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(Ultimate Classic Rock)   Jason Newsted finally explains why he quit Metallica. It wasn't Lars's fault this time   (ultimateclassicrock.com ) divider line
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2014-01-11 03:24:58 PM  

Infernalist: mjohnson71: frepnog: TEA-PARTY-PATRIOT: Napster deal was the last straw for me oh so many years ago...

Lars was right.  Sorry.

How dare you make people pay for music! All music should be free! Fark paying musicians for the work they do.

It's more of a case of them encouraging people to share their music to get rich and famous and once they get rich and famous, vilifying people for sharing their music.

It's a dick move.


There are three types of people. Dicks, pussies and assholes. Lars is all three.
Hetfield is two and the other two are just one.
 
2014-01-11 03:43:12 PM  
Metallica? Why are we talking about them? They were great, but they haven't put out an album since 1988.

Just like there is no Highlander 2.
 
2014-01-11 03:47:08 PM  

mongbiohazard: Metallica? Why are we talking about them? They were great, but they haven't put out an album since 1988.

Just like there is no Highlander 2.


If there'd been justice in the world, Cliff would have survived that accident and Lars would have been the one lost.
 
2014-01-11 03:50:11 PM  

zappaisfrank: I saw Metallica live with Cliff Burton twice opening for Ozzy Osbourne  in '86. I knew nothing about their music but the music press had been hyping them for a bit beforehand.

I  walked away from both shows feeling exactly the same as I did before the shows, largely because they had really crummy sound systems and the songs were just big balls of chaotic noise with no real way to decode or decipher what I was hearing. I couldn't have repeated back even one verse from any of their songs because you couldn't make out what the lyrics even were. I remember the drummer bashing away, the three front guys flipping their heads around and Hetfield yelling into the mic, but nothing distinctive emerged.

The most memorable part was at one of the shows, the crowd broke the barricade down front and security guys kept having to lift people over the top who were unconscious after having been crushed against it by the crowd. They stopped the show several times (during Ozzy's set, also) to tell the crowd to move back. It was during a July heat wave and it was over 100 degrees inside the place.

Never developed a liking for Metallica. Never saw what all the fuss was about.


well, you were the hold out, because that tour was the beginning of Metallica being the biggest metal band in the world, and a lot of it was due to that tour - when they were routinely blowing Ozzy off the stage.
 
2014-01-11 03:50:45 PM  

mongbiohazard: Metallica? Why are we talking about them? They were great, but they haven't put out an album since 1988.

Just like there is no Highlander 2.


And no Godfather III?
 
2014-01-11 03:54:28 PM  

frepnog: I personally feel that Load and Re-Load should have been released as one good album instead of two mediocre ones. much like Use Your Illusion should have been. There is an album's worth of good Metallica between the two discs.


There's a few good songs on both. If they got rid of the crap and merged them into one album, it would've been slightly below black album in quality.

IMO, Master of Puppets > Ride the Lightning > Kill 'em All > Justice > Black >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Load >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reload
 
2014-01-11 03:55:43 PM  

New Age Redneck: which included an endless variety of pranks and having his bass too low in the mix on "...and Justice for All"

There was a bass recorded on that album? Who knew?


Way to stick it to the new guy! Morons.
 
2014-01-11 03:57:20 PM  
Is there another band with such a big gap between the quality of their (early) music and the quality of the people in it?

If you say "Oasis" please kick yourself in the nuts for me.
 
2014-01-11 04:15:26 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Who didn't want to escape the Titanic?


You're thinking of a different band:

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-11 04:48:06 PM  

lifeboat: Anyway, Metallica's loss, really.


Seriously.

Let's just all take a moment and reminisce on the talent they were sitting on for almost 14 years and never used.
 
2014-01-11 04:59:31 PM  
BTW in their early days Metallica encouraged fans to make copies of Kill 'em All and give them to friends. It's more than just the live shows.
 
2014-01-11 05:33:26 PM  
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2014-01-11 05:50:33 PM  

Infernalist: I'm willing to with C) Hetfield and Lars are both assholes.


Yeah.  I'm not surprised that one of the 2 are the reason that Newsted left.  It's pretty clear that between Ulrich and Hetfield, there's more than enough ego for a band...no room for doing anything outside of that.   And yes, they're probably both raging asshats.

