If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Huffington Post)   Darrell Issa (R-eally Evil) complains that healthcare.gov may be open to hacking, insists on un-redacted copies of the networking code, then releases it. The Aristocrats   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 192
    More: Sick, Darrell Issa, humans, Affordable Care Act, Betsy McCaughey, House Oversight, Government Reform Committee, White House Counsel, deem and pass  
•       •       •

5582 clicks; posted to Politics » on 11 Jan 2014 at 5:26 AM (28 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



192 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest
 
2014-01-10 10:18:58 PM
This sure sounds like a crime.
 
2014-01-10 10:29:51 PM
The only thing that would surprise me about this is if he didn't selectively edit the code before releasing it. Subpoenaing a shiatload of stuff and then releasing choice (leading) excerpts to far-too-credulous media is his entire modus operandi. Hence the pants-shiatting about "conservative targeting" by the IRS without including the following sentence talking about how they were also targeting liberal groups.
 
2014-01-10 10:30:13 PM
What is networking code?
 
2014-01-10 10:32:36 PM

feckingmorons: What is networking code?


They're words that WASPs use in polite company at business and social gatherings when referring to minorities.
 
2014-01-10 10:35:09 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: feckingmorons: What is networking code?

They're words that WASPs use in polite company at business and social gatherings when referring to minorities.


OK, that was funny. This month's five bucks has been earned Drew.
 
2014-01-10 10:36:05 PM

Heliovdrake: This sure sounds like a crime.


Crime usually does.
 
2014-01-10 10:43:44 PM
The letter that the article says contains excerpts of code doesn't seem to contain excerpts of code, unless he posted that separately.
 
2014-01-10 10:47:31 PM
There is something very wrong with Mr. Issa

/and anyone who defends or supports him
 
2014-01-10 10:49:47 PM
Why don't we just hand out the nuclear launch codes while we're at it.
 
2014-01-10 10:53:39 PM

NewportBarGuy: Why don't we just hand out the nuclear launch codes while we're at it.


That f*cker would do it in a heartbeat if he thought he could score a political point

/the man is the walking definition of a sh*tstain
//no shame, no pride
///just bald-faced greed and avarice
 
2014-01-10 10:59:04 PM
And the Teahadists will eat this up, and call him a Hero, especially if the released code leads to a hacker bringing the ACA website down.
 
2014-01-10 11:03:12 PM
How is this not a crime?
 
2014-01-10 11:15:59 PM

MmmmBacon: And the Teahadists will eat this up, and call him a Hero, especially if the released code leads to a hacker bringing the ACA website down.


It wouldn't be the first time Issa decided the best solution to his problems would be to just burn it all down.
 
2014-01-10 11:20:25 PM

TuteTibiImperes: MmmmBacon: And the Teahadists will eat this up, and call him a Hero, especially if the released code leads to a hacker bringing the ACA website down.

It wouldn't be the first time Issa decided the best solution to his problems would be to just burn it all down.


I see what you did there.
 
2014-01-10 11:21:28 PM

TuteTibiImperes: MmmmBacon: And the Teahadists will eat this up, and call him a Hero, especially if the released code leads to a hacker bringing the ACA website down.

It wouldn't be the first time Issa decided the best solution to his problems would be to just burn it all down.


Oh.... SWEET!

i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-10 11:57:01 PM
If anyone of you did this you would be killed for treason.
 
2014-01-11 12:01:15 AM

Makh: If anyone of you did this you would be killed for treason.


I'm sure we'll hear calls for Issa to be hanged by his neck until he is dead very soon. For releasing sensitive information directly to the internet. Fair is fair.
 
2014-01-11 12:04:39 AM
Holy F*CK. Snidely Whiplash could take lessons from this guy about cartoonish evil.
 
2014-01-11 12:05:53 AM
Christ what a Republican
 
2014-01-11 12:11:17 AM
I will never forgive that asshole for his role in making Ahnold governor of CA.
 
2014-01-11 12:11:59 AM

TuteTibiImperes: MmmmBacon: And the Teahadists will eat this up, and call him a Hero, especially if the released code leads to a hacker bringing the ACA website down.

It wouldn't be the first time Issa decided the best solution to his problems would be to just burn it all down.


Feeling stupid now, but to what are you referring?
 
2014-01-11 12:18:42 AM

Lorelle: I will never forgive that asshole for his role in making Ahnold governor of CA.


Don't blame me

/I voted for Gary Coleman
 
2014-01-11 12:25:39 AM

SilentStrider: Feeling stupid now, but to what are you referring?


Grand theft auto (x3), leaving the scene, arson, and insurance fraud.

Link
 
2014-01-11 12:28:28 AM

SilentStrider: TuteTibiImperes: MmmmBacon: And the Teahadists will eat this up, and call him a Hero, especially if the released code leads to a hacker bringing the ACA website down.

It wouldn't be the first time Issa decided the best solution to his problems would be to just burn it all down.

Feeling stupid now, but to what are you referring?


From Wikipedia:


After leaving the military, Issa and his second wife, Kathy Stanton, moved back to the Cleveland area. According to Issa he and his wife pooled their savings, sold their cars: a 1976 Mercedes and a 1967 VW Beetle as well as a BMW motorcycle and borrowed $50,000 from family members to invest in Quantum Enterprises, an electronics manufacturer run by a friend from Cleveland Heights that assembled bug zappers, CB radio parts and other consumer products for other companies. One of those clients, car alarm manufacturer Steal Stopper, would become the path to Issa's fortune. It was struggling badly, and he took control of it by foreclosing a $60,000 loan he had made to it when its founder, Joey Adkins, missed a payment. Adkins remained as an employee.[10]

Issa soon turned Steal Stopper around, to the point that it was supplying Ford with thousands of car alarms and negotiating a similar deal with Toyota. But early in the morning of September 7, 1982, the offices and factory of Quantum and Steal Stopper in the Cleveland suburb of Maple Heights caught fire. The fire took three hours to put out. The buildings and almost all the inventory within were destroyed. An investigation of the cause of the fire noted "suspicious burn patterns" with fires starting in two places aided by an accelerant such as gasoline.[10]

Adkins said Issa appeared to prepare for a fire by increasing the fire insurance policy 462% three weeks previously, and by removing computer equipment holding accounting and customer information. St. Paul Insurance, suspicious of arson and insurance fraud, initially paid only $25,000, according to Issa.
 
2014-01-11 12:29:30 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Grand theft auto (x3), leaving the scene, arson, and insurance fraud.


Oh and a gun charge conviction. EIEIO
 
2014-01-11 12:38:21 AM
This is great. Maybe a freelancer can fix it.
 
2014-01-11 12:57:12 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Lorelle: I will never forgive that asshole for his role in making Ahnold governor of CA.

Don't blame me

/I voted for Gary Coleman


I can't recall exactly who I voted for, but it was either Coleman or Larry Flynt. I also seriously considered voting for Mary Carey.
 
2014-01-11 01:04:04 AM

Lorelle: I can't recall exactly who I voted for, but it was either Coleman or Larry Flynt. I also seriously considered voting for Mary Carey.


Actually, I just say that to hide my shame at who I actually DID vote for

/if you'll recall, there were two parts: recall Davis, and who to replace him
//I voted no on the first: I didn't think the problems were all his fault
///I voted for that worthless, carpetbagging, sh*tstain teabagger Tom McClintock because I thought he was the most qualified out of that long list of idiots candidates
////talk about live and learn...
 
2014-01-11 01:22:11 AM
Enough.

They've crossed the line.  Issa's buffoonery could be tolerated when he was only hurting his reputation.  But this is, at the very least, dereliction of his constitutional duty.  At worst, it's a crime.  Either way, he needs to be expelled from office.  I only wish Boehner had the balls to do it.
 
2014-01-11 01:31:35 AM

Mentat: Enough.

