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(Some Guy)   Catholic blogger spins the Wheel of Persecution and lands on... KFC, for calling Christmas carols "stupid" in a commercial. Help, help, I'm being repressed   (catholicvote.org ) divider line
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2014-01-10 11:53:51 AM  
"Grandma Got Ran Over by a Reindeer" is a sacred tradition dammit!
 
2014-01-10 11:57:35 AM  
My Priest used to sing "Baby it's cold outside" to us altar boys.
 
2014-01-10 12:09:48 PM  
And that means, among other things, shining light on those who are hostile to the teachings of the Catholic Church.

Christmas carols are among the teachings of the Catholic Church? That's what you're going with?
 
2014-01-10 12:10:03 PM  
Also, we should be cognizant of the fact that Christ brings us together far more greater than any food or material possession ever could, and that we need to not only place him at the center of our lives but that we need to convince others to do so as well.

Hey kids, you want food or Christ?
 www.ynaija.com
 
2014-01-10 12:16:29 PM  
Go ahead and boycott. How else are you going to win this war on christmas carols?
 
2014-01-10 12:24:30 PM  
White people's problems.
 
2014-01-10 12:43:52 PM  

stpauler: Also, we should be cognizant of the fact that Christ brings us together far more greater than any food or material possession ever could, and that we need to not only place him at the center of our lives but that we need to convince others to do so as well.

Hey kids, you want food or Christ?
 [www.ynaija.com image 300x197]


I have no doubt that they would love some hot, delicious KFC. Being fondled by a priest, not so much.
 
2014-01-10 12:53:29 PM  
What type of misanthropic, bitter society does KFC think we live in?  ...asks the bitter misanthrope.
 
2014-01-10 12:54:54 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: What type of misanthropic, bitter society does KFC think we live in?  ...asks the bitter misanthrope.


Leave me the fark out of this.
 
2014-01-10 12:59:06 PM  
Your blog sucks.
 
2014-01-10 12:59:08 PM  
FTFA: I can't believe this went un-reported for so long.

I know!
 
2014-01-10 12:59:36 PM  
Cornell Surrenders!
 
2014-01-10 01:01:48 PM  
Isn't this late to biatch about Christmas carols?
 
2014-01-10 01:03:11 PM  
So, did you catch that?
Christmas carols are "stupid songs."

//bad news dude, many of us think they are.
 
2014-01-10 01:04:07 PM  
OK. I'll post it...

api.ning.com
 
2014-01-10 01:04:13 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Marcus Aurelius: What type of misanthropic, bitter society does KFC think we live in?  ...asks the bitter misanthrope.

Leave me the fark out of this.


Present company is always excepted.
 
2014-01-10 01:04:39 PM  

kronicfeld: And that means, among other things, shining light on those who are hostile to the teachings of the Catholic Church.

Christmas carols are among the teachings of the Catholic Church? That's what you're going with?


And lo, Jesus said unto them, "Santa Claus is coming to town!"
 
2014-01-10 01:04:45 PM  
Steven "Kokx", really?

/not sure if (blog) serious
 
2014-01-10 01:05:19 PM  
If you aren't wassailing, they're pretty stupid.
 
2014-01-10 01:06:23 PM  
Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?
 
2014-01-10 01:08:56 PM  
www.newyorker.com

(the cauldron is filled with KFC gravy)
 
2014-01-10 01:09:13 PM  
I always order the extra christy.
 
2014-01-10 01:10:12 PM  

eddievercetti: Isn't this late to biatch about Christmas carols?


Nope. Early for next Christmas.
 
2014-01-10 01:11:44 PM  
Catholic blogger

encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
gja
2014-01-10 01:12:57 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: OK. I'll post it...

[api.ning.com image 350x355]


www.adherents.com

Not making comment on the repression thing, just pointing out your data is crap.
 
2014-01-10 01:13:06 PM  
honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.
 
2014-01-10 01:15:30 PM  
It must be exhausted, spending your whole life finding one thing after another to be outraged about.
 
2014-01-10 01:16:52 PM  

gja: Not making comment on the repression thing, just pointing out your data is crap.


The original chart the meme is based on made it clear that it's referencing the U.S. population. The data is fine, it's the labeling that's crap.
 
2014-01-10 01:18:18 PM  

gja: Sin_City_Superhero: OK. I'll post it...

[api.ning.com image 350x355]

[www.adherents.com image 480x446]

Not making comment on the repression thing, just pointing out your data is crap.


Yours is the world, which largely focuses on oppression of people by threatening them.  His is where Christians actually cry "how dare you oppress us?!!?!?" all the time.
 
2014-01-10 01:19:01 PM  
Derp Herpington, evangelist and martyr....
 
2014-01-10 01:19:19 PM  
What type of misanthropic, bitter society does KFC think we live in?

America, you farking commie.
 
2014-01-10 01:19:34 PM  

enderthexenocide: honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.


Driving home from work one night, I saw a group leaving the church across the road and wandering through the residential area. Since they were all dressed Christmas-y and carrying open books, I suspect I witnessed caroling. So maybe it does happen from time to time.
 
2014-01-10 01:19:38 PM  

stpauler: Also, we should be cognizant of the fact that Christ brings us together far more greater than any food or material possession ever could, and that we need to not only place him at the center of our lives but that we need to convince others to do so as well.

Hey kids, you want food or Christ?
 [www.ynaija.com image 300x197]


Probably a cure for AIDS.
 
2014-01-10 01:19:38 PM  

gja: Sin_City_Superhero: OK. I'll post it...

[www.adherents.com image 480x446]

Not making comment on the repression thing, just pointing out your data is crap.


Not sure why the religions of the entire world would apply in this case, rather than the religions of the UK, which I think you'll find more closely matches the graphic you're calling "crap"

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-01-10 01:20:38 PM  
Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?

Because we *had* a rather nice, polite society with a strong middle class, civilized public behavior and thought the future was going to be even better. After almost a generation of making war against the moderate Judeo-Christian culture that enabled that nice state of affairs, we're now watching the middle class wither away, factionalism on the rise, predatory societal behavior spreading as we slide downward to a dystopian  Blade Runner future...all because traditional values are too corny for today's hipsters. The legacy of generations of western civilization's improvements to the state of mankind are being pissed away by today's mass media driven corrosive culture. Enjoy your new Dark Ages...
 
2014-01-10 01:20:54 PM  

stpauler: Also, we should be cognizant of the fact that Christ brings us together far more greater than any food or material possession ever could, and that we need to not only place him at the center of our lives but that we need to convince others to do so as well.

Hey kids, you want food or Christ?
 [www.ynaija.com image 300x197]


Finally , a practical us for chicken slurry.
 
2014-01-10 01:22:51 PM  

mark12A: Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?

Because we *had* a rather nice, polite society with a strong middle class, civilized public behavior and thought the future was going to be even better. After almost a generation of making war against the moderate Judeo-Christian culture that enabled that nice state of affairs, we're now watching the middle class wither away, factionalism on the rise, predatory societal behavior spreading as we slide downward to a dystopian  Blade Runner future...all because traditional values are too corny for today's hipsters. The legacy of generations of western civilization's improvements to the state of mankind are being pissed away by today's mass media driven corrosive culture. Enjoy your new Dark Ages...


That's a lot of words to say "We're whiny idiots who can't accept people different than us and need to blame every social problem on them".
 
2014-01-10 01:22:52 PM  

enderthexenocide: honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.


I have.  When I was a kid.  Not since then and I don't think I've seen anyone doing it in many years, but yeah people used to.
 
2014-01-10 01:22:55 PM  

enderthexenocide: honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.


I have.
 
2014-01-10 01:22:58 PM  
The real crime here is that KFC thought people would actually willingly watch a commercial for a full 2 minutes and 30 seconds.
 
