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(BusinessWeek)   White House denies Robert Gates's charge that Vice President Biden is often wrong, says they want to set the record straight that Biden is always wrong   (businessweek.com) divider line 102
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2014-01-11 01:35:40 PM

RevRaven: I don't think anyone's surprised that people see Biden as a boob. He's been a public buffoon for years.


It's so cute when AM radio listeners think their beliefs are widely held among normal people.
 
2014-01-11 01:55:03 PM
acrookedpath.com
 
2014-01-11 01:58:39 PM

RevRaven: I don't think anyone's surprised that people see Biden as a boob. He's been a public buffoon for years.


Why do you hate boobs!?!?!
 
2014-01-11 02:06:44 PM
Mad Tea Party: "joe biden ice cream" is one of the most rewarding google image searches ever. The man likes himself some ice cream, that's for sure.

there's much swooning going on there
 
2014-01-11 02:12:54 PM
Joe Veep sure rocks the shades.
 
2014-01-11 02:17:07 PM
I learned long ago that the only ones that make no mistakes, are the ones that do nothing.

So, Good News Congress!
 
2014-01-11 02:18:10 PM

toadist: Biden,  well bless his heart.


I would say he means well,  but I don't think he means well.


So, describe for us how you think Joe does not mean well, even though you SAID he means well.

Don't be blowing both hot n cold air outta yo mouth without something to back it up, son.
 
2014-01-11 02:20:52 PM
In before circle jerk...

Oh wait, too late.
 
2014-01-11 02:24:48 PM

jaytkay: RevRaven: I don't think anyone's surprised that people see Biden as a boob. He's been a public buffoon for years.

It's so cute when AM radio listeners think their beliefs are widely held among normal people.


I've been waiting for years now to see the "human gaffe machine" as people like this refer to him as, actually make these horrible, endless gaffes that he supposedly makes.

The man all but made Paul Ryan cry in the VP debates, and was smart enough to soundly beat Sarah Palin but held back enough to not look like he was "beating up a woman."  He's incredibly intelligent, seems to be kind, and I'd say most people generally don't have problems with him.
 
2014-01-11 02:30:01 PM
In other news, everyone is often wrong.
 
2014-01-11 02:31:44 PM

machoprogrammer: In before circle jerk...

Oh wait, too late.


When you see political discourse, do you often visualize homosexual masturbation games?

Or is it only when you come to Fark?
 
2014-01-11 02:35:25 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-11 02:45:40 PM
I like Biden. And Gates is just another right wing low-life.
 
2014-01-11 02:53:03 PM
www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-01-11 03:01:40 PM

NewportBarGuy: Gates can shut up about Biden. At the very least he's one of the most humane people we have in higher office. He's an actual human being.

The eulogy he gave for Senator Claiborne Pell was something I'll never forget.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF8rao42p6Y


My favorite moment from him is speaking to TAPS about losing a loved one. Absolute human moment that we do not see often from politicians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZ6UfXm410
 
2014-01-11 03:01:59 PM
So Robert Gates blames everyone but himself and writes a book about it.  Well OK then.
 
2014-01-11 03:04:21 PM

Kome: My favorite moment from him is speaking to TAPS about losing a loved one. Absolute human moment that we do not see often from politicians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZ6UfXm410


Also

VP Biden on Rep. Joe Barton's Apology to BP
 
2014-01-11 03:04:24 PM
It just burns Republicans up, that the Democratic President has a VP who is actually likable, after 8 years of VP Palpatine.
 
2014-01-11 03:06:02 PM
 
2014-01-11 03:08:26 PM
Joe Biden is a goddamn 'merkin institution
 
2014-01-11 03:13:56 PM

Kome: NewportBarGuy: Gates can shut up about Biden. At the very least he's one of the most humane people we have in higher office. He's an actual human being.

The eulogy he gave for Senator Claiborne Pell was something I'll never forget.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF8rao42p6Y

My favorite moment from him is speaking to TAPS about losing a loved one. Absolute human moment that we do not see often from politicians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZ6UfXm410


I feel a little silly for my post now. That was pretty powerful and I had forgotten about it.

Thanks for reminding me.
 
2014-01-11 03:14:53 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Joe Biden is a goddamn 'merkin institution


He's a big fnckin' deal!
 
2014-01-11 03:21:37 PM
What's that you say? A Republican hired by a Democratic president as a show of bipartisanship turns around and bites his benefactor in the ass to drum up publicity for his new book? Color me surprised. Jon Huntsman has demonstrated that reaching across the aisle is the kiss of death in Republican politics (as Chris Christie will learn soon enough), so what choice does Gates have except to stab his former employer in the back in order to cash in?

