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(The Week)   Hipsters and music snobs still trying to convince people that Vinyl LPs are making a comeback, perhaps even in pog form   (theweek.com) divider line 182
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2014-01-11 03:42:44 PM  

frepnog: Rent Party: I like vinyl because it forces you to sit and listen.

oh now THIS is some hipster bullshiat.

I grew up with records.  I knew where to put the needle in the groove to play the song I wanted and swapped records quite often, usually after one or two songs.  call it an analog playlist, if you will.  rarely did I just put on a record and let it play, unless it was a new release.  and it was much quicker to change tracks usually than even pushing "next" on a cd player.




Man, I never did that. If I had a record that only had one or two tracks that I liked, I'd put those on a tape, with other tracks from similar records. But as a rule, I just put the record on the turntable, cleaned it with my Discwasher, and let it play. Luckily, by the time I actually managed to get a woman back to my place, I mostly listened to tapes and CDs; one side of a record isn't very long when you want to have some makeout music on in the background.
 
2014-01-11 03:47:32 PM  

bunner: Thank you for reinforcing my assumption that you are the sort of person who lives their lives my internet wheel charts and wikipedia entries.  Now go yank on somebody else's shirt tail, kid, will ya?   :  )


Sorry to make you feel so defensive, but you should really blame your parents for you being so dumb, not me.
 
2014-01-11 04:53:43 PM  

Rent Party: But pretending it is acoustically superior to digital is just delusional.


*Clicks Digital Is Teh Godz0r!1" counter*  Gotcha.
 
2014-01-11 04:55:38 PM  

mongbiohazard: Sorry to make you feel so defensive


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                               "Get him, kids."
 
2014-01-11 04:58:35 PM  

Oldiron_79: All my vinyl is from before he major labels stopped making vinyl like early to mid 90s that I bought back before I had a cd player.

Get off my lawn.


So...you're saying you were into vinyl before it was cool?
 
2014-01-11 05:20:35 PM  
mongbiohazard:

That's most likely because the CD's are actually reproducing the noisy old format they were mastered from more accurately than the vinyl is. It could also be because the masters have deteriorated in the time prior to being mastered to digital.

That's probably true. Even more likely is that the CD is made from a bin master rather than the original 1st tapes.

But it is plain and simple fact that CD's are capable of higher quality sound reproduction than vinyl. There's no debate, it's objective fact due to the capabilities of each medium.

Also... true. IF you're taking about the end medium itself. But a crappily mastered CD does not sound better than a well mastered LP of the same thing. Garbage in, garbage out.
 
2014-01-11 05:35:52 PM  
I dig vinyl. It's fun to collect, it's a good way to support indie bands and it's cool.
 
2014-01-11 05:40:30 PM  
 
2014-01-11 06:34:44 PM  

Rent Party: Laobaojun: Any Farker electrical engineer: how hard would it be to come up with a filter that degrades CD quality down to vinyl quality?  Seriously,  I am tired of old folks and effete ironists insisting that vinyl is better, when it should be easy to provide a "crappy vinyl sound" button next to the bass and treble.

They have software VSTs that will do that for you now.


Portishead has an ASTOUNDINGLY annoying habit of ADDING vinyl noise to their recordings. I guess they think it makes them cool, but it just totally ruins recordings they had put a lot of work into.

"Hey, check it out! We're simulating the sound of shiatty vinyl!"
 
2014-01-11 06:43:05 PM  
Along with shark, boob, and gun threads, these are my favorite on Fark. Besides learning stuff, I like to watch you digital/vinyl people biatchslap each other.
 
2014-01-11 06:47:45 PM  

Disgruntled Goat: Portishead has an ASTOUNDINGLY annoying habit of ADDING vinyl noise to their recordings. I guess they think it makes them cool, but it just totally ruins recordings they had put a lot of work into.

"Hey, check it out! We're simulating the sound of shiatty vinyl!"


IIRC correctly, Portishead pressed up acetates and used those during the mixing.
 
2014-01-11 06:48:35 PM  

neongoats: Well, hate to point this out, but most digital formats decimate the dynamic range of the music. I suppose if your prime listening is using earbuds in your cube at work, knock yourself out with your mp3s bro.

CD's sound awesome, and vinyl sounds great, and you can really tell on a halfway decent stereo how much better they both sound than your typical mp3 or aac of the same music.

/feels like the guy getting blown back in his chair listening to kyuss on vinyl


CDs are a digital format. An MP3 at a sufficiently high bitrate played through decent hardware should be indistinguishable.
 
2014-01-11 07:02:57 PM  

Laobaojun: Any Farker electrical engineer: how hard would it be to come up with a filter that degrades CD quality down to vinyl quality?  Seriously,  I am tired of old folks and effete ironists insisting that vinyl is better, when it should be easy to provide a "crappy vinyl sound" button next to the bass and treble.


There's an app out there that does just this. It plays your high-quality MP3 files with a vinyl filter that adds hiss, pops, and clicks.
 