2014-01-10 01:23:01 PM  

abhorrent1: Catholic blogger

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 200x217]


In all fairness, the blogger in question appears to be of the strain that Jim Gaffigan calls "Shi'ite Catholic".
 
2014-01-10 01:23:13 PM  

skozlaw: gja: Not making comment on the repression thing, just pointing out your data is crap.

The original chart the meme is based on made it clear that it's referencing the U.S. population. The data is fine, it's the labeling that's crap.


Actuality, scratch that, the original joke doesn't make that clear either. But that's why the numbers are like that, it's the U.S. population, not world.

Which makes sense since it's a joke about how U.S. Christians spend so much time complaining about the most inane crap as if they're so terribly put upon any time anybody dares to not kowtow to them.

Send these jackasses off to Egypt or Sudan for awhile and let's see what they think of real oppression against Christians.
 
2014-01-10 01:23:44 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: What type of misanthropic, bitter society does KFC think we live in?

America, you farking commie.


Nope it's a UK commercial.
 
2014-01-10 01:23:54 PM  

enderthexenocide: honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.


I did it when I was a kid, but we were Methodists at the time.
 
2014-01-10 01:24:30 PM  

mark12A: Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?

Because we *had* a rather nice, polite society with a strong middle class, civilized public behavior and thought the future was going to be even better. After almost a generation of making war against the moderate Judeo-Christian culture that enabled that nice state of affairs, we're now watching the middle class wither away, factionalism on the rise, predatory societal behavior spreading as we slide downward to a dystopian  Blade Runner future...all because traditional values are too corny for today's hipsters. The legacy of generations of western civilization's improvements to the state of mankind are being pissed away by today's mass media driven corrosive culture. Enjoy your new Dark Ages...


Do those moderate Judeo-Christian values include shipping the middle class jobs overseas? You know, since that seems to be the real reason that it's withering away as opposed to just blaming "hipsters".
 
2014-01-10 01:26:04 PM  
I'm only offended by the fact that they pronounced the "h" in "herb".

I know...it's a Brit thang. But this is fried chicken we're talking about.
 
2014-01-10 01:28:42 PM  

mark12A: Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?

Because we *had* a rather nice, polite society with a strong middle class, civilized public behavior and thought the future was going to be even better. After almost a generation of making war against the moderate Judeo-Christian culture that enabled that nice state of affairs, we're now watching the middle class wither away, factionalism on the rise, predatory societal behavior spreading as we slide downward to a dystopian  Blade Runner future...all because traditional values are too corny for today's hipsters. The legacy of generations of western civilization's improvements to the state of mankind are being pissed away by today's mass media driven corrosive culture. Enjoy your new Dark Ages...


Lemme guess - it all started when mandatory teacher-led Christian prayer in public schools was declared unconstitutional?  Because that was the point at which Everything Started To Go Wrong, right?
 
2014-01-10 01:30:31 PM  

mark12A: Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?

Because we *had* a rather nice, polite society with a strong middle class, civilized public behavior and thought the future was going to be even better. After almost a generation of making war against the moderate Judeo-Christian culture that enabled that nice state of affairs, we're now watching the middle class wither away, factionalism on the rise, predatory societal behavior spreading as we slide downward to a dystopian  Blade Runner future...all because traditional values are too corny for today's hipsters. The legacy of generations of western civilization's improvements to the state of mankind are being pissed away by today's mass media driven corrosive culture. Enjoy your new Dark Ages...


Yes, yes, religion was clearly the reason for the abberant few decades of a strong middle class and without "traditional values" (no abortion, racial lynchings, segregation, etc) we will slide into another Dark Age.

Irony. And not the Alanis kind.
 
2014-01-10 01:32:12 PM  

Carolus99: Do those moderate Judeo-Christian values include shipping the middle class jobs overseas? You know, since that seems to be the real reason that it's withering away as opposed to just blaming "hipsters".


While we're drawing mind numbing correlations perhaps I should ask if hipster values fail to support SAE sockets.  You know, since I just checked in my toolbox and can't seem to find my 9/16th's socket anywhere.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-01-10 01:32:32 PM  

mark12A: Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?

Because we *had* a rather nice, polite society with a strong middle class, civilized public behavior and thought the future was going to be even better. After almost a generation of making war against the moderate Judeo-Christian culture that enabled that nice state of affairs, we're now watching the middle class wither away, factionalism on the rise, predatory societal behavior spreading as we slide downward to a dystopian  Blade Runner future...all because traditional values are too corny for today's hipsters. The legacy of generations of western civilization's improvements to the state of mankind are being pissed away by today's mass media driven corrosive culture. Enjoy your new Dark Ages...


So it's all because we didn't persecute the gays huh?
 
gja
2014-01-10 01:32:43 PM  

ikanreed: gja: Sin_City_Superhero: OK. I'll post it...

[api.ning.com image 350x355]

[www.adherents.com image 480x446]

Not making comment on the repression thing, just pointing out your data is crap.

Yours is the world, which largely focuses on oppression of people by threatening them.  His is where Christians actually cry "how dare you oppress us?!!?!?" all the time.


The data I chose doesn't focus on anything related to oppression. That's YOUR take on it. It's just data.

Belias: gja: Sin_City_Superhero: OK. I'll post it...

[www.adherents.com image 480x446]

Not making comment on the repression thing, just pointing out your data is crap.

Not sure why the religions of the entire world would apply in this case, rather than the religions of the UK, which I think you'll find more closely matches the graphic you're calling "crap"

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x300]


The advert was in the UK, but the blogger clearly is not so....whatever. He WAS blabbering on about a UK advert, that I will give you.
 
2014-01-10 01:32:47 PM  

Carolus99: Do those moderate Judeo-Christian values include shipping the middle class jobs overseas? You know, since that seems to be the real reason that it's withering away as opposed to just blaming "hipsters".


Pants full of macaroni!!: Lemme guess - it all started when mandatory teacher-led Christian prayer in public schools was declared unconstitutional? Because that was the point at which Everything Started To Go Wrong, right?


Janusdog: mark12A: Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?

Because we *had* a rather nice, polite society with a strong middle class, civilized public behavior and thought the future was going to be even better. After almost a generation of making war against the moderate Judeo-Christian culture that enabled that nice state of affairs, we're now watching the middle class wither away, factionalism on the rise, predatory societal behavior spreading as we slide downward to a dystopian  Blade Runner future...all because traditional values are too corny for today's hipsters. The legacy of generations of western civilization's improvements to the state of mankind are being pissed away by today's mass media driven corrosive culture. Enjoy your new Dark Ages...

Yes, yes, religion was clearly the reason for the abberant few decades of a strong middle class and without "traditional values" (no abortion, racial lynchings, segregation, etc) we will slide into another Dark Age.

Irony. And not the Alanis kind.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-01-10 01:35:20 PM  
Do those moderate Judeo-Christian values include shipping the middle class jobs overseas? You know, since that seems to be the real reason that it's withering away as opposed to just blaming "hipsters".

Those values do not include shipping jobs overseas. Those values DO include Patriotism, which influenced American business leaders of past generations to care about their country and society and not do things that hurt the country.

But, since the 60's Patriotism is totes uncool, man, which makes it easier to live with yourself when you're an executive making decisions to close down American factories and ship the equipment overseas just so they can get a nice little bump in their stock price.

See how that works?
 
2014-01-10 01:37:15 PM  

farm machine: Carolus99: Do those moderate Judeo-Christian values include shipping the middle class jobs overseas? You know, since that seems to be the real reason that it's withering away as opposed to just blaming "hipsters".

While we're drawing mind numbing correlations perhaps I should ask if hipster values fail to support SAE sockets.  You know, since I just checked in my toolbox and can't seem to find my 9/16th's socket anywhere.