It reminded me of this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIuR5TNyL8Y (Metallica vs. Napster)
 
2014-01-11 06:06:11 PM  
  My friends told me years ago that they were doing some project with a famous musician.  Since a few had done some stuff with Neil Young, I thought iyt was going to be Bridge School people.  Turned out to be Jason.  Nice guy that wants to help out budding musicians, while James and Lars weren't.  I found out he was leaving Metallica before they did.  Echobrain was a cool band.  They put out some cool stuff.

/and Metallica did a song with Ja Rule
 
2014-01-11 06:27:26 PM  
Eh, not exactly a revelation since Hetfield stated Newsted's side-project activity is what led to the break up back when it happened.  Back when they hired on Jason I was pretty psyched since I was a big fan of Flotsam and Jetsam at the time.  Metallica bottomed out for me after And Justice for All.  I always got a kick out of how a band that largely got noticed through bootlegs became the poster children to endorse the RIAA asshattery.
 
2014-01-11 06:46:43 PM  

frepnog: Never developed a liking for Metallica. KISS/Grateful Dead/Phish/Pink Floyd. Never saw what all the fuss was about.


Fixed for me.
 
2014-01-11 06:54:18 PM  

frepnog: zappaisfrank: I saw Metallica live with Cliff Burton twice opening for Ozzy Osbourne  in '86. I knew nothing about their music but the music press had been hyping them for a bit beforehand.

I  walked away from both shows feeling exactly the same as I did before the shows, largely because they had really crummy sound systems and the songs were just big balls of chaotic noise with no real way to decode or decipher what I was hearing. I couldn't have repeated back even one verse from any of their songs because you couldn't make out what the lyrics even were. I remember the drummer bashing away, the three front guys flipping their heads around and Hetfield yelling into the mic, but nothing distinctive emerged.

The most memorable part was at one of the shows, the crowd broke the barricade down front and security guys kept having to lift people over the top who were unconscious after having been crushed against it by the crowd. They stopped the show several times (during Ozzy's set, also) to tell the crowd to move back. It was during a July heat wave and it was over 100 degrees inside the place.

Never developed a liking for Metallica. Never saw what all the fuss was about.

well, you were the hold out, because that tour was the beginning of Metallica being the biggest metal band in the world, and a lot of it was due to that tour - when they were routinely blowing Ozzy off the stage.


I remember it being a big rock press phenomenon, but if it had been based strictly on music it probably would not have gone so well. It was a high profile tour because it was for Ozzy's "Ultimate Sin" album which put him on the MTV map with the "Shot In The Dark" video and was probably his "biggest" album yet at that time. I thought the album sucked balls but the hair metal teeny boppers who watched MTV loved it.
 
2014-01-11 07:13:38 PM  

Fox10456: Planet Piss


Hahahaha well done
 
2014-01-11 07:53:05 PM  
I watched the whole video.  We already knew the basics of the story, but he's never gone into this much detail before.  Interesting stuff.

Also interesting is the next story he tells about meeting Metallica's therapist:  "You don't know me, you don't know this band, you don't know what we've been through.  Get the fark out.  I wasn't nice about it".
 
2014-01-11 09:05:38 PM  
I'm going to go ahead and agree with those that got angered (SAINT ANGERED NO LESS) at Mighty Met for being hypocrites with the Napster deal.  Yeah, they did have the legal ground (fyi copyright isn't theft, you are making a copy of original work and hinder the original owner's ability to earn income from that copy) but yeah, when they were breaking out, they were one of those bands that pushed for their fans to bootleg and spread their music, only to turn around and play that card after they became rich.

YEAH-UH
 
2014-01-11 09:11:00 PM  

Infernalist: frepnog: Infernalist: vilifying people for sharing their music.

as I said, they never had a problem with people recording shows and never cared who you shared that with.

Of course not, it helped them get famous.

On a personal note, once I buy an album or pay to watch a movie, I consider it completely acceptable to download it again at a later date.

And yes, if I could, I'd download a car.


26.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-11 10:39:09 PM  

frepnog: Madbassist1: Dougie AXP: It's not theft. It's copyright infringement and is completely different.

LOL if that makes you feel better, sport.

I just knew I liked you for some reason.

Madbassist1: This is a stupid statement regurgitated because you heard it somewhere before, and have no idea if it's true or not.

No, it's true.  They hazed the shiat out of Jason and he never really became "one of them".

Dougie AXP: It has created a copy of the work.

sit in a theater and record a movie being shown.  after all, you are just creating a copy.

see how that works out for you.


