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(CNN)   Good news, everyone: Forcing Google+ on YouTube went so well, Google is now about to force it on Gmail users as well   (cnn.com) divider line 85
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2014-01-10 11:54:27 PM  
img.fark.net
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2014-01-11 12:02:00 AM  
Just wait until they integrate it into Android.
 
2014-01-11 12:08:56 AM  
But, they promised to do no evil?
 
2014-01-11 12:21:57 AM  
From TFA comments (as a reply to another comment)::"We need to go back to pre-Google+ days. Down with facebook too. All of this social media nonsense..."

Apparently the commenter is unaware that the comments section is a form of social media.
 
2014-01-11 12:47:39 AM  

jbc: Just wait until they integrate it into Android.


Uhm... about that....

Android app reviews move to Google+ ID system (27 November 2012)
 
2014-01-11 12:48:44 AM  
If you turned on Google+ on your account, you deserve anything that comes to you.
 
2014-01-11 12:54:28 AM  
I had my Gmail address when it was invite-only. It's simply M­y­Name[nospam-﹫-backwards]lia­m­g­*com.

I got my Google Voice number before it was Google Voice (It was Grand Central and Google bought the company).

I have an Android phone.

I love the Google.

But Google+ is the devil
 
2014-01-11 12:56:48 AM  
.... i like google+

imgs.xkcd.com
 
2014-01-11 01:02:51 AM  
Google really needs to realize that Facebook won this one, and move on.
 
2014-01-11 01:09:27 AM  
Because YouTube comments are sacred.
 
2014-01-11 01:09:41 AM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: If you turned on Google+ on your account, you deserve anything that comes to you.


I keep trying to avoid it but google keeps trying to trick me into it with other services. Waiting for me to be in a hurry and then sneak up on me and say "Don't not click here to avoid joining google+. If not, then do." And then boom, it has me.
 
2014-01-11 01:10:58 AM  
Much ado about nothing here.  People can email you through your G+ account without knowing you.  People can already email you without knowing you, so this is basically not even a change.
 
2014-01-11 01:11:36 AM  

NewportBarGuy: But, they promised to do no evil?


The definition of evil has apparently changed since I last reAd it. This is just stupid. Not evil. Evil would be forcing you to friend the Biebs and listen to his whiny voice all day.
 
2014-01-11 01:16:00 AM  
It helps you find and mail people you don't even know the address for but may know via account activity and geographic location.

One night stands just got a lot more interesting.

i25.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-11 01:22:53 AM  
img.fark.net

You can turn it off, fortunately. Settings/General tab.
 
2014-01-11 01:23:50 AM  
Honestly, it's purely coincidental that I decided before Christmas to give my family the gift of getting off social media and spending more time with them. Really.
 
2014-01-11 01:26:19 AM  

Telos: Much ado about nothing here.  People can email you through your G+ account without knowing you.  People can already email you without knowing you, so this is basically not even a change.


They have to know your email address, though.  With G+, they just find a profile they like, hit "Email this user", and you get the email; no foreknowledge of the email address necessary.

Probably won't be much of an issue for guys, but girls? Can you imagine the number of horny idiots that are going to send PIE to every cute girl they find a profile for?
 
2014-01-11 01:32:31 AM  
I've never used Google+.  It looks like I made the right choice.
 
2014-01-11 01:34:55 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-11 01:37:56 AM  

GrailOfThunder: You can turn it off, fortunately. Settings/General tab.


Excellent advice I can just tell my 80-year old mom to look in her Gmail Settings/General tab.

Here is a current screen shot: I am not kidding. I just took this screen shot.

img.fark.net
 
2014-01-11 02:04:52 AM  
From what I can tell, it only allows you to email people you see comments from on Google+. If you start typing a random name, it won't list every person with that name on G+. I guess an example would be if Fark had its own email service, one could send an email to any account they see on Fark by clicking their name.

TL;DR if you don't use Google+, you have nothing to worry about.
 
2014-01-11 02:10:22 AM  

Electrify: TL;DR if you don't use Google+, you have nothing to worry about.


Google is pushing everyone into Google+ and it's getting tough to use Gmail, Youtube, etc. without becoming a Google+ user.
 
