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(CNN)   Good news, everyone: Forcing Google+ on YouTube went so well, Google is now about to force it on Gmail users as well   (cnn.com) divider line 86
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2014-01-10 11:54:27 PM
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jbc [TotalFark]
2014-01-11 12:02:00 AM
Just wait until they integrate it into Android.
 
2014-01-11 12:08:56 AM
But, they promised to do no evil?
 
2014-01-11 12:21:57 AM
From TFA comments (as a reply to another comment)::"We need to go back to pre-Google+ days. Down with facebook too. All of this social media nonsense..."

Apparently the commenter is unaware that the comments section is a form of social media.
 
2014-01-11 12:47:39 AM

jbc: Just wait until they integrate it into Android.


Uhm... about that....

Android app reviews move to Google+ ID system (27 November 2012)
 
2014-01-11 12:48:44 AM
If you turned on Google+ on your account, you deserve anything that comes to you.
 
2014-01-11 12:54:28 AM
I had my Gmail address when it was invite-only. It's simply M­y­N­ame­[nospam-﹫-backwards]liamg*com.

I got my Google Voice number before it was Google Voice (It was Grand Central and Google bought the company).

I have an Android phone.

I love the Google.

But Google+ is the devil
 
2014-01-11 12:56:48 AM
.... i like google+

imgs.xkcd.com
 
2014-01-11 01:02:51 AM
Google really needs to realize that Facebook won this one, and move on.
 
2014-01-11 01:09:27 AM
Because YouTube comments are sacred.
 
2014-01-11 01:09:41 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: If you turned on Google+ on your account, you deserve anything that comes to you.


I keep trying to avoid it but google keeps trying to trick me into it with other services. Waiting for me to be in a hurry and then sneak up on me and say "Don't not click here to avoid joining google+. If not, then do." And then boom, it has me.
 
2014-01-11 01:10:58 AM
Much ado about nothing here.  People can email you through your G+ account without knowing you.  People can already email you without knowing you, so this is basically not even a change.
 
2014-01-11 01:11:36 AM

NewportBarGuy: But, they promised to do no evil?


The definition of evil has apparently changed since I last reAd it. This is just stupid. Not evil. Evil would be forcing you to friend the Biebs and listen to his whiny voice all day.
 
2014-01-11 01:16:00 AM
It helps you find and mail people you don't even know the address for but may know via account activity and geographic location.

One night stands just got a lot more interesting.

i25.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-11 01:22:53 AM
img.fark.net

You can turn it off, fortunately. Settings/General tab.
 
2014-01-11 01:23:50 AM
Honestly, it's purely coincidental that I decided before Christmas to give my family the gift of getting off social media and spending more time with them. Really.
 
2014-01-11 01:26:19 AM

Telos: Much ado about nothing here.  People can email you through your G+ account without knowing you.  People can already email you without knowing you, so this is basically not even a change.


They have to know your email address, though.  With G+, they just find a profile they like, hit "Email this user", and you get the email; no foreknowledge of the email address necessary.

Probably won't be much of an issue for guys, but girls? Can you imagine the number of horny idiots that are going to send PIE to every cute girl they find a profile for?
 
2014-01-11 01:32:31 AM
I've never used Google+.  It looks like I made the right choice.
 
2014-01-11 01:34:55 AM
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2014-01-11 01:37:56 AM

GrailOfThunder: You can turn it off, fortunately. Settings/General tab.


Excellent advice I can just tell my 80-year old mom to look in her Gmail Settings/General tab.

Here is a current screen shot: I am not kidding. I just took this screen shot.

img.fark.net
 
2014-01-11 02:04:52 AM
From what I can tell, it only allows you to email people you see comments from on Google+. If you start typing a random name, it won't list every person with that name on G+. I guess an example would be if Fark had its own email service, one could send an email to any account they see on Fark by clicking their name.

TL;DR if you don't use Google+, you have nothing to worry about.
 
2014-01-11 02:10:22 AM

Electrify: TL;DR if you don't use Google+, you have nothing to worry about.