The good news is that it's a self-correcting problem. Once some of the hipsters realize that no other hipsters are practicing Judeo-Christian values, they'll start to do so ironically. This trend will spread until the pews will be packed with Ray-Bans as far as the eye can see.
 
2014-01-10 01:37:22 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: What type of misanthropic, bitter society does KFC think we live in?  ...asks the bitter misanthrope.


KFC Chiefs country?img.fark.net
 
2014-01-10 01:38:24 PM  
Keep
Farking that
Chicken.
 
2014-01-10 01:39:16 PM  

mark12A: Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?

Because we *had* a rather nice, polite society with a strong middle class, civilized public behavior and thought the future was going to be even better. After almost a generation of making war against the moderate Judeo-Christian culture that enabled that nice state of affairs, we're now watching the middle class wither away, factionalism on the rise, predatory societal behavior spreading as we slide downward to a dystopian  Blade Runner future...all because traditional values are too corny for today's hipsters. The legacy of generations of western civilization's improvements to the state of mankind are being pissed away by today's mass media driven corrosive culture. Enjoy your new Dark Ages...


Translation:  White Xtian males are mad because they're no longer openly allowed to dominate and discriminate against everyone else in the name of Jesus
 
2014-01-10 01:39:20 PM  

mark12A: Do those moderate Judeo-Christian values include shipping the middle class jobs overseas? You know, since that seems to be the real reason that it's withering away as opposed to just blaming "hipsters".

Those values do not include shipping jobs overseas. Those values DO include Patriotism, which influenced American business leaders of past generations to care about their country and society and not do things that hurt the country.

But, since the 60's Patriotism is totes uncool, man, which makes it easier to live with yourself when you're an executive making decisions to close down American factories and ship the equipment overseas just so they can get a nice little bump in their stock price.

See how that works?


Are you implying the CEO's of Fortune 500 companies are hipsters? I hope I'm being trolled, because that's a level of stupid I'm having difficulty wrapping my mind around.
 
2014-01-10 01:39:29 PM  
enderthexenocide: honest question: has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house? in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling. i can't believe anyone does this.

Not since those A. M. E. folks caroled over at the Zimmerman's.
 
gja
2014-01-10 01:41:04 PM  

skozlaw: skozlaw: gja: Not making comment on the repression thing, just pointing out your data is crap.

The original chart the meme is based on made it clear that it's referencing the U.S. population. The data is fine, it's the labeling that's crap.

Actuality, scratch that, the original joke doesn't make that clear either. But that's why the numbers are like that, it's the U.S. population, not world.

Which makes sense since it's a joke about how U.S. Christians spend so much time complaining about the most inane crap as if they're so terribly put upon any time anybody dares to not kowtow to them.

Send these jackasses off to Egypt or Sudan for awhile and let's see what they think of real oppression against Christians.


Send them wherever. They are only pretending to be Christian anyway. All they really are is hateful dirtbags.
 
2014-01-10 01:41:59 PM  

peacheslatour: enderthexenocide: honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.

I have.  When I was a kid.  Not since then and I don't think I've seen anyone doing it in many years, but yeah people used to.


I think it's a regional thing...
...and a small town thing
...and a bygone era thing...

\Can remember twice as a kid - never since then.
 
2014-01-10 01:45:02 PM  

Carolus99: mark12A: Do those moderate Judeo-Christian values include shipping the middle class jobs overseas? You know, since that seems to be the real reason that it's withering away as opposed to just blaming "hipsters".

Those values do not include shipping jobs overseas. Those values DO include Patriotism, which influenced American business leaders of past generations to care about their country and society and not do things that hurt the country.

But, since the 60's Patriotism is totes uncool, man, which makes it easier to live with yourself when you're an executive making decisions to close down American factories and ship the equipment overseas just so they can get a nice little bump in their stock price.

See how that works?

Are you implying the CEO's of Fortune 500 companies are hipsters? I hope I'm being trolled, because that's a level of stupid I'm having difficulty wrapping my mind around.


They're far more likely to be white Christian males who were teens during such "enlightened" times.

He's either trolling or an idiot.
 
2014-01-10 01:47:50 PM  
Time was when a man could eat greasy, nausea-inducing fried chicken, artificial mashed potatoes, and this rubbery thing that's supposed to be a biscuit, and feel he was right with the lord.

Those were simpler times.
 
2014-01-10 01:48:17 PM  

mokinokaro: They're far more likely to be white Christian males who were teens during such "enlightened" times.


I too hate honkies and their oppressing ways.
 
2014-01-10 01:48:27 PM  

SirEattonHogg: The real crime here is that KFC thought people would actually willingly watch a commercial for a full 2 minutes and 30 seconds.


This. Are all UK commercials this long? Do they program shows differently?

AteMyBrain: I'm only offended by the fact that they pronounced the "h" in "herb".

I know...it's a Brit thang. But this is fried chicken we're talking about.


Also this - I didn't realize anyone did that. It is strangely off-putting and makes me think of the WKRP sales guy.

/I still use the 'an' in front of 'historic', though, so I guess I've not much room to talk.
//and still pronounce the 'h'
///3
 
2014-01-10 01:51:12 PM  

enderthexenocide: honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.


We did this in 4-H, but only in nursing homes, not random residential areas.
 
2014-01-10 01:52:35 PM  

stpauler: Also, we should be cognizant of the fact that Christ brings us together far more greater than any food or material possession ever could, and that we need to not only place him at the center of our lives but that we need to convince others to do so as well.

Hey kids, you want food or Christ?
 [www.ynaija.com image 300x197]


This is really a great example of how far Christian churches have gone away fro the teachings of Christ.  Christ told us that if our brother needed food or clothing, we should give him what he needs.  Just patting him on the head and saying "I'll pray for you" doesn't meet his need.  But today's so called Christian churches, in an effort to appeal to the masses, instead put together a nice prayer circle to cover this.  That way the ladies can pop into the gigantic, ostentatious church building, have coffee and "fellowship" (gossip time) rattle off some prayers and... voila their duty is done.  Stupid.  Feed the hungry, don't just pray they will get fed.

Sadly, I don't think Jesus would consider the Catholic church to be an example of His teachings.  did Jesus wear fancy robes and wear a bright red hat?  No.  Did Jesus preach from a fancy church building, with gold covered images and expensive outfittings?  No.  So when you ridicule "Christians", remember that not many churches toady are really practicing what Jesus taught.  A move back to the basics of loving one another as He loved us would be a positive development.
 
2014-01-10 01:52:52 PM  

mokinokaro: Carolus99: mark12A: Do those moderate Judeo-Christian values include shipping the middle class jobs overseas? You know, since that seems to be the real reason that it's withering away as opposed to just blaming "hipsters".

Those values do not include shipping jobs overseas. Those values DO include Patriotism, which influenced American business leaders of past generations to care about their country and society and not do things that hurt the country.

But, since the 60's Patriotism is totes uncool, man, which makes it easier to live with yourself when you're an executive making decisions to close down American factories and ship the equipment overseas just so they can get a nice little bump in their stock price.

See how that works?

Are you implying the CEO's of Fortune 500 companies are hipsters? I hope I'm being trolled, because that's a level of stupid I'm having difficulty wrapping my mind around.

They're far more likely to be white Christian males who were teens during such "enlightened" times.

He's either trolling or an idiot.


Fairly consistent right wing troll.
 
2014-01-10 01:56:23 PM  

Russ1642: Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?


Nope it's because they can't come to terms with the fact that they aren't the center of the universe.
 
2014-01-10 01:56:45 PM  

mark12A: But, since the 60's Patriotism is totes uncool, man, which makes it easier to live with yourself when you're an executive making decisions to close down American factories and ship the equipment overseas just so they can get a nice little bump in their stock price.


Appears you've been drinking the same Kool-Aid as the blogger that wrote the article.  Stop looking for hidden meanings and messages in every thing.  Newsflash!!!  More often than not you'll be completely incorrect.