Really, at this point, in order to remain Republican you have to be stupid, greedy, racist, religiously intolerant, misogynistic, homophobic, some combination, or all of the above. I will simply never vote for a Republican candidate again, ever, for any office (I must admit, in the last election I did write in Romney's name for animal control officer). Nobody worthy of my vote would register Republican in the first place. Time for that party to die.
 
2014-01-11 03:36:26 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Also

VP Biden on Rep. Joe Barton's Apology to BP


Wow.... I never saw this before.  Holy crap.  As he goes on, he really lets go. And he's 100% correct.

This is amazing.
 
2014-01-11 03:38:27 PM

Infernalist: machoprogrammer: In before circle jerk...

Oh wait, too late.

When you see political discourse, do you often visualize homosexual masturbation games?

Or is it only when you come to Fark?


Do you have a better term for this thread?
 
2014-01-11 03:40:05 PM

clambam: I must admit, in the last election I did write in Romney's name for animal control officer


I lol'd
 
2014-01-11 03:40:21 PM

theknuckler_33: My fav Joe moment:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3DHj1XWDIw


And that is exactly why so many people genuinely like him.  That was funny, but it was also really clear that they love each other and have a happy relationship together.
 
2014-01-11 03:43:18 PM
armchair-murderer says what now?
 
2014-01-11 03:43:20 PM
"Domestic political considerations would therefore be a factor, though I believe never a decisive one, in virtually every major national security problem we tackled," Gates wrote.

Damn fool if, for even a fraction of a second, 'domestic policy considerations' aren't at the top of the list for every farking issue ever considered by pretty much every government on Earth since the beginning of time.
 
2014-01-11 03:43:31 PM

machoprogrammer: Infernalist: machoprogrammer: In before circle jerk...

Oh wait, too late.

When you see political discourse, do you often visualize homosexual masturbation games?

Or is it only when you come to Fark?

Do you have a better term for this thread?


Political back-and-forth?  Trolls trolling trolls who are trolling?

I mean, if you're seeing something else in your mind's eye, that's all you, man, I'm just wondering why most conservatives seem to fixate on gay activity.
 
2014-01-11 03:45:07 PM

Infernalist: machoprogrammer: Infernalist: machoprogrammer: In before circle jerk...

Oh wait, too late.

When you see political discourse, do you often visualize homosexual masturbation games?

Or is it only when you come to Fark?

Do you have a better term for this thread?

Political back-and-forth?  Trolls trolling trolls who are trolling?

I mean, if you're seeing something else in your mind's eye, that's all you, man, I'm just wondering why most conservatives seem to fixate on gay activity.


This thread is not political back and forth (with a few exceptions). It is mostly mindless love of Biden because he has a silly Onion meme and often has humorous photo-ops.

You think I am conservative? Oh, wait, this is Fark Politics. Anyone who ever doesn't like a Democrat for whatever reason is a conservative. I forgot.
 
2014-01-11 03:45:13 PM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: "Domestic political considerations would therefore be a factor, though I believe never a decisive one, in virtually every major national security problem we tackled," Gates wrote.

Damn fool if, for even a fraction of a second, 'domestic policy considerations' aren't at the top of the list for every farking issue ever considered by pretty much every government on Earth since the beginning of time.


It 'is' amusing how outraged Gates seems to be about the fact that the President weighs all factors of a situation, including its political impact abroad and at home.

Maybe he's used to Bush's way of 'screw it all, let's invade something' mentality.
 
2014-01-11 03:54:35 PM

machoprogrammer: It is mostly mindless love of Biden because he has a silly Onion meme and often has humorous photo-ops.


Mindless? You must have missed the several links to extemporaneous speeches of his that were quite good, and powerful.
 
2014-01-11 03:54:57 PM

clambam: What's that you say? A Republican hired by a Democratic president as a show of bipartisanship turns around and bites his benefactor in the ass to drum up publicity for his new book? Color me surprised. Jon Huntsman has demonstrated that reaching across the aisle is the kiss of death in Republican politics (as Chris Christie will learn soon enough), so what choice does Gates have except to stab his former employer in the back in order to cash in?

Really, at this point, in order to remain Republican you have to be stupid, greedy, racist, religiously intolerant, misogynistic, homophobic, some combination, or all of the above. I will simply never vote for a Republican candidate again, ever, for any office (I must admit, in the last election I did write in Romney's name for animal control officer). Nobody worthy of my vote would register Republican in the first place. Time for that party to die.


