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2014-01-11 09:23:23 AM  
7 votes:
What kinda jerk would make the employees pay for deadbeat customers. . .

*click link*

Evans, who ran for local office as a Republican candidate

Oh, never mind.
2014-01-11 12:54:03 PM  
3 votes:
shlabotnik:
My point is that this is shiatty journalism. The fact that this guy once ran for a Republican office has nothing to do with the fact that he is a scumbag restaurant owner. If there is a woman in Orlando running for political office with 21 arrests, the public should know which party she belongs to.

Not if the election is non partisan, dumbass.
2014-01-11 12:09:28 PM  
3 votes:
This is beautiful.

This guy pulls a scumbag maneuver and the article is quick to point out that he once ran for office as a Republican (which has nothing to do with the story).

Scroll down a bit and find the Orlando lady running for office with 21 arrests and try to find out which party she belongs to.

/crickets
2014-01-11 10:39:49 AM  
3 votes:
There may not be a bigger class of assholes in the world than restaurant owners.
2014-01-11 12:11:11 PM  
2 votes:

shlabotnik: This is beautiful.

This guy pulls a scumbag maneuver and the article is quick to point out that he once ran for office as a Republican (which has nothing to do with the story).

Scroll down a bit and find the Orlando lady running for office with 21 arrests and try to find out which party she belongs to.

/crickets


Of the two parties, which one likes to pretend like it's the Party of Morality and Ethical Behavior?
2014-01-11 12:07:05 PM  
2 votes:
When reached at his home by phone on Friday, Evans, who ran for local office as a Republican candidate in the 1990s, declined to say anything relating to the settlement or the accusations against him and his business.

I've come to the conclusion that the vast majority of voters are totally stupid - If you make less that 100K a year voting for the money-grubbing, selfish, stingy conservative types is shooting yourself in thew foot.

Oh, yes, they seem so righteous, spouting god all the time, zero tolerance and good ol' family values, they always wear nice suits, they have perfect hairstyles and they support longer prison terms for all those criminals (except for while-collar-types!), but in reality they ONLY CARE ABOUT THEIR PEERS.
2014-01-11 11:11:23 AM  
2 votes:
What an asshole. I worked in that biz for ten years, only had 1 dine and dash. Of course the restaurant covers that. I'm not a f*cking bouncer. Had one friend jump on the hood of a limo as his dash was making their getaway. He rode that limo for a good mile before they stopped. Good times. Good times.
2014-01-11 09:43:54 AM  
2 votes:
Forcing servers to pay for dine and dash customers is against the law, but it is nonetheless very widespread in the industry.
2014-01-11 02:29:52 PM  
1 votes:

gja: Infernalist: gja: pueblonative: jjorsett: I assume you're going to say, Republican. You do realize that would imply that Democrats don't even bother pretending to morality and ethics, right?

No, they just do.  Like, say, the once married, never divorced father of two President vs a four times married, thrice divorced, childless pill popper.

Or the sax playing, cigar-twat-stuffing fella?

Funniest part of the whole Lowensky 'scandal' is that it made Clinton's approval ratings go up.  It's just not a scandal when most people expect that sort of thing to happen to the President.

Oh, and for the record, I really LIKE Bill. However, his is, and they ALL are, politicians. So they all have filthy hands.
They all suck. They all lie. They all break laws you and I would end up jailed for. Not one of them has any serious moral fortitude.

Show me one from recent history that has not been caught in the cookie jar or some girls panties or broken laws.
Can't be done, they all have managed to screw that pooch one way or the other.


Yep, they're all dirty.

That said, only one party wants to outlaw gay people, make Christianity the official religion of the US and act like cartoon polluting villains from Captain Planet.

Once you accept that both parties are corrupt, then you only have to look at their public agendas to see which one you should vote for.
2014-01-11 01:45:08 PM  
1 votes:

pueblonative: What kinda jerk would make the employees pay for deadbeat customers. . .

*click link*

Evans, who ran for local office as a Republican candidate

Oh, never mind.


Yep, as soon as I saw that, it explained everything.
2014-01-11 01:14:32 PM  
1 votes:

jjorsett: pueblonative: jjorsett: I assume you're going to say, Republican. You do realize that would imply that Democrats don't even bother pretending to morality and ethics, right?

No, they just do.  Like, say, the once married, never divorced father of two President vs a four times married, thrice divorced, childless pill popper.

