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(Ars Technica)   The Star Wars Expanded Universe is getting sucked into a black hole   (arstechnica.com) divider line 212
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2014-01-12 01:17:47 AM

Teufelaffe: What is with all the Ysalamiri hate?


Never understood the hate, if the force exists around all life, why not use it... like heat, to hunt. Then why not evolve to eliminate the force(heat) sensitive abilities of your predator?

People are whinny. The Thrawn trilogy fully captured the pace and style of the original trilogy, but a few on this site are just weepy sacks of crap. You would think that their entire family had just been raped.
 
2014-01-12 01:49:16 AM

ZeroCorpse: I've read a lot of the EU, and played most of the game, and I've delved as deep into it as most people can bear... And I'm OK with this. Truly, it was becoming a bloated, shiatty mess.

Eliminate everything after Episode VI and before Episode I, but keep The Clone Wars TV series (not the overblown Genndy T. animated version though), and of course the upcoming series about the period between III and IV.

Just keeping The Clone Wars series as canon means they keep a lot of somewhat-interesting EU stuff. (It canonized the Dathomiri Nightsisters, for example.)

THINGS FROM THE EXPANDED UNIVERSE THAT I WILL NOT MISS
Ysalamiri (Force-canceling tree lizards)
Force-sensitive R5-D4
Talon Karrde
Every planet-killing superweapon since Death Star II (Sun Crusher, Darksaber, etc.)
EVERYTHING that happened in "The Crystal Star"
Joruus C'Boath and Luuke Skywalker
The entire war with the Yuuzhan Vong
Abeloth
The Lost Tribe of the Sith
The Killik Hive
Darth Traya
The entire Dark Empire story
The entire Young Jedi Knights line of books
Everything Karen Traviss ever wrote in the Star Wars EU line.
And really, the last 8 years of EU novels. All of them.

I could go on. There's a lot of awful crap in the EU, and I'm not sad to see it get pitched. I'm also glad to see them drop the canon hierarchy in favor of canon or non-canon.



Surely you can't mean messing with the KOTOR or Pre-KOTOR era?  It's far enough away from the films, it doesn't have a huge impact.  Sorta like Rome to modern world.  It's far enough away to have scant bearing on modern society, but not enough to really affect it drastically.
 
2014-01-12 01:53:11 AM

Teufelaffe: What is with all the Ysalamiri hate?


Ditto.  I kinda like the Ysalamiri.  They were a balancer for those simple peons who couldn't really use the Force and a game-changer for those smart enough to utilize them.  I used them in a fanfic one time, about an ancient Sith relic so imbued with the dark side that when Luke put a Ysalamiri in the same room to try to neutralize the damn thing, the Ysalamiri died.  Yes, I'm that cruel.
 
2014-01-12 03:25:56 AM
as a general sci-fi fan that has never bothered to look into the star wars EU, I am more excited about these new movies than I was about I - III
 
2014-01-12 03:39:49 AM

Confabulat: I am pretty happy with the moves Disney is making so far. They're doing their best to reset time to 1984, when we were just dreaming about a Star Wars VII. The only reason all this "extended universe" stuff exists is because we never got it, so people filled the niche as best they could.

But now Disney is giving us Star Wars VII. So all that crap isn't needed anymore. That's pretty cool to me.


This
 
2014-01-12 03:47:41 AM

Digitalstrange: Jensaarai:

It's not like they're pulling a Trek where they're undoing TV shows/movies. And besides, the whole thing became a giant mess after all the retconning they had to pull to kinda-sorta make it fit with the prequels.

Actually that's what made the Trek method so great. All of the original series happened but the new stuff is an alternate timeline where things are going differently, they aren't undoing anything.


what they did to the enterprise is a travesty.  I understand the alternate timeline, and even needing to update the ships for new audiences, but they hit the enterprise with an ugly stick...
 
2014-01-12 04:13:26 AM

SkorzenyNinja: The Voice of Doom: mikefinch
When they killed chew baca (fark autocorrect I'm not double typing everything on this farking ipad) I was kinda done.

I seem to be the only one who didn't give a fark when that grunting waste of story-telling space got left behind.

