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(WorldNetDaily)   Jerry Brown will defeat Hillary in the primaries   (wnd.com) divider line 45
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2014-01-10 02:44:21 PM
5 votes:
"Don't be surprised if California Gov. Jerry Brown runs for president in 2016," James V. Lacy, author of the newly published "Taxifornia: Liberals' Laboratory to Bankrupt America,"

Interesting title to a book since now California's government is actually solidly in the black for once. It's also the one of the few times we have had a Democrat governor for decades and also the first time we have a Democrat super majority that can pass any budget they want.
2014-01-10 02:52:15 PM
4 votes:
And reality about those "bankruptcy liberals"

California Budget Surges to Record High


The governor's budget proposal for the 2014-15 fiscal year dedicates $11 billion to paying down debts and liabilities, including $6 billion in payments that had been deferred to schools and nearly $4 billion to pay down the so-called economic recovery bonds left over from the administration of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.


Right, it's the "liberals" who bankrupt California.
2014-01-10 03:49:22 PM
3 votes:
Jerry Brown is the only financial conservative out there; he is the only one careful with money.I would love to see him as Pres but he is getting up there in years.
2014-01-10 03:33:42 PM
3 votes:

uutan: Came for the hot Linda R picture, there are better.


userserve-ak.last.fm

I remember being about 11 or 12 and wondering what the hell I was going to do because I was in love with Linda Ronstadt.

/lol
2014-01-10 02:54:54 PM
3 votes:
If Jerry Brown ran I would donate to him, and vote for him. He is about the best, hardest working politician who actually gets things done I have seen in my life time.
2014-01-10 02:52:35 PM
3 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Much as I would LOVE to see President Moonbeam it's just not going to happen.


It's not, but I'm not sad about that. Brown is doing a great job in California, and I want him to stay here.
2014-01-10 02:48:37 PM
3 votes:
2 -reasons why California was broke before (it's not now)

1 - voter initiatives. People could pass spending without needing to come up with ways to come up with the money.
2 - It took a super majority to pass a budget so Republicans would vote NO on any tax increase.
3 - Republican governors who battled with the assembly instead of working with them and just coming up with borrowing schemes to balance the budget for that year.

Number 2 and 3 is now gone with a Democrat super majority and Jerry Brown and for the first time in decades California is on solid footing.
2014-01-10 04:10:23 PM
2 votes:
There is a Brown I'd like to see run in 2016, Sherrod Brown.
2014-01-10 03:13:36 PM
2 votes:
Don't worry libs. A conservatroll will be here any minute to explain why CA is actually at the worst point economically that it's ever been, because reasons.
2014-01-10 02:54:38 PM
2 votes:
retrorebirth.files.wordpress.com
He's no good...
2014-01-10 02:51:25 PM
2 votes:

Corvus: "Don't be surprised if California Gov. Jerry Brown runs for president in 2016," James V. Lacy, author of the newly published "Taxifornia: Liberals' Laboratory to Bankrupt America,"


Which is hilarious, because Anti-Taxifornia was the conservatives' laboratory that actually bankrupted America
2014-01-10 02:39:19 PM
2 votes:
He's doing pretty good as California's governor ... he's actually trying to be a moderate and counter balance the radicals in his party.  I hope he doesn't try this - California doesn't need to put another unknown back into a position that could disrupt the productive balance it finally has managed to obtain.
2014-01-11 01:45:08 AM
1 votes:

Lorelle: The last time people seriously considered Brown to be a presidential contender was back in 1976.


Maybe, nationally. But here in Northern California, there's been a pretty steady conversation about his running for President ever since he started running for Governor. He'd be a good President, but I want him to stay here and continue to be a good Governor.
2014-01-11 12:36:28 AM
1 votes:

The Lone Gunman: spiderpaz: He's doing pretty good as California's governor ... he's actually trying to be a moderate and counter balance the radicals in his party.  I hope he doesn't try this - California doesn't need to put another unknown back into a position that could disrupt the productive balance it finally has managed to obtain.

I loved the last gubernatorial campaign.  You know how Tea Partiers are always on the "things were better 30 years ago" kick?  The Republican candidate made it her prime talking point, to which Jerry Brown said "Guess who was governor 30 years ago.  No really, guess."