Prior to the 60's wasn't it those very same Patriotic businessmen that enabled things such as the Triangle fire, Pemberton mill collapse, etc.?  Rather then ship jobs overseas they looked to bump up their stock price and profits by ignoring safety in the workplace.  They merely shipped their workers off the work site in body bags because they were good god fearing men and patriots to boot.  Not to worry though, 10 Hail Mary's and an Act of Contrition are all it takes to be absolved of these massacres.
 
2014-01-10 01:56:48 PM  

enderthexenocide: honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.


GWAR goes caroling.
 
2014-01-10 01:58:13 PM  
I'm all for mocking butthurt religous people for their perceived "persecution". Too bad you can't mock other groups for similar bullshiat.
 
2014-01-10 01:59:28 PM  

mark12A: Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?

Because we *had* a rather nice, polite society with a strong middle class, civilized public behavior and thought the future was going to be even better. After almost a generation of making war against the moderate Judeo-Christian culture that enabled that nice state of affairs, we're now watching the middle class wither away, factionalism on the rise, predatory societal behavior spreading as we slide downward to a dystopian  Blade Runner future...all because traditional values are too corny for today's hipsters. The legacy of generations of western civilization's improvements to the state of mankind are being pissed away by today's mass media driven corrosive culture. Enjoy your new Dark Ages...


8/10
I thought the whole "Everything would be alright if we could just go back to 1952" thing was a bit too obvious, but you sure got a lot of bites.
 
2014-01-10 02:01:08 PM  

Russ1642: Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?


They've based their entire lives on their religion. If they have a reason to question the tenets of their faith or if they have to acknowledge that there is a perfectly acceptable way of living that has nothing to do with their religion (as their religion tells them that through this faith is the only way to live) then it puts their entire life into chaos. Their life may be based on something false or flawed. They can't handle it. So they go on the attack. The best defense is a good offense, as some say.
 
2014-01-10 02:02:04 PM  
Is the tag for the submitter?  First off, that wasn't the point of the article at all.  The author, as much as they were overreacting and fueling a false cultural war, was saying that the behaviour of the people in the commercial was a disgusting representation of society that isn't really appropriate for a season meant to be about joy.

Second, there was nothing significant about being oppressed or repressed...  there was never a cry of loss of rights, being controlled, or not being free to practice.  At worst the blog was complaining that a stupid commercial was denigrating what is an important religious holiday for the blogger.

Maybe the subby isn't one of those anti-theists who favors evidence over belief.
 
2014-01-10 02:04:22 PM  
They're far more likely to be white Christian males who were teens during such "enlightened" times.

Correct. And they absorbed that 60's rebellion crap and it influences their culture that is currently saying phuque America, send the jobs overseas, I've got mine and I don't give a damm about my country's future. If it turns into Blade Runner, what the phuque do I care?

You can whine and whine about the assorted injustices (discrimination, lynchings, etc.) in traditional times, and we can go around and around about the specifics, but OVERALL, society steadily improved for all under that moral influence. Blacks did not win their freedom in the Civil War, it was a bunch of Christian white guys that fought and bled to free the slaves. The contributions of black soldiers helped, but didn't matter either way. Civil rights would not have gotten anywhere if not for the moral and active support of American Christian institutions.

So as you enjoy your self righteous rants against Christians, the fact remains that Judeo-Christian values are responsible for the development of human rights and tolerance in American society.

And as we toss those traditional values away, we slide into a sort of modern feudalism, near term much like Blade Runner, long term more like Dune, with the re-emergence of Royal Houses and a peasant class.
 
gja
2014-01-10 02:05:08 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: enderthexenocide: honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.

GWAR goes caroling.


Funny, the first time I saw them was in the movie "Empire Records". I assumed (incorrectly) they were a made-up part just for the movie.
Took a look and found lots about them. Very talented and very funny.
 
2014-01-10 02:06:05 PM  
"The Christian Right is neither."
 
2014-01-10 02:08:37 PM  

farm machine: While we're drawing mind numbing correlations perhaps I should ask if hipster values fail to support SAE sockets. You know, since I just checked in my toolbox and can't seem to find my 9/16th's socket anywhere.


Use a 5/8, and put a piece of paper over the bolt head. Should work if the bolt isn't too tight. Or try a 14mm.
 
2014-01-10 02:08:41 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: Russ1642: Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?

They've based their entire lives on their religion. If they have a reason to question the tenets of their faith or if they have to acknowledge that there is a perfectly acceptable way of living that has nothing to do with their religion (as their religion tells them that through this faith is the only way to live) then it puts their entire life into chaos. Their life may be based on something false or flawed. They can't handle it. So they go on the attack. The best defense is a good offense, as some say.


Uh, the Catholic Church teaches that if you don't question the tenets of your faith you don't legitimately own it.  All Catholics are called to question and challenge.

Also, there's no teaching in the Church that says it's the only way to live.  It does say it's the only church with the fulness of truth, but that's a bit different, and there is goodness and truth possible in all belief systems.  Hell, the Pope said that publicly last year, just to clarify.

But you know, feel free to speak for the internal thought and emotional processes of other people... that's totally valid.
 
2014-01-10 02:08:47 PM  

peacheslatour: enderthexenocide: honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.

I have.  When I was a kid.  Not since then and I don't think I've seen anyone doing it in many years, but yeah people used to.


Same here, as a kid (I think with the Boy Scouts)... but, yeah, I've live in a developed neighborhood for 10+ years, don't recall carolers at all in the neighborhood ever.    I think it was something people did back in the days when they didn't have a dozen other things they could do online or watch on TV.  Also people 30 years ago more or less thought "everyone" in their neighborhood would want to hear Christian Christmas carols.... I think people are more private and "P.C." now and don't assume everyone in the neighborhood is Christian (and thusly would want to have 10 people at their door singing an off-key version of "Joy to the World").
 
2014-01-10 02:08:48 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: enderthexenocide: honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.

GWAR goes caroling.


GWAR rules so much.
 
2014-01-10 02:09:14 PM  

lordjupiter: mark12A: Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?

Because we *had* a rather nice, polite society with a strong middle class, civilized public behavior and thought the future was going to be even better. After almost a generation of making war against the moderate Judeo-Christian culture that enabled that nice state of affairs, we're now watching the middle class wither away, factionalism on the rise, predatory societal behavior spreading as we slide downward to a dystopian  Blade Runner future...all because traditional values are too corny for today's hipsters. The legacy of generations of western civilization's improvements to the state of mankind are being pissed away by today's mass media driven corrosive culture. Enjoy your new Dark Ages...

Translation:  White Xtian males are mad because they're no longer openly allowed to dominate and discriminate against everyone else in the name of Jesus


Because it is impossible to be a decent, well-adjusted member of society without adhering to and proselytizing Judeo-Christian teachings.
 
gja
2014-01-10 02:10:39 PM  

The hopeless imp: "The Christian Right is neither."


www.cafleurebon.com

"Discuss....."
 
2014-01-10 02:11:46 PM  

mark12A: They're far more likely to be white Christian males who were teens during such "enlightened" times.

Correct. And they absorbed that 60's rebellion crap and it influences their culture that is currently saying phuque America, send the jobs overseas, I've got mine and I don't give a damm about my country's future. If it turns into Blade Runner, what the phuque do I care?

You can whine and whine about the assorted injustices (discrimination, lynchings, etc.) in traditional times, and we can go around and around about the specifics, but OVERALL, society steadily improved for all under that moral influence. Blacks did not win their freedom in the Civil War, it was a bunch of Christian white guys that fought and bled to free the slaves. The contributions of black soldiers helped, but didn't matter either way. Civil rights would not have gotten anywhere if not for the moral and active support of American Christian institutions.