I don't think of him that badly. I agree with the rest though; his usefulness was only to support Han. That's it. He barely advanced the novels at all. He basically lived on the Millenium Falcon and existed to serve the Solo family. Now the character arc of Han Solo after Chewie's death was something I enjoyed. The depression, lack of purpose... then he teams up with that crazy gypsy alien Droma dude. Good stuff.


  It wasn't that I was bonkers for the wookie. It was that killing him off was gimmicky and an over the top play to elicit some sort of emotional reaction. It was cliche and an obvious attempt at "let's make this hard hitting and gritty but let's not kill off any real characters.
 
2014-01-12 06:16:09 AM

mikefinch: SkorzenyNinja: The Voice of Doom: mikefinch
When they killed chew baca (fark autocorrect I'm not double typing everything on this farking ipad) I was kinda done.

I seem to be the only one who didn't give a fark when that grunting waste of story-telling space got left behind.

I don't think of him that badly. I agree with the rest though; his usefulness was only to support Han. That's it. He barely advanced the novels at all. He basically lived on the Millenium Falcon and existed to serve the Solo family. Now the character arc of Han Solo after Chewie's death was something I enjoyed. The depression, lack of purpose... then he teams up with that crazy gypsy alien Droma dude. Good stuff.

  It wasn't that I was bonkers for the wookie. It was that killing him off was gimmicky and an over the top play to elicit some sort of emotional reaction. It was cliche and an obvious attempt at "let's make this hard hitting and gritty but let's not kill off any real characters.


To be fair, the various competent authors repeatedly said it was time for Luke to go, but despite disavowing the EU, it's well known Lucas himself kept vetoing that. So we lose the wookiee and better Anakin instead, and everyone else knew Han and Leia were also off limits as a result. Pretty much derailed the EU from there on out, because the danger was removed.
 
2014-01-12 10:44:55 AM
mikefinch
It wasn't that I was bonkers for the wookie. It was that killing him off was gimmicky and an over the top play to elicit some sort of emotional reaction. It was cliche and an obvious attempt at "let's make this hard hitting and gritty but let's not kill off any real characters.


Ah, I can see that.
I was mostly indifferent about him and didn't really understand why people where so upset about it.

I was just a little bit glad he was gone because while I liked the added sound effects in the audiobooks, the Wookie noises got old annoying very quickly because it was always the same couple of noises. That works for lightsabers and stuff, but not if you go full Lassie on the Wookie(s):
*ROARROARR* - "What did you say? Little Han is trapped down ventilator shaft 42/7-XRB with a twisted ankle, he wants us to bring two thermo couplings, reprogram the Falcon to play Tetris, slap Leia on her left butt cheek for him and also get him a double latte with a shot of booze from the Earthbucks at the corner of 37th and Main on the way? Got it!" ).
 
2014-01-12 12:32:52 PM

UNC_Samurai: Kevin J. Anderson did wonderful things with the Dune universe, better than Herbert's son.


I could not disagree more with your assessment, other than the "better" part inasmuch as Brian Herbert deserves the majority of the blame for bringing Anderson in in the first place and gutting what was a good work to make crappy fanfiction sequels and prequels.

But again, I respect your right to your opinion. I just disagree. Very strongly. :p
 
2014-01-12 01:00:50 PM

Evil Mackerel: Zombalupagus: Hollywood loves remakes and reboots.

Reboot the prequels.

That is all.

This time Shia LaBeouf will be Anakin Skywalker.


Just like him, repeating another actor's lines like that. He can't even pick GOOD lines to repeat.
 
2014-01-12 01:00:55 PM

Leishu: But again, I respect your right to your opinion. I just disagree. Very strongly. :p


Hmm. I liked the House books better than anything after God Emperor (but not the sequels by Brian and Anderson; haven't read those). I don't think I finished the Butlerian Jihad because the story arc disturbed me so much, and I remember thinking that if Frank Herbert did a lot of cocaine, Brian must have been on PCP. Are the sequels as violent as he wrote the prequels?

I think I would feel better if I'd heard that Stackpole had taken on the series.
 
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