They've crossed the line.  Issa's buffoonery could be tolerated when he was only hurting his reputation.  But this is, at the very least, dereliction of his constitutional duty.  At worst, it's a crime.  Either way, he needs to be expelled from office.  I only wish Boehner had the balls to do it.


Boehner's only concern is the availability of a viable liver donor

/he's lived without balls this long...
 
2014-01-11 01:44:49 AM
Issa isn't evil.  He's just weapons grade stupid.
 
2014-01-11 01:51:37 AM
He's an ass, but if anyone, ANYONE in this thread who already posted bothered to read the letter or follow the links in the article, you'd realize no code was released.  While the article was written with the usual hyperbole, it was only referring to a "roadmap" for hackers, but read this letter:

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/sebelius1217.pdf

There aren't details there a "hacker" could use.  It's an assertion that vulnerabilities exist, but it doesn't explain what they are.  It does go into hyperbolic detail about what could happen if those vulnerabilities are exploited.  I can't find any source code links at all in the letter or the article.
 
2014-01-11 01:57:13 AM

Bucky Katt: Issa isn't evil.  He's just weapons grade stupid.


"Stupid" implies forgivable ignorance. Issa isn't stupid. He's malicious. Releasing secret and classified information is his SOP, and he does it with knowledge and intent.
 
2014-01-11 02:02:20 AM

Lsherm: He's an ass, but if anyone, ANYONE in this thread who already posted bothered to read the letter or follow the links in the article, you'd realize no code was released.


I read the letter. amnd I'm not outraged by it in any way.

But...

that does not mean no code was released with the letter, if not in the letter.
 
2014-01-11 02:04:23 AM

Heliovdrake: This sure sounds like a crime.


it just might be
 
2014-01-11 02:10:03 AM

log_jammin: Lsherm: He's an ass, but if anyone, ANYONE in this thread who already posted bothered to read the letter or follow the links in the article, you'd realize no code was released.

I read the letter. amnd I'm not outraged by it in any way.

But...

that does not mean no code was released with the letter, if not in the letter.


I thought about that, but I can't find anything online that supports it.  If he did, it may take some time for it to come out, but I don't believe the press is just sitting on it.
 
2014-01-11 05:16:32 AM
i146.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-11 05:35:33 AM
What a farking child.
 
2014-01-11 05:35:58 AM

NewportBarGuy: Why don't we just hand out the nuclear launch codes while we're at it.


00000000000000000000
 
2014-01-11 05:37:29 AM
He does have a pattern of releasing any sensitive information that comes his way.
 
2014-01-11 05:43:14 AM

Harry_Seldon: NewportBarGuy: Why don't we just hand out the nuclear launch codes while we're at it.

00000000000000000000


It's actually 0.0.0.destruct.0.
 
2014-01-11 06:01:15 AM
Of course it's farking Darrell Issa
 
2014-01-11 06:26:19 AM
as much as I dislike Issa, I'm skeptical about this.

1) There was no code in the letter linked by TFA.

2) Issa may be an opportunist and a terrible human being, but he is very tech savvy. He has to know that releasing the source code for a critical government website (especially one that collects vital user data) can only bite him in the ass in the long run.
 
2014-01-11 06:36:34 AM

TuteTibiImperes: The letter that the article says contains excerpts of code doesn't seem to contain excerpts of code, unless he posted that separately.


Of course not; it's IN CODE.

/duh
 
2014-01-11 06:45:46 AM

Snapper Carr: as much as I dislike Issa, I'm skeptical about this.

1) There was no code in the letter linked by TFA.

2) Issa may be an opportunist and a terrible human being, but he is very tech savvy. He has to know that releasing the source code for a critical government website (especially one that collects vital user data) can only bite him in the ass in the long run.


Except he's released classified and sensitive info before without repercussion.
 
2014-01-11 06:54:52 AM

Atillathepun: Snapper Carr: as much as I dislike Issa, I'm skeptical about this.

1) There was no code in the letter linked by TFA.

2) Issa may be an opportunist and a terrible human being, but he is very tech savvy. He has to know that releasing the source code for a critical government website (especially one that collects vital user data) can only bite him in the ass in the long run.

Except he's released classified and sensitive info before without repercussion.


And these people do not operate with any comprehension of possible consequences, because they're, you know, fighting evil or some sh*t.
 
2014-01-11 07:02:43 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: There is something very wrong with Mr. Issa

/and anyone who defends or supports him


i18.photobucket.com
Issa asshole!
 
2014-01-11 07:10:17 AM
Need to find him 200 million dollars for that.
 
2014-01-11 07:11:56 AM
Are the people calling Issa a traitor the same people who called Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden heroes?
 
2014-01-11 07:18:34 AM
From TFA: It remains to be seen if Issa will release more excerpts from the documents, but he's got quite a track record of leaking sensitive information. In Oct. 2012, he compromised the identity of Libyans working with the U.S. by posting 166 pages of sensitive State Department cables online. He leaked a document in May 2011 that was covered by a court-ordered seal, he released sensitive information in July 2011 about security breaches at U.S. airports and in June 2012, he revealed information from court-sealed wiretaps while speaking on the House floor.

How the hell is this guy still in office, much less still being given access to sensitive information?
 
2014-01-11 07:31:08 AM

Bucky Katt: Issa isn't evil.  He's just weapons grade stupid.


media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-11 07:31:38 AM

Rueened: Harry_Seldon: NewportBarGuy: Why don't we just hand out the nuclear launch codes while we're at it.

00000000000000000000

It's actually 0.0.0.destruct.0.


I thought it was U.U.D.D.L.R.L.R.B.A.Start
 
2014-01-11 07:37:28 AM

Mayhem_2006: Bucky Katt: Issa isn't evil.  He's just weapons grade stupid.


Nope, he's evil. Government agencies are desperately fighting his subpoenas because he constantly leaks out what he gets. He is trying to systematically wreck the government's ability to function.
 
2014-01-11 07:45:54 AM

Mayhem_2006: Bucky Katt: Issa isn't evil.  He's just weapons grade stupid.

[media.tumblr.com image 400x389]


I'll tell you why not both... he's extremely EFFECTIVE at doing evil things.  This means that he can be good and stupid, thus resulting in evil actions.  He can also be evil and smart, thus resulting in evil actions.  If he is evil and stupid, he would accidentally do more good than harm.
 
2014-01-11 07:48:54 AM

TuteTibiImperes: The letter that the article says contains excerpts of code doesn't seem to contain excerpts of code, unless he posted that separately.


Its only citation, however, is one farking Yahoo news article.  That ALONE is grounds for at least a hefty fine, in my book.
 
2014-01-11 07:50:22 AM
Can we finally start having a serious national discussion about getting our sanitation-working Italian relatives who live in New Jersey involved in this matter?
 
2014-01-11 07:57:59 AM
Ariel Sharon dead.. I'm guessing TotalFark is filling up with submission now.
 
2014-01-11 08:00:21 AM

Alphax: Ariel Sharon dead.. I'm guessing TotalFark is filling up with submission now.


I ran a death pool for a few years.  I had Ariel on it for 5 god damn years and that f*cker never budged.  Gave up the death pool a few years back.

DAMN YOU SHARONNNNNNNNNNN!
 
2014-01-11 08:03:11 AM
If they have nothing to hide, they should have nothing to fear, right?
 
2014-01-11 08:04:08 AM

Alphax: Ariel Sharon dead.. I'm guessing TotalFark is filling up with submission now.


Guess now, he'll be Subterranean Sharon.
www.m.brobible.com
i378.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-11 08:09:07 AM
img.fark.net

Errrrr......Whoops...wrong thread!
 
2014-01-11 08:10:21 AM
www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-01-11 08:11:17 AM
i.qkme.me
 
2014-01-11 08:12:43 AM

pueblonative: Rueened: Harry_Seldon: NewportBarGuy: Why don't we just hand out the nuclear launch codes while we're at it.