So as you enjoy your self righteous rants against Christians, the fact remains that Judeo-Christian values are responsible for the development of human rights and tolerance in American society.

And as we toss those traditional values away, we slide into a sort of modern feudalism, near term much like Blade Runner, long term more like Dune, with the re-emergence of Royal Houses and a peasant class.


Oh holy shiat. Even trolling, saying that white Christian people are responsible for giving civil rights to black people is just over the top farktarded.
 
2014-01-10 02:11:52 PM  

Belias: gja: Sin_City_Superhero: OK. I'll post it...

[www.adherents.com image 480x446]

Not making comment on the repression thing, just pointing out your data is crap.

Not sure why the religions of the entire world would apply in this case, rather than the religions of the UK, which I think you'll find more closely matches the graphic you're calling "crap"

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x300]


Religion is pac man eating pie.
 
2014-01-10 02:13:57 PM  

mark12A: traditional values


"He knew about concerned citizens.  Wherever they were, they all spoke the same private language, where 'traditional values' meant 'hang someone'."  ~ T. Pratchett

/yeah i know, fished in - i'm bored, ok?
 
2014-01-10 02:15:01 PM  
That was hilarious! I wish we had ads like that in the US. Some blogger needs to get the chicken bone out of his ass.
 
2014-01-10 02:15:02 PM  

vudukungfu: White people's problems.


It's good to be white.
 
2014-01-10 02:15:05 PM  

gja: Sin_City_Superhero: OK. I'll post it...

[api.ning.com image 350x355]

[www.adherents.com image 480x446]

Not making comment on the repression thing, just pointing out your data is crap.


Yeah, i doubt 21% of the US is Muslim in faith, which is what his pic was referring to (which even i got)
 
2014-01-10 02:20:06 PM  
Because it is impossible to be a decent, well-adjusted member of society without adhering to and proselytizing Judeo-Christian teachings.

I'm an Atheist, but I still recognize the utility and success of the Judeo-Christian value system. It delivered results, like modern democracy, human rights and the Industrial Revolution. I have a hard time seeing today's Nihilist culture providing the same results. I see governments clogging up and becoming increasingly obstructive and useless, industry innovation drying up and increasingly ham-strung by predatory lawyers, a widening Balkanization of society and an ever spreading dread of the future.
 
2014-01-10 02:21:29 PM  
www.nomad4ever.com
 
gja
2014-01-10 02:22:11 PM  

Smoking GNU: gja: Sin_City_Superhero: OK. I'll post it...

[api.ning.com image 350x355]

[www.adherents.com image 480x446]

Not making comment on the repression thing, just pointing out your data is crap.

Yeah, i doubt 21% of the US is Muslim in faith, which is what his pic was referring to (which even i got)


Worldwide....worldwide.
 
2014-01-10 02:22:25 PM  
In their defense. Most of the Carols I've met during Christmas are vapid airheads
 
2014-01-10 02:22:40 PM  

foxy_canuck: Uh, the Catholic Church teaches that if you don't question the tenets of your faith you don't legitimately own it. All Catholics are called to question and challenge.


Yeah, right. And when you do question the tenants of Catholicism, you are met with "You just have to have faith." That's not a real answer, but it's the best you'll get.
 
2014-01-10 02:23:08 PM  

mark12A: Because it is impossible to be a decent, well-adjusted member of society without adhering to and proselytizing Judeo-Christian teachings.

I'm an Atheist, but I still recognize the utility and success of the Judeo-Christian value system. It delivered results, like modern democracy, human rights and the Industrial Revolution. I have a hard time seeing today's Nihilist culture providing the same results. I see governments clogging up and becoming increasingly obstructive and useless, industry innovation drying up and increasingly ham-strung by predatory lawyers, a widening Balkanization of society and an ever spreading dread of the future.


You just made a common mistake, I made it years ago as well.

Atheist does not mean Nihilist
 
2014-01-10 02:25:27 PM  

gja: Smoking GNU: gja: Sin_City_Superhero: OK. I'll post it...

[api.ning.com image 350x355]

[www.adherents.com image 480x446]

Not making comment on the repression thing, just pointing out your data is crap.

Yeah, i doubt 21% of the US is Muslim in faith, which is what his pic was referring to (which even i got)

Worldwide....worldwide.


SSSs pic, dude. HIS pic. And i meant UK.
 
2014-01-10 02:25:39 PM  

dletter: peacheslatour: enderthexenocide: honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.

I have.  When I was a kid.  Not since then and I don't think I've seen anyone doing it in many years, but yeah people used to.

Same here, as a kid (I think with the Boy Scouts)... but, yeah, I've live in a developed neighborhood for 10+ years, don't recall carolers at all in the neighborhood ever.    I think it was something people did back in the days when they didn't have a dozen other things they could do online or watch on TV.  Also people 30 years ago more or less thought "everyone" in their neighborhood would want to hear Christian Christmas carols.... I think people are more private and "P.C." now and don't assume everyone in the neighborhood is Christian (and thusly would want to have 10 people at their door singing an off-key version of "Joy to the World").


At the time that we did it, we knew everyone in the neighborhood, we used to have 4th of July block parties and everyone not only knew your name, they knew your kids names and your dogs name. I guess it was just a more innocent time.  But it was all young, white families starting out and I'm sure if you got them all together now there would be much more diversity, which I think is progress.
 
2014-01-10 02:25:59 PM  

cwolf20: In their defense. Most of the Carols I've met during Christmas are vapid airheads


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-10 02:26:09 PM  
The wife and I prefer Popeyes anyway.

img.fark.net
 
2014-01-10 02:26:10 PM  

mark12A: Judeo-Christian


You mean "Christian".  Including "Judeo" in your screed is an attempt to look slightly less like a reactionary bigot than you already do, but your beliefs have nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with Judaism in any way and you know absolutely nothing about Judaism.

Just say "Christian"  It's what you mean.  Have the balls to own your beliefs without being wishy washy and having to do your little "inclusive" dance.
 
2014-01-10 02:26:57 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: foxy_canuck: Uh, the Catholic Church teaches that if you don't question the tenets of your faith you don't legitimately own it. All Catholics are called to question and challenge.

Yeah, right. And when you do question the tenants of Catholicism, you are met with "You just have to have faith." That's not a real answer, but it's the best you'll get.


When something good happens:  Praise to the Lord for bringing us that blessing.
When something bad happens: God works in "mysterious" ways.
 
2014-01-10 02:29:00 PM  
This thread is now about GWAR.

Oderus on the Dan Patrick show.
 
2014-01-10 02:29:42 PM  
If only there was another fast food chicken outlet that religious nuts could turn to for intolerance and bigotry.
 
2014-01-10 02:31:27 PM  

dletter: When something good happens: Praise to the Lord for bringing us that blessing.
When something bad happens: God works in "mysterious" ways.


Yeah...I just don't get it. Someone survives a horrific car accident and they praise Jesus for letting them survive, instead of wondering why God let them get in a wreck in the first place.
 
2014-01-10 02:32:50 PM  
Christmas carols are stupid. Every body knows this, including the malevolent Christians who spend the holiday season whining and trying to spoil Christmas for everybody because only they have the true Christmas Spirit of meanness and hatred.

Do you even know what half the lyrics mean?

I've seen whole articles on the word "wassail". They annoy me.

Do you don your gay apparel? No you don't you homophobic twit, because that would be gay.

Do you want figgy pudding? Do you have a recipe for figgy pudding? Yah, boo! Don't give me any figgy pudding. Figgy pudding sucks. I'll take the cash instead, thank you.

What's a Yule log? It sounds Swedish? Yule love our logs, yah. Bork, bork, bork, bork, bork! And now we make the chocolate moose. Be careful it does not bite your sister.