Google is pushing everyone into Google+ and it's getting tough to use Gmail, Youtube, etc. without becoming a Google+ user.
 
2014-01-11 03:09:57 AM
The option to delete the entire profile is at the very bottom of the settings page.  After the "auto awesome" option I just saw I said fark this shiat and deleted this garbage.
 
2014-01-11 03:21:10 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: If you turned on Google+ on your account, you deserve anything that comes to you.


But I didn't.  That also means I can't comment on YouTube, but I never commented on Youtube.

I still have to opt out of this because Google created a Google+ account for me without my permission.
 
2014-01-11 03:27:23 AM
There's no reason for Google not to integrate the account management systems for all of the services they run.  I'd have been more surprised if they hadn't made it so that you use the same login for Gmail as you do for Google Drive and Google Play and whatever else you use.

Was it a bad decision to choose "Google+ account" as the canonical brand reference for this new integrated account, probably, because the general public sees Google+ as an unsuccessful copy of Facebook.
 
2014-01-11 03:50:03 AM
I deleted all of my Google account but my Gmail a while back.  The only reason I still have gmail is because I have my email forwarded to gmail because I have an Android phone and this makes it easier to read my mail.  I don't get that much mail though and will ditch gmail if they try to use it to force G+ on me.
 
2014-01-11 04:03:21 AM

Ditto: I deleted all of my Google account but my Gmail a while back.  The only reason I still have gmail is because I have my email forwarded to gmail because I have an Android phone and this makes it easier to read my mail.  I don't get that much mail though and will ditch gmail if they try to use it to force G+ on me.


I thought you HAVE to have google+ if you have gmail
 
2014-01-11 04:04:26 AM
They may have created a G+ account for me when I commented on a video after they instituted this, but I've never bothered to look at it. It's not like they're pulling any "update/check/look at your G+ profile in order to continue" on anyone, so I don't get the fuss.
 
2014-01-11 04:07:36 AM
Can't you just use the account for a portal to the rsst and ignore all the facebooky stuff you don't like?

I guess I don't understand the outrage.
 
2014-01-11 04:22:56 AM

Smackledorfer: I guess I don't understand the outrage.


They're removing the anonymity of private email accounts. If I wanted random ass people to find my email address, I'd post it publicly for them to email me. Now, apparently, anyone with a gmail account can find me and send me at least one unsolicited email.
 
2014-01-11 04:43:22 AM
yeah i dumped my gmail account (from the earliest beta, back when you had to be lucky to get a key) in october because of all their bullshiat

google sucks now
 
2014-01-11 05:10:33 AM
Google+ isn't that bad. It has many advantages over Facebook and Twitter, while being simple and easy to use. Once you have created a few Circles, you'll never want to leave Google+!

*spark* *glitch*

... many ad-vaaaantages...

*sputter*

... neverleaveneverleaveneverleaveneverleave...
 
2014-01-11 05:20:50 AM

MmmmBacon: Google+ isn't that bad. It has many advantages over Facebook and Twitter, while being simple and easy to use. Once you have created a few Circles, you'll never want to leave Google+!

*spark* *glitch*

... many ad-vaaaantages...

*sputter*

... neverleaveneverleaveneverleaveneverleave...


Fark social media.
 
2014-01-11 06:14:04 AM
Google's gotten too damn pushy.  I've been using gmail since 2004, but I really don't care for how they've changed YouTube, and I started moving my email before Christmas.  Glad I did.  Hotmail/live.com seems to have a decent email setup - at least until they start overreaching as well, and then I have to change again.

I want email.  I don't want your gimmicks, your attempts to foist connectivity.  Why? 'Cause fark you, that's why.
 
2014-01-11 06:17:25 AM

log_jammin: I thought you HAVE to have google+ if you have gmail


Nope. Activated G+ when it first came out, didn't like it, turned it off.  Still have Gmail.
 