2014-01-11 03:09:57 AM  
The option to delete the entire profile is at the very bottom of the settings page.  After the "auto awesome" option I just saw I said fark this shiat and deleted this garbage.
 
2014-01-11 03:21:10 AM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: If you turned on Google+ on your account, you deserve anything that comes to you.


But I didn't.  That also means I can't comment on YouTube, but I never commented on Youtube.

I still have to opt out of this because Google created a Google+ account for me without my permission.
 
2014-01-11 03:27:23 AM  
There's no reason for Google not to integrate the account management systems for all of the services they run.  I'd have been more surprised if they hadn't made it so that you use the same login for Gmail as you do for Google Drive and Google Play and whatever else you use.

Was it a bad decision to choose "Google+ account" as the canonical brand reference for this new integrated account, probably, because the general public sees Google+ as an unsuccessful copy of Facebook.
 
2014-01-11 03:50:03 AM  
I deleted all of my Google account but my Gmail a while back.  The only reason I still have gmail is because I have my email forwarded to gmail because I have an Android phone and this makes it easier to read my mail.  I don't get that much mail though and will ditch gmail if they try to use it to force G+ on me.
 
2014-01-11 04:03:21 AM  

Ditto: I deleted all of my Google account but my Gmail a while back.  The only reason I still have gmail is because I have my email forwarded to gmail because I have an Android phone and this makes it easier to read my mail.  I don't get that much mail though and will ditch gmail if they try to use it to force G+ on me.


I thought you HAVE to have google+ if you have gmail
 
2014-01-11 04:04:26 AM  
They may have created a G+ account for me when I commented on a video after they instituted this, but I've never bothered to look at it. It's not like they're pulling any "update/check/look at your G+ profile in order to continue" on anyone, so I don't get the fuss.
 
2014-01-11 04:07:36 AM  
Can't you just use the account for a portal to the rsst and ignore all the facebooky stuff you don't like?

I guess I don't understand the outrage.
 
2014-01-11 04:22:56 AM  

Smackledorfer: I guess I don't understand the outrage.


They're removing the anonymity of private email accounts. If I wanted random ass people to find my email address, I'd post it publicly for them to email me. Now, apparently, anyone with a gmail account can find me and send me at least one unsolicited email.
 
2014-01-11 04:43:22 AM  
yeah i dumped my gmail account (from the earliest beta, back when you had to be lucky to get a key) in october because of all their bullshiat

google sucks now
 
2014-01-11 05:10:33 AM  
Google+ isn't that bad. It has many advantages over Facebook and Twitter, while being simple and easy to use. Once you have created a few Circles, you'll never want to leave Google+!

*spark* *glitch*

... many ad-vaaaantages...

*sputter*

... neverleaveneverleaveneverleaveneverleave...
 
2014-01-11 05:20:50 AM  

MmmmBacon: Google+ isn't that bad. It has many advantages over Facebook and Twitter, while being simple and easy to use. Once you have created a few Circles, you'll never want to leave Google+!

*spark* *glitch*

... many ad-vaaaantages...

*sputter*

... neverleaveneverleaveneverleaveneverleave...


Fark social media.
 
2014-01-11 06:14:04 AM  
Google's gotten too damn pushy.  I've been using gmail since 2004, but I really don't care for how they've changed YouTube, and I started moving my email before Christmas.  Glad I did.  Hotmail/live.com seems to have a decent email setup - at least until they start overreaching as well, and then I have to change again.

I want email.  I don't want your gimmicks, your attempts to foist connectivity.  Why? 'Cause fark you, that's why.
 
2014-01-11 06:17:25 AM  

log_jammin: I thought you HAVE to have google+ if you have gmail


Nope. Activated G+ when it first came out, didn't like it, turned it off.  Still have Gmail.
 
2014-01-11 06:32:16 AM  

The Crepes of Wrath: log_jammin: I thought you HAVE to have google+ if you have gmail

Nope. Activated G+ when it first came out, didn't like it, turned it off.  Still have Gmail.


thanks.

I just deleted it.
 
2014-01-11 06:42:14 AM  
I farking hate it.

I watch an awful lot of weird and odd videos on youtube (as I'm sure we all do), and sometimes I comment on them. And then a few months ago Google decided to link it up to a Google+ account which I don't want and won't use, but whatever. My real name isn't attached to either anyway.