I wouldn't say it was because he's a republican. Afghanistan has always been a fark up and he has written a book to cover his ass and make some money in the process.
 
2014-01-11 04:01:39 PM

machoprogrammer: Infernalist: machoprogrammer: Infernalist: machoprogrammer: In before circle jerk...

Oh wait, too late.

When you see political discourse, do you often visualize homosexual masturbation games?

Or is it only when you come to Fark?

Do you have a better term for this thread?

Political back-and-forth?  Trolls trolling trolls who are trolling?

I mean, if you're seeing something else in your mind's eye, that's all you, man, I'm just wondering why most conservatives seem to fixate on gay activity.

This thread is not political back and forth (with a few exceptions). It is mostly mindless love of Biden because he has a silly Onion meme and often has humorous photo-ops.

You think I am conservative? Oh, wait, this is Fark Politics. Anyone who ever doesn't like a Democrat for whatever reason is a conservative. I forgot.


I've never seen a rational person snark on Biden, only conservatives.  And it's a well-established conserva-trope that Biden is a 'buffoon.'

So are you an actual idiot, or are you just pretending?
 
2014-01-11 04:10:53 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Why... Why would he even INCLUDE that in his book?


Doublethink.
 
2014-01-11 04:12:52 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Doktor_Zhivago: Joe Biden is a goddamn 'merkin institution

He's a big fnckin' deal!


As opposed to Gate's book which aint so much.

That noted, I'ma perplexed here.

Should this one go down in the books as Gates-gate for the pure repetitive fun of it or shall it be known as Gates-ghazi cos that's the style of the times?

From a brief scan of the excerpts of this book it looks like it's mostly fan boi praise of Obama with a few tepid criticisms which are being played up in the media in a slow news week. There are also some comments which seem to display shocking amounts of political naivete and a very narrow world view.

A big block of meh wrapped in a dust cover for the most part.
 
2014-01-11 05:04:06 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: MSFT: The most recent Onion article on Biden has him frantically hitting up staff for "clean piss".

I would vote him VP for life if given the option.

Love to see him as Hillary's vp.


i read that too quickly as "love to seem him in hillary's lap"

teehee

same thing
 
2014-01-11 05:51:04 PM

machoprogrammer: Infernalist: machoprogrammer: Infernalist: machoprogrammer: In before circle jerk...

Oh wait, too late.

When you see political discourse, do you often visualize homosexual masturbation games?

Or is it only when you come to Fark?

Do you have a better term for this thread?

Political back-and-forth?  Trolls trolling trolls who are trolling?

I mean, if you're seeing something else in your mind's eye, that's all you, man, I'm just wondering why most conservatives seem to fixate on gay activity.

This thread is not political back and forth (with a few exceptions). It is mostly mindless love of Biden because he has a silly Onion meme and often has humorous photo-ops.

You think I am conservative? Oh, wait, this is Fark Politics. Anyone who ever doesn't like a Democrat for whatever reason is a conservative. I forgot.


Did you give a reason? I didn't see one. Please elaborate.
 
2014-01-11 06:03:19 PM

cameroncrazy1984: machoprogrammer: It is mostly mindless love of Biden because he has a silly Onion meme and often has humorous photo-ops.

Mindless? You must have missed the several links to extemporaneous speeches of his that were quite good, and powerful.


It's shocking that he didn't make another appearance in this thread.

And by 'shocking', I mean 'totally predictable'.
 
2014-01-11 06:35:15 PM

Kome: him is speaking to TAPS about losing a loved one. Absolute human moment that we do not see often from politicians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZ6UfXm410


Joe has been through the wringer. He's a good man for sharing the experience.
 
2014-01-11 07:49:57 PM

theknuckler_33: machoprogrammer: Infernalist: machoprogrammer: Infernalist: machoprogrammer: In before circle jerk...

Oh wait, too late.

When you see political discourse, do you often visualize homosexual masturbation games?

Or is it only when you come to Fark?

Do you have a better term for this thread?

Political back-and-forth?  Trolls trolling trolls who are trolling?

I mean, if you're seeing something else in your mind's eye, that's all you, man, I'm just wondering why most conservatives seem to fixate on gay activity.

This thread is not political back and forth (with a few exceptions). It is mostly mindless love of Biden because he has a silly Onion meme and often has humorous photo-ops.

