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(Gawker)   Apparently the economy is now so bad that landing a $25k/year gig at a non-profit requires 8 hours of non-stop interviews after which you are expected to plan and cook a dinner party for senior staff at the director's house   (gawker.com ) divider line
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2014-01-10 03:00:55 PM  
It sounds trite, but remember you are also interviewing the company. I know what my decision would be.
 
2014-01-10 03:15:33 PM  
You got tricked into catering their event.  It's a ballsy con, but it worked.
 
2014-01-10 03:19:22 PM  

James!: You got tricked into catering their event.  It's a ballsy con, but it worked.


Even more ballsy would have been to not reimburse the candidates for the food.  Pfffft, armatures.
 
2014-01-10 03:23:42 PM  

haemaker: James!: You got tricked into catering their event.  It's a ballsy con, but it worked.

Even more ballsy would have been to not reimburse the candidates for the food.  Pfffft, armatures.


They got all that free labor though.
 
2014-01-10 03:29:26 PM  

James!: haemaker: James!: You got tricked into catering their event.  It's a ballsy con, but it worked.

Even more ballsy would have been to not reimburse the candidates for the food.  Pfffft, armatures.

They got all that free labor though.


Yeah, the candidates should bill them...
 
2014-01-10 03:49:00 PM  
The advantage to such a large interview pool is that it would be hard to find the person who poisoned the food of a bunch of rich, vapid twats.
 
2014-01-10 03:57:04 PM  
We have a job open right now that pays significantly more than that.  I wonder what I could get them to do...
 
2014-01-10 04:00:45 PM  
If I was told to do that at a job interview, i'd tell the company to pound sand.
 
2014-01-10 04:03:09 PM  
In regards to the pay, while the salary may be low, it sounds like the job has a lot of perks such as frequent travel that is probably all expenses paid (assuming you see that as a perk). Sounds like a shiatty interview process though.
 
2014-01-10 04:09:55 PM  
I thought the missions of non profits were to prevent people from being exploited, not exploit people.
 
2014-01-10 04:14:49 PM  
I'll make a donation if they promise not to continue to air commercials featuring phalanxes of fly-covered children with cleft palates.  They also manage to air each and every time I sit down to have a snack in front of a television, it's like there is a hidden camera that cues them to the millisecond.
 
2014-01-10 04:20:12 PM  
Set up a fake front of a company, place ad for new employees, ask them as "part of the evaluation process" to punch Justin Bieber in the face and get a photo of it. Disappear and follow the ensuing chaos in the headlines...

Hey, if people are that desperate for jobs, get some fun out of it.
 
2014-01-10 04:21:31 PM  

haemaker: James!: You got tricked into catering their event.  It's a ballsy con, but it worked.

Even more ballsy would have been to not reimburse the candidates for the food.  Pfffft, armatures.


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What an armature might look like.
 
2014-01-10 04:24:06 PM  

gopher321: Set up a fake front of a company, place ad for new employees, ask them as "part of the evaluation process" to punch Justin Bieber in the face and get a photo of it. Disappear and follow the ensuing chaos in the headlines...

Hey, if people are that desperate for jobs, get some fun out of it.


Set up a fake production company, place ad for actresses, casting couch, AIDS, die.
 
2014-01-10 04:25:43 PM  
It's a buyer's market, and employers are making you jump through hoops.

I'd like to know where employers can do this to their potential hires, because we had the damnedest time finding people.

//I blame the proposed compensation being too low to attract good candidates.
 
2014-01-10 04:26:38 PM  
Potential employers: Cocksuckers. Potential employees: idiots.
 
2014-01-10 04:29:22 PM  
I just quit a shiatty job (minimum wage, no lie), and by god it felt good. I might be poor, but I reserve the right to preserve my mental health. It's taken enough abuse over the years.

/It's never the job, it's always the people.
 
2014-01-10 04:29:33 PM  
I'm starting to think that our economy isn't as bad as we think but rather management in many places are run by complete morans.

Maybe we should do some old school decimation to put them in line.
 
2014-01-10 04:32:19 PM  

James!: gopher321: Set up a fake front of a company, place ad for new employees, ask them as "part of the evaluation process" to punch Justin Bieber in the face and get a photo of it. Disappear and follow the ensuing chaos in the headlines...

Hey, if people are that desperate for jobs, get some fun out of it.