But somehow, over the past two months, my idle, vacant, empty Google+ account got added to the "circles" (whatever the fark that is) of other Google+ users. Some of them are employers and clients of mine. I have no idea how they found my unused G+ account that I never visit and has nothing on it, but they have (it's creepy how intelligent the recommendations modules on social media sites are these days. LinkedIn does the same thing).

Worse yet, if I post a comment on a youtube video, the comment gets automatically referenced and linked on my G+ account as part of my recent activity (if anyone knows a way to disable this option, please tell me. I spent days trying to figure it out). So now these people that I am linked to their "circles" (whatever the fark that is), can go to my G+ page and see what videos I watch and post. That's farking creepy.

I don't want my personal life and my professional life to intersect like that. There is a clear demarcation in my life between what I do professionally for clients and businesses, and whatever goofy shiat I do in my own free time.

So I've stopped posting Youtube comments entirely out of fear and I'm probably going to shut down everything google if this doesn't get any better. This all-in-one inclusive bullshiat is not how we want to conduct our lives online, and it floors me that Google is too stupid to understand that.
 
2014-01-11 06:46:44 AM  

The Crepes of Wrath: log_jammin: I thought you HAVE to have google+ if you have gmail

Nope. Activated G+ when it first came out, didn't like it, turned it off.  Still have Gmail.


Yeah, I created a G+ account using my junk gmail account, just to say I have one. The several other gmail accounts I have don't have a G+ profile.
 
2014-01-11 07:11:25 AM  

Ishkur: I farking hate it.

I watch an awful lot of weird and odd videos on youtube (as I'm sure we all do), and sometimes I comment on them. And then a few months ago Google decided to link it up to a Google+ account which I don't want and won't use, but whatever. My real name isn't attached to either anyway.

But somehow, over the past two months, my idle, vacant, empty Google+ account got added to the "circles" (whatever the fark that is) of other Google+ users. Some of them are employers and clients of mine. I have no idea how they found my unused G+ account that I never visit and has nothing on it, but they have (it's creepy how intelligent the recommendations modules on social media sites are these days. LinkedIn does the same thing).

Worse yet, if I post a comment on a youtube video, the comment gets automatically referenced and linked on my G+ account as part of my recent activity (if anyone knows a way to disable this option, please tell me. I spent days trying to figure it out). So now these people that I am linked to their "circles" (whatever the fark that is), can go to my G+ page and see what videos I watch and post. That's farking creepy.

I don't want my personal life and my professional life to intersect like that. There is a clear demarcation in my life between what I do professionally for clients and businesses, and whatever goofy shiat I do in my own free time.

So I've stopped posting Youtube comments entirely out of fear and I'm probably going to shut down everything google if this doesn't get any better. This all-in-one inclusive bullshiat is not how we want to conduct our lives online, and it floors me that Google is too stupid to understand that.


This.

Similar happened to me. For a client I had to use google hangout on the fly. It forced me to use google+ in the process and I couldn't easily give a client a fake gmail address. Now I'm concerned I have to check my google+ account every week to see what google has decided to "helpfully" post there for me.

I'm more concerned about the future when google decides that now X auto posts to google+ and I have to know enough to read about it online and go into settings to turn it off. Remember the rollout of google buzz?
 
2014-01-11 07:13:07 AM  
s3.amazonaws.com

Haters gonna hate.
 
2014-01-11 07:42:23 AM  
It's easy to turn off, however the default should have been off.  Opt in is the way to go.
 
2014-01-11 07:42:32 AM  
This will surely lead to some attractive girl from my past who is thinking about me, and starts to type in my name and there I am. She emails me, we reconnect, frolic, and have lots of hot sexy times together.
 
2014-01-11 07:55:21 AM  

Ishkur: I farking hate it.

I watch an awful lot of weird and odd videos on youtube (as I'm sure we all do), and sometimes I comment on them. And then a few months ago Google decided to link it up to a Google+ account which I don't want and won't use, but whatever. My real name isn't attached to either anyway.

