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(The New York Times)   Target: Did we say 70 million victims? We meant 110 million   (nytimes.com) divider line 20
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2014-01-10 03:27:54 PM  
4 votes:
The company now says that other kinds of information were taken, including mailing and email addresses, phone numbers and names.

Someone got into the loyalty program.  My email address isn't on my Amex stripe.
2014-01-10 03:26:08 PM  
3 votes:
Ok this is getting silly. there are only 300 million people in the USA. That includes infants and people who don't even know what Target is. Are you saying 1 in 3 Americans visited Target during this short time period?
2014-01-10 03:29:48 PM  
2 votes:

Walker: Ok this is getting silly. there are only 300 million people in the USA. That includes infants and people who don't even know what Target is. Are you saying 1 in 3 Americans visited Target during this short time period?


I'm having a hard time believing that as well. It's sounding like the breach encompasses a period of time much longer than that two week window initially reported.
2014-01-10 03:27:28 PM  
2 votes:
I have a hard time believing that 1 in every 3 people in the country shopped at target...   These numbers must be the result of people using multiple cards.
2014-01-10 03:25:29 PM  
2 votes:
Wow. I wish it had been Wall Mart. I never shop there.
2014-01-10 03:22:23 PM  
2 votes:
At some point, it will be ALL the credit card numbers.

ALL the credit card numbers are stolen.
2014-01-10 02:47:05 PM  
2 votes:
Okay okay okay. We really meant to say, "anyone that has ever shopped at Target in the past five years with a credit or debit card."
2014-01-11 03:36:33 AM  
1 votes:
Are these jagoffs ever going to come out and admit that their database was compromised and that data obtained through third-party data collection was part of it?

Seriously...I doubt that 70 Million+ people have target cards that would warrant them having address info...
You don't get address info from picking up a CC# from a POS machine.
These guys are farking shady. (Target...not just the thieves.)
2014-01-10 05:05:31 PM  
1 votes:

ChubbyTiger: acohn: brantgoose: I think I will get another credit card and use it only for online purchases and pre-payments.

Now, with linky: You can get a new CC number for each online purchase.

Did you accidentally the whole thing?


Fark keeps removing the hyperlink.  Anyway, B of A has Shopsafe, a service that lets you generate a virtual CC number linked to your CC account.  You can use it for single online purchases or recurring payments (up to 12).  Citi has the same thing, and both products are from the same vendor: Orbiscom.
2014-01-10 04:21:07 PM  
1 votes:
Don't shop at target, or Walmart, Don't care.
2014-01-10 04:19:59 PM  
1 votes:

acohn: brantgoose: I think I will get another credit card and use it only for online purchases and pre-payments.

You can get a new CC number for every online purchase.


I do exactly that. Citibank's credit card system lets you generate Virtual Account Numbers that are good for a single usage. I particularly like them for the dickweed companies who try to auto-renew stuff without your consent.
2014-01-10 04:01:59 PM  
1 votes:
OK.... You know.... the NSA gotta know who did this... I mean, they are pretty much snooping around in everything at this point...  this had to be like two burglars bumping into each other while trying to steal the same precious jewel...
2014-01-10 03:52:47 PM  
1 votes:

VladTheEmailer: stampylives: vonmatrices: At some point, it will be ALL the credit card numbers.

ALL the credit card numbers are stolen.

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These fail the Luhn check... 0000 0000 0000 0000 however....


If interested:

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2014-01-10 03:50:09 PM  
1 votes:
And meanwhile, I'm still here waiting for the USPS to deliver my replacement card which is about a week overdue. Apparently, travel across the country in the middle of a winter storm is enough to make the USPS lose things for several days.

What pisses me off about Target's deception is that they KNEW this breach happened a while ago, and they sat on that information, choosing to attempt to keep it quiet until after the holiday shopping was done. They were cornered into revealing it when the bulk of the shopping season was over, but even then they downplayed it, lied about the numbers of people affected, and offered a 10% off weekend to try to get people in for those last days of holiday shopping... If they had ANY integrity, they'd have let people know as soon as they'd confirmed it, but they didn't.

So now I'm rubbing two nickels together to pay for gasoline to get to work while I wait for USPS to deliver my new card, and I can only hope Target stores become like ghost towns because of this abuse of customers' trust.
2014-01-10 03:37:46 PM  
1 votes:

yakmans_dad: My wife's card information (obviously) was stolen, but when she asked her credit union about it she said the thieves hadn't used it.

Didn't send her a new card.

/Is that insane?
//or what?


I called the bank I use for my Visa because I felt my card had been compromised.  They said they'd send me a new card.  I called back to find they hadn't cancelled the card.  I asked again, and was told that cancelling the card can take up to 60 days and that if there were any fraudulent transactions, I could just contest them.

They no longer have my business.

Yes, in retrospect I could have reported it stolen, but I went on the misguided assumption that when I asked for it to be cancelled and they said it would be cancelled that it would be, in fact, cancelled.
2014-01-10 03:31:30 PM  
1 votes:

Walker: Ok this is getting silly. there are only 300 million people in the USA. That includes infants and people who don't even know what Target is. Are you saying 1 in 3 Americans visited Target during this short time period?


I think there's a lot of double counting going on.  They're almost certainly assuming each card counts as a separate person and maybe even each transaction is a different person.
2014-01-10 03:31:04 PM  
1 votes:

tricycleracer: The company now says that other kinds of information were taken, including mailing and email addresses, phone numbers and names.

Someone got into the loyalty program.  My email address isn't on my Amex stripe.


It also sounds like Target linked the loyalty and payments systems. If 'twere so, 'twere a grievous fault.
2014-01-10 03:27:39 PM  
1 votes:
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2014-01-10 03:27:16 PM  
1 votes:
Thank god I got a new credit card between now and the last time I shopped at Target.  The old one got lost, so I canceled it.  Look whose carelessness is paying off!
Bf+
2014-01-10 03:25:24 PM  
1 votes:

stampylives: vonmatrices: At some point, it will be ALL the credit card numbers.

ALL the credit card numbers are stolen.

0000 0000 0000 0001
0000 0000 0000 0002
0000 0000 0000 0003
0000 0000 0000 0004
0000 0000 0000 0005
0000 0000 0000 0006


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