Set up a fake production company, place ad for actresses, casting couch, AIDS, die.


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2014-01-10 04:32:42 PM  

edmo: It sounds trite, but remember you are also interviewing the company. I know what my decision would be.


Yeah, that's like complaining that your boy/girl friend is mean to you.
There's an easy way to solve that problem.
 
2014-01-10 04:33:26 PM  
Just order a bunch of pizzas and be done with it. Then leave a flaming bag of poo on the directors porch.
 
2014-01-10 04:33:43 PM  

edmo: It sounds trite, but remember you are also interviewing the company. I know what my decision would be.


This. fark them farkers.
 
2014-01-10 04:34:16 PM  
Read the invite...

Isn't that the plot for "9 1/2 Weeks?"
 
2014-01-10 04:34:17 PM  

James!: haemaker: James!: You got tricked into catering their event.  It's a ballsy con, but it worked.

Even more ballsy would have been to not reimburse the candidates for the food.  Pfffft, armatures.

They got all that free labor though.


"And I swear I never did unspeakable things to your food. Trust me."
 
2014-01-10 04:35:07 PM  
Not a single one said "fark this mess, I'm outta here!"?
 
2014-01-10 04:35:28 PM  
That interview sounds shiatty, but from how the charities rep described the position what they did in the interview would be similar to what they would have to do for the job, so it seems that that stage of the interview reflected their job duties.
 
2014-01-10 04:36:28 PM  

haemaker: James!: haemaker: James!: You got tricked into catering their event.  It's a ballsy con, but it worked.

Even more ballsy would have been to not reimburse the candidates for the food.  Pfffft, armatures.

They got all that free labor though.

Yeah, the candidates should bill them...


That, indeed, would show good business sense.
 
2014-01-10 04:36:54 PM  
I thought the 8 hour interview I had for my last job was bad.  Though half of it was telling us how awesome the company was to work for (eh, not really), and the other half was talking to people about what you have to offer them.
 
2014-01-10 04:37:22 PM  
God, I hate this sort of ridiculous shiat. Is there some sort of anti-charity I can donate money to out of spite? Maybe I can buy products from some corporation whose industrial waste contributed to birth defects...
 
2014-01-10 04:37:39 PM  
Hipster internships? Apparently, It's more likely than you think.
 
2014-01-10 04:37:50 PM  
www.zerohedge.com
 
2014-01-10 04:37:58 PM  

Begoggle: Yeah, that's like complaining that your boy/girl friend is mean to you.
There's an easy way to solve that problem.


2.bp.blogspot.com

www.kiss925.com

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2014-01-10 04:38:20 PM  
Reminds me of this.
 
2014-01-10 04:38:21 PM  
Remember, this will only work if the proposed salary is low enough.  People expecting higher levels of income already have a higher degree of self-worth.
 
2014-01-10 04:38:47 PM  

James!: You got tricked into catering their event.  It's a ballsy con, but it worked.


Many non-profits are ballsy-cons.  Big bouncing ones with seafood cocktails.  Crabs.
 
2014-01-10 04:38:52 PM  

gopher321: Set up a fake front of a company, place ad for new employees, ask them as "part of the evaluation process" to punch Justin Bieber in the face and get a photo of it. Disappear and follow the ensuing chaos in the headlines...

Hey, if people are that desperate for jobs, get some fun out of it.


dilbert.com
 
2014-01-10 04:39:49 PM  

James!: Set up a fake production company, place ad for actresses, casting couch, AIDS, die.


How about if we smoke crack, burn our house down, and catch AIDS?

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2014-01-10 04:39:54 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: The advantage to such a large interview pool is that it would be hard to find the person who poisoned the food of a bunch of rich, vapid twats.


Thats what I was thinking...

"Hey here is a list of things we're allergic to, dinner starts at 7!"

Someone would get peanut-encrusted shellfish stuffed with tree nuts before I would cook an actual meal for an interview.
 
2014-01-10 04:40:32 PM  

JesusJuice: God, I hate this sort of ridiculous shiat. Is there some sort of anti-charity I can donate money to out of spite? Maybe I can buy products from some corporation whose industrial waste contributed to birth defects...


static.guim.co.uk
 
2014-01-10 04:40:35 PM  
For me, the idea of cooking for a party (I assume between 12-20 people) in someone else's kitchen sounds like a hoot.   And I do this with my friends at least once a year (last year it was duck, but more people showed up than expected!).