00000000000000000000

It's actually 0.0.0.destruct.0.

I thought it was U.U.D.D.L.R.L.R.B.A.Start


That self destruct code only works on Gradius 3 on the SNES.
 
2014-01-11 08:12:43 AM
i.qkme.me
 
2014-01-11 08:23:22 AM
"Security through obscurity" is a weak form of security. If there are flaws in the design then they will be found and exploited even in the absence of source code.
 
2014-01-11 08:28:05 AM
Unbelievably stupid. Farrah Abraham look like a Rhodes Scholar by comparison.
 
2014-01-11 08:28:25 AM
What issa did is obviously reprehensible and he should be punished, but question regarding this:

Why not make it open source? There has to be a team or coders out there who would gladly look over the code, point out problems or offer advice. They can check to see if any back doors were being added, check to make sure the security is up to standard, whatever.

Why is the us government concerned about the code being released? Wouldn't it be stronger if it was public and white hats can go over it and point out the problems before taking it live?
 
2014-01-11 08:29:42 AM

Apos: Unbelievably stupid. Farrah Abraham looks like a Rhodes Scholar by comparison.

Fixed.
 
2014-01-11 08:36:58 AM

MattStafford: What issa did is obviously reprehensible and he should be punished, but question regarding this:

Why not make it open source? There has to be a team or coders out there who would gladly look over the code, point out problems or offer advice. They can check to see if any back doors were being added, check to make sure the security is up to standard, whatever.

Why is the us government concerned about the code being released? Wouldn't it be stronger if it was public and white hats can go over it and point out the problems before taking it live?


There may be HIPAA considerations that prevent the use of Open Source code. By law the personal information of people who use the ACA website must be protected, and letting anyone have access to the code for that site - which could place user's personal information at risk - is not acceptable.
 
2014-01-11 08:38:16 AM

Makh: If anyone of you did this you would be killed for treason.


this.  it seems like everything this clown does is shameless and serves the interest of undermining our national (IT)security
 
2014-01-11 08:43:44 AM

MmmmBacon: MattStafford: What issa did is obviously reprehensible and he should be punished, but question regarding this:

Why not make it open source? There has to be a team or coders out there who would gladly look over the code, point out problems or offer advice. They can check to see if any back doors were being added, check to make sure the security is up to standard, whatever.

Why is the us government concerned about the code being released? Wouldn't it be stronger if it was public and white hats can go over it and point out the problems before taking it live?

There may be HIPAA considerations that prevent the use of Open Source code. By law the personal information of people who use the ACA website must be protected, and letting anyone have access to the code for that site - which could place user's personal information at risk - is not acceptable.


Surely there isn't any PHI in the actual code? It seems like the suggestion is that making it open source would allow that data to be more easily accessed, but I think people would come together to make sure it was a secure as possible.

If there were problems connecting to the various systems housing the information, just create identical fake systems. Although I'm sure I think that is easier than it actually is.
 
2014-01-11 08:44:24 AM
Any government employee with a security clearance who did this would be canned and prosecuted before they even knew what happened.
 
2014-01-11 08:53:57 AM

smoothmat.files.wordpress.com
"Issa gone crazy!"



/Oblig
//Seriously....He needs to be committed.
 
2014-01-11 08:54:22 AM
This should be obligatory to all Issa threads:

The definition of true, ultimate karma is Darrell Issa being trapped in a stolen, burning car that uses one of his old Viper alarms. And as the flames get hotter and hotter, the car alarm activates and says "Please die in this car fire" in his voice..... over and over and over again.
 
2014-01-11 08:54:27 AM

Heliovdrake: This sure sounds like a crime.


The 1% don't commit crimes.
 
2014-01-11 09:02:30 AM

Heliovdrake: This sure sounds like a crime.


This is from the same guy who released the unreviewed material from Benghazi, material that included names of our informants in the area. He isn't gonna go to jail, no matter how many times/ways he purposely sabotages our government.
 
2014-01-11 09:19:22 AM

NewportBarGuy: Why don't we just hand out the nuclear launch codes while we're at it.


Nah, how about Mr. Issa's SSN? I'd ask for his mother's maiden name, but slime molds reproduce asexually I think.
 
2014-01-11 09:22:29 AM
Information wants to be free!
 
2014-01-11 09:28:11 AM

jso2897: MaudlinMutantMollusk: There is something very wrong with Mr. Issa

/and anyone who defends or supports him

[i18.photobucket.com image 400x382]
Issa asshole!


i734.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-11 09:31:55 AM
Sounds like grounds for at least having his classification revoked.
 
2014-01-11 09:40:23 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Sounds like grounds for at least having his classification revoked.


That would be HILARIOUS.
 
2014-01-11 09:43:18 AM

Alphax: He does have a pattern of releasing any sensitive information that comes his way.


This right here is why Issa needs to be kicked to the goddamn curb when it comes to having the power he does right now.  He's a disgrace and has already shown he doesn't give a damn if he releases sensitive documents (or put people's lives at risk), just so long as he 'sticks it to the Dems'.
 
2014-01-11 09:43:28 AM
Republicans... doing everything they can to sabotage every effort to improve the country when they're not in power and doing everything they can to fark the country over when they are in power.
 
2014-01-11 09:46:03 AM

Wyalt Derp: Are the people calling Issa a traitor the same people who called Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden heroes?


Not me. All three of them are traitors. Even if what Issa did this time wasn't treason, his release of sensitive information about our intelligence operations in Libya was. It's a big step from "extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" to "treason in the defense of political advantage is no vice."
 
2014-01-11 09:52:04 AM

MmmmBacon: MattStafford: What issa did is obviously reprehensible and he should be punished, but question regarding this:

Why not make it open source? There has to be a team or coders out there who would gladly look over the code, point out problems or offer advice. They can check to see if any back doors were being added, check to make sure the security is up to standard, whatever.

Why is the us government concerned about the code being released? Wouldn't it be stronger if it was public and white hats can go over it and point out the problems before taking it live?

There may be HIPAA considerations that prevent the use of Open Source code. By law the personal information of people who use the ACA website must be protected, and letting anyone have access to the code for that site - which could place user's personal information at risk - is not acceptable.


Uh... nope.  Open source doesn't make it easier to hack information, it makes it easier for anyone to look at the code so any security flaws that could make HIPPA considerations vulnerable would become more likely noticed and fixed.  Open source doesn't give access to stored information.  Linux is open source and is far superior in its security than the likes of Windows.
 
2014-01-11 09:55:43 AM
...and Edward Snowden is still considered a traitor.
 
2014-01-11 09:55:49 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Sounds like grounds for at least having his classification revoked.


That would be pretty funny and also entirely appropriate, but I don't think it's possible to deny any level of clearance short of the executive-restricted (e.g. nuclear launch codes) to members of congress.  For the practical reason that congress sets the legal side of said levels of classification if nothing else.
 
2014-01-11 09:56:10 AM

Peter von Nostrand: Christ what a Republican


Perfectly said.
 
2014-01-11 10:02:40 AM

mamoru: From TFA: It remains to be seen if Issa will release more excerpts from the documents, but he's got quite a track record of leaking sensitive information. In Oct. 2012, he compromised the identity of Libyans working with the U.S. by posting 166 pages of sensitive State Department cables online. He leaked a document in May 2011 that was covered by a court-ordered seal, he released sensitive information in July 2011 about security breaches at U.S. airports and in June 2012, he revealed information from court-sealed wiretaps while speaking on the House floor.

How the hell is this guy still in office, much less still being given access to sensitive information?


He has a net worth of 460M...he is able to understand the common man so well
 
2014-01-11 10:10:15 AM

Semantic Warrior: MmmmBacon: MattStafford: What issa did is obviously reprehensible and he should be punished, but question regarding this:

Why not make it open source? There has to be a team or coders out there who would gladly look over the code, point out problems or offer advice. They can check to see if any back doors were being added, check to make sure the security is up to standard, whatever.