I think that was the moment she lost the election.
2014-01-10 09:16:45 PM
1 votes:

spiderpaz: He's doing pretty good as California's governor ... he's actually trying to be a moderate and counter balance the radicals in his party.  I hope he doesn't try this - California doesn't need to put another unknown back into a position that could disrupt the productive balance it finally has managed to obtain.


I loved the last gubernatorial campaign.  You know how Tea Partiers are always on the "things were better 30 years ago" kick?  The Republican candidate made it her prime talking point, to which Jerry Brown said "Guess who was governor 30 years ago.  No really, guess."
2014-01-10 08:54:33 PM
1 votes:

Summoner101: Is there a point where desalination becomes economically feasible for CA? I know they pipe in a lot of water from either upstate or out of state, but they're right next to a friggin' ocean. This seems like a solvable problem with the right infrastructure.


From what I have seen desal plants are not going to be truly viable for a while, too many issues. If the miracle material of graphene ever shapes up that might change quickly but don't bank on that. Another issue is the water is being used heavily inland in the ag sector,so you would have a huge energy sink of desal and then  you have to pump it uphill. the funnest off the wall idea I've heard was trying to pump water into death valley to use that as a natural desal, as well as brine dump, but to say that would produce problems is an understatement. I do remember China investigating a similiar concept last year but haven't heard if they moved forward.
2014-01-10 08:39:26 PM
1 votes:

Madewithrealbitsofpanther: grumpfuff: Don't worry libs. A conservatroll will be here any minute to explain why CA is actually at the worst point economically that it's ever been, because reasons.

Well not yet, but the 3 year drought if it turns to a 4-5 year drought could kill the state and hard. And with the water bond being likely watered down to have any chance of passing in Nov or being punted to 2016 it is not likely to be improved in ay helpful way.


Is there a point where desalination becomes economically feasible for CA? I know they pipe in a lot of water from either upstate or out of state, but they're right next to a friggin' ocean. This seems like a solvable problem with the right infrastructure.
2014-01-10 08:21:41 PM
1 votes:

Tax Boy: Corvus: "Don't be surprised if California Gov. Jerry Brown runs for president in 2016," James V. Lacy, author of the newly published "Taxifornia: Liberals' Laboratory to Bankrupt America,"

Which is hilarious, because Anti-Taxifornia was the conservatives' laboratory that actually bankrupted America


And literally Orange County.
2014-01-10 06:56:07 PM
1 votes:

Rev. Skarekroe: He didn't say we're ELECTING them, he said we're RUNNING them (Dole, McCain, Perot, Bush I, Reagan, and maybe Brown, Clinton, and Biden next time).


In that last 4 presidential elections, only 1 of the 8 Dem/Rep nominees (McCain) was a geezer (and in my adult lifetime, I can't really recall any non-Republican nominees (i.e., nominees other than Dole, Reagan, McCain, and Bush Sr.) who might properly be characterized as geezers.

Geezers are legally allowed to run for president just like anybody else over age 35, but really, not many of them get very far.
2014-01-10 06:16:38 PM
1 votes:

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Can someone explain to me why we insist on running geriatrics for the highest office in the nation?


There's no actual indication that Jerry Brown is actually running for president except the rantings of a crazy Tea Partier.
2014-01-10 05:44:53 PM
1 votes:

meyerkev: By the time you've done the necessary ass-kissing, resume building, and coming in second in the previous primary (R only), you're pretty much at minimum 45-50.


I don't have a problem with 45-60. We're running the demographic that Life Alert markets to.
2014-01-10 05:44:16 PM
1 votes:

Cyberluddite: Monkeyhouse Zendo: Can someone explain to me why we insist on running geriatrics for the highest office in the nation?

Our last three presidents' ages are inauguration were 46 (Clinton), 54 (GeeDubya Bush), and 47 (Obama).  Those are "geriatrics"?  How old are you, 12?


He didn't say we're ELECTING them, he said we're RUNNING them (Dole, McCain, Perot, Bush I, Reagan, and maybe Brown, Clinton, and Biden next time).
2014-01-10 05:42:26 PM
1 votes:

Cyberluddite: Our last three presidents' ages are inauguration were 46 (Clinton), 54 (GeeDubya Bush), and 47 (Obama).  Those are "geriatrics"?  How old are you, 12?