2014-01-11 07:09:46 PM  

stoli n coke: sarajlewis83: My husband would love it if I would get rid of my music collection in "physical form". Can't/won't do it. There is something about owning the physical product that appeals to me. Also why I continue to buy real books rather than a Kindle, I guess.

I don't get the reasoning behind KIndles. I can't see having to make sure an electrical device is fully charged every time I want to read for a few hours, when I could just grab a book, find a light source, sit down, and read.


They hold a charge for months. That's the point of e-ink.
 
2014-01-11 07:13:29 PM  

Laobaojun: Any Farker electrical engineer: how hard would it be to come up with a filter that degrades CD quality down to vinyl quality?  Seriously,  I am tired of old folks and effete ironists insisting that vinyl is better, when it should be easy to provide a "crappy vinyl sound" button next to the bass and treble.


Yep. Compressed dynamic range, bass mixed I mono, harmonic distortion, etc.

If you like the feel of the large cover art, charm of flipping the disc, fine. But don't try and claim the sound is superior to CD (or SACD).
 
2014-01-11 07:15:28 PM  

LewDux: bunner [i228.photobucket.com image 135x111] mongbiohazard


Oh, grow up.  :  )
 
2014-01-11 07:16:45 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Laobaojun: Any Farker electrical engineer: how hard would it be to come up with a filter that degrades CD quality down to vinyl quality?  Seriously,  I am tired of old folks and effete ironists insisting that vinyl is better, when it should be easy to provide a "crappy vinyl sound" button next to the bass and treble.

There's an app out there that does just this. It plays your high-quality MP3 files with a vinyl filter that adds hiss, pops, and clicks.


Progress!!1!1
 
2014-01-11 07:18:27 PM  

Znuh: This:

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Yerp.
 
2014-01-11 07:26:33 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: Gunny Highway: FeedTheCollapse: stoli n coke: I don't get the reasoning behind KIndles. I can't see having to make sure an electrical device is fully charged every time I want to read for a few hours, when I could just grab a book, find a light source, sit down, and read

because a Kindle can easily hold thousands of books. If I finish one book, I can move onto the next, which is especially helpful if I'm not reading at home. Also I only have to charge my Kindle about once a week if I keep my Wi-Fi on, otherwise it can go weeks without recharging.

This was a giant debate in library school.  My answer was always, "why not both."  The Kindle is easier to read on the train, you can instandly purchase books, and some have a back light.  Physical books have all of their classic advantages.

Why does it have to be one or the other.

well, I wasn't really arguing that it has to be one or the other, just explaining the appeal of Kindle.

For what it's worth, I think that there does seem to be a heavy amount of ignorance on the Anti-Kindle side and with their argument for books not extending much deeper than "I like the smells." That said, I don't think the physical medium for books is ever really going to go away, but that has more to do with a desire for a physical product that can't be easily deleted than huffing books like they're scented markers or some shiat.


The anti-kindle arguments tend to be flat out ignorance or unrealistic worries, such as:

What happens if Amazon goes out of business -- because it's possible that one of the largest companies in the world may cease operation in a few years.

What happens if I breaking my e-reader, computer dies, etc. -- because Amazon doesn't let you redownload books and backing up your data is impossible.

You can't take notes in e-books, underline, etc.

I prefer schlepping 4 hard covers with me on vacation.

Why would I ever want the convince of having my whole library on my phone? I rather walk around with a book jammed into my pocket (I know someone who actually made that argument).
 
2014-01-11 07:39:34 PM  
Got these this past Wednesday at Vertigo Records in Ottawa.

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//can't remember does Fark love or loathe the Lips?
 
2014-01-11 11:04:40 PM  
i own a lot of vinyl, the music u listen to is just too shiatty to be released on vinyl so you don't
 
2014-01-11 11:09:27 PM  
OK, enough of the hipster hate. I know posting it on the 4th page of an old thread ain't going to do much, but I have to say it anyway. Leave the hipsters alone. Stop liking what I don't like, I know.

It's just lame. I can't imagine the level of a mind that sits around all day waiting for the chance to rag on people who could care less what you think about them. Go get a hobby. Jerk off or something.
 
2014-01-11 11:36:59 PM  

Girl Sailor: OK, enough of the hipster hate. I know posting it on the 4th page of an old thread ain't going to do much, but I have to say it anyway. Leave the hipsters alone. Stop liking what I don't like, I know.

It's just lame. I can't imagine the level of a mind that sits around all day waiting for the chance to rag on people who could care less what you think about them. Go get a hobby. Jerk off or something.


It's not so much hipster hate, it's more about how some people look down on other who don't share their likes. Like I said earlier in this thread, I don't give a shiat if you like vinyl records or craft beer that costs $7 a bottle, just stop trying to act as if it's somehow superior to what anyone else likes.
 
2014-01-12 01:16:43 AM  

mongbiohazard: bunner: frepnog: People who carry the opinion that vinyl is superior to cd however are unfortunately wrong in their opinion, and it can be scientifically proven that they are, in fact, wrong.