Why is the us government concerned about the code being released? Wouldn't it be stronger if it was public and white hats can go over it and point out the problems before taking it live?

There may be HIPAA considerations that prevent the use of Open Source code. By law the personal information of people who use the ACA website must be protected, and letting anyone have access to the code for that site - which could place user's personal information at risk - is not acceptable.

Uh... nope.  Open source doesn't make it easier to hack information, it makes it easier for anyone to look at the code so any security flaws that could make HIPPA considerations vulnerable would become more likely noticed and fixed.  Open source doesn't give access to stored information.  Linux is open source and is far superior in its security than the likes of Windows.


Linux has had a long time to mature and work out potential security flaws. Open Source can be great to develop a finished product that's been rigorously tested, but there's a big difference between developing something from the get-go as an open source project and publishing the source code for something that was developed behind closed doors after it's already gone live.

Security through obscurity isn't a long term solution, or a replacement for continual testing for security holes, but it does buy time to fix problems before they become known and can be exploited.
 
2014-01-11 10:12:09 AM

tbhouston: mamoru: From TFA: It remains to be seen if Issa will release more excerpts from the documents, but he's got quite a track record of leaking sensitive information. In Oct. 2012, he compromised the identity of Libyans working with the U.S. by posting 166 pages of sensitive State Department cables online. He leaked a document in May 2011 that was covered by a court-ordered seal, he released sensitive information in July 2011 about security breaches at U.S. airports and in June 2012, he revealed information from court-sealed wiretaps while speaking on the House floor.

How the hell is this guy still in office, much less still being given access to sensitive information?

He has a net worth of 460M...he is able to understand the common man so well


He can buy and sell hundreds of them.
 
2014-01-11 10:16:06 AM

Snapper Carr: as much as I dislike Issa, I'm skeptical about this.

1) There was no code in the letter linked by TFA.

2) Issa may be an opportunist and a terrible human being, but he is very tech savvy. He has to know that releasing the source code for a critical government website (especially one that collects vital user data) can only bite him in the ass in the long run.


He's released information on the location of secret CIA facilities before.  You think that releasing webcode matters to him?  Might want to rethink no. 2 there.

Plus, never under estimate his stupidity.  He might just think they're being overly dramatic and it's not really a big deal.
 
2014-01-11 10:20:01 AM
www.newsbiscuit.com
seriously, this is what the modern republican party is becoming.  hilarious if it werent terrifying.
 
2014-01-11 10:21:43 AM
Really getting tired of willfully ignorant Luddites making decisions for the rest of us about technology that they dont understand.

These decisions will effect our productivity and scientific advancement for years to come.

/ This is why we cant have nice things...
 
2014-01-11 10:25:28 AM
What is Issa even going to do with raw code, debug it? Hold hearings about the exception error that happens when you submit a letter in a number field?
 
2014-01-11 10:30:30 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: What is Issa even going to do with raw code, debug it? Hold hearings about the exception error that happens when you submit a letter in a number field?


I want 7 hearings a week times 40 weeks!  And if you do that using 2 FOR operations with iterative cycles, don't f*ck it up with a syntax error!
 
2014-01-11 10:31:09 AM
Semantic Warrior:
Uh... nope.  Open source doesn't make it easier to hack information, it makes it easier for anyone to look at the code so any security flaws that could make HIPPA considerations vulnerable would become more likely noticed and fixed.  Open source doesn't give access to stored information.  Linux is open source and is far superior in its security than the likes of Windows.

This is more debatable than you Linux cowboys want to make it out to be.

But it *is* debatable, as opposed to clear that we should just trust in the closed-source semi-monopolies.

And it is tangential, the point that remains is that Issa has once again leaked classified information which could damage the functioning of our country in order to attack political enemies.
 
2014-01-11 10:33:05 AM

coeyagi: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: What is Issa even going to do with raw code, debug it? Hold hearings about the exception error that happens when you submit a letter in a number field?

I want 7 hearings a week times 40 weeks!  And if you do that using 2 FOR operations with iterative cycles, don't f*ck it up with a syntax error!


"Did you or did you not forget to close your bracket on line 4308?!"

"I... I don't know, sir."
 
2014-01-11 10:51:11 AM
 This is exactly how much "good faith" they have been "negotiating" with all along. They had 8 years under a Republican administration with the expectation of a rubber stamp on  everything they did but under a Democrat administration they have stone walled everything and done anything to fark things up. These monsters never need to see the inside of the White House ever again.
 
2014-01-11 11:03:21 AM

Markoff_Cheney: [www.newsbiscuit.com image 375x291]
seriously, this is what the modern republican party is becoming.  hilarious if it werent terrifying.


www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hilarifying
 
2014-01-11 11:10:00 AM
It doesn't matter what they do with the website.  The system itself is functioning just fine, with millions enrolled and we're only a few weeks into 2014.

While they're screwing around with a website, people are getting insurance.  Typical easy-to-confuse GOPers.
 
2014-01-11 11:22:13 AM
He's a whistleblower, just like Snowden
 
2014-01-11 11:23:49 AM

netweavr: He's a whistleblower, just like Snowden


www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-01-11 11:24:37 AM
How is this farker not in prison yet?
 
2014-01-11 11:25:21 AM

that bosnian sniper: How is this farker not in prison yet?


He's more useful to the Democrats with a microphone in his hand and the illusion of power.
 
2014-01-11 11:25:25 AM
If you're a Republican, stick the barrel of one of those guns you love so much into your mouth and pull the farking trigger. It'll be the first decent thing you've ever done.
 
2014-01-11 11:30:14 AM
I farking hate this man.
 
2014-01-11 11:31:56 AM
This is why Republicans should be cut out of the process of governance to the very limit that the law allows.  They aren't here to help.  They want to destroy everything.
 
2014-01-11 11:34:33 AM
hipiseverything.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-11 11:35:54 AM
fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net
 
2014-01-11 11:37:08 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-11 11:37:37 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: What is Issa even going to do with raw code, debug it? Hold hearings about the exception error that happens when you submit a letter in a number field?


1. Obtain Source Code.
2. Covertly leak source code to contracted grey hat hackers.
3. Set up fake Syrian/Iranian "Hacker Group" on social media to bring down the ACA as an act of "terrorism"
4. Exploit site.
5. Dump sensitive information.
6. Democrat Impeachments and prosecutions.
7. War with Iran.
 
2014-01-11 11:38:24 AM
quietmike.org
 
2014-01-11 11:38:44 AM

coeyagi: [hipiseverything.files.wordpress.com image 850x656]


I beg to differ -- having the entire Amazon lodged in his eye, lobbing boulders from the safety of his own glass house, at imaginary splinters is  exactly what one would expect of a conservative Republican..
 
2014-01-11 11:39:20 AM

Gordon Bennett: If you're a Republican, stick the barrel of one of those guns you love so much into your mouth and pull the farking trigger. It'll be the first decent thing you've ever done.


Mmm. That sounds delightful.

Imagine if they were all gone. There'd be world peace within 10 years. 15 tops.

We'd be able to repair our relationships with the countries they've wrecked over the years. All of our children would be safer, healthier and have better educations. We could use military funds to devise better ways to clean the environment, or for space exploration and food distribution. There wouldn't be anything that we couldn't do.

We just need to lead the GOPigs to the slaughter. History would forgive us. It's a win-win-win all around.
 
2014-01-11 11:40:29 AM

MisterEZ: Gordon Bennett: If you're a Republican, stick the barrel of one of those guns you love so much into your mouth and pull the farking trigger. It'll be the first decent thing you've ever done.

Mmm. That sounds delightful.

Imagine if they were all gone. There'd be world peace within 10 years. 15 tops.

