jj325: For those of us old enough to remember, there was a time when vinyl could sound better than CD's. I jumped on the CD player bandwagon early on, and was massively disappointed when I started buying replacement copies of some of my favorite vinyl on the new format. Even with a good player and stereo a lot of the original transfers coming out back then sounded horrible. I remember distinctly my Led Zeppelin II cd sounding like I was listening with earmuffs on. There's been a lot of advancements since then.
neongoats: Well, hate to point this out, but most digital formats decimate the dynamic range of the music. I suppose if your prime listening is using earbuds in your cube at work, knock yourself out with your mp3s bro.CD's sound awesome, and vinyl sounds great, and you can really tell on a halfway decent stereo how much better they both sound than your typical mp3 or aac of the same music./feels like the guy getting blown back in his chair listening to kyuss on vinyl
Laobaojun: dennysgod: Laobaojun: Any Farker electrical engineer: how hard would it be to come up with a filter that degrades CD quality down to vinyl quality? Seriously, I am tired of old folks and effete ironists insisting that vinyl is better, when it should be easy to provide a "crappy vinyl sound" button next to the bass and treble.You're missing the point. For those who love vinyl, it's that "crappy vinyl sound" that they like. That soft rhythmic whirl of the turntable with the occasional hiss and pop has a soothing quality, it makes the music feel alive. Listening to an album all the way through, one song at a time, is an adventure in sound, something that getting lost in today digital age where you don't even need buy an whole album anymore.Similar with Autotune. Now any shmuck can make a perfectly produced album with the most optimum sound quality thanks to Autotune but it hard for it to have the soul as albums that are cut on tape. I guarantee if you went back in time and had Fleetwood Mac make Rumors with Autotune on a technical level the sound quality would be perfect but it would not sound as good as the original cutThat's exactly my point! It shouldn't be hard to have a filter that puts all that fuzzy stuff onto the clean recordings. Everyone happy, except purists who will never be happy.
bunner: Like all things analogue, the signal chain dictates the quality.
bunner: But I'll lay you 1,000.00 you never heard pristine vinyl of a well mixed record played back on a really brilliant system.
superspeck: /sure would love to hijack this thread into a live album debate
frepnog: You say vinyl simply IS better? You are ignorant and need to learn some things about media and how the music on it is produced without letting your opinion cloud fact.Vinyl is having a small resurgence because people are stupid and the recording industry saw a way to make a buck.
frepnog: mongbiohazard: There's charm in it for some people, which I can understand, but to claim that they perform better than newer cars is just categorically untrue. Enjoy the charm if you want, but you'd sound ridiculous claiming that the old car is better practically than new ones.I agree with you. I tell people this all the time - you can make a cd sound EXACTLY like a vinyl record. You can NOT however make a vinyl record sound like a cd.that warmth people talk about is surface noise and it SUCKS.
frepnog: Record a vinyl record to uncompressed wav. Convert that wav to redbook audio. Burn
GibbyTheMole: mongbiohazard:"Warmth" and "Soul" are vague terms that people use so that they don't have to use more precise language which makes what they're trying to argue for sound dumb. "Noise" is the term they're trying so hard to avoid. Vinyl has more noise. Due to the placebo effect they have convinced themselves that vinyl sounds better, and so think so despite this extra noise and lower sound resolution.I can't speak for all vinyl listeners, but I despise noise. Most of my records are pretty quiet, and some are even dead-quiet. I have several commercially made CDs of some classic jazz albums, as well as the vinyl. A lot of the time, the vinyl IS better. My old late 50s Columbia 6-eye LP of Brubeck's "Time Out" LP trumps the CD, because you can hear the room ambience that's missing somewhat from the CD. It's not always the case, but sometimes, it is.
frepnog: I tell people this all the time - you can make a cd sound EXACTLY like a vinyl record
bunner: Mmmmm, no, that's not it but I think you got the first paragraph of a sketchy pysch 101 paper. : )
neongoats: I suppose if your prime listening is using earbuds in your cube at work, knock yourself out with your mp3s bro.
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