just_intonation: The last time I checked, the Church got to tell you what to do, not the other way around.
Felgraf: Xanadone: Farking sheep-stealers (as I was taught to call United Methodists -- well, not the farking part.) I prefer a more democratic (and less homophobic) church, like the United Church of Christ, even though UCC congregations sometimes get away with treating ministers like absolute crap.Yay, someone else who is aware that the UCC *exists*. (I grew up in a UCC church, and even if my spiritual views have drifted... I'm still very proud of them. The pastor recently got arrested in NC, for protesting the batshiat insanity that the legislature there has become...)Fubini: UCC churchs are largely open to believe what they want. They can be homophobic if they want. (Though it would be a little incongruous to do so.)While that was true for a while (Due to the congregationalist nature), most of the homophobes left after he 2005 synod, where the UCC *as a whole* voted to be Open and Affirming, and support gay marriage.It didn't really make the news, though. I couldn't even get it posted on fark.
Jim_Callahan: GardenWeasel:Really? RTFA:Yeah, he was fired after he came back under a new minister. That doesn't counter my interpretation, it supportsit. The congregation talks the new guy into hiring drama queen employee back, he presumably pulls the same shiat that pissed off the previous guy, and instead of waiting for the motherfarker to go off in a huff again the new boss, who has other more important shiat to do, treats him like a new hire (which, at this point, he IS. When you quit in a huff and then come back half a year later, you're ENTRY LEVEL now) and fires him for being an entitled dick that's dragging everyone else down with him."No longer supporting the minister" is management speak here for violating the chain of command and making trouble by acting like he owns the place. Which... is a very legitimate problem to have with an employee, and if they won't back down it's a very fireable one, because it wastes a huge amount of the boss's time that could be spent on actual useful tasks.
Fubini: This is one of those weird things that will only happen in a place like the Methodist Church. Most places have a democratic process (or at least a board of elders) who have the authority to kick out a new pastor who doesn't jive with the congregation's beliefs.
Fubini: pastor who doesn't jive with
Xanadone: Farking sheep-stealers (as I was taught to call United Methodists -- well, not the farking part.) I prefer a more democratic (and less homophobic) church, like the United Church of Christ, even though UCC congregations sometimes get away with treating ministers like absolute crap.
Fubini: UCC churchs are largely open to believe what they want. They can be homophobic if they want. (Though it would be a little incongruous to do so.)
Ima4nic8or: What did they expect? You pretty much have to assume that any guy who would take on the title of choral director is a flamer.
just_intonation: FTA: "It's almost like he's hijacked the church," David Steele said. "He is completely going against what the church body wants."The last time I checked, the Church got to tell you what to do, not the other way around. And that generally applies to all religions -- Christian, Jewish, Muslim, whatever.Now, having said that, I do applaud them for standing up for what they believe is right.
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