We'd be able to repair our relationships with the countries they've wrecked over the years. All of our children would be safer, healthier and have better educations. We could use military funds to devise better ways to clean the environment, or for space exploration and food distribution. There wouldn't be anything that we couldn't do.

We just need to lead the GOPigs to the slaughter. History would forgive us. It's a win-win-win all around.


Not sure if serious, but if you are, STOP IT.
 
2014-01-11 11:41:53 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: SilentStrider: Feeling stupid now, but to what are you referring?

Grand theft auto (x3), leaving the scene, arson, and insurance fraud.

Link


Holy crap, I thought he was a douche but I had no idea he was that downright evil. The guy sounds like a psychopath.
 
2014-01-11 11:43:16 AM
Grandiloquent Grapefruit:
Holy crap, I thought he was a douche but I had no idea he was that downright evil. The guy sounds like a psychopath.

Well that's reason one why his resume wasn't simply thrown into the trash by the Greedy Plutocrat Party.
 
2014-01-11 11:46:51 AM

MisterEZ: Imagine if they were all gone. There'd be world peace within 10 years. 15 tops.

We'd be able to repair our relationships with the countries they've wrecked over the years. All of our children would be safer, healthier and have better educations. We could use military funds to devise better ways to clean the environment, or for space exploration and food distribution. There wouldn't be anything that we couldn't do.


Their Rapture is our Rapture as well.
 
2014-01-11 11:49:09 AM

Grandiloquent Grapefruit: Dusk-You-n-Me: SilentStrider: Feeling stupid now, but to what are you referring?

Grand theft auto (x3), leaving the scene, arson, and insurance fraud.

Link

Holy crap, I thought he was a douche but I had no idea he was that downright evil. The guy sounds like a psychopath.


Scum does tend to rise to the top
 
2014-01-11 11:55:00 AM

GoldSpider: ...and Edward Snowden is still considered a traitor.


Yep. And that chick that used to be Bradley Manning. Classified material is not meant to be public. That is why it's classified.
 
2014-01-11 11:57:02 AM

Wyalt Derp: Are the people calling Issa a traitor the same people who called Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden heroes?


Are the people who can't tell the difference just flaming morons?
 
2014-01-11 12:02:17 PM

Atillathepun: Snapper Carr: as much as I dislike Issa, I'm skeptical about this.

1) There was no code in the letter linked by TFA.

2) Issa may be an opportunist and a terrible human being, but he is very tech savvy. He has to know that releasing the source code for a critical government website (especially one that collects vital user data) can only bite him in the ass in the long run.

Except he's released classified and sensitive info before without repercussion.


Says the people who are telling you he is releasing sensitive information this time.  Fool you twice?
 
2014-01-11 12:05:26 PM

TheBigJerk: Semantic Warrior:
Uh... nope.  Open source doesn't make it easier to hack information, it makes it easier for anyone to look at the code so any security flaws that could make HIPPA considerations vulnerable would become more likely noticed and fixed.  Open source doesn't give access to stored information.  Linux is open source and is far superior in its security than the likes of Windows.

This is more debatable than you Linux cowboys want to make it out to be.

But it *is* debatable, as opposed to clear that we should just trust in the closed-source semi-monopolies.

And it is tangential, the point that remains is that Issa has once again leaked classified information which could damage the functioning of our country in order to attack political enemies.


It's debatable in the same way that economy stimulation via food assistance vs tax cuts is debatable, that is to say that for some people the idea "hidden HAS to be more secure" seems so simple that mountains of data collected on the subject can't move them.
 
2014-01-11 12:05:44 PM
Why is Issa even allowed access to classified documents anymore? Has he ever been granted access to a secret document that he didn't leak to the media?
 
2014-01-11 12:07:43 PM

neomunk: TheBigJerk: Semantic Warrior:
Uh... nope.  Open source doesn't make it easier to hack information, it makes it easier for anyone to look at the code so any security flaws that could make HIPPA considerations vulnerable would become more likely noticed and fixed.  Open source doesn't give access to stored information.  Linux is open source and is far superior in its security than the likes of Windows.

This is more debatable than you Linux cowboys want to make it out to be.

But it *is* debatable, as opposed to clear that we should just trust in the closed-source semi-monopolies.

And it is tangential, the point that remains is that Issa has once again leaked classified information which could damage the functioning of our country in order to attack political enemies.

It's debatable in the same way that economy stimulation via food assistance vs tax cuts is debatable, that is to say that for some people the idea "hidden HAS to be more secure" seems so simple that mountains of data collected on the subject can't move them.


Oh, I forget to mention that I 100% agree on it being tangential to the situation, this scum is doing all he THINKS he can do to harm us and our healthcare.   Even if he inadvertently made the site stronger, he did it by accident while trying to tear it down.
 
2014-01-11 12:12:03 PM

lordjupiter: Markoff_Cheney: [www.newsbiscuit.com image 375x291]
seriously, this is what the modern republican party is becoming.  hilarious if it werent terrifying.

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hilarifying


i took a glance and saw urban dictionary and thought i had farked up my post.  its getting to where i am questioning the onionness of an article or two every farking day here.
and how the hell does this man still have a farking job?
 
2014-01-11 12:17:55 PM

Cataholic: Atillathepun: Snapper Carr: as much as I dislike Issa, I'm skeptical about this.

1) There was no code in the letter linked by TFA.

2) Issa may be an opportunist and a terrible human being, but he is very tech savvy. He has to know that releasing the source code for a critical government website (especially one that collects vital user data) can only bite him in the ass in the long run.

Except he's released classified and sensitive info before without repercussion.

Says the people who are telling you he is releasing sensitive information this time.  Fool you twice?


If it wasn't sensitive information he could've gotten it without having to beg for it like a child.
 
2014-01-11 12:31:43 PM
why the fark is this guy not in prison?
 
2014-01-11 12:37:18 PM

MattStafford: What issa did is obviously reprehensible and he should be punished, but question regarding this:

Why not make it open source? There has to be a team or coders out there who would gladly look over the code, point out problems or offer advice. They can check to see if any back doors were being added, check to make sure the security is up to standard, whatever.

Why is the us government concerned about the code being released? Wouldn't it be stronger if it was public and white hats can go over it and point out the problems before taking it live?


Let's suppose, as a thought exercise, that it takes an equal amount of time to write an exploit versus to patch it.

Joe has read about a vulnerability in Issa's docs, and takes 24 hours to write an exploit, after which he uses it to gain information.
Jan has read about the same vulnerability, and takes 24 hours to write a patch.  Since Jan is just some random person looking at the open source code, Jan goes through 24 months of government bureaucracy to get the fix applied.  Two years after Joe already got what he wanted and left.

Open source doesn't really work as a security mechanism when your "good" developers can't actually make changes.
 
2014-01-11 12:42:12 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Christ what a Republican


Dude, not cool. Children could read this.
 
2014-01-11 12:59:28 PM
Government websites are government property, yes? He should be in a jail cell now.
 
2014-01-11 01:11:33 PM

Anonymous Bosch: Government websites are government property, yes? He should be in a jail cell now.


When the site is actually breached, no one will ever be able to actually prove that the "Syrian Electronic Army" didn't actually do it with the exploit derived from source code obtained by the GOP.
 
2014-01-11 01:13:22 PM
Terrorist attack.
 
2014-01-11 01:13:41 PM

INTERTRON: Open source doesn't really work as a security mechanism when your "good" developers can't actually make changes.


This is the single best argument I've ever heard against OSS.  Kudos.

Sounds like we've got a culture of insecure practices going on in Public Sector IT.  Perhaps we need a "Loose Lips Sink Ships" type of propaganda campaign to fix it.  "Slow Patching? Plots Hatching!" or something like that.  The whole "we've got this under control, and that retaining that control means you must remain ignorant" philosophy isn't working very well, it just serves to cover up the all-too-common oopsies that keep occurring.
 