And as if the traditional Christmas carols that don't mean anything any more aren't bad enough, everybody insists on playing the ten worst Christmas carols of the 1940s over and over again until you want to bite some one. It's a good thing I don't drive a car or else I would stomp on the gas pedal every time I hear "Grandma got runover by a reindeer". I'll give granny a taste of my tires if I catch her outside of the mall.

I say we should be allowed to punch the nearest Christian whenever one of these songs plays, especially "Having a Wonderful Christmas Time". That's perhaps the worst of them all. You could be charged with torture by the International Court Of Justice for playing that at Christians, let alone Jihadists.
 
2014-01-10 02:33:20 PM  
Color me shocked that a commercial about foes seeing things from another perspective is completely lost on someone with an agenda.
 
2014-01-10 02:34:42 PM  

enderthexenocide: honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.


I, for one, love Christmas and Christmas Carols.  I realize this isn't cool or hip to admit to the jaded youth of today, but in fact my husband has to limit my Christmas music playing in the house.  I'm not allowed to get the music out until November 15th.

As a kid my family and some other families at church used to go caroling a lot, at group homes or assisted living facilities.  And in high school my friends and I went caroling in the neighborhood just for fun.  But I come from a musically inclined background so it's fun for us.

/sad that Christmas is over
//this blogger has a stick up his ass
 
2014-01-10 02:35:14 PM  
If only there was another fast food chicken outlet that religious nuts could turn to for intolerance and bigotry.


There's a chicken place that won't serve minorities?
 
2014-01-10 02:35:38 PM  

mark12A: Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?

Because we *had* a rather nice, polite society with a strong middle class, civilized public behavior and thought the future was going to be even better. After almost a generation of making war against the moderate Judeo-Christian culture that enabled that nice state of affairs, we're now watching the middle class wither away, factionalism on the rise, predatory societal behavior spreading as we slide downward to a dystopian  Blade Runner future...all because traditional values are too corny for today's hipsters. The legacy of generations of western civilization's improvements to the state of mankind are being pissed away by today's mass media driven corrosive culture. Enjoy your new Dark Ages...


10/10 You have already got several bites.

Bravo!
 
2014-01-10 02:36:21 PM  

gja: The data I chose doesn't focus on anything related to oppression. That's YOUR take on it. It's just data.


Okay, so... you're acknowledging complete irrelevance to the discussion at hand?

Thanks!
 
2014-01-10 02:38:24 PM  

brantgoose: And now we make the chocolate moose. Be careful it does not bite your sister.


Chocolate Moose once bit my sister. Mynd you, Chocolate Moose bites Kan be pretti nasti...

yourdailychocolate.com
 
2014-01-10 02:39:18 PM  
Oh holy shiat. Even trolling, saying that white Christian people are responsible for giving civil rights to black people is just over the top farktarded

All across Eurasia and Asia, in non Judeo-Christian cultures, the dominant cultures had ruthlessly exterminated or chased out minorities. Numerous distinct peoples were completely wiped out in what is now present day eastern Europe and Russia. When that kind of thing was attempted in Judeo-Christian societies like Germany and South Africa, it was opposed and stopped by other Judeo-Christian societies.

You can't name a non Judeo-Christian society that has equal rights for minorities. They're either mono-ethnic or they brutally suppress their minorities. Judeo-Christian societies at least try to fix the problems, and many have succeeded. Because of the tolerance values taught in Judeo-Christian value systems.
 
2014-01-10 02:40:49 PM  

mark12A: Why is it that religious people are so fond of getting pissed off for no reason at all?

Because we *had* a rather nice, polite society with a strong middle class, civilized public behavior and thought the future was going to be even better. After almost a generation of making war against the moderate Judeo-Christian culture that enabled that nice state of affairs, we're now watching the middle class wither away, factionalism on the rise, predatory societal behavior spreading as we slide downward to a dystopian  Blade Runner future...all because traditional values are too corny for today's hipsters. The legacy of generations of western civilization's improvements to the state of mankind are being pissed away by today's mass media driven corrosive culture. Enjoy your new Dark Ages...


Normally I'd say you're gonna get a lot of bites for this, but I'm also hoping people know better by now. So I have to give you a TBA/10 for now.
 
2014-01-10 02:41:56 PM  
"Also, we should be cognizant of the fact that Christ brings us together far more greater than any food or material possession ever could, and that we need to not only place him at the center of our lives but that we need to convince others to do so as well. "

www.sadanduseless.com
 
2014-01-10 02:43:34 PM  
 
2014-01-10 02:44:46 PM  

mark12A: Oh holy shiat. Even trolling, saying that white Christian people are responsible for giving civil rights to black people is just over the top farktarded

All across Eurasia and Asia, in non Judeo-Christian cultures, the dominant cultures had ruthlessly exterminated or chased out minorities. Numerous distinct peoples were completely wiped out in what is now present day eastern Europe and Russia. When that kind of thing was attempted in Judeo-Christian societies like Germany and South Africa, it was opposed and stopped by other Judeo-Christian societies.

You can't name a non Judeo-Christian society that has equal rights for minorities. They're either mono-ethnic or they brutally suppress their minorities. Judeo-Christian societies at least try to fix the problems, and many have succeeded. Because of the tolerance values taught in Judeo-Christian value systems.


I think that the ridiculousness he's referring to is the fact that these minorities wouldn't need white people coming to their aid if other white people weren't oppressing them. When white people enslaved black people, and then other white people freed them, it's hard to give any credit to the white race, since they wouldn't have been needed had they not caused the problem in the first place.
 
2014-01-10 02:45:00 PM  
mark12A:


That you still get bites amazes me, especially with the follow-ups from your Boobies. However, your material is far too obvious, and I think the number of responses says more about the respondees than your actual quality. Nice choice on subject matter.

Overall, could use some improvement, but definitely a solid show. 8/10.
 
2014-01-10 02:45:51 PM  

Carn: This thread is now about GWAR.

Oderus on the Dan Patrick show.



Oderus and Beefcake on the Joan Rivers Show, c. 1989.
 
2014-01-10 02:47:25 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: cwolf20: In their defense. Most of the Carols I've met during Christmas are vapid airheads

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x1275]


One of the exceptions. Though I haven't met her.  Hers was one of the few comedy shows generally too boring for kids that I laughed during each episode of when I was 13 or 14.
 
gja
2014-01-10 02:51:45 PM  

ikanreed: gja: The data I chose doesn't focus on anything related to oppression. That's YOUR take on it. It's just data.

Okay, so... you're acknowledging complete irrelevance to the discussion at hand?

Thanks!


HAHA, no....
You aren't good at following along, are you. Someone supplied a pie chart of religions. The article was unclear on scope as it was written in the USA about an ad in the UK.
The first chart MIGHT be the UK numbers, but scope was never established.
Try to keep up fella
 
2014-01-10 02:51:49 PM  
You mean "Christian".  Including "Judeo" in your screed is an attempt to look slightly less like a reactionary bigot than you already do, but your beliefs have nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with Judaism in any way and you know absolutely nothing about Judaism.

I am referring to the value system based on the Old and New Testaments of the Bible. As in the Ten Commandments, and associated moral codes.

The Ten Commandments are really the distilled experience of early human societies finding out by trial and error which rules worked in running a successful tribe. The "from God" stuff was just marketing. But modern technological man thinks he can flout proven successful moral codes because of dual core processors or something.....
 
2014-01-10 02:54:14 PM  

mark12A: Oh holy shiat. Even trolling, saying that white Christian people are responsible for giving civil rights to black people is just over the top farktarded

All across Eurasia and Asia, in non Judeo-Christian cultures, the dominant cultures had ruthlessly exterminated or chased out minorities. Numerous distinct peoples were completely wiped out in what is now present day eastern Europe and Russia. When that kind of thing was attempted in Judeo-Christian societies like Germany and South Africa, it was opposed and stopped by other Judeo-Christian societies.