But somehow, over the past two months, my idle, vacant, empty Google+ account got added to the "circles" (whatever the fark that is) of other Google+ users. Some of them are employers and clients of mine. I have no idea how they found my unused G+ account that I never visit and has nothing on it, but they have (it's creepy how intelligent the recommendations modules on social media sites are these days. LinkedIn does the same thing).

Worse yet, if I post a comment on a youtube video, the comment gets automatically referenced and linked on my G+ account as part of my recent activity (if anyone knows a way to disable this option, please tell me. I spent days trying to figure it out). So now these people that I am linked to their "circles" (whatever the fark that is), can go to my G+ page and see what videos I watch and post. That's farking creepy.

I don't want my personal life and my professional life to intersect like that. There is a clear demarcation in my life between what I do professionally for clients and businesses, and whatever goofy shiat I do in my own free time.

So I've stopped posting Youtube comments entirely out of fear and I'm probably going to shut down everything google if this doesn't get any better. This all-in-one inclusive bullshiat is not how we want to conduct our lives online, and it floors me that Google is too stupid to understand that.


1) Create a new Google+ account, with absolutely no personal information about yourself in it.
2) Log out of your normal Google+/Gmail/Youtube account
3) Create a new Youtube account and link it to your new Google+ account
4) Post whatever you like on Youtube comments, without the fear of being discovered by work associates.
 
2014-01-11 07:55:49 AM  
You guys know the easiest solution is to just enter a fake name for your Google+ account, right?

/John Doe reporting in.  Born 1/1/1969.
 
2014-01-11 08:15:41 AM  
I have avoided G+ every time they asked me to join. The most frustrating part (and on a scale of 1-to-10, it's about a 0.11) is that they want me to use G+ to comment/review Android apps. Oh, well. They probably saved some off my time for more useful stuff, like posting on Fark. Oh, Wait...

We have several g-mail accounts,and not one has an active Google+ profile/account. For new G-mail accounts, you can still delete Google+, but it's not an easy process. It's annoying, and people need to complain to Google. It can work, look at how well Google Buzz worked out for them.
 
2014-01-11 08:42:31 AM  
Considering you can have multiple Gmail accounts, I don't really think this is a big deal.  My spam gmail account is what I use for YouTube anyway.  If you don't have multiple e-mail accounts (personal, professional (non-work), and spam) then you're begging for trouble.
 
2014-01-11 08:48:54 AM  

Unobtanium: I have avoided G+ every time they asked me to join. The most frustrating part (and on a scale of 1-to-10, it's about a 0.11) is that they want me to use G+ to comment/review Android apps.


I was annoyed by the G+/android app review thing as well. But then I read other peoples' reviews and realise that my 2¢ worth isn't worth 2¢ anyway (just like most of the reviews)
 
2014-01-11 09:05:05 AM  
The only purpose Google+ serves is to establish another presence on the internet for people who feel it enhances their professional credibility.

"Yeah, I'm on there."

Idiots.
 
2014-01-11 09:07:14 AM  
Sigh, right now it is a lot of chicken little going around with this. Basically it will be like a different type of spam (aka Promotions) folder called social. People can send you messages through Google+ but unless you go into the folder and accept the person you will never hear a peep from them. I don't even get notified for incoming promotions. This is actually less intrusive than Facebook notifying you that someone gave you a friend request through email.
 
2014-01-11 09:24:18 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: The only purpose Google+ serves is to establish another presence on the internet for people who feel it enhances their professional credibility.

"Yeah, I'm on there."

Idiots.


Sort of like pro version of Fark.
 
2014-01-11 09:33:16 AM  

MmmmBacon: 1) Create a new Google+ account, with absolutely no personal information about yourself in it.


I did that already. In fact, I have about five or six identically empty G+ accounts, though not intentionally. See, youtube gives you the option to disconnect your youtube account from your G+ account. Problem is, when you do that, you can't post, upload or share videos (and I like to make movies and interact with others so I need these features). So on the first day, when I noticed that it created a G+ account for me, I looked for ways to delete it. Could not, so I disconnected my youtube account from it. Then when I tried to comment on a video, it prompted me to log in to G+. I begrudgingly did so, thinking it just reconnected with G+, but no: What it did was create a NEW G+ account identical to the old one. After I posted, I promptly disconnected G+ again.