I was referring to Hillary and Brown.
2014-01-10 05:38:16 PM
1 votes:

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Can someone explain to me why we insist on running geriatrics for the highest office in the nation?


Because to become President, you usually have to have been Senator, Governor, Congressman, General preferably of the Armies (LOT of these), etc.  And those have age limits themselves (and require previous ass-kissing and resume building to get them).

By the time you've done the necessary ass-kissing, resume building, and coming in second in the previous primary (R only), you're pretty much at minimum 45-50.
2014-01-10 05:17:05 PM
1 votes:

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Can someone explain to me why we insist on running geriatrics for the highest office in the nation?


Our last three presidents' ages are inauguration were 46 (Clinton), 54 (GeeDubya Bush), and 47 (Obama).  Those are "geriatrics"?  How old are you, 12?
2014-01-10 05:16:33 PM
1 votes:

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Can someone explain to me why we insist on running geriatrics for the highest office in the nation?


They're saner than the crazies and crooks on the other side?

/Seriously, if an independent or third party doesn't make a substantial dent in 2016, I think we can officially declare democracy in the US dead.
2014-01-10 05:03:57 PM
1 votes:
Can someone explain to me why we insist on running geriatrics for the highest office in the nation?
2014-01-10 03:59:48 PM
1 votes:
I campaigned for Jerry Brown back in 1992. In Texas.Yeah, that was pointless. Still like him a lot, but has anyone mentioned his age?
2014-01-10 03:59:39 PM
1 votes:

whidbey: qorkfiend: whidbey: Yep. It's still pretty depressing realizing that Hillary's going to run, but the shiatstorm of derp will at least bring a sense of superiority.

From her perspective, there's really no reason not to run. She's experienced (both in government and at campaigning), well-known, somewhat popular, long list of contacts, lots of favors to call in...

I'm not sure I can get behind her vision, nor am I sure she's a capable leader.

I might go totally rogue if she runs at this point, honestly.


Why? What is so awful about Hillary Clinton that you would essentially abandon the entire Democratic party platform over it?

I'm assuming you're a Democrat precisely because you're unsure.
2014-01-10 03:48:09 PM
1 votes:

otherginger: http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2014/01/09/republicans-sorta-lik e -jerry-browns-budget-sorta/

Kind of fun to peruse the comments.  People who usually talk about "Moonbeam" are now lauding him because he's "so much like a Republican."


Jerry Brown is nothing like a Republican.  He has economic ideas that actually work and doesn't give a flying fark at a rolling doughnut what people do in their bedrooms.
2014-01-10 03:45:03 PM
1 votes:
President Julie Brown?  I suppose she'll get the "downtown" voter demographic.

i.imgur.com

But to get some real credibility, she should pick a running mate who appeals to white suburban voters.
Somebody known for her distinctive looks, who can rock a pair of fashionable glasses.
Maybe she doesn't come across as the smartest person, but she offsets that with her folksy charm.
Somebody who's allegedly *ahem* had relations *cough cough* with an NBA player.
Somebody whose name is instantly recognized in political circles.

I'm talking, of course, about...

i.imgur.com

NO! NO, STOP!! Not her, dammit! KENNEDY!!!

i.imgur.com
2014-01-10 03:41:45 PM
1 votes:

meyerkev: * Long-term, having really high-ish taxes coupled with an even higher cost of living, worthless levels of infrastructure, farking NIMBY's and environmentalists blocking any attempt to fix the infrastructure, some long-term pension issues driving poorer cities into repeated bankruptcy, a giant farking list of semi-useless bureaucracies, and 34% of this country's welfare recipients is a bad idea because the weather is only so nice. And that's only partially balanced out by Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and the ports.
* They're possibly farked in the next recession, because 1%-ers take bigger hits to their income than everyone else (especially since SF seems to be trying to pop Silicon Valley). Mind you, I like progressive taxes, you just have to keep that in mind. I could totally see a scenario where a recession wipes out the budget, they raise taxes (again) to keep up with it, track spending to the "new normal" during the recovery, repeat indefinitely or until Reagan rises from the grave and restores sanity (and at that point, they would truly be insane). But Jerry seems to be trying to actually use Keynesian Economics by hanging on to that surplus, so they've got that going for them.

but right now, they're stable.