2014-01-11 06:32:16 AM

The Crepes of Wrath: log_jammin: I thought you HAVE to have google+ if you have gmail

Nope. Activated G+ when it first came out, didn't like it, turned it off.  Still have Gmail.


thanks.

I just deleted it.
 
2014-01-11 06:42:14 AM
I farking hate it.

I watch an awful lot of weird and odd videos on youtube (as I'm sure we all do), and sometimes I comment on them. And then a few months ago Google decided to link it up to a Google+ account which I don't want and won't use, but whatever. My real name isn't attached to either anyway.

But somehow, over the past two months, my idle, vacant, empty Google+ account got added to the "circles" (whatever the fark that is) of other Google+ users. Some of them are employers and clients of mine. I have no idea how they found my unused G+ account that I never visit and has nothing on it, but they have (it's creepy how intelligent the recommendations modules on social media sites are these days. LinkedIn does the same thing).

Worse yet, if I post a comment on a youtube video, the comment gets automatically referenced and linked on my G+ account as part of my recent activity (if anyone knows a way to disable this option, please tell me. I spent days trying to figure it out). So now these people that I am linked to their "circles" (whatever the fark that is), can go to my G+ page and see what videos I watch and post. That's farking creepy.

I don't want my personal life and my professional life to intersect like that. There is a clear demarcation in my life between what I do professionally for clients and businesses, and whatever goofy shiat I do in my own free time.

So I've stopped posting Youtube comments entirely out of fear and I'm probably going to shut down everything google if this doesn't get any better. This all-in-one inclusive bullshiat is not how we want to conduct our lives online, and it floors me that Google is too stupid to understand that.
 
2014-01-11 06:46:44 AM

The Crepes of Wrath: log_jammin: I thought you HAVE to have google+ if you have gmail

Nope. Activated G+ when it first came out, didn't like it, turned it off.  Still have Gmail.


Yeah, I created a G+ account using my junk gmail account, just to say I have one. The several other gmail accounts I have don't have a G+ profile.
 
2014-01-11 07:11:25 AM

Ishkur: I farking hate it.

I watch an awful lot of weird and odd videos on youtube (as I'm sure we all do), and sometimes I comment on them. And then a few months ago Google decided to link it up to a Google+ account which I don't want and won't use, but whatever. My real name isn't attached to either anyway.

But somehow, over the past two months, my idle, vacant, empty Google+ account got added to the "circles" (whatever the fark that is) of other Google+ users. Some of them are employers and clients of mine. I have no idea how they found my unused G+ account that I never visit and has nothing on it, but they have (it's creepy how intelligent the recommendations modules on social media sites are these days. LinkedIn does the same thing).

Worse yet, if I post a comment on a youtube video, the comment gets automatically referenced and linked on my G+ account as part of my recent activity (if anyone knows a way to disable this option, please tell me. I spent days trying to figure it out). So now these people that I am linked to their "circles" (whatever the fark that is), can go to my G+ page and see what videos I watch and post. That's farking creepy.

I don't want my personal life and my professional life to intersect like that. There is a clear demarcation in my life between what I do professionally for clients and businesses, and whatever goofy shiat I do in my own free time.

So I've stopped posting Youtube comments entirely out of fear and I'm probably going to shut down everything google if this doesn't get any better. This all-in-one inclusive bullshiat is not how we want to conduct our lives online, and it floors me that Google is too stupid to understand that.


This.

Similar happened to me. For a client I had to use google hangout on the fly. It forced me to use google+ in the process and I couldn't easily give a client a fake gmail address. Now I'm concerned I have to check my google+ account every week to see what google has decided to "helpfully" post there for me.

I'm more concerned about the future when google decides that now X auto posts to google+ and I have to know enough to read about it online and go into settings to turn it off. Remember the rollout of google buzz?
 
2014-01-11 07:13:07 AM
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Haters gonna hate.
 
2014-01-11 07:42:23 AM
It's easy to turn off, however the default should have been off.  Opt in is the way to go.
 
