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(Mirror.co.uk)   Here's the story of the man who saved Hitler's life in WWI. And you thought YOU had regrets   (mirror.co.uk) divider line 115
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2014-01-10 09:09:43 PM  
i277.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-10 09:50:53 PM  
I wish I could sit this guy down and explain to him that he has  no reason at all to regret what he did. He didn't 'spare Hitler'; he refused to fire on a fleeing stranger. What Hitler did afterwards is his own damn fault and no one else's, and this man has both courage and compassion. There is never a reason to regret an honorable action.
 
2014-01-10 11:56:48 PM  
"But if I'd only known who he would turn out to be... I'd give 10 years now to have five minutes of clairvoyance then."

Everybody kills Hitler on their first trip.
 
2014-01-11 12:15:49 AM  
For want of a nail...
 
2014-01-11 12:19:44 AM  
mooselicker.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-11 12:19:53 AM  

fusillade762: "But if I'd only known who he would turn out to be... I'd give 10 years now to have five minutes of clairvoyance then."

Everybody kills Hitler on their first trip.


The implications of his statement are pretty chilling. He wishes he had murdered a wounded soldier in cold blood.
 
2014-01-11 12:20:04 AM  
Yeah, I dunno....Hitler turned out to be a pretty good enemy, in terms of fighting the war. Suppose someone SANE had been at the helm of Nazi Germany? No stop-order at Dunkirk would have made all the difference between winning and losing for the Allies.
 
2014-01-11 12:23:17 AM  
Heard to say "Oops, my bad"
 
2014-01-11 12:23:39 AM  
s2.quickmeme.com
 
2014-01-11 12:24:12 AM  
Hitler was a nobody back then, and this guy wasn't psychic so no harm done on his part.
 
2014-01-11 12:24:18 AM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: fusillade762: "But if I'd only known who he would turn out to be... I'd give 10 years now to have five minutes of clairvoyance then."

Everybody kills Hitler on their first trip.

The implications of his statement are pretty chilling. He wishes he had murdered a wounded soldier in cold blood.


I have on pretty good authority so did many americans after they liberated belsen. no more prisoners. nein.
 
2014-01-11 12:24:18 AM  
We'd still have Obama though...

/jk
 
2014-01-11 12:24:26 AM  
you know who else had regrets...  hint: probably shouldn't have invaded Russia so close to winter.
 
2014-01-11 12:26:37 AM  

SilentStrider: For want of a nail...


knee
arrow
you  know the drill
 
2014-01-11 12:27:01 AM  
and to think how many people I walk past and don't kill, every single day, who might live to go onto become even worse than Hitler.
 
2014-01-11 12:28:28 AM  
i.huffpost.com
 
2014-01-11 12:30:38 AM  
Obviously we should kill everybody we ever meet if given the chance to ensure no future Adolf Hitlers come to pass.

www.empireonline.com
 
2014-01-11 12:33:58 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Yeah, I dunno....Hitler turned out to be a pretty good enemy, in terms of fighting the war. Suppose someone SANE had been at the helm of Nazi Germany? No stop-order at Dunkirk would have made all the difference between winning and losing for the Allies.


Yup. That's why time travelers are not allowed to kill him. Do you know how much work it was to change history so Rommel didn't end up in charge? Or to make sure that Heydrich caught a bomb in Prague?
As horrific as the toll was, it could have been worse. And was, in some possible timelines.
 
2014-01-11 12:34:30 AM  
If this soldier had killed Hitler instead of sparing him, then someone else probably would have risen to power and more or less done the same thing. Maybe someone even more competent. You never know.
 
2014-01-11 12:36:16 AM  

Omahawg:


I thought Shea LeBoof said that, not Hitler.
 
2014-01-11 12:42:49 AM  

mome23: Gyrfalcon: Yeah, I dunno....Hitler turned out to be a pretty good enemy, in terms of fighting the war. Suppose someone SANE had been at the helm of Nazi Germany? No stop-order at Dunkirk would have made all the difference between winning and losing for the Allies.

Yup. That's why time travelers are not allowed to kill him. Do you know how much work it was to change history so Rommel didn't end up in charge? Or to make sure that Heydrich caught a bomb in Prague?
As horrific as the toll was, it could have been worse. And was, in some possible timelines.


exactly! ... and that is just looking from a very small macro standpoint. If the events of WWII had even been slightly altered and even if the Allies finally won the war, this world would be very different today because it would've thrown the entire dynamics of the ensuing cold war into disarray. Heck for all we know if the cold war had been a different kind, WWIII may have already happened and we all won't even be here today talking about it.
another reason why I don't believe time travel is possible because altering world history is just too damn dangerous and unpredictable that the very laws of nature just won't allow it!!
 