This went on about half a dozen times before I realized Google was not reconnecting me with the same G+ account but spawning new G+ accounts every time I disconnected and then reconnected to post. It was a total mess. But that's not the issue.

The issue is that, WITH NO HELP FROM ME WHATSOEVER, other people that are important in my life have invariably found my G+ account(s) regardless. And I want to be clear here that neither G+ nor Youtube have ever had my real my name or personal information in any way. It is utterly baffling how I was discovered at all. I never visit G+. But I'm on youtube and all of a sudden I get a notification indicating that four people have added me to their circles. How?! I haven't done anything to indicate that they would even know who I am. I've contacted one -- a guy I trust -- and asked him to remove me from his circles, to minimize the damage because once you're on one contact list, the degrees of separation will spider-web from there.

So it doesn't seem to matter, Google apparently has one hell of an tracking algorithm and it knows who you are even when you try to create a dummy/fake/spoof/anonymous account with no info. It recommends you to the people you interact with all the same.

This is seriously seriously creepy.

/social media is too social
//can't we just go back to usenet?
 
2014-01-11 09:47:43 AM  

Ishkur: So it doesn't seem to matter, Google apparently has one hell of an tracking algorithm and it knows who you are even when you try to create a dummy/fake/spoof/anonymous account with no info. It recommends you to the people you interact with all the same.

This is seriously seriously creepy.


The creepiest thing google does IMHO, is they are able to poll your wifi for surrounding connections, and they triangulate your real world position based on that.  So even if you disable GPS location and connect through a VPN, they can still find your real location.
 
2014-01-11 09:51:33 AM  

hardinparamedic: [s3.amazonaws.com image 303x1500]

Haters gonna hate.


Heh, except it hasn't happened like that.  I know a couple of people that bolted from Facebook for Google+, but even the people who use both only seem to post to one, or at least, I assume that, since I never touch my Google+ page anymore and so few people have left Facebook.

Maybe others have had a different experience, but I can't say I've seen any evidence to suggest as much.
 
2014-01-11 10:05:23 AM  

Ishkur: So it doesn't seem to matter, Google apparently has one hell of an tracking algorithm and it knows who you are even when you try to create ...


Google tracks you on all their sites and unless you're actively blocking their tracking methods, they know you all about you and where you've been. You'll learn to love the tentacle.
 
2014-01-11 10:16:55 AM  

Alonjar: Ishkur: So it doesn't seem to matter, Google apparently has one hell of an tracking algorithm and it knows who you are even when you try to create a dummy/fake/spoof/anonymous account with no info. It recommends you to the people you interact with all the same.

This is seriously seriously creepy.

The creepiest thing google does IMHO, is they are able to poll your wifi for surrounding connections, and they triangulate your real world position based on that.  So even if you disable GPS location and connect through a VPN, they can still find your real location.


On an android device?  Sure I can see that creepiness because they are marrying everything to everything so deeply and basically they have root on your hardware, on a 'not google derived' operating system though and using a not google derived browser?
 
2014-01-11 11:14:22 AM  
poot_rootbeer: There's no reason for Google not to integrate the account management systems for all of the services they run.

Yes there is: Google software is unmanageable, intrusive and often doesn't work.  Example: new Android phone with KitKat mismanages contacts in Hangouts, where it is virtually impossible to change a phone number.  The farking application autodials a phone number when you're trying to edit contact information.  It pulls in contacts that are unimportant from Google+ and GMail, then lists people at the top who don't even have a phone.  As with Google+, I just had to delete the virus called Hangouts.
 
2014-01-11 11:50:53 AM  

jaytkay: GrailOfThunder: You can turn it off, fortunately. Settings/General tab.

Excellent advice I can just tell my 80-year old mom to look in her Gmail Settings/General tab.

Here is a current screen shot: I am not kidding. I just took this screen shot.

[img.fark.net image 850x939]


Well, what I do with my 80 year old mom is use one of the free for private use screen control programs like teamviewer to take over her computer and show her how to do things or just fix them myself. Like when she changes the default email view every week and gets into a snit about how all her email has been "deleted". She knows how to start a session and I'll get a pleading 15 minute long message on my voice mail about how she has been working "all day" to fix some problem like her email view again and I can just zoom on there and fix it in 15 sec or whatever. Much better than trying to describe the screen to her, and when she sees it visually she sometimes remembers how to to do it herself.
 
