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(The New York Times)