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2014-01-11 01:30:39 PM
So if you're under 18, is it illegal to take nude "selfies"?

I understand that she was sending pics of someone else, but the above question still seems relevant.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-01-11 01:32:57 PM

ambassador_ahab: So if you're under 18, is it illegal to take nude "selfies"?


Yes.

There is no telling how many children were turned into deranged criminals by the sight of her titties.
 
2014-01-11 01:39:40 PM
Probably need a slightly different charge, but I'm not going to lose that much sleep over the fact that some teenager got in trouble for sending pictures of another girl out over the internet.  I do think you should start telling your teens to start asking themselves what would they think if that picture they texted ended up on tmz.
 
2014-01-11 01:52:40 PM
Make all the things illegal. ALL THE THINGS!
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2014-01-11 02:19:29 PM
um

Read the article

She sent pictures of her boyfriend's ex-girlfriend.

She should be charged.
 
2014-01-11 03:09:01 PM

MBK: She sent pictures of her boyfriend's ex-girlfriend.


True, and I agree that what she did was terrible, and I would call it an act of bullying as well.  And I would feel terrible if I was the parent of the girl whose photos were sent out.

But is sending some shots of one person "distributing child pornography"?

For me, that term brings to mind creepy 50-year-old men sending horrible photos of young children operating out of their basement or something.
 
2014-01-11 03:32:17 PM

ambassador_ahab: MBK: She sent pictures of her boyfriend's ex-girlfriend.

True, and I agree that what she did was terrible, and I would call it an act of bullying as well.  And I would feel terrible if I was the parent of the girl whose photos were sent out.

But is sending some shots of one person "distributing child pornography"?

For me, that term brings to mind creepy 50-year-old men sending horrible photos of young children operating out of their basement or something.


There's really no alternative. You have to make that illegal. There are too many ways in which that can go bad not to.

/Prosecutors aren't paid to have discretion
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-01-11 03:33:30 PM
ambassador_ahab:
True, and I agree that what she did was terrible, and I would call it an act of bullying as well.  And I would feel terrible if I was the parent of the girl whose photos were sent out.

But is sending some shots of one person "distributing child pornography"?

For me, that term brings to mind creepy 50-year-old men sending horrible photos of young children operating out of their basement or something.


What else are you going to charge her with?  That's why these things happen.  It should probably be a misdemeanor, but you can't make your own laws on the fly.
 
2014-01-11 05:08:45 PM

vpb: ambassador_ahab:
True, and I agree that what she did was terrible, and I would call it an act of bullying as well.  And I would feel terrible if I was the parent of the girl whose photos were sent out.

But is sending some shots of one person "distributing child pornography"?

For me, that term brings to mind creepy 50-year-old men sending horrible photos of young children operating out of their basement or something.

What else are you going to charge her with?  That's why these things happen.  It should probably be a misdemeanor, but you can't make your own laws on the fly.


In 20 years when congress is full of kids that grew up with camera phones, the appropriate law will be made.

/see you 20 years
 
2014-01-11 05:18:14 PM

ambassador_ahab: So if you're under 18, is it illegal to take nude "selfies"?

I understand that she was sending pics of someone else, but the above question still seems relevant.


You didn't RTFA, did you?
 
2014-01-11 05:23:43 PM
"The accused was not at all happy that he was still in touch with his ex,"

She probably also wasn't thrilled that he still had naked photos of her.  Seriously guys, you need to learn to hide this shiat better.
 
2014-01-11 05:34:10 PM
Yeah, after reading the article I'm okay with those charges. She's a little vindictive witch.
 
2014-01-11 05:36:11 PM

pueblonative: Probably need a slightly different charge, but I'm not going to lose that much sleep over the fact that some teenager got in trouble for sending pictures of another girl out over the internet.  I do think you should start telling your teens to start asking themselves what would they think if that picture they texted ended up on tmz.


Problem is that as a result of this, she may be on a sex offender registry for the rest of her life because of this. Not sure if Canada treats this the same as here in the US, where the minimum requirement is someone getting arrested for peeing outside.
 
2014-01-11 05:36:19 PM

MBK: um

Read the article

She sent pictures of her boyfriend's ex-girlfriend.

She should be charged.


And if the pictures were in fact "child pornography" there should be charges for the boy since he was in possession of child pornography as was established by the court. It would seem to be an easy win.
 
2014-01-11 05:36:32 PM
Well, the important thing here is that a teenager who did the kind of stupid shiat that teenagers have always done, albeit with new technology that allows them to do dumb shiat in whole new ways, should have a charge levied against her that will probably be a burden to her the rest of her life, if it doesn't destroy it outright.

/cannot imagine what I would have gotten myself into if I'd had an iPhone when I was 16
 
2014-01-11 05:37:15 PM

KawaiiNot: Yeah, after reading the article I'm okay with those charges. She's a little vindictive witch.