2014-01-11 12:04:29 PM  
GrailOfThunder
Telos:
Much ado about nothing here. People can email you through your G+ account without knowing you. People can already email you without knowing you, so this is basically not even a change.

They have to know your email address, though. With G+, they just find a profile they like, hit "Email this user", and you get the email; no foreknowledge of the email address necessary.
Probably won't be much of an issue for guys, but girls? Can you imagine the number of horny idiots that are going to send PIE to every cute girl they find a profile for?


I don't really see much of a problem there.
I don't use G+, but I would imagine it already had some sort of messaging system integrated.
So instead of getting an email notification "you got a message from X. Click here to read it", they include the content of the message.
Plus it's under your control who gets to contact you this way.

Regarding PIE: who knows, maybe Google doesn't even allow attachments in those contact messages.
It would even make sense to remove URLs to make the function less interesting for spammers.
 
2014-01-11 12:07:43 PM  
I'm a Google whore. On Chrome, they had/have an screencap extenstion that was AWESOME! It was simple, easy, intuitive.

But they recently changed it so you cannot save the files. All you can do with them is upload to social media. Now to be fair, half of what I cap is for social media, but the other half is PII stuff that I need for my records that nobody else should see.

In the reviews of that extension not one person is saying, "Guys calm down - this rocks!" --- everyone is fuming
 
2014-01-11 12:12:22 PM  

Ed Grubermann: MmmmBacon: Google+ isn't that bad. It has many advantages over Facebook and Twitter, while being simple and easy to use. Once you have created a few Circles, you'll never want to leave Google+!

*spark* *glitch*

... many ad-vaaaantages...

*sputter*

... neverleaveneverleaveneverleaveneverleave...

Fark social media.


you know this is social media, right?
 
2014-01-11 12:25:06 PM  
except for my android phone i have fully jumped ship from google.  my phone does keep reminding me that it cannot connect to my now deleted gmail account but this is only until i switch to a new phone sometime this year.  i still use youtube but got rid of my account.  i only kept some playlists in there and occasionally commented on vids.  that loss was no big deal after they pretty much ruined youtube.  but the vids are still free.

/f u googs
 
2014-01-11 12:43:34 PM  

The Flexecutioner: except for my android phone i have fully jumped ship from google.  my phone does keep reminding me that it cannot connect to my now deleted gmail account but this is only until i switch to a new phone sometime this year.  i still use youtube but got rid of my account.  i only kept some playlists in there and occasionally commented on vids.  that loss was no big deal after they pretty much ruined youtube.  but the vids are still free.

/f u googs


What search engine do you use? And what mapping program?
 
2014-01-11 12:49:03 PM  

NeuroticRocker: The Flexecutioner: except for my android phone i have fully jumped ship from google.  my phone does keep reminding me that it cannot connect to my now deleted gmail account but this is only until i switch to a new phone sometime this year.  i still use youtube but got rid of my account.  i only kept some playlists in there and occasionally commented on vids.  that loss was no big deal after they pretty much ruined youtube.  but the vids are still free.

/f u googs

What search engine do you use? And what mapping program?


to clarify, when i say fully jumped ship, i have no accounts with them that require me to log in for any reason.  i also have NoScript which blocks googleusercontent.com and googlesyndication.com.  but yeah, i watch youtube and occasionally use Maps and the search engine.
 
2014-01-11 01:02:10 PM  
Get this--I just looked at something on my computer, and it said "new programs installed." So I checked, since I've installed nothing, and there was "Google+ auto backup" on my list of programs. I don't even have a Google account anymore! I completely nuked it.

This is the second time I've had to uninstall whatever this is. I don't know where it comes from either. Google search?
 
2014-01-11 01:05:34 PM  
If the early American settlers would have known how hard things will be in the future, I'm sure they would have just given up right then.
 
2014-01-11 01:09:39 PM  

cryinoutloud: Get this--I just looked at something on my computer, and it said "new programs installed." So I checked, since I've installed nothing, and there was "Google+ auto backup" on my list of programs. I don't even have a Google account anymore! I completely nuked it.