If we're going to tar entire groups via the failings of their individual members, then Bill Clinton, Bob Torricelli, William Jefferson, Jesse Jackson Jr. to name a few that immediately spring to mind.


It's easy to tar the GOP as hypocrites.  See, they proclaim themselves to be the party of morality and ethics, but their members regularly get busted being unethical and immoral and often criminal.

Their hypocrisy only gets compounded when the GOP rallies around their immoral fellows and refuse to condemn him, making excuses and splitting hairs so as to condone and/or ignore the misdeeds of their fellow GOPers.

It's mostly because if they excised their busted brethren, it might be 'them' getting thrown out of the GOP next when their misdeeds are uncovered.

That's why Americans consider the GOP to be a party of holier than thou hypocrites who talk a good game, but are fairly worse than the dirtiest Democrat.
2014-01-11 01:00:11 PM  
1 votes:

jjorsett: I assume you're going to say, Republican. You do realize that would imply that Democrats don't even bother pretending to morality and ethics, right?


No, they just do.  Like, say, the once married, never divorced father of two President vs a four times married, thrice divorced, childless pill popper.
2014-01-11 12:51:26 PM  
1 votes:

MBrady: Just because he ran as a Republican doesn't necessarily mean he IS a Republican.


Or at least not a true Scotsman Republican.
2014-01-11 12:50:42 PM  
1 votes:

MBrady: pueblonative: What kinda jerk would make the employees pay for deadbeat customers. . .

*click link*

Evans, who ran for local office as a Republican candidate

Oh, never mind.

Just because he ran as a Republican doesn't necessarily mean he IS a Republican.  Lots of people run for local office as the opposite party to get a shot at winning.

Like Arlen Specter, who changed parties when it suited him - so that he would not lose.


Overall, you may have a point, and of course neither party has a monopoly on bad actors, but his behaviour just seems so very Republican.  Of the two parties, only one seems to find an almost sexual thrill out of treating the working poor like they were lower than whale poop.  Now, if he was caught smoking pot and not paying his taxes, I could agree that he was likely a Dem running as a Republican out of political convenience.
2014-01-11 12:44:44 PM  
1 votes:

Infernalist: shlabotnik: This is beautiful.

This guy pulls a scumbag maneuver and the article is quick to point out that he once ran for office as a Republican (which has nothing to do with the story).

Scroll down a bit and find the Orlando lady running for office with 21 arrests and try to find out which party she belongs to.

/crickets

Of the two parties, which one likes to pretend like it's the Party of Morality and Ethical Behavior?


I assume you're going to say, Republican. You do realize that would imply that Democrats don't even bother pretending to morality and ethics, right?
2014-01-11 12:42:43 PM  
1 votes:

Infernalist: shlabotnik: Infernalist: shlabotnik: This is beautiful.

This guy pulls a scumbag maneuver and the article is quick to point out that he once ran for office as a Republican (which has nothing to do with the story).

Scroll down a bit and find the Orlando lady running for office with 21 arrests and try to find out which party she belongs to.

/crickets

Of the two parties, which one likes to pretend like it's the Party of Morality and Ethical Behavior?

Irrelevant, and you missed my point.

Political party has nothing to do with this article because he is not running for office. Political party has everything to do with the Orlando article because she is running for office.

Your point isn't one.

The reason why it's always a big deal when the GOP gets busted doing immoral and illegal crap is because they spend so much time and effort portraying themselves as the Moral Authority and the Party of Family Values and Christianity.

So when they get busted in a bus station bathroom offering to pay strangers for the right to blow them, or they get busted stealing from the employees, people rightfully get a hoot out of their hypocrisy and rubbing their faces in it.

Democrats?  You know they're politicians and smarmy and slick and probably corrupt(mostly), but they try to do the right thing most of the time.  That's why scandals have a hard time sticking to them, people have just accepted that most Democrats are a little corrupt and dirty but that's not a deal-breaker in their eyes.


Let's try this again.

My point is that this is shiatty journalism. The fact that this guy once ran for a Republican office has nothing to do with the fact that he is a scumbag restaurant owner. If there is a woman in Orlando running for political office with 21 arrests, the public should know which party she belongs to.