You think I am conservative? Oh, wait, this is Fark Politics. Anyone who ever doesn't like a Democrat for whatever reason is a conservative. I forgot.

Did you give a reason? I didn't see one. Please elaborate.


Remember SOPA/PIPA? Well, he introduced a law that was similiar back a few years before his VP run (PERFORM act). He is as corrupt as any of them, only he has the MPAA/RIAA in his pocket instead of the banks.

theknuckler_33: cameroncrazy1984: machoprogrammer: It is mostly mindless love of Biden because he has a silly Onion meme and often has humorous photo-ops.

Mindless? You must have missed the several links to extemporaneous speeches of his that were quite good, and powerful.

It's shocking that he didn't make another appearance in this thread.

And by 'shocking', I mean 'totally predictable'.


Excuse me for having to run errands on a Saturday instead of sitting on Fark.

Infernalist: I've never seen a rational person snark on Biden, only conservatives. And it's a well-established conserva-trope that Biden is a 'buffoon.'

So are you an actual idiot, or are you just pretending?


You sound smug.
 
2014-01-11 08:01:39 PM

machoprogrammer: Remember SOPA/PIPA? Well, he introduced a law that was similiar back a few years before his VP run (PERFORM act). He is as corrupt as any of them, only he has the MPAA/RIAA in his pocket instead of the banks.


So Robert Gates wrote in support of intellectual property freedom as part of his case against Biden?

It just breaks you up inside to hear anyone say anything good about Biden, doesn't it?
 
2014-01-11 08:05:26 PM

Mithiwithi: machoprogrammer: Remember SOPA/PIPA? Well, he introduced a law that was similiar back a few years before his VP run (PERFORM act). He is as corrupt as any of them, only he has the MPAA/RIAA in his pocket instead of the banks.

So Robert Gates wrote in support of intellectual property freedom as part of his case against Biden?

It just breaks you up inside to hear anyone say anything good about Biden, doesn't it?


I really don't give a rats ass what Robert Gates wrote about. I am not a Republican. I normally vote Democrat, in fact. It doesn't mean I can't criticize people with a D after their name.

Oh, and another thing I dislike about Biden is that he was all anti-NSA spying in 2006, even saying "I don't trust a spying president". Now? He is suddenly really quiet about it.
 
2014-01-11 08:40:49 PM

machoprogrammer: I really don't give a rats ass what Robert Gates wrote about. I am not a Republican. I normally vote Democrat, in fact. It doesn't mean I can't criticize people with a D after their name.


/Steve Irwin

Well look it there, a true Fark IndenpendentTM. They used to be very common but have become quite rare lately. They can be very dangerous when cornered, as they flail about. Lets see what happens when I poke it with this stick.

/Steve Irwin
 
2014-01-11 09:38:02 PM

Zafler: machoprogrammer: I really don't give a rats ass what Robert Gates wrote about. I am not a Republican. I normally vote Democrat, in fact. It doesn't mean I can't criticize people with a D after their name.

/Steve Irwin

Well look it there, a true Fark IndenpendentTM. They used to be very common but have become quite rare lately. They can be very dangerous when cornered, as they flail about. Lets see what happens when I poke it with this stick.

/Steve Irwin


A brainwashed Fark Dem? That is pretty common around these here parts.

And how am I a republican if I vote democrat most the time? It seems every criticism of a Democrat here is met with "LOLOL FARK INDEPENDENT!" or "BSABSVR!" by some idiot; you know, it IS possible to have an opinion different from yours, right?

I bet you think the Democrats are liberal, too... Bless your heart
 
2014-01-11 09:42:01 PM
Danger Danger Danger!
 
2014-01-11 11:12:26 PM

Mithiwithi: machoprogrammer: Remember SOPA/PIPA? Well, he introduced a law that was similiar back a few years before his VP run (PERFORM act). He is as corrupt as any of them, only he has the MPAA/RIAA in his pocket instead of the banks.

So Robert Gates wrote in support of intellectual property freedom as part of his case against Biden?

It just breaks you up inside to hear anyone say anything good about Biden, doesn't it?


My farkie for MP is simply "hates Biden".

He can always be counted on to spew vitriol and bile into any Biden thread on Fark.

You can practically set your watch by the guy.
 
2014-01-11 11:29:51 PM
Is there a Republican anymore who is not a whiny little biatch?
 
2014-01-12 12:54:22 AM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Is there a Republican anymore who is not a whiny little biatch?


Rush Limbaugh.
He is a whiny gargantuan biatch.
 
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