This is the second time I've had to uninstall whatever this is. I don't know where it comes from either. Google search?


stuff like this might be buried in another permission kind of thing.  i had free programs like AVG and Avast and occasionally they update in a large way and before I click "update" i look for things like "Make my default browser Explorer" or "Install and make my default browser Chrome" or some such nonsense.  Yeah, its why these things tend to be free but as long i keep that nonsense off my pc i'll have to be hyper aware of those like check boxes.
 
2014-01-11 01:28:39 PM  
I used Google+ for a while until I tried the G+ app on my phone.  when i installed it, i missed a setting, and by default it uploaded and shared all of the photos on my phone to my G+ account.  fortunately - i didn't have anything embarrassing on my phone, but i nuked the G+ account after that.

i love some of google's products and have used their search engine since they launched, but google+ is just creepy
 
2014-01-11 03:39:45 PM  

log_jammin: Ditto: I deleted all of my Google account but my Gmail a while back.  The only reason I still have gmail is because I have my email forwarded to gmail because I have an Android phone and this makes it easier to read my mail.  I don't get that much mail though and will ditch gmail if they try to use it to force G+ on me.

I thought you HAVE to have google+ if you have gmail


After you delete your G+ there is a skeleton G+ account that they call "your pages" and you have to go in and delete that too.  If you click anything on it other than Delete they turn it back into G+ account
 
2014-01-11 03:45:19 PM  
fark Google.
 
2014-01-11 03:47:51 PM  
Ishkur:

The issue is that, WITH NO HELP FROM ME WHATSOEVER, other people that are important in my life have invariably found my G+ account(s) regardless.

Google keeps track of everything you do on-line, regardless of whether you are log-into your account or not. Simply visiting any Google site or third party site that uses Google Analytics causes you to download a persistent cookie that is connected to your IP address. Google then tracks your entire activity wherever else you go on the internet. There is only a limited number to ways to defeat this behavior.

(1) Modify your browser setting so that every time you close the browser it deletes all cookies and remember to close the browser after every visit to a Google site.
(2) Use Tor so that Google doesn't know your IP. However, Tor does not play well with Youtube so that is a problem for you.

Note that if you use Google for lots of different things then even this doesn't help because when you are log-in to Google there is no way to delete the cookie.

If you really want to see how this works there is a Firefox add-on called "Collusion" or use this link

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/lightbeam/
 
2014-01-11 04:36:12 PM  
As soon as the next video uploading website is launched that works as well as youtube then I`m leaving google totally. All I want is to upload video and provide reliable links for others to view.

I don`t use gmail. I don`t use google+ I don`t do anything except use the web search and provide video links for people. The instant I can do that without google or loads of adverts I`m there.
 
2014-01-11 05:18:06 PM  
It is really time for Google to get humbled, embarrassed and lose all of the younger users. Honestly, Google needs to die.
 
2014-01-11 06:26:57 PM  
www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-01-11 06:42:50 PM  
Google is apparently too big now and it's cool to hate them. If you are in someone's circle and don't know why, they probably added you via email. Now they can email you without knowing your email, but they already did.

Google+ auto backup photos are not public, and you need to opt in to upload them.

Contacts on Android are difficult to edit, but you can hide any contact with no phone number.

I love how people love airmiles and other tracking companies, but hate Google tracking. Find something serious to be upset about ffs.
 
2014-01-11 07:22:56 PM  

Tax Boy: .... i like google+


Honestly, me too. But no one is there.
 
2014-01-11 07:24:39 PM  

Bob Down: Unobtanium: I have avoided G+ every time they asked me to join. The most frustrating part (and on a scale of 1-to-10, it's about a 0.11) is that they want me to use G+ to comment/review Android apps.

