a bigger laundry bill than you would otherwise.


Try Planet Fitness.  $10 to join and $10 a month.
 
2014-01-11 09:56:16 PM  
good
 
2014-01-11 10:29:34 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: [wallpoper.com image 850x531]

/damn toddlers and babies smoking on the playground...


Van Halen, pre and post Van Hagar days was some of the most fun concerts I've ever attended. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em.
 
2014-01-11 10:32:01 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Slagnasty: I agree. Drinking alcohol and eating junkfoods should be banned as well.

Don't forget mandatory exercise.

Well, we tried the alcohol/drug ban thing and it didn't work, but if the government would actually put up the money to enforce stricter standards on nutrition to make it easier to eat healthily without carrying around the equivalent of the damned water tables, and if they wanted to add mandatory time and free access to exercise facilities to labor or health care standards... I'd actually be totally behind that.

The sticking point here is "if we're all willing to pay for the associated costs out of our taxes".  Because making people not smoke in the park saves money (in clean-up costs for butts) but making people exercise/eat well  costs money.  As someone that struggles with doing it myself as a relatively poor man... it costs  entirely too much money.  If everyone that pays more than me in taxes is willing to subsidize it, though, hell, I'd do the work part of it myself, no problem.

// Even a shiatty gym membership is easily 100$/month, and buying a full set of free weights for an adult male's standard lifting range is on the order of 500$.  Running around in circles on the street is sort of an OK exercise, but even that means you're replacing a 50$ pair of shoes every few months and pulling a bigger laundry bill than you would otherwise.


Health clubs cost from $10 to $30. If you're paying $100/month, you had better get a personal trainer and all the extra classes and whatnot. Probably spray tans and water massage too.

Pushups, pullups and sit ups followed by bodyweight squats and a good run don't cost anything.
 
2014-01-11 11:00:51 PM  

Prey4reign: Try Planet Fitness.  $10 to join and $10 a month.


Hey, thanks.

Who said FARK never taught me anything useful.  There's actually one of those in my town.
 
2014-01-11 11:02:37 PM  
dr_blasto

The f'ing YMCA costs $70/mo around here.
 
2014-01-11 11:09:29 PM  

equusdc: dr_blasto

The f'ing YMCA costs $70/mo around here.



I used to smoke at the Y.
 
2014-01-11 11:12:23 PM  
Ryker's Peninsula:  You also could smoke in bars, movie theaters, restaurants, and airplanes.


I grew up with tall stand-ashtrays at the end of every grocery aisle, at every elevator bank in every building, throughout every office, in workout gyms, in fire stations and at hospital nursing stations, in patient rooms and wards, in doctor locker-rooms outside surgery, in the medical records dept near tons of paper charts, in the cafeterias and in clinic waiting rooms.

Was also not unusual for school admin offices to be filled with smoke.

The husband-wife team who ran my daycare center during elementary school both smoked; she cigs, he cigars.  When wifey harped and hounded hubby, his giant belly would wobble as he chomped even harder on that cigar while cursing the day she was born.  But she made the best pudding ever and every Friday was 'box day' where hubby threw big empty boxes onto the playground for us animals to snarl, spit and claw each other over.  Box day rocked.
 
TWX
2014-01-11 11:42:17 PM  
Can we ban the snapping of fingers too?

/When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way...
//...from your first cigarette to your last dying day!
 
2014-01-12 12:28:23 AM  
How the hell can an act named the "Clean Indoor Air Act" have any legal leg to stand on anywhere outdoors?
 
2014-01-12 12:38:05 AM  

Farktastic: How the hell can an act named the "Clean Indoor Air Act" have any legal leg to stand on anywhere outdoors?


Sounds like somebody needs a trip to Room 101, to clear their head of such ungood thoughts.
 
2014-01-12 12:43:09 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: MFAWG: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I'm all for banning smoking in public places. Especially parks, playgrounds, and the beach. Nothing is more disgusting than sitting in the sand at the beach and looking over at a soggy cigarette butt. Filthy people, smokers.

You should have been around for these:

Ah yes, those were slightly before my time, but I've heard they ruined quite a few pairs of flip flops


Back then, flip-flops were called 'thongs'.
 