You can't name a non Judeo-Christian society that has equal rights for minorities. They're either mono-ethnic or they brutally suppress their minorities. Judeo-Christian societies at least try to fix the problems, and many have succeeded. Because of the tolerance values taught in Judeo-Christian value systems.


No.. Just, no!

I suppose it might be in how one defines "minority".  Is the LGBTG (is that the right alphabet soup, I get confused) community NOT a minority today?  How are they NOT being discriminated against? Or what of the trend where, now that more brown people are coming in and reproducing and making the white folk the 'minority'? Or if we make being gay or believing anything different than YOU ok, then YOU will be the minority.  I think that's what people are truly afraid of here...

The fact is that, in America, the conservatives are so darned AFRAID of anything that is 'other', anything that is different from them, that they are DEMANDING we become - if not mono ethnic  - at least of an identical belief system.  Its the same thing.
 
2014-01-10 02:55:32 PM  
I just watched the whole thing, and clearly it was a blatant attack on Christianity from the get-go.
 
2014-01-10 02:55:51 PM  
I tried reading the article but all I could see was "Waaaaaaaaaa" repeated over and over.
 
2014-01-10 02:56:16 PM  

mark12A: You mean "Christian".  Including "Judeo" in your screed is an attempt to look slightly less like a reactionary bigot than you already do, but your beliefs have nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with Judaism in any way and you know absolutely nothing about Judaism.

I am referring to the value system based on the Old and New Testaments of the Bible. As in the Ten Commandments, and associated moral codes.

The Ten Commandments are really the distilled experience of early human societies finding out by trial and error which rules worked in running a successful tribe. The "from God" stuff was just marketing. But modern technological man thinks he can flout proven successful moral codes because of dual core processors or something.....


See, now you're trailing off into way, way too obvious. Hamurabi and all that. I'll have to retract my previous one, and go with a 7/10 instead.
 
2014-01-10 02:56:38 PM  

mark12A: the Judeo-Christian value system... delivered results, like... the Industrial Revolution.


denver.mylittlefacewhen.com
 
2014-01-10 02:58:59 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Carn: This thread is now about GWAR.

Oderus on the Dan Patrick show.


Oderus and Beefcake on the Joan Rivers Show, c. 1989.


hahahahahahaha
 
gja
2014-01-10 02:59:43 PM  

Rhaab: mark12A: the Judeo-Christian value system... delivered results, like... the Industrial Revolution.

[denver.mylittlefacewhen.com image 640x640]


You aren't allowed to use the term 'spy' anymore. The NSA has it trademarked
 
2014-01-10 02:59:59 PM  

mark12A: I am referring to the value system based on the Old and New Testaments of the Bible


No you're not.  You're referring to your utopian Leave It To Beaver society that never really existed in which blacks knew their place, gay people were invisible, church rules were laws and Jews were (like they are in today's Republican party) begrudgingly tolerated at best.

You long for a "Christian nation" but you don't have the balls to actually say it so you water it down with "Judeo-Christian".  If you're looking at it purely from a religious philosophical perspective as you claim you really should make it a "Judeo-Islamo-Christian" perspective since all three religions spring from the same well.  You won't do that because you're not really THAT inclusive are ya?  Of course not.

This is old nonsense. You're not at all the first person to play this pathetic little linguistic game and I'm certainly not the first Jew to call out such bigotry and insist "Not in MY name, buddy. This is all you and Republican Jesus talking."
 
2014-01-10 03:00:46 PM  

stpauler: Also, we should be cognizant of the fact that Christ brings us together far more greater than any food or material possession ever could, and that we need to not only place him at the center of our lives but that we need to convince others to do so as well.

Hey kids, you want food or Christ?
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Trick question, right?  Because like, Christ is food.  Those kids would happily each take communion like, 30 or 40 times per day.
 
2014-01-10 03:00:48 PM  

mark12A: I am referring to the value system based on the Old and New Testaments of the Bible.

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace.  If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor.  But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town.  When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town.   But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder.  You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

 (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

You sick, sick puppy...
 
2014-01-10 03:04:20 PM  

enderthexenocide: honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.


I come from a large family, all musicians, most of them professional (or professional-calibre) singers.  When we all lived close to one another, we had a tradition on Christmas Eve: gather around the piano around 5 PM, run through some favorite carols, not that we needed to *rehearse* or anything, we'd been doing these charts since we were babies (the good stuff from the 1940 Episcopal Hymnal, none of this modern Rudolph and Pa-rum-pa-pa-pum shiat) then dash off to the local hospital, where we'd sing in the wards for a hour or so.  The pediatric and geriatric wards were always especially grateful.

Then we'd head downtown and hit the bars.  We'd walk in, crack open the Hymnals, and knock out a couple numbers in that solid four-part harmony, and man the drinks would start flowing.  We'd hit every one of them, some of them twice, never once paid for a drink in all those years.

So, yeah, I've done it.  And I've done it *right*.
 
2014-01-10 03:07:35 PM  

grumpfuff: mark12A:


That you still get bites amazes me, especially with the follow-ups from your Boobies. However, your material is far too obvious, and I think the number of responses says more about the respondees than your actual quality. Nice choice on subject matter.

Overall, could use some improvement, but definitely a solid show. 8/10.


Yeah well done Mark. However I think you went too over-the-top with "Thank God the white man saved the minorities from oppression!"

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-01-10 03:08:08 PM  
Most songs are stupid.  Just read the lyrics.

Christmas carols are irritating, SOS, year after year.
 
2014-01-10 03:08:36 PM  

doctor wu: I just watched the whole thing, and clearly it was a blatant attack on Christianity from the get-go.


Seriously, all that good fellowship and forgiveness!  Jesus would be appalled!
 
2014-01-10 03:10:25 PM  
I think child rape is a more relevant issue.
 
2014-01-10 03:13:03 PM  

gja: HAHA, no....
You aren't good at following along, are you. Someone supplied a pie chart of religions. The article was unclear on scope as it was written in the USA about an ad in the UK.
The first chart MIGHT be the UK numbers, but scope was never established.
Try to keep up fella


This doesn't do anything to establish the relevance of your chart.
 
2014-01-10 03:14:49 PM  
Hymnals are also stupid, boring, and poorly written/arranged.

/never sang those damn things willingly even when I was a believer
 
gja
2014-01-10 03:18:09 PM  

ikanreed: gja: HAHA, no....
You aren't good at following along, are you. Someone supplied a pie chart of religions. The article was unclear on scope as it was written in the USA about an ad in the UK.
The first chart MIGHT be the UK numbers, but scope was never established.
Try to keep up fella

This doesn't do anything to establish the relevance of your chart.


It is as relevant as the original posters chart. Just more inclusive and represents the world. SCS never said what his graph represented.
Since I saw it was not really indicative of anything even close to world numbers I presented that data, which is quite well vetted.
His chart, absent of reference point, was misleading.
 
2014-01-10 03:20:38 PM  

grumpfuff: mark12A:


That you still get bites amazes me, especially with the follow-ups from your Boobies. However, your material is far too obvious, and I think the number of responses says more about the respondees than your actual quality. Nice choice on subject matter.

Overall, could use some improvement, but definitely a solid show. 8/10.


I now realize that I've been trolled pretty hard, but in my defense I'll say that I live in a pretty red part of the country where people spout this kind of horse-hockey with utter sincerity.
 
2014-01-10 03:23:59 PM  
"Don we now, our gay apparel..."

Nothing stupid there.  People talk like that all the time.
"Fa la la la ..." etc
 
2014-01-10 03:25:17 PM  

mark12A: Oh holy shiat. Even trolling, saying that white Christian people are responsible for giving civil rights to black people is just over the top farktarded

All across Eurasia and Asia, in non Judeo-Christian cultures, the dominant cultures had ruthlessly exterminated or chased out minorities. Numerous distinct peoples were completely wiped out in what is now present day eastern Europe and Russia. When that kind of thing was attempted in Judeo-Christian societies like Germany and South Africa, it was opposed and stopped by other Judeo-Christian societies.