...and I wouldn't be surprised if everyone is going along with slightly trumped-up charges in the hope of correcting her shiatty behavior NOW.
 
2014-01-11 05:37:54 PM

RoxtarRyan: pueblonative: Probably need a slightly different charge, but I'm not going to lose that much sleep over the fact that some teenager got in trouble for sending pictures of another girl out over the internet.  I do think you should start telling your teens to start asking themselves what would they think if that picture they texted ended up on tmz.

Problem is that as a result of this, she may be on a sex offender registry for the rest of her life because of this. Not sure if Canada treats this the same as here in the US, where the minimum requirement is someone getting arrested for peeing outside.


After reading TFA, actually, yeah she should be nailed for that. They weren't nudes of herself, they were someone else's that she acquired.
 
2014-01-11 05:38:02 PM

MBK: um

Read the article

She sent pictures of her boyfriend's ex-girlfriend.

She should be charged.


This is "let's see how we can criminally charge kids with being mean" mentality.
 
2014-01-11 05:39:42 PM
Sending nude photos of yourself out into the internet is a stupid move.
Sending nude photos of someone else out into the internet is a major dick move and you should be sentenced to weekly sack beatings for it.
 
2014-01-11 05:43:47 PM
Where are the parents? Why are they not smashing their kids phones to little bits?
 
2014-01-11 05:46:22 PM

OtherLittleGuy: This is "let's see how we can criminally charge kids with being mean" mentality.


Yeah, that's a little more than being mean.
 
2014-01-11 05:47:49 PM
I agree with the charge. If she had sent pics of herself and was charged with child pornography I would say that was stupid.

However, she sent pictures of another teenager, a younger teenager, with malicious intent. I say bury the biatch under the courthouse.
 
2014-01-11 05:48:53 PM

MBK: um

Read the article

She sent pictures of her boyfriend's ex-girlfriend.

She should be charged.


Exactly. She shouldn't be registered as a sex offender, but this was wrong on a few levels.
 
2014-01-11 05:49:10 PM
Okay, so the girl whose nude pics were sent gets pissed and hires a lawyer.  They get the girl who sent it charged with distributing child porn.  But if you're going to make the claim that the pic you took of yourself is child porn, shouldn't you be charged with the manufacture of it?  Seems hypocritical for one to be charged but not the other.
 
2014-01-11 05:49:24 PM
Honestly, this would  be easier if we had stronger criminal invasion of privacy with no sexual registry for a first time offense. Might be able to take care of the revenge pron this way as well.
 
2014-01-11 05:50:27 PM
She has to introduce herself as a crazy biatch girlfriend to anyone she meets now.
 
2014-01-11 05:50:30 PM
Pictures or it didn't happen
 
2014-01-11 05:50:51 PM

vygramul: Prosecutors aren't paid to have discretion


The discretion whether or not to proceed (and how to proceed) with a case against someone accused of a criminal offence pretty much exactly what prosecutors get paid for.
 
2014-01-11 05:51:03 PM

Oldiron_79: Pictures or it didn't happen


Shouldn't you be answering that knock at your door?
 
2014-01-11 05:51:20 PM
She's a biatch. She should face some repercussions for it. Child porn is a little steep for what she did, though.
 
2014-01-11 05:54:40 PM

ChubbyTiger: She's a biatch. She should face some repercussions for it. Child porn is a little steep for what she did, though.


Newsflash! Teenage girls b*tches and some of them carry these traits on in later years; best to nip it in the bud now. Child porn is a bit harsh.
 
2014-01-11 05:55:10 PM
I'm going to need to see this..."evidence" before I can make an informed opinion. Giggity.
 
2014-01-11 05:56:12 PM

OtherLittleGuy: MBK: um

Read the article

She sent pictures of her boyfriend's ex-girlfriend.

She should be charged.

This is "let's see how we can criminally charge kids with being mean" mentality.


This just a smidgen beyond teasing someone.
 
2014-01-11 05:57:14 PM

MBK: um

Read the article

She sent pictures of her boyfriend's ex-girlfriend.

She should be charged.


"She then texted five explicit pictures of the ex-girlfriend that she found on her boyfriend's phone "

Should the ex-boyfriend be charged with producing CP?
 
2014-01-11 05:58:24 PM

Benjimin_Dover: MBK: um

Read the article

She sent pictures of her boyfriend's ex-girlfriend.

She should be charged.

And if the pictures were in fact "child pornography" there should be charges for the boy since he was in possession of child pornography as was established by the court. It would seem to be an easy win.


I see you beat me to it.
 
2014-01-11 05:59:09 PM

Adebisi: vygramul: Prosecutors aren't paid to have discretion

The discretion whether or not to proceed (and how to proceed) with a case against someone accused of a criminal offence pretty much exactly what prosecutors get paid for.