But I guess my point "isn't one."
2014-01-11 12:41:02 PM  
1 votes:

Trackball: It is almost as if you have totally forgotten what our federal government is getting away with on a daily basis while in Democrat hands.


let's see here:

House of Representatives: majority republican
Senate:  majority democrat, but Repubs still have the power to force supermajorities on SCOTUS nominees and bills
SCOTUS: majority republican
President: Democrat and term limited.

Now who's hands is it in again?
2014-01-11 12:30:26 PM  
1 votes:

pueblonative: What kinda jerk would make the employees pay for deadbeat customers. . .

*click link*

Evans, who ran for local office as a Republican candidate

Oh, never mind.


It is almost as if you have totally forgotten what our federal government is getting away with on a daily basis while in Democrat hands.
2014-01-11 12:25:36 PM  
1 votes:

Infernalist: shlabotnik: This is beautiful.

This guy pulls a scumbag maneuver and the article is quick to point out that he once ran for office as a Republican (which has nothing to do with the story).

Scroll down a bit and find the Orlando lady running for office with 21 arrests and try to find out which party she belongs to.

/crickets

Of the two parties, which one likes to pretend like it's the Party of Morality and Ethical Behavior?


Irrelevant, and you missed my point.

Political party has nothing to do with this article because he is not running for office. Political party has everything to do with the Orlando article because she is running for office.
2014-01-11 12:25:21 PM  
1 votes:

shlabotnik: This is beautiful.

This guy pulls a scumbag maneuver and the article is quick to point out that he once ran for office as a Republican (which has nothing to do with the story).

Scroll down a bit and find the Orlando lady running for office with 21 arrests and try to find out which party she belongs to.

/crickets


I'm guessing she is not part of the Party of Family Values, Ethics and Morality like the guy who steals money from minimum wage waitresses?
2014-01-11 12:22:32 PM  
1 votes:
You mean a republican wants to pay less than minimum wage and build his profits on the backs of low-income workers? All that's missing is some child labor.
2014-01-11 12:15:55 PM  
1 votes:

pueblonative: BunkyBrewman: Exactly my point. I have yet to see someone charged for a dine and dash customer... ever.

And because Phil Robertson turned his head quickly enough so that he never saw an incident of bigotry and persecution against the knee grows that didn't happen either, right?


There are over 611,000 restaurants in the United States.  Finding a story or two about how a server was charged or a dine and dash customer still doesn't mean it's an issue, at all.

But hey, compare it to an actual issue with your fallacy response.   That'll win an argument on the internet.
2014-01-11 12:01:11 PM  
1 votes:

pueblonative: What kinda jerk would make the employees pay for deadbeat customers. . .

*click link*

Evans, who ran for local office as a Republican candidate

Oh, never mind.


Done in one.
2014-01-11 11:58:33 AM  
1 votes:
Never had to pay for a meal if I worked more than a 6hr shift. Just had to account for the food.
2014-01-11 11:57:37 AM  
1 votes:

Prank Call of Cthulhu: You're not allowed to take a cut of employees' tips?

[godswillchurch.com image 850x481]


Pooling is allowed, but non-service employees, managers, and owners are specifically excluded.

Oddly, at the low level crap like iHOP and Denny's it is fairly uncommon because it's damned easy for a W&L complaint especially when it almost certainly puts the employee below the minimum wage.

It's unfortunately FAR too common at the higher end restaurants.
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-01-11 11:26:01 AM  
1 votes:

BunkyBrewman: Sybarite: Forcing servers to pay for dine and dash customers is against the law, but it is nonetheless very widespread in the industry.

No. It is not.

/not even if you keep repeating it, it still won't be a widespread issue


That's an oddly defensive response.
2014-01-11 11:21:39 AM  
1 votes:

BunkyBrewman: Sybarite: Forcing servers to pay for dine and dash customers is against the law, but it is nonetheless very widespread in the industry.

No. It is not.

/not even if you keep repeating it, it still won't be a widespread issue



Hmmm
2014-01-11 10:33:56 AM  
1 votes:

BunkyBrewman: Sybarite: Forcing servers to pay for dine and dash customers is against the law, but it is nonetheless very widespread in the industry.

No. It is not.

/not even if you keep repeating it, it still won't be a widespread issue


This I waited tables for 5 years at 10 different restaurants I never had to pay for a dine and dasher.  I also never had to pay for an employee meal if I didn't have one. I also never had to clock out for a break unless I left the restaurant.
 
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