You can't name a non Judeo-Christian society that has equal rights for minorities. They're either mono-ethnic or they brutally suppress their minorities. Judeo-Christian societies at least try to fix the problems, and many have succeeded. Because of the tolerance values taught in Judeo-Christian value systems.


Shut up, Jesus Christ. None of what you say is accurate. There are so many wrongs here I'm not even going to bother. Pick up a world history book, one not written by the Texas Board of Education.

You're a troll but I know people actually think this kind of bullshiat. And it makes me nauseous.
 
2014-01-10 03:25:33 PM  

enderthexenocide: honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.


I had someone try when I lived in town. As a lapsed Catholic I condemned them to hellfire for supporting a pagan holiday.
 
2014-01-10 03:26:15 PM  

Inflatable Rhetoric: "Don we now, our gay apparel..."


"Now we put on our doomed-to-hell-for-being-queer clothes..." doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
 
2014-01-10 03:30:49 PM  

Carolus99: grumpfuff: mark12A:


That you still get bites amazes me, especially with the follow-ups from your Boobies. However, your material is far too obvious, and I think the number of responses says more about the respondees than your actual quality. Nice choice on subject matter.

Overall, could use some improvement, but definitely a solid show. 8/10.

I now realize that I've been trolled pretty hard, but in my defense I'll say that I live in a pretty red part of the country where people spout this kind of horse-hockey with utter sincerity.


Perhaps, but he's one of the more obvious trolls on Fark. I don't even have to Farky him, that's how much he stands out. But then, I'm also on this site way too much sometimes, so there's that.
 
2014-01-10 03:33:03 PM  
Agent Smiths Laugh: MOST Hymnals are also stupid, boring, and poorly written/arranged.

FTFY

The 1940 Episcopal Hymnal assumed an educated, musically-literate congregation.  It contained works by Holst, Vaughn Williams, Healy Willan, literally dozens of world-class composers.  It was excellent in content, artistry, and an invaluable training tool.  Every bit of it fully harmonized, none of this "just show the melody, not even the accompaniment, leave that for the organist's edition" BS, either.

The current edition is a pale shadow of what it once was, more's the pity.
 
2014-01-10 03:35:14 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Inflatable Rhetoric: "Don we now, our gay apparel..."

"Now we put on our doomed-to-hell-for-being-queer clothes..." doesn't have quite the same ring to it.


I was thinking of something to reply as I scrolled down and then read yours.

L O L

Perfect.
 
2014-01-10 03:35:30 PM  

Inflatable Rhetoric: "Don we now, our gay apparel..."

Nothing stupid there.  People talk like that all the time.
"Fa la la la ..." etc


Also a GWAR connection: "My gay apparel / I pu-ti-ton, pu-ti-ton...."
 
2014-01-10 03:41:12 PM  

Deucednuisance: enderthexenocide: honest question:  has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?  in my entire life i have never seen someone actually go caroling.  i can't believe anyone does this.

I come from a large family, all musicians, most of them professional (or professional-calibre) singers.  When we all lived close to one another, we had a tradition on Christmas Eve: gather around the piano around 5 PM, run through some favorite carols, not that we needed to *rehearse* or anything, we'd been doing these charts since we were babies (the good stuff from the 1940 Episcopal Hymnal, none of this modern Rudolph and Pa-rum-pa-pa-pum shiat) then dash off to the local hospital, where we'd sing in the wards for a hour or so.  The pediatric and geriatric wards were always especially grateful.

Then we'd head downtown and hit the bars.  We'd walk in, crack open the Hymnals, and knock out a couple numbers in that solid four-part harmony, and man the drinks would start flowing.  We'd hit every one of them, some of them twice, never once paid for a drink in all those years.

So, yeah, I've done it.  And I've done it *right*.


Friend of mine went caroling with his daughter this year. Most people pretended to not be home. One gentleman listened to them politely and thanked them for the "lovely singing", then turned to my friend (his neighbor) and semi-whispered, "You know I'm Jewish, right?"

:)
 
2014-01-10 04:32:59 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Inflatable Rhetoric: "Don we now, our gay apparel..."

Nothing stupid there.  People talk like that all the time.
"Fa la la la ..." etc

Also a GWAR connection: "My gay apparel / I pu-ti-ton, pu-ti-ton...."


KING QUEEEEEEN

csb time.  One of my bands put out a song that caught the attention of Ron Goudie who produced Scumdogs.  He invited us to Amsterdam.  We couldn't go due to "real life" (fark that shiat, I would go today for sure) but the upshot is our gushing about Scumdogs got him to listen to the album again with new ears and appreciate it all over again.  Which is nice.

IT'S SO OBSCENE

/csb
 
2014-01-10 05:34:35 PM  
Why are there only Christmas carols? We should go caroling on other holidays too!

MLKjr Day is coming up. Who wants to go knocking on random doors and sing "We Shall Overcome" at whoever opens?
 
2014-01-10 06:00:28 PM  
I'm looking forward to Halloween caroling. In a Strawberry Shortcake costume...Singing Black Sabbath songs...
 
2014-01-10 06:51:26 PM  

zimbach: Why are there only Christmas carols? We should go caroling on other holidays too!

MLKjr Day is coming up. Who wants to go knocking on random doors and sing "We Shall Overcome" at whoever opens?


Or on Arbor Day we can stand there and recite Joyce Klimer's "Trees".  Would "Muskrat Love" work for Groundhog's Day?
 
2014-01-10 07:21:37 PM  
First the Christians claim to be oppressed and now the Catholics? Sheesh.
 
2014-01-10 08:39:02 PM  

The hopeless imp: "The Christian Right is neither."


Pssst. Catholics are part of the Christian Left. Just so you can keep up on your derping.
 
2014-01-10 08:44:29 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: The hopeless imp: "The Christian Right is neither."

Pssst. Catholics are part of the Christian Left. Just so you can keep up on your derping.


Religious Left. Fixed it for myself.
 
2014-01-10 09:40:49 PM  
pants wetting whiner
 
2014-01-10 11:37:28 PM  

enderthexenocide: has anyone here ever actually gone caroling or had other people caroling at their house?


Yep. But then, I lead a vocal group which sings primarily early music. Once a year we wander around the neighborhood and send the singers' kids to ring the doorbells. If anyone opens up, we sing.

/Most people are rather astonished at the novelty
//Some hide behind the curtains in case we're asking for money
///Others put on a coat and join in
 
gja
2014-01-10 11:56:38 PM  

Bucky Katt: pants wetting whiner


Too much credit. With his head that far up his ass I doubt pants would fit.
 
2014-01-11 03:13:49 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: The hopeless imp: "The Christian Right is neither."

Pssst. Catholics are part of the Christian Left. Just so you can keep up on your derping.


Except for their stance on birth control, abortion, divorce, women, and other Christian denominations. Which definition of Left are you using?
 
2014-01-11 05:53:06 PM  

The hopeless imp: Benjimin_Dover: The hopeless imp: "The Christian Right is neither."

Pssst. Catholics are part of the Christian Left. Just so you can keep up on your derping.

Except for their stance on birth control, abortion, divorce, women, and other Christian denominations. Which definition of Left are you using?


You can do better than that. Catholics and Jews have historically aligned themselves with liberal ideology forming what is known as the Religious Left. Just because there are specific topics in which there may be some disagreement doesn't negate that. They don't let little stuff like those get between them or stop them from supporting liberal pols. Every Christian isn't right-leaning. Take a look at many of the high level Dems and note what religion they claim.
 
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