2014-01-12 12:50:35 AM  

Farktastic: How the hell can an act named the "Clean Indoor Air Act" have any legal leg to stand on anywhere outdoors?


How come the Affordable Care Act ends up costing most people more for healthcare?
 
2014-01-12 01:21:39 AM  
Everyone who ate asparagus in 1900 is dead. BAN ASPARAGUS!
 
2014-01-12 02:03:23 AM  

Betep: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: MFAWG: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I'm all for banning smoking in public places. Especially parks, playgrounds, and the beach. Nothing is more disgusting than sitting in the sand at the beach and looking over at a soggy cigarette butt. Filthy people, smokers.

You should have been around for these:

Ah yes, those were slightly before my time, but I've heard they ruined quite a few pairs of flip flops

Back then, flip-flops were called 'thongs'.


Sometimes informally known as "jap slaps" back in those politically incorrect days.
 
2014-01-12 02:13:10 AM  
dr_blasto:

Pushups, pullups and sit ups followed by bodyweight squats and a good run don't cost anything.
  Sounds like "Prison Gym"
 
2014-01-12 02:20:13 AM  

fusillade762: Here in Oregon you can get a $500 fine for smoking in a car with a minor now.


Good.
 
2014-01-12 02:23:23 AM  
Good.  Because if little Timmy is on the swing set and Joe Camel is in the same playground, 25 yards away, Timmy is going to get cancer and die from Joe's second hand smoke!
 
2014-01-12 03:51:25 AM  

Jim_Callahan: fusillade762: Here in Oregon you can get a $500 fine for smoking in a car with a minor now. How long before they try banning cigarettes altogether?

To be fair, second-hand smoke is pretty much the only time in history that "think of the children" has actually been a legitimate argument... to a degree, anyhow.  Because it can give kids health problems if they're exposed on a regular basis much more easily than it can other adults.

That said, while the car thing makes perfect sense because it's a confined space, banning smoking on playgrounds makes absolutely no farking sense whatsoever since they're by definition outdoors and there's no way the kids would get a sufficient dose to harm them in any way.


I just thought it was intersting that the article was taken from the Orlando Sentinal. Lake Eola in downtown, if you've ever seen a picture or have been there, has a walkway around it over a mile long. It has a fenced in children's play area in the S.E. corner that measure's about 40' x 40' if I recall. Anyway, it was one of those brightly colored slides. The way I took the bill to read, the entire park would then be prohibited from allowing smoking. Even a half mile away.

/will somebody think of the swans?
//the lake has swans.
///I think they actually enjoy chew the butts.
 
2014-01-12 06:29:40 AM  

black__hippie: skinink: I can't believe that smoking isn't just outright banned especially since it's shown to be bad for your health. This piecemeal ban on smoking is stupid. Just ban it and save lives, but then that would mean the states would have to give up their revenue from cigarette taxes.

I agree. Drinking alcohol and eating junkfoods should be banned as well.


And all cars should have a 70mph governor.
 
2014-01-12 07:47:39 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Slagnasty: I agree. Drinking alcohol and eating junkfoods should be banned as well.

Don't forget mandatory exercise.

Well, we tried the alcohol/drug ban thing and it didn't work, but if the government would actually put up the money to enforce stricter standards on nutrition to make it easier to eat healthily without carrying around the equivalent of the damned water tables, and if they wanted to add mandatory time and free access to exercise facilities to labor or health care standards... I'd actually be totally behind that.

The sticking point here is "if we're all willing to pay for the associated costs out of our taxes".  Because making people not smoke in the park saves money (in clean-up costs for butts) but making people exercise/eat well  costs money.  As someone that struggles with doing it myself as a relatively poor man... it costs  entirely too much money.  If everyone that pays more than me in taxes is willing to subsidize it, though, hell, I'd do the work part of it myself, no problem.

// Even a shiatty gym membership is easily 100$/month, and buying a full set of free weights for an adult male's standard lifting range is on the order of 500$.  Running around in circles on the street is sort of an OK exercise, but even that means you're replacing a 50$ pair of shoes every few months and pulling a bigger laundry bill than you would otherwise.


$100 A month? I pay $11 for a 24/7 gym
 
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