You make it sound like Jerry Brown balanced the budget just by raising taxes. That's not even close to what was done.

The taxes he raised were very minimal and he restructured the costs of the budget to put it on solid ground. You seem not to actually know what was done in California.
2014-01-10 03:40:42 PM
1 votes:
I'd be okay with this.

Shame that Freepers live in a world of delusion.
2014-01-10 03:40:35 PM
1 votes:

whidbey: Yep. It's still pretty depressing realizing that Hillary's going to run, but the shiatstorm of derp will at least bring a sense of superiority.


Didn't she say she's not running?  Has something changed or is this just people continuing to assume she's going to run because reasons.
2014-01-10 03:31:51 PM
1 votes:
Jerry Brown is proof that Democrats are elected to fix Republicans messes.
2014-01-10 03:28:16 PM
1 votes:

qorkfiend: Notabunny: fta James V. Lacy, author of the newly published "Taxifornia: Liberals' Laboratory to Bankrupt America,"

A fair and balanced scholar. Jerry Brown is pragmatic and effective, but he doesn't have anywhere near the national recognition Hillary has had for decades.

I don't know what you're talking about. Mr. Lacy seems like a completely unbiased and objective source.


Why'd you leave off, "...told an appreciative audience at a book-signing hosted by Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform..."?

It only adds to his credibility.
2014-01-10 03:12:27 PM
1 votes:

Corvus: And reality about those "bankruptcy liberals"

California Budget Surges to Record High


The governor's budget proposal for the 2014-15 fiscal year dedicates $11 billion to paying down debts and liabilities, including $6 billion in payments that had been deferred to schools and nearly $4 billion to pay down the so-called economic recovery bonds left over from the administration of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.


Right, it's the "liberals" who bankrupt California.


This must be lies.  I've been told liberals never pay down debts.
2014-01-10 03:06:30 PM
1 votes:

whidbey: Yep. It's still pretty depressing realizing that Hillary's going to run, but the shiatstorm of derp will at least bring a sense of superiority.


From her perspective, there's really no reason not to run. She's experienced (both in government and at campaigning), well-known, somewhat popular, long list of contacts, lots of favors to call in...
2014-01-10 03:05:40 PM
1 votes:
I am Governor Jerry Brown
My aura smiles
And never frowns
Soon I will be president...
2014-01-10 03:03:01 PM
1 votes:

Corvus: 2 -reasons why California was broke before (it's not now)

1 - voter initiatives. People could pass spending without needing to come up with ways to come up with the money.
2 - It took a super majority to pass a budget so Republicans would vote NO on any tax increase.
3 - Republican governors who battled with the assembly instead of working with them and just coming up with borrowing schemes to balance the budget for that year.

Number 2 and 3 is now gone with a Democrat super majority and Jerry Brown and for the first time in decades California is on solid footing.


You forgot the real reason, having so much money wrapped up in the housing bubble, and when that crashed so did everything else, harder in parts of California than anywhere else, leaving tax revenue at a major loss. But overcoming number 2 and 3 has been key in turning a surplus this last year.
2014-01-10 02:55:16 PM
1 votes:

qorkfiend: Jerry Brown is currently 75. He would be 78 in 2016, and 86 when he left office if he served two full terms.


yeah, but we could get a return of the "Dos Equis" commercial parody

/I don't always vote Democrat
//but when I do, I vote Brown
///Stay fiscally balanced, my friends
2014-01-10 02:47:51 PM
1 votes:
That would be fun.
2014-01-10 02:43:58 PM
1 votes:
Much as I would LOVE to see President Moonbeam it's just not going to happen.
2014-01-10 02:43:35 PM
1 votes:

spiderpaz: He's doing pretty good as California's governor ... he's actually trying to be a moderate and counter balance the radicals in his party.  I hope he doesn't try this - California doesn't need to put another unknown back into a position that could disrupt the productive balance it finally has managed to obtain.


isn't he also older than Hillary? so the arguments against old people running for President would be a slight against his chances, no?
2014-01-10 02:38:00 PM
1 votes:
fta James V. Lacy, author of the newly published "Taxifornia: Liberals' Laboratory to Bankrupt America,"

A fair and balanced scholar. Jerry Brown is pragmatic and effective, but he doesn't have anywhere near the national recognition Hillary has had for decades.
 
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