2014-01-11 07:42:32 AM
This will surely lead to some attractive girl from my past who is thinking about me, and starts to type in my name and there I am. She emails me, we reconnect, frolic, and have lots of hot sexy times together.
 
2014-01-11 07:55:21 AM

Ishkur: I farking hate it.

I watch an awful lot of weird and odd videos on youtube (as I'm sure we all do), and sometimes I comment on them. And then a few months ago Google decided to link it up to a Google+ account which I don't want and won't use, but whatever. My real name isn't attached to either anyway.

But somehow, over the past two months, my idle, vacant, empty Google+ account got added to the "circles" (whatever the fark that is) of other Google+ users. Some of them are employers and clients of mine. I have no idea how they found my unused G+ account that I never visit and has nothing on it, but they have (it's creepy how intelligent the recommendations modules on social media sites are these days. LinkedIn does the same thing).

Worse yet, if I post a comment on a youtube video, the comment gets automatically referenced and linked on my G+ account as part of my recent activity (if anyone knows a way to disable this option, please tell me. I spent days trying to figure it out). So now these people that I am linked to their "circles" (whatever the fark that is), can go to my G+ page and see what videos I watch and post. That's farking creepy.

I don't want my personal life and my professional life to intersect like that. There is a clear demarcation in my life between what I do professionally for clients and businesses, and whatever goofy shiat I do in my own free time.

So I've stopped posting Youtube comments entirely out of fear and I'm probably going to shut down everything google if this doesn't get any better. This all-in-one inclusive bullshiat is not how we want to conduct our lives online, and it floors me that Google is too stupid to understand that.


1) Create a new Google+ account, with absolutely no personal information about yourself in it.
2) Log out of your normal Google+/Gmail/Youtube account
3) Create a new Youtube account and link it to your new Google+ account
4) Post whatever you like on Youtube comments, without the fear of being discovered by work associates.
 
2014-01-11 07:55:49 AM
You guys know the easiest solution is to just enter a fake name for your Google+ account, right?

/John Doe reporting in.  Born 1/1/1969.
 
2014-01-11 08:15:41 AM
I have avoided G+ every time they asked me to join. The most frustrating part (and on a scale of 1-to-10, it's about a 0.11) is that they want me to use G+ to comment/review Android apps. Oh, well. They probably saved some off my time for more useful stuff, like posting on Fark. Oh, Wait...

We have several g-mail accounts,and not one has an active Google+ profile/account. For new G-mail accounts, you can still delete Google+, but it's not an easy process. It's annoying, and people need to complain to Google. It can work, look at how well Google Buzz worked out for them.
 
2014-01-11 08:42:31 AM
Considering you can have multiple Gmail accounts, I don't really think this is a big deal.  My spam gmail account is what I use for YouTube anyway.  If you don't have multiple e-mail accounts (personal, professional (non-work), and spam) then you're begging for trouble.
 
2014-01-11 08:48:54 AM

Unobtanium: I have avoided G+ every time they asked me to join. The most frustrating part (and on a scale of 1-to-10, it's about a 0.11) is that they want me to use G+ to comment/review Android apps.


I was annoyed by the G+/android app review thing as well. But then I read other peoples' reviews and realise that my 2¢ worth isn't worth 2¢ anyway (just like most of the reviews)
 
2014-01-11 09:05:05 AM
The only purpose Google+ serves is to establish another presence on the internet for people who feel it enhances their professional credibility.

"Yeah, I'm on there."

Idiots.
 
2014-01-11 09:07:14 AM
Sigh, right now it is a lot of chicken little going around with this. Basically it will be like a different type of spam (aka Promotions) folder called social. People can send you messages through Google+ but unless you go into the folder and accept the person you will never hear a peep from them. I don't even get notified for incoming promotions. This is actually less intrusive than Facebook notifying you that someone gave you a friend request through email.
 
2014-01-11 09:24:18 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: The only purpose Google+ serves is to establish another presence on the internet for people who feel it enhances their professional credibility.

"Yeah, I'm on there."

Idiots.


Sort of like pro version of Fark.
 
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