I was annoyed by the G+/android app review thing as well. But then I read other peoples' reviews and realise that my 2¢ worth isn't worth 2¢ anyway (just like most of the reviews)


See, I have a different response.  I used to love looking at the review before I dl or updated any apps, since sometimes they can cause more issues then they are worth.  I seriously have never seen the so called "spam" issue that G claims they are correcting with "real world identification"  If you read a group of reviews, you can generally sort the wheat from the chaff and proceed accordingly.
As a fellow member of the android community, I also used to review apps.  I have often had kind of weird phones, and always appreciated when others posted reviews based on their phones experience and so I have carried that on to pay it forward.
But.
Now, I would have to have an account I do not want, with theoretically my real name on it.  Yeahno.  I don't use my real name on FB when I am communicating with folks I know, I am certainly not putting it out on the Play store for folks I don't know.  I have an unusually name and am not interested in creating an easy to follow trail.
Anyway, clearly others have had similar issues with it, as it used to be normal to find tons of reviews for apps, and now it is down to a perishing few, and frankly I don't trust that few reviews.
So I use even less apps on my phone than I might otherwise.
and I have less trust and interest in Google and their products by the day.
Just my 0.02c.
 
2014-01-11 08:37:49 PM  
Gotta make it easier for the NSA to spy on ya, don'cha know?
 
2014-01-11 11:49:49 PM  
Just made this...

img.fark.net
 
2014-01-12 01:29:13 AM  

GrailOfThunder: Telos: Much ado about nothing here.  People can email you through your G+ account without knowing you.  People can already email you without knowing you, so this is basically not even a change.

They have to know your email address, though.


Not really.  What, you never get the emails sent to grailo­fth­u­nder1[nospam-﹫-backwards]h­a­lbh­alb­*c­o­m;gr­ai­l­ofthu­nder2[nospam-﹫-backwards]ha­l­bha­lb­*co­m;grailofthund er­3­[nospam-﹫-backwards]hal­bhal­b*c­o­m ?
 
2014-01-12 02:07:12 AM  

Ajanu: Google is apparently too big now and it's cool to hate them.


Yes, yes they are and yes it is (although who cares about cool).

I have been generally very pro-Google until the last year or so and their repeated efforts to trap/trick me into using Google+ have soured me a great deal. I love anonymity and hate social networks. If Google wants to have their own social network go ahead, but stop making me opt-out of this piece of crap.
 
2014-01-12 02:27:25 AM  

Ajanu: Google is apparently too big now and it's cool to hate them.


Just because you white knight them does not mean your odds of getting that job mopping the floors there is any better.  Its not a matter of getting 'too big', its a matter of abandoning their old motto of 'do no evil'.  Its not state surveillance that people should be concerned with, its corporate.  States don't answer to investors and aren't required to increase profits every quarter at any cost and they have slightly more accountability then some black box corporation who's whole business model is studying everything people do and selling that data to other corporations, like your insurance company.
 
2014-01-12 07:27:52 AM  
How hard would it be to set up my own email server?
 
2014-01-12 08:33:14 AM  

BumpInTheNight: Ajanu: Google is apparently too big now and it's cool to hate them.

Just because you white knight them does not mean your odds of getting that job mopping the floors there is any better.  Its not a matter of getting 'too big', its a matter of abandoning their old motto of 'do no evil'.  Its not state surveillance that people should be concerned with, its corporate.  States don't answer to investors and aren't required to increase profits every quarter at any cost and they have slightly more accountability then some black box corporation who's whole business model is studying everything people do and selling that data to other corporations, like your insurance company.


I thinkyou should be more worried about the State. Because it has the power to make your life miserable, and you can't quit it or take your business elsewhere.

/my solution to social media is my own server of sorts with it's own url
 
2014-01-12 09:11:06 AM  

Animatronik: I thinkyou should be more worried about the State. Because it has the power to make your life miserable, and you can't quit it or take your business elsewhere.

/my solution to social media is my own server of sorts with it's own url


Yah but there's nothing in it for the state to make me miserable, meanwhile when, when facebook starts to lose favour and the company starts scrambling to squeeze all the money they can out of the data they will begin selling everything off with increasing fervor to less and less scrupulous deals.  That is when you'll start seeing blatant things like being able to buy up all your employee's profiles or again insurance companies getting open access to your profile to help them deny a claim you made.  See there is a tangible benefit for corporate data harvesting beyond advertising to the person they're watching, its also their retirement fund and so long as websites like those ones that host people's mugshots and want payment to take them down exist...its going to get ugly when the first big player goes the way of myspace.
 
2014-01-12 09:40:29 AM  

Born To Beguile: How hard would it be to set up my own email server?


Easy. Getting other systems to allow your email through and not flag it as spam? Challenging.
 
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