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(The New York Times)   Target: Did we say 70 million victims? We meant 110 million   (nytimes.com) divider line 112
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2014-01-10 09:11:40 PM
Target IT used to be very good, but they then outsourced.
 
2014-01-10 09:12:24 PM
I know that everyone thinks Chase is a bunch of assholes (Haven't had any problems *yet*, and having a branch with biking distance of home, walking distance of work, and branches back home is nice to have), but they handled this right.

Learned about the breach from Chase dropping me a "Your card *may* have been compromised.  We are shipping you a new card next week."  Showed up, turned it on, old card automatically turned off, life is good (except for those times when I forget to change saved credit card info, and I get "X cannot process your purchase" emails.).

/And now I get to play credit card roulette with my $500 limit "Building Credit history" card.
 
2014-01-10 09:14:12 PM

desertfool: Target IT used to be very good, but they then outsourced.


Just saying.  There's a reason why Silicon Valley is still booming.

/Or would be, if it wasn't for the wage trap.  Not nearly enough housing => higher rents => higher wages => higher rents => repeat until everyone says "Screw this" and leaves.
 
2014-01-10 09:22:41 PM

meyerkev: desertfool: Target IT used to be very good, but they then outsourced.

Just saying.  There's a reason why Silicon Valley is still booming.

/Or would be, if it wasn't for the wage trap.  Not nearly enough housing => higher rents => higher wages => higher rents => repeat until everyone says "Screw this" and leaves.


though the wage trap is actually kinda nice, because when you say "Screw this" and leave, you'll have been making $125-250K as a reasonably senior employee, and the rest of the country inflated to try and poach the "Screw this" people, while the COL stayed sane.

So if you want to be making $120K/year in Cleveland, go into CS.

/Seriously, I keep wavering between "Seriously, you pay me this much to wear jeans to work?" and "Yeah, and then my code goes on a million computers/goes on 12 computers who each use it to make a couple hundred million dollars, so where's my cut of that?"
 
2014-01-10 09:45:12 PM
Aw come on, the CEO said he's "truly" sorry!  Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot!!  He should let at least half of the 100 million people kick him in the nuts.
 
2014-01-10 10:48:13 PM

meyerkev: meyerkev: desertfool: Target IT used to be very good, but they then outsourced.

Just saying.  There's a reason why Silicon Valley is still booming.

/Or would be, if it wasn't for the wage trap.  Not nearly enough housing => higher rents => higher wages => higher rents => repeat until everyone says "Screw this" and leaves.

though the wage trap is actually kinda nice, because when you say "Screw this" and leave, you'll have been making $125-250K as a reasonably senior employee, and the rest of the country inflated to try and poach the "Screw this" people, while the COL stayed sane.

So if you want to be making $120K/year in Cleveland, go into CS.

/Seriously, I keep wavering between "Seriously, you pay me this much to wear jeans to work?" and "Yeah, and then my code goes on a million computers/goes on 12 computers who each use it to make a couple hundred million dollars, so where's my cut of that?"


I just started a job a few weeks ago as an IT director for a fairly large university at their engineering school, which is comparatively small to the rest of the schools.  I started getting recruiting calls on day two offering either the same or more money in the midwest even though I'm currently on the east coast.  There's apparently a small pool of people who aren't academics but support academics in this country, and the schools all steal from one another.

Seriously, there was a POS community college in Ohio that was offering $160K to be a "director" of a department that only had 10 employees.  Housing prices are a third of what they are here.  I was seriously tempted.
 
2014-01-10 11:14:36 PM

Lsherm: meyerkev: meyerkev: desertfool: Target IT used to be very good, but they then outsourced.

Just saying.  There's a reason why Silicon Valley is still booming.

/Or would be, if it wasn't for the wage trap.  Not nearly enough housing => higher rents => higher wages => higher rents => repeat until everyone says "Screw this" and leaves.

though the wage trap is actually kinda nice, because when you say "Screw this" and leave, you'll have been making $125-250K as a reasonably senior employee, and the rest of the country inflated to try and poach the "Screw this" people, while the COL stayed sane.

So if you want to be making $120K/year in Cleveland, go into CS.

/Seriously, I keep wavering between "Seriously, you pay me this much to wear jeans to work?" and "Yeah, and then my code goes on a million computers/goes on 12 computers who each use it to make a couple hundred million dollars, so where's my cut of that?"

I just started a job a few weeks ago as an IT director for a fairly large university at their engineering school, which is comparatively small to the rest of the schools.  I started getting recruiting calls on day two offering either the same or more money in the midwest even though I'm currently on the east coast.  There's apparently a small pool of people who aren't academics but support academics in this country, and the schools all steal from one another.

Seriously, there was a POS community college in Ohio that was offering $160K to be a "director" of a department that only had 10 employees.  Housing prices are a third of what they are here.  I was seriously tempted.


I am a network engineer in Wisconsin (not Madison or Milwaukee) and I get paid well. Cost of living is low, housing is affordable. Schools are good (have a kid.) Yeah, it isn't the fun of a big city, but we live well and if we want big city amenities we go to Milwaukee/Chicago/Minneapolis.

But it is cold as hell up here.
 
2014-01-11 03:36:33 AM
Are these jagoffs ever going to come out and admit that their database was compromised and that data obtained through third-party data collection was part of it?

Seriously...I doubt that 70 Million+ people have target cards that would warrant them having address info...
You don't get address info from picking up a CC# from a POS machine.
These guys are farking shady. (Target...not just the thieves.)
 
2014-01-11 04:04:45 AM
This type of thing is likely to continue on ever larger scales. It's almost unbelievable, and maybe it is...
propaganda.
Why?
Perhaps the govt has a -new- monetary system worked out, but understands that it will be very unpopular.

Then, stoke fear in the customer base [everyone who uses money] ; when everyone is sufficiently panicked ... roll out the nasty sugar coated bolus.
Open wide for Chunkeee!
 
2014-01-11 05:22:38 AM

ChewbaccaJones: Are these jagoffs ever going to come out and admit that their database was compromised and that data obtained through third-party data collection was part of it?

Seriously...I doubt that 70 Million+ people have target cards that would warrant them having address info...
You don't get address info from picking up a CC# from a POS machine.
These guys are farking shady. (Target...not just the thieves.)


I may be a database noob, but I've been thinking about it since the initial news broke, and that's about all I could come up with as well. I'm actually curious to see if any of it affects me; I bought clothes last March, but if they can pull my address of that one purchase, I'll be impressed, since I never gave it to them.
 
2014-01-11 05:35:49 AM
blog.ivman.com
 
2014-01-11 02:36:47 PM
My wife didn't believe me at first when I said identity thieves bought all of that porn with our credit card. Then this story comes out and now she has too.
 
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