2014-01-11 01:19:38 PM
In his defense:

IF YOUR SUPER-SECURE CODE IS ONLY SECURE BECAUSE NO ONE SEES THE CODE, YOU'RE FARKED.

/Now, are there probably bugs?  Yes.  And was this stupid?  Yes.
//And hopefully the techies will go running through this code and laugh at them all.
///I was going to say "fix them and then submit a patch," but FFS, it's government.  The techies hate y'alls and the government wouldn't accept anonymous patches anyways.
 
2014-01-11 01:23:47 PM
All I know is he's sticking it to them libruls, and that's all that matters! Them damn libruls just don't get it.
www.desertrosebooks.com
 
2014-01-11 01:26:01 PM
Handing Darrell Issa sensitive documents is like handing a 12 year old boy a stack of Playboy magazines. You know he's going to share them.
 
2014-01-11 01:28:23 PM

red5ish: Handing Darrell Issa sensitive documents is like handing a 12 year old boy a stack of Playboy magazines. You know he's going to share them.


And those documents will be stuck together when you get them back.
 
2014-01-11 01:38:20 PM
Could you imagine the security nightmare if someone released the source code to something like an ENTIRE operating system? Especially one used on servers the world over, what a nightmare it would be!

Security through obscurity is the only true method to remain safe. Glad we all know that.
 
2014-01-11 01:45:26 PM
You do know that Issa is Arabic for Jesus.

The first rule of government agency software development is you never give your code to Jesus.
 
2014-01-11 01:49:40 PM
Properly written code does not need secrecy to remain secure.
 
2014-01-11 01:56:25 PM

meyerkev: In his defense:

IF YOUR SUPER-SECURE CODE IS ONLY SECURE BECAUSE NO ONE SEES THE CODE, YOU'RE FARKED.

/Now, are there probably bugs?  Yes.  And was this stupid?  Yes.
//And hopefully the techies will go running through this code and laugh at them all.
///I was going to say "fix them and then submit a patch," but FFS, it's government.  The techies hate y'alls and the government wouldn't accept anonymous patches anyways.


This argument is like saying "if you only lock your door, you deserve to be broken into"
 
2014-01-11 01:57:29 PM

coeyagi: netweavr: He's a whistleblower, just like Snowden

[www.quickmeme.com image 625x538]


Power Rangers toys? You, sir, are my new favorite person. :D

/hang Issa for treason plz
 
2014-01-11 01:57:52 PM
Why doesn't the NSA give him a 50-page document about Benghazi that "accidentally" contains Issa's SSN and bank information?
 
2014-01-11 02:05:43 PM

cameroncrazy1984: meyerkev: In his defense:

IF YOUR SUPER-SECURE CODE IS ONLY SECURE BECAUSE NO ONE SEES THE CODE, YOU'RE FARKED.

/Now, are there probably bugs?  Yes.  And was this stupid?  Yes.
//And hopefully the techies will go running through this code and laugh at them all.
///I was going to say "fix them and then submit a patch," but FFS, it's government.  The techies hate y'alls and the government wouldn't accept anonymous patches anyways.

This argument is like saying "if you only lock your door, you deserve to be broken into"


Or in this case, If we hand the GOP's minions the code to the vault, there's no way at all they'll go in late at night and wreck up the place.
 
2014-01-11 02:17:17 PM

Wyalt Derp: Are the people calling Issa a traitor the same people who called Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden heroes?


Releasing information with the purpose of destroying a website that is designed to help people is not the same as releasing information about wrongdoing by our government that hurts people.

Be less stupid next time.
 
2014-01-11 02:28:11 PM

Heliovdrake: How is this not a crime?


It is a crime, along with the other leaks he has made in the past. He should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. In his case that means charging him with treason and going for the death penalty.
 
2014-01-11 02:33:30 PM
How the hell is that guy not being charged with treason?
 
2014-01-11 02:38:00 PM

theknuckler_33: How the hell is that guy not being charged with treason?


Because treason is when you betray your own nation to a foreign government. Attempting to undermine the country from within falls under seditious conspiracy.

Which of course is the God given right of the GOP to commit as they take the country back from those heathen libfarts and their marijuana scented kenyan bongo farts.
 
2014-01-11 02:47:23 PM

TheBigJerk: Semantic Warrior:
Uh... nope.  Open source doesn't make it easier to hack information, it makes it easier for anyone to look at the code so any security flaws that could make HIPPA considerations vulnerable would become more likely noticed and fixed.  Open source doesn't give access to stored information.  Linux is open source and is far superior in its security than the likes of Windows.

This is more debatable than you Linux cowboys want to make it out to be.

But it *is* debatable, as opposed to clear that we should just trust in the closed-source semi-monopolies.

And it is tangential, the point that remains is that Issa has once again leaked classified information which could damage the functioning of our country in order to attack political enemies.


Oh I'm not arguing any of that at all, just hindsight.  In a true democratic sense, the People could have designed a better sight.
 
2014-01-11 02:50:08 PM

cameroncrazy1984: This argument is like saying "if you only lock your door, you deserve to be broken into"


It's more like saying "If you don't lock the door, but trust that no one knows where it is, then you deserve to be broken into."

/Security by Obscurity is worse than no security at all.
 
2014-01-11 02:51:38 PM

toomuchwhargarbl: theknuckler_33: How the hell is that guy not being charged with treason?

Because treason is when you betray your own nation to a foreign government. Attempting to undermine the country from within falls under seditious conspiracy.

Which of course is the God given right of the GOP to commit as they take the country back from those heathen libfarts and their marijuana scented kenyan bongo farts.


The part that absolutely pisses me off is that if the tables were reversed, you could bet every single penny you own that there would be petitions to execute the guy made over night in all 50 states if a Democrat released part of source code to a similar GOP website.
 
2014-01-11 03:05:56 PM

efgeise: The part that absolutely pisses me off is that if the tables were reversed, you could bet every single penny you own that there would be petitions to execute the guy made over night in all 50 states if a Democrat released part of source code to a similar GOP website.


Republicans are bullies, Democrats are the kids that have just taken bullying as a given and internalized the bully's abuse to the point that they feel they deserve it. We're sooooo sorry for not being Republicans, may we have another?

There really is no opposition party in America, and I'm not sure after the way that the GOP's Military/Police/Industrial and Media complexes took down Occupy through criminalization of emerging leaders and propaganda bombardment that one could exist at this point without massive upheaval. And things really just aren't bad enough for that to happen, plus many people would die.

TLDR version: The GOP is on a Jihad, and the ends justify the means.
 
2014-01-11 03:10:50 PM

Semantic Warrior: TheBigJerk: Semantic Warrior:
Uh... nope.  Open source doesn't make it easier to hack information, it makes it easier for anyone to look at the code so any security flaws that could make HIPPA considerations vulnerable would become more likely noticed and fixed.  Open source doesn't give access to stored information.  Linux is open source and is far superior in its security than the likes of Windows.

This is more debatable than you Linux cowboys want to make it out to be.

But it *is* debatable, as opposed to clear that we should just trust in the closed-source semi-monopolies.

And it is tangential, the point that remains is that Issa has once again leaked classified information which could damage the functioning of our country in order to attack political enemies.

Oh I'm not arguing any of that at all, just hindsight.  In a true democratic sense, the People could have designed a better sight.

Wow, site.

 
2014-01-11 03:19:56 PM
Republicans don't care if their actions harm the government.  In fact, that's exactly what they want to do.
 
2014-01-11 03:25:45 PM

Pincy: Republicans don't care if their actions harm the government.  In fact, that's exactly what they want to do.


Only if they're not in control of it. It's called petulance... and they have it in abundance.
 
2014-01-11 03:26:30 PM
imagizer.imageshack.us

OgreMagi: Properly written code does not need secrecy to remain secure.