Some people can sleep in a silent room.  Others require white noise.

Its a similar phenomenon.

I have no idea why you're so virulently invested into this meaningless argument about apples and oranges, actually.  But I've been performing, recording and mixing live shows and studio recordings for three decades and you are seriously full of moose crap.  No offense.  Me?  I got no pony in this heat.  The artist can request that the two track be released on wax cylinder, if the check clears.  But I'll lay you  1,000.00 you never heard pristine vinyl of a well mixed record played back on a really brilliant system.  And, frankly, so what?  Seriously, man are the atheist threads closed?  You gotta troll this with your great pronouncements?  I guess it's a cheaper hobby than bar blowhard.  Carry on, Aristophanes.   :  )

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Is it just my lazy eye, or is that image very blurry and mostly unreadable?
 
2014-01-12 03:01:12 AM  

LectertheChef: Is it just my lazy eye, or is that image very blurry and mostly unreadable?


No, it's small and illegible.  But, see, when you're trolling somebody - and poorly - you have to count on a few assumptions.  One, that your pissant authority pose is being bought, hook like and sinker.  Two, your mark is *this close* to losing their rag for your lip biting, dink touching enjoyment.  I'm sure he thought I was squinting at that, downloading it and loading it into a graphics editor, trying in vain to resize it and find out what was "wrong" with me according to his paper towel psych PhD.  No, seriously.  This is how people who come here to fart loudly and see who complains about the smell actually think.  It's a little pathetic, but I'm not a certified counselor, so I just tell them to f*ck off.   :  )
 
2014-01-12 03:19:37 AM  
So what does everyone think about circumcision?
 
2014-01-12 03:27:42 AM  
It works well on cheese rinds.
 
2014-01-12 08:10:31 AM  

jj325: For those of us old enough to remember, there was a time when vinyl could sound better than CD's.  I jumped on the CD player bandwagon early on, and was massively disappointed when I started buying replacement copies of some of my favorite vinyl on the new format.  Even with a good player and stereo a lot of the original transfers coming out back then sounded horrible.  I remember distinctly my Led Zeppelin II cd sounding like I was listening with earmuffs on.  There's been a lot of advancements since then.


Yup - early on record companies madly scrambled to get stuff to CD and used 3rd generation masters, often vinyl masters with the RIAA curve in them that had to be re-eq'd. Awful stuff. And, the A/D and D/A technology was very primitive in the 80s.

Today you can buy a DAC that can do 24/192 (ridiculous overkill) for a couple hundred bucks, and they sound fan-farking-tabulous.

99% of the sound of any recording is the recording (mics & mic placement, studio, etc), mixing and mastering. Why people spend so much time arguing about the 1% that is the format baffles me, especially when I see pictures of so-called audiphile listening rooms with their floorstanding speakers crammed into the corners of a 10x10x8 listening room.
 
2014-01-12 08:11:31 AM  
Oh, and you haven't heard LZII until you've heard the original Robert Ludwig mastering on clean vinyl. Prepare to empty your wallet to acquire one.
 
2014-01-12 11:09:19 AM  
Cassettes had replaced vinyl when I was a kid (I'm 34 now), so I never really did the vinyl thing. I loved CDs as a replacement for tapes. Cleaner sound and at the time we were told that if you take care of them, they'll last forever.

Once I got an mp3 player, I went off into mp3 land. However, I've recently started going back to CDs. The convenience of the mp3 is nice, but I really can tell the difference in quality when I have good headphones on.  Now I've taken to converting CDs to FLAC and going that route.
 
2014-01-12 12:17:58 PM  

Orgasmatron138: Cassettes had replaced vinyl when I was a kid (I'm 34 now), so I never really did the vinyl thing. I loved CDs as a replacement for tapes. Cleaner sound and at the time we were told that if you take care of them, they'll last forever.

Once I got an mp3 player, I went off into mp3 land. However, I've recently started going back to CDs. The convenience of the mp3 is nice, but I really can tell the difference in quality when I have good headphones on.  Now I've taken to converting CDs to FLAC and going that route.




I just rip CDs to wav. files so I don't have to bother putting the CD into my computer. Hard drive space is cheap these days. But I'm a stick in the mud about buying CDs instead of buying MP3s.
 
2014-01-12 01:04:28 PM  

Repo Man: Orgasmatron138: Cassettes had replaced vinyl when I was a kid (I'm 34 now), so I never really did the vinyl thing. I loved CDs as a replacement for tapes. Cleaner sound and at the time we were told that if you take care of them, they'll last forever.

Once I got an mp3 player, I went off into mp3 land. However, I've recently started going back to CDs. The convenience of the mp3 is nice, but I really can tell the difference in quality when I have good headphones on.  Now I've taken to converting CDs to FLAC and going that route.

I just rip CDs to wav. files so I don't have to bother putting the CD into my computer. Hard drive space is cheap these days. But I'm a stick in the mud about buying CDs instead of buying MP3s.


mp3s are like the fast food of music. Great for utility, but if I'm home for the evening I want quality.
 
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