2014-01-11 12:43:07 AM  

Omahawg: I have on pretty good authority so did many americans after they liberated belsen. no more prisoners. nein.


Those would have been killings to avenge something that had already taken place, rather than passing a sentence on actions a person had yet to make.
 
2014-01-11 12:43:44 AM  

XMark: If this soldier had killed Hitler instead of sparing him, then someone else probably would have risen to power and more or less done the same thing. Maybe someone even more competent. You never know.


This. Hitler wasn't the only person who was a German nationalist after World War I and had hatred towards the Jews
 
2014-01-11 12:44:13 AM  

PsiChick: I wish I could sit this guy down and explain to him that he has  no reason at all to regret what he did. He didn't 'spare Hitler'; he refused to fire on a fleeing stranger. What Hitler did afterwards is his own damn fault and no one else's, and this man has both courage and compassion. There is never a reason to regret an honorable action.


For once, I agree with PsiChick.

Acting with honor is never cause for regret.
 
2014-01-11 12:44:32 AM  
Sounds sketchy, but I suppose it could have been the right guy. Probably just a story ol' Adolph concocted to grease Chamberlain.
 
2014-01-11 12:44:54 AM  
i2.mirror.co.uk

This looks Photoshopped. lol
 
2014-01-11 12:45:34 AM  
Dubious story is dubious.
 
2014-01-11 12:50:40 AM  
But then there'd be no "The Producers".
 
2014-01-11 12:50:45 AM  
Indiana Jones could have killed him, too.
 
2014-01-11 01:00:02 AM  

PsiChick: I wish I could sit this guy down and explain to him that he has  no reason at all to regret what he did. He didn't 'spare Hitler'; he refused to fire on a fleeing stranger. What Hitler did afterwards is his own damn fault and no one else's, and this man has both courage and compassion. There is never a reason to regret an honorable action.


This
 
2014-01-11 01:00:17 AM  
"Yeah, you betcha I have even more serious regrets....I voted for Barabass to go free."
 
2014-01-11 01:01:15 AM  
stream1.gifsoup.com
 
2014-01-11 01:03:45 AM  
This man seems like the finest form of humanity to me. Rarest of courage and a great sense of honor, I would have been proud to know him.
 
2014-01-11 01:07:07 AM  
Wouldn't have made a difference. If it wasn't him, it would have been someone else, and even without the Nazis, there was still Japan to worry about, who, if you recall, basically Started the war with their invasion of China.
 
2014-01-11 01:08:35 AM  

Ooba Tooba: Sounds sketchy, but I suppose it could have been the right guy. Probably just a story ol' Adolph concocted to grease Chamberlain.




My thoughts exactly. Just a story to try and win some time from Chamberlain to invade Austria.
 
2014-01-11 01:12:12 AM  

PsiChick: I wish I could sit this guy down and explain to him that he has  no reason at all to regret what he did. He didn't 'spare Hitler'; he refused to fire on a fleeing stranger. What Hitler did afterwards is his own damn fault and no one else's, and this man has both courage and compassion. There is never a reason to regret an honorable action.


You can't contact him psychically?

Anyway, as children, this future priest saved Hitler from drowning:

i.dailymail.co.uk
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2082640/How-year-old-Adolf-H it ler-saved-certain-death--drowning-icy-river-rescued.html


joshuapreston.files.wordpress.com

And if Wittgenstein, a Jew, was nicer to little Adolph in the playground and didn't tease him about his paintings, which he and the other boys deemed 'ghey'.

If only...
 
2014-01-11 01:13:04 AM  

vharshyde: Japan to worry about, who, if you recall, basically Started the war


Which one? Japan started a lot of wars.
 
2014-01-11 01:13:59 AM  
I'm not sure if it could have been worse... WWII was very horrific
 
2014-01-11 01:18:18 AM  

DreamSnipers: This man seems like the finest form of humanity to me. Rarest of courage and a great sense of honor, I would have been proud to know him.


You sound aryan.

But in all serious, everything that has needed to be said has been said. This guy acted honorably. If he killed Hitler, congratulations... nothing would have changed other than maybe someone without  syphilis eating their brain causing them to make horrible decisions being in charge of the extermination of the jews. Maybe they even get wiped out entirely. Maybe we lose WW2. Maybe we never enter WW2 when we do and they take out the USSR and then come for us.