But I'm not most people.

/Did not RTFA
 
2014-01-10 04:40:48 PM  
Nobody gets a job at a nonprofit because its easy or pays well.

Our interns go through a not that different process because its a long hours industry not for the uninitiated.
 
2014-01-10 04:41:11 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: I thought the 8 hour interview I had for my last job was bad.  Though half of it was telling us how awesome the company was to work for (eh, not really), and the other half was talking to people about what you have to offer them.


I think 3 hours was the longest I ever had. But most of that consisted of me talking to somebody for 10-15 mins, sitting around for 20 mins, repeat.
 
2014-01-10 04:44:04 PM  
hash lasagna, anyone?
 
2014-01-10 04:44:35 PM  
Unless you're interviewing for upper C-level management, an all day interview is ridiculous. If a company isn't able to make a decision on a candidate after an hour or two of interviews, there is something very wrong with their hiring practices or recruiters.

Totally understand candidates were there voluntarily, but I can empathize with them 100%. I remember exactly what I was like being desperate for a job and finally getting an interview from a desired company. I would've done the same thing in in a similar situation. Giving them the canned rejection is some real BS after going through all of that.
 
2014-01-10 04:46:57 PM  
That's funny, because we're busier than ever, down 2 people in our department and can't find anyone to take the job.
 
2014-01-10 04:46:58 PM  

ongbok: That interview sounds shiatty, but from how the charities rep described the position what they did in the interview would be similar to what they would have to do for the job, so it seems that that stage of the interview reflected their job duties.


Sounds more to me like a way to throw a raging party for the execs and pay for it all out of charity's funds.
 
2014-01-10 04:47:21 PM  
For the job candidates, the surprise of being told to cook a huge meal is "one of the most fun things they enjoy about the interview process," according to OS PR director Sabrina Zimring. "It's really fun."

Spoken like a true PR person.
 
2014-01-10 04:47:34 PM  
Non-profits, especially ones that compensate for crappy pay with decent benefits, or at least cool opportunities, can get away with a lot.  When my wife and I moved down here to Maryland, I couldn't find a job as a bush pilot (who would have thought that skill was only valuable in Alaska), so I started volunteering with the USO.  I landed a paying gig with them finally, but it was tough to get.  Even though I had a couple hundred hours of volunteer time, and my references were two directors of the local branch, I had to do 3 interviews and a pretty thorough background check.

While the pay is crap (24k), I get 3 weeks paid vacation, 11 paid holidays, and 7 sick/personal days a year, along with several chances to go overseas as part of celebrity trips.  I'm also helping out people who are what I used to be.  It's a good gig, which makes it worth it.  I love working for the USO, but I'm really glad that my wife has a good paying job.
 
2014-01-10 04:47:53 PM  

Dante87336: I'm starting to think that our economy isn't as bad as we think but rather management in many places are run by complete morans.


I think that the problem really boils down to companies not wanting to really make an investment in employees.  In my industry, anyway, as well as many others, companies hire contractors.  And saying the you have a "contract", as a contractor, doesn't really mean anything at all.  A contract, by definition is supposed to be a mutual agreement between two parties.  In today's world, the contract is, "We hire you.  We pay you a percentage of what the client pays us.  The contract is between us and the client.  You can be terminated for any reason at all at any time.  Take it or leave it."  In other words, there is no protection for the employee.  And the employee is not really a contractor.  The employee is hired by the holder of the contract, and therefore has no protection whatsoever.

This is actually a really huge problem.  And it's part of the reason the job market and the economy have been in the shiatter for so long.  Until companies start hiring people, and actually taking care of them, people are not going to care so much about their jobs.  Which is the other part of the problem.
 
2014-01-10 04:48:37 PM  

spman: In regards to the pay, while the salary may be low, it sounds like the job has a lot of perks such as frequent travel that is probably all expenses paid (assuming you see that as a perk). Sounds like a shiatty interview process though.


Frequent travel to malarial third-world holes, where they do their work.  Which would still have been pretty tempting to me ten years younger than now.  However, a non-profit willing to do this kind of Lord of the Flies interview process seems likely to be one that will also screw you left, right, and sideways on your travel expense reports and the like.  "Taxi?  You could have walked from the airport!" Just a hunch.
 
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