We pretend that's why they get paid. The incentives we give them say otherwise.
 
2014-01-11 05:59:47 PM
I'm glad I grew up in a different time than kids today, everything they post/text/etc in an attempt to be cool is going to follow them for the rest of their lives.  I'd be in some serious trouble by now.

I gave one of my nephews the internet talk because he was already posting ridiculous stuff on Facebook and Vine.  He told me a story about a 12 year old girl who was the talk of the school because she posted a video of herself dancing on a stripper pole.  Thankfully she was fully clothed.  I tried to warn him that he could get in serious life altering trouble if he ever posted pictures of himself or others naked.  He's 12 though, that sort of warning really doesn't sink in at that age...
 
2014-01-11 06:00:17 PM
Ostracized as sex offender for life.

That will teach her to be a stupid immature kid (like we all were at one time).
 
2014-01-11 06:00:21 PM

a particular individual: MBK: um

Read the article

She sent pictures of her boyfriend's ex-girlfriend.

She should be charged.

"She then texted five explicit pictures of the ex-girlfriend that she found on her boyfriend's phone "

Should the ex-boyfriend be charged with producing possessing CP?


FTFY.  And the ex girlfriend would be charged with possession and distribution of cp.  Which is one of the reasons why the law needs to catch up to the technology and actually create an offense that doesn't have the ramifications of cp but gets the message out about how society views this..
 
2014-01-11 06:02:02 PM
Aaaaand thanks to the Young Offenders act all your arguments are invalid.  (which I agree with.)
 
2014-01-11 06:03:26 PM
And that's why child porn laws are ridiculous.

Why do we have laws against child sexual exploitation? To protect children.

What are those laws doing right now? Harming children.

This particular case? The photos were of someone else, but it's still just kids being (mean) kids. Freakin' grab her by the ear, sit her down in an interrogation room, and threaten her with all kinds of horrible things you could do to an adult till she cries; but then say we're lettin' you off with a warning this time. Don't do it again! (mean face) and that should be enough.

There's actual sexual exploitation out there. Slave trading, rape, murder, and worse. Busting out the big guns for a teenager being stupid with her boyfriend's cell phone? Criminal waste of court resources. Just like the lawyer said, it's just typical online bullying. That is criminal, but hitting a minor with child porn charges sets a terrible precedent.
 
2014-01-11 06:04:28 PM
Assume the child porn charge means that they could not find an appropriate change.

There is too much of this going on. Someone does something and the authorities try to work out what charge carries the maximum punishment.
 
2014-01-11 06:04:32 PM

pueblonative: Oldiron_79: Pictures or it didn't happen

Shouldn't you be answering that knock at your door?


Should and is are different words
 
2014-01-11 06:05:43 PM

vygramul: There's really no alternative. You have to make that illegal. There are too many ways in which that can go bad not to.

/Prosecutors aren't paid to have discretion


Exactly. If it weren't that way there would be pedophile rings using under aged runaways as their cut outs.
 
2014-01-11 06:06:16 PM

MBK: um

Read the article

She sent pictures of her boyfriend's ex-girlfriend.

She should be charged.



Agreed. I was all set to be angry until I read the article.

Punch yourself: Dumb
Punch other people: Criminal
Take selfies: Probably dumb (though I will have to see them to make sure)
Distribute selfies of a romantic rival without permission: Criminal, even if hot.
 
2014-01-11 06:06:25 PM

vygramul: Adebisi: vygramul: Prosecutors aren't paid to have discretion

The discretion whether or not to proceed (and how to proceed) with a case against someone accused of a criminal offence pretty much exactly what prosecutors get paid for.

We pretend that's why they get paid. The incentives we give them say otherwise.


Considering the fact prosecutors get paid a tiny fraction of what they would make in the private sector for doing the same work, you're 0/2 today.
 
2014-01-11 06:07:13 PM
I wonder if the NSA is storing these pictures?
 
2014-01-11 06:08:14 PM
Problem is that as a result of this, she may be on a sex offender registry for the rest of her life because of this. Not sure if Canada treats this the same as here in the US, where the minimum requirement is someone getting arrested for peeing outside.

It looks like a conviction would require her to register, yes.  However, in Canad, the National Sex Offender Registry is only available to the police, not the general public.  It is also possible (through rare) to get yourself taken off the list.  It's difficult to tell whether juveniles are treated differently.
 
2014-01-11 06:08:39 PM
What?  No pussy pass?  Wait, never mind.  She'll probably avoid the sex offender registry that isn't afforded to men that get caught urinating on walls.
 
2014-01-11 06:08:59 PM

Prophet of Loss: Ostracized as sex offender for life.

That will teach her to be a stupid immature kid (like we all were at one time).


Or not. You really need to read up on Canada's Youth Offender acts.
 
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