And for that price, all we have to pay is one honorable human being executing a wounded human being in cold blood and living with the knowledge they murdered someone in cold blood.

But this isn't a What If scenario. This is how history unfolded. The things that happened had to have happened the way they did, for better or for worse. What is important is we learn from history's mistakes, not ask ourselves "Well what if we did this differently..."

That is not how progress is made. Stuck on what we could have done differently is counterproductive to what decisions we make now in the present.

We've all helped human beings who were horrible in some way or the other, even if we don't know it. If we ever worked retail, we've taken the money from criminals who earned it through harmful actions to other humans and their families. If we ever worked in a restaurant, we've nourished and sustained the bodies of horrible human beings, possibly even murderers and rapists that will never have been caught. If we ever for one instant donated money to a charitable cause, that money could be used to help a human being in need who later grows up to be a serial killer.

But I don't regret my actions, and neither should anyone else. Because it is our individual actions that matter. Not what someone else does or does not do with their life. Hitler could have gone on to be a famous artist, but he did not. He made decisions of his own accord. He lived with them and died because of them.

To expect anyone to regret interacting with him in the past and not killing him outright is lunacy. If I went outside and shot another person in the head and said I prevented World War III since this person would have been the cause of it, I'd have been arrested for murder and seen as a crazy person.

... and if World War III never happened, who could ever prove me wrong?
 
2014-01-11 01:19:38 AM  

Kick The Chair: I'm not sure if it could have been worse... WWII was very horrific


You lack imagination. WWII was rather bad, but on an industrial scale with little pockets of ultimate evil mixed in. It could very easily have been ultimate evil on an industrial scale with little pockets of rather bad.
 
2014-01-11 01:23:33 AM  

mome23: Yup. That's why time travelers are not allowed to kill him. Do you know how much work it was to change history so Rommel didn't end up in charge? Or to make sure that Heydrich caught a bomb in Prague?
As horrific as the toll was, it could have been worse. And was, in some possible timelines.


i41.tinypic.com
"Adolph Heetlah?"

"Yes?..."
 
2014-01-11 01:23:43 AM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: fusillade762: "But if I'd only known who he would turn out to be... I'd give 10 years now to have five minutes of clairvoyance then."

Everybody kills Hitler on their first trip.

The implications of his statement are pretty chilling. He wishes he had murdered a wounded soldier in cold blood.


Some folks need killin'
 
2014-01-11 01:28:07 AM  

Ooba Tooba: Sounds sketchy, but I suppose it could have been the right guy.


It's complete bullshiat
 
2014-01-11 01:30:10 AM  
TFA: In fact, he was a hero - the most highly decorated British private soldier of the First World War

and that's all that really matters, how he conducted himself at the time. Had he been Miss Cleo I might fault him, but he done good by his own conviction.
 
2014-01-11 01:32:37 AM  

fusillade762: "But if I'd only known who he would turn out to be... I'd give 10 years now to have five minutes of clairvoyance then."

Everybody kills Hitler on their first trip.


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2014-01-11 01:33:43 AM  
"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. I have not much hope that Gollum can be cured before he dies, but there is a chance of it. And he is bound up with the fate of the Ring. My heart tells me that he has some part to play yet, for good or ill, before the end; and when that comes, the pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many - yours not least."
 - J.R.R. Tolkien, Fellowship Of the Ring
 
2014-01-11 01:35:06 AM  

MadSkillz: "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. I have not much hope that Gollum can be cured before he dies, but there is a chance of it. And he is bound up with the fate of the Ring. My heart tells me that he has some part to play yet, for good or ill, before the end; and when that comes, the pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many - yours not least."
 - J.R.R. Tolkien, Fellowship Of the Ring Shia LeBeouf


Couldn't resist.
 
2014-01-11 01:36:22 AM  

Shia LeBeouf: MadSkillz: "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. I have not much hope that Gollum can be cured before he dies, but there is a chance of it. And he is bound up with the fate of the Ring. My heart tells me that he has some part to play yet, for good or ill, before the end; and when that comes, the pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many - yours not least."
 - J.R.R. Tolkien, Fellowship Of the Ring Shia LeBeouf

Couldn't resist.

 
2014-01-11 01:39:38 AM  
also, as I'm sure has been pointed out without reading the thread, this is most likely complete, utter bullshiat.
 
2014-01-11 01:42:34 AM  
I didn't kill Hitler either, where's my book deal?
 
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