Or walk into a Best Buy, grab 20 or 30 CDs/BluRays off the shelves, walk right out of the store, get in your car and see what happens.
 
2014-01-11 11:32:48 PM  

Infernalist: frepnog: TEA-PARTY-PATRIOT: Napster deal was the last straw for me oh so many years ago...

Lars was right.  Sorry.

Considering how often they encouraged their fans to make tapes of their stage shows and share them with their friends, it seems a tad bit hypocritical to say 'omfg theft' after they made it big and famous and rich.

That's why they're assholes.

Lars especially.


They were more concerned with people stealing their studio recordings...
 
2014-01-11 11:35:55 PM  

frepnog: New Age Redneck: which included an endless variety of pranks and having his bass too low in the mix on "...and Justice for All"

There was a bass recorded on that album? Who knew?

get the discreet guitar hero tracks for the songs from ...Justice.

pretty amazing, really.


Here's the whole album - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kqTcLwUYj8
 
2014-01-12 12:29:53 AM  
rayamico.com
//they were assholes to JN.
 
2014-01-12 01:20:15 AM  

mjones73: frepnog: New Age Redneck: which included an endless variety of pranks and having his bass too low in the mix on "...and Justice for All"

There was a bass recorded on that album? Who knew?

get the discreet guitar hero tracks for the songs from ...Justice.

pretty amazing, really.

Here's the whole album - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kqTcLwUYj8


If Blackened is anything to judge it by, Jason spent most of his time just doubling the rhythm guitar, a couple octaves lower. Musicianship aside, it sounds a lot better with the bass at normal levels
 
2014-01-12 02:45:52 AM  

mjones73: frepnog: New Age Redneck: which included an endless variety of pranks and having his bass too low in the mix on "...and Justice for All"

There was a bass recorded on that album? Who knew?

get the discreet guitar hero tracks for the songs from ...Justice.

pretty amazing, really.

Here's the whole album - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kqTcLwUYj8


Turning the bass up way too high isn't really an improvement either.
 
2014-01-12 07:23:34 AM  

CSM101: mjones73: frepnog: New Age Redneck: which included an endless variety of pranks and having his bass too low in the mix on "...and Justice for All"

There was a bass recorded on that album? Who knew?

get the discreet guitar hero tracks for the songs from ...Justice.

pretty amazing, really.

Here's the whole album - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kqTcLwUYj8

If Blackened is anything to judge it by, Jason spent most of his time just doubling the rhythm guitar, a couple octaves lower. Musicianship aside, it sounds a lot better with the bass at normal levels


AJFA The song is a major improvement. Does a lot of nifty things that got buried.

Stupid James Hetfiekd.
 
2014-01-12 08:20:48 AM  

sotua: CSM101: mjones73: frepnog: New Age Redneck: which included an endless variety of pranks and having his bass too low in the mix on "...and Justice for All"

There was a bass recorded on that album? Who knew?

get the discreet guitar hero tracks for the songs from ...Justice.

pretty amazing, really.

Here's the whole album - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kqTcLwUYj8

If Blackened is anything to judge it by, Jason spent most of his time just doubling the rhythm guitar, a couple octaves lower. Musicianship aside, it sounds a lot better with the bass at normal levels

AJFA The song is a major improvement. Does a lot of nifty things that got buried.

Stupid James Hetfiekd.


If they ever did a serious and genuine remix of that album with the bass where it should be, I would buy it...but only if the royalty agreement heavily favored Newstead.
 
2014-01-12 08:24:44 AM  

Infernalist: I'm willing to with C) Hetfield and Lars are both assholes.


As someone who read TA I must confirm your guess is essentially correct.
 
2014-01-12 02:47:13 PM  

frepnog: New Age Redneck: which included an endless variety of pranks and having his bass too low in the mix on "...and Justice for All"

There was a bass recorded on that album? Who knew?

get the discreet guitar hero tracks for the songs from ...Justice.

pretty amazing, really.


People have posted them to YouTube.

Blackened just follows the rhythm guitar for the most part.  No big loss.

One is a little better but OTOH it's also audible in the mix.
 
2014-01-12 02:53:20 PM  

machoprogrammer: .

There's a few good songs on both. If they got rid of the crap and merged them into one album, it would've been slightly below black album in quality.

IMO, Master of Puppets > Ride the Lightning > Kill 'em All > Justice > Black >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Load >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reload


I agree with you 99% except that I'd put KEA pretty much equal to Ride.
 
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