Captain Midnight disagrees.
 
2014-01-11 03:27:29 PM

Wyalt Derp: Are the people calling Issa a traitor the same people who called Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden heroes?


All three are traitors. Are the same partisan assholes going to hide behind their constructed fallacies and allow anyone with an (R) behind their name to fark this country over without a farking peep or, per the usual, attempt to use derp logic to defend the indefensible? I think we know the answer to that one.
 
2014-01-11 03:55:37 PM
Bender The Offender:
All three are traitors. Are the same partisan assholes going to hide behind their constructed fallacies and allow anyone with an (R) behind their name to fark this country over without a farking peep or, per the usual, attempt to use derp logic to defend the indefensible? I think we know the answer to that one.

Well thanks for clearing that up. I now totally expect Darryl Issa will either be imprisoned and placed on solitary confinement, or flee to somewhere without extradition and seek asylum aaaaaaany day now.
 
2014-01-11 03:57:28 PM
if any of you open source advocates think that Darrell Issa released the source code to use the power of the open source community to improve the web site, I have a stake in Darrell Issa's fire insurance company to sell you.
 
2014-01-11 03:58:22 PM

meyerkev: cameroncrazy1984: This argument is like saying "if you only lock your door, you deserve to be broken into"

It's more like saying "If you don't lock the door, but trust that no one knows where it is, then you deserve to be broken into."

/Security by Obscurity is worse than no security at all.


You say that like that is literally the only security they have.
 
2014-01-11 03:59:35 PM
Okay I have a better analogy: It's like saying "Your home isn't secure if the only thing you're relying on is a secret alarm code. If you get broken into because this idiot broadcasts your secret alarm code, clearly it wasn't secure at all"
 
2014-01-11 04:09:19 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Okay I have a better analogy: It's like saying "Your home isn't secure if the only thing you're relying on is a secret alarm code. If you get broken into because this idiot broadcasts your secret alarm code, clearly it wasn't secure at all"


Except it's more akin to him broadcasting the method by which the system authenticates your secret alarm code (unless they have some really crappy programmers putting alarm codes into the source, and that's a whole other issue).  Don't get me wrong; like above, I don't think the idiot is trying to improve the system.
 
2014-01-11 04:14:47 PM

Wyalt Derp: Are the people calling Issa a traitor the same people who called Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden heroes?


Well, I'm not calling him a traitor--I was considering posting 'WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU DO THAT?!'--but yeah, I'm on that boat. Manning and Snowden released information showing we were doing shiat that was morally questionable. This guy is just randomly throwing shiat out that will have no purpose beyond getting the website crashed. It's not revealing anything, it's not protesting anything, it's just throwing out crap that'll crash part of a bureaucracy.

/Nuance: An important part of every American's worldview.
 
2014-01-11 04:15:11 PM

MmmmBacon: There may be HIPAA considerations that prevent the use of Open Source code. By law the personal information of people who use the ACA website must be protected, and letting anyone have access to the code for that site - which could place user's personal information at risk - is not acceptable.


There is no HIPAA problems because the only health question is 'do you smoke.' No pre existing conditions means no questions need be asked.
 
2014-01-11 04:21:35 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Okay I have a better analogy: It's like saying "Your home isn't secure if the only thing you're relying on is a secret alarm code. If you get broken into because this idiot broadcasts your secret alarm code, clearly it wasn't secure at all"


More like:

"Your bank vault is secure only as long as no one knows what company made your vaults.  If the vault company did it right, they still need your keysto get into your vault (or really serious lock-breaking tools)".  And if knowing that Vaults-R-Us made your vault (or even what model your vault is) means that they can break into your vault, Vault-R-Us has bigger issues.

I shouldn't be able to break into your car just because I know what car you drive.  I should still have to figure out how to break the locks.  Heck, if the lock is designed properly, I can hand you blueprints of the locks (but not the exact pattern of the keys) and you still shouldn't be able to break into the lock.

He didn't leak the keys (He didn't right?  Like he's not that stupid, right).  He leaked the code.   Look, if they did it right (and from everything else coming out of this, I'm guessing they didn't), they used standard, possibly open-source (or originally forked from open-source) libraries.  And the reason WHY they're (in theory) secure is that we've had tens of thousands of eyes looking over them and using them for the last few decades.  We HAVE the codes already, and we know (to the extent that anything is ever known secure) that they're secure.
 
2014-01-11 04:32:58 PM
Darrell Issa needs to be arrested and shot.  NO "ifs", "ands" or "buts" about it.  He has has deliberately put the private information of Americans at risk, and he sees nothing wrong with his blatant security violations as long as it advances his agenda.

Someone shoot him.  Please.  Or at the very least toss his ass in jail.
 
2014-01-11 04:40:45 PM

meyerkev: cameroncrazy1984: Okay I have a better analogy: It's like saying "Your home isn't secure if the only thing you're relying on is a secret alarm code. If you get broken into because this idiot broadcasts your secret alarm code, clearly it wasn't secure at all"

More like:

"Your bank vault is secure only as long as no one knows what company made your vaults.  If the vault company did it right, they still need your keysto get into your vault (or really serious lock-breaking tools)".  And if knowing that Vaults-R-Us made your vault (or even what model your vault is) means that they can break into your vault, Vault-R-Us has bigger issues.

I shouldn't be able to break into your car just because I know what car you drive.  I should still have to figure out how to break the locks.  Heck, if the lock is designed properly, I can hand you blueprints of the locks (but not the exact pattern of the keys) and you still shouldn't be able to break into the lock.

He didn't leak the keys (He didn't right?  Like he's not that stupid, right).  He leaked the code.   Look, if they did it right (and from everything else coming out of this, I'm guessing they didn't), they used standard, possibly open-source (or originally forked from open-source) libraries.  And the reason WHY they're (in theory) secure is that we've had tens of thousands of eyes looking over them and using them for the last few decades.  We HAVE the codes already, and we know (to the extent that anything is ever known secure) that they're secure.


You clearly don't understand how hackers really work.  They, given your analogy, don't figure out how to crack the safe themselves, they find people in Valuts R Us or your company, fool or lure them into comprimising some aspect of security and then gather enough information to get into the vault.  Every piece of information you give a hacker, who is less like a genius than a dumpster diver crossed with a con man, brings the threat level up.

This was criminally stupid.
 
2014-01-11 04:47:13 PM
Leave Issa alone.

He wants code to be free. Everyone should be able to set up their own insurance exchange without having to pay for it.
 
2014-01-11 05:08:56 PM

toomuchwhargarbl: Bender The Offender:
All three are traitors. Are the same partisan assholes going to hide behind their constructed fallacies and allow anyone with an (R) behind their name to fark this country over without a farking peep or, per the usual, attempt to use derp logic to defend the indefensible? I think we know the answer to that one.

Well thanks for clearing that up. I now totally expect Darryl Issa will either be imprisoned and placed on solitary confinement, or flee to somewhere without extradition and seek asylum aaaaaaany day now.


Living up to you name, because the only person you've made any sense to is yourself. What kind of farking retard actually expects any politician in this country to suffer the same consequences as the "little" people would suffer for the exact same crimes? Oh wait, you've answered that question for us. My view on things, surprisingly enough, have no legal impact or bearing on anything beyond the discussion at hand. If I could force that twat to actually answer for releasing classified information, compromising allies and critical assets (as he did with the whole Lebanon affair), and abusing his position like any political whore, I would, believe me. Wake me up when I have any judicial powers, until then, pull your head out of your ass and live in reality were internet posters do not actually operate under some delusion that they have any influence on federal ethics or policies.
 
2014-01-11 05:33:27 PM
Bender The Offender:
Living up to you name, because the only person you've made any sense to is yourself. What kind of farking retard actually expects any politician in this country to suffer the same consequences as the "little" people would suffer for the exact same crimes? Oh wait, you've answered that question for us. My view on things, surprisingly enough, have no legal impact or bearing on anything beyond the discussion at hand. If I could force that twat to actually answer for releasing classified information, compromising allies and critical assets (as he did with the whole Lebanon affair), and abusing his position like any political whore, I would, believe me. Wake me up when I have any judicial powers, until then, pull your head out of your ass and live in reality were internet posters do not actually operate under some delusion that they have any influence on federal ethics or policies.

If it was a democrat, they'd be getting shouted out of office by now. But the important thing is that both sides are the same.

/Carlin was right
//Power does what it wants.
 
2014-01-11 05:34:27 PM
So, he leaked the source code for a website. Exactly what is the issue? I can go to just about every website out there and see the source code in my browser. Is there something I missed where this is suddenly a major national security breach? Oh no they can see the code to our web portal! Now the hackers can see millions of lines of shiatty code that contains flaws because the people setting up the back end were incompetent!

/dnrtfa
//"leaking code to a website" is like leaking draft version of a movie poster.
///it's not like the code contains any kind of usernames or passwords or anything
 
2014-01-11 05:41:45 PM
Also, code for a website controls how it functions, it does nothing for the security of the connection or how data is handled, the back end manages most of that (with the exception of possibly some libs being called).

This is about as much of an issue as Benghazi actually is (that is to say not).

Issa himself may be dumb enough to believe this will somehow torpedo the site, but like any other congresschild, what they actually understand could fill a thimbul.
 
2014-01-11 05:45:58 PM

Kit Fister: So, he leaked the source code for a website. Exactly what is the issue? I can go to just about every website out there and see the source code in my browser. Is there something I missed where this is suddenly a major national security breach? Oh no they can see the code to our web portal! Now the hackers can see millions of lines of shiatty code that contains flaws because the people setting up the back end were incompetent!

/dnrtfa
//"leaking code to a website" is like leaking draft version of a movie poster.
///it's not like the code contains any kind of usernames or passwords or anything


So he probably leaked the back-end server code (And I'm not seeing any actual code in my skimming the article, so correct away).  You wouldn't be seeing it normally.  It's all the code

So for Fark, they probably have a big template for the main page with code that says: "Go to the database and look up the last X headlines and plug them into the individual headline template code.".  You see the end-product HTML/Javascript, but not all the code that looks up the headlines, or ensures that you're logged in.

Mind you, if they did it properly (probably didn't), they could put every single piece of code involved with this out on the interwebs, and they'd still be secure.  If leaking the code is a security hole (vs. HIPPA/privacy violation or just plain dumb), they need to rewrite the code.

/I'm not saying Issa's leaking the code ain't stupid, I'm just saying that if the programmers did it right, it's not a hole.
 
2014-01-11 05:48:33 PM

meyerkev: So he probably leaked the back-end server code (And I'm not seeing any actual code in my skimming the article, so correct away).  You wouldn't be seeing it normally.  It's all the code that writes the code that you actually see.


FTFM

/Or in one mild WTF, the code that wrote the Javascript that wrote the code.
 
2014-01-11 05:58:52 PM

netweavr: He's a whistleblower, just like Snowden


Holy shiat, dude, you need to go up the creek with Issa.
 
2014-01-11 06:01:17 PM
So, where does the line form for the class action lawsuit?
 
2014-01-11 06:20:36 PM
I see a whole lot of ignorant people screaming for his head.  The few computer literate people trying to explain how things actually work are out numbered by the idiots.
 
2014-01-11 06:43:52 PM

OgreMagi: I see a whole lot of ignorant people screaming for his head.  The few computer literate people trying to explain how things actually work are out numbered by the idiots.


Why does one have to be computer literate to understand the concept of operational security?
 
2014-01-11 07:23:14 PM
Whatever crimes Issa committed this time, he is innocent because Benghazi and IRS is much much worse. BENGHAZI!
 
2014-01-11 08:42:27 PM
www.mtholyoke.edu
 
2014-01-11 09:59:06 PM

NewportBarGuy: Why don't we just hand out the nuclear launch codes while we're at it.


Don't effing tempt him. He may just do it to show that Obama is incompetent with the nuclear stockpile.
 
2014-01-11 10:29:12 PM
Republicans utter and complete contempt for the law and national security is so cute. There's no way whatsoever that this could result in their eventual total expulsion from the government and being replaced by adults is there?

Is there?

/I know, silly question.
//Because the brown people or something.
 
2014-01-11 10:30:18 PM

MmmmBacon: MattStafford: What issa did is obviously reprehensible and he should be punished, but question regarding this:

Why not make it open source? There has to be a team or coders out there who would gladly look over the code, point out problems or offer advice. They can check to see if any back doors were being added, check to make sure the security is up to standard, whatever.

Why is the us government concerned about the code being released? Wouldn't it be stronger if it was public and white hats can go over it and point out the problems before taking it live?

There may be HIPAA considerations that prevent the use of Open Source code. By law the personal information of people who use the ACA website must be protected, and letting anyone have access to the code for that site - which could place user's personal information at risk - is not acceptable.


OSS does not work that way.
 
2014-01-11 11:29:02 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: There is something very wrong with Mr. Issa

/and anyone who defends or supports him


Is it actually possible to be too stupid to be a traitor? Treason requires intent, doesn't it?
 
2014-01-11 11:53:29 PM

MattStafford: What issa did is obviously reprehensible and he should be punished, but question regarding this:

Why not make it open source? There has to be a team or coders out there who would gladly look over the code, point out problems or offer advice. They can check to see if any back doors were being added, check to make sure the security is up to standard, whatever.

Why is the us government concerned about the code being released? Wouldn't it be stronger if it was public and white hats can go over it and point out the problems before taking it live?


Is there some way of preventing the black hats from seeing it?
 
2014-01-12 10:16:38 AM

Crapinoleum: MattStafford: What issa did is obviously reprehensible and he should be punished, but question regarding this:

Why not make it open source? There has to be a team or coders out there who would gladly look over the code, point out problems or offer advice. They can check to see if any back doors were being added, check to make sure the security is up to standard, whatever.

Why is the us government concerned about the code being released? Wouldn't it be stronger if it was public and white hats can go over it and point out the problems before taking it live?

Is there some way of preventing the black hats from seeing it?


You could always hide it under some coconuts.
 
2014-01-12 12:08:50 PM
I'm saving this thread next time people biatch it would be more secure if it was open source.
 
2014-01-12 01:02:17 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Okay I have a better analogy: It's like saying "Your home isn't secure if the only thing you're relying on is a secret alarm code. If you get broken into because this idiot broadcasts your secret alarm code, clearly it wasn't secure at all"


Cam, the proper way to secure your home is to patrol your yard with a handgun, you know, in case the governor has spie disguised as trees that leave no footprints in the snow (thanks to super-special shoes).
http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/wben-host-bauerles-behavior-r ai ses-concerns-of-neighbors-police-20140111
/'nother local lib
//you're gonna like the way this reads.
 
2014-01-12 07:16:46 PM

toomuchwhargarbl: OgreMagi: I see a whole lot of ignorant people screaming for his head.  The few computer literate people trying to explain how things actually work are out numbered by the idiots.

Why does one have to be computer literate to understand the concept of operational security?


Here's what a proper bit of security code would look like (not actual instructions!):

1. Obtain username and password from form.
2. Filter for bad characters.
3. MD5 the password.
4. Look for matching username and encrypted password in the database.
5. Decide what to do based on result.

Having the actual code that does this does NOT compromise security.  UNLESS it is badly written code, e.g. step 2 was left out.  Seeing that step 3 was left out would reveal the programmer was an idiot, but doesn't impose and immediate threat.

The computer illiterates seem to think the code would have this line:

if $thepassword == "mysecretword" then hand-over-the-keys-to-the-missiles
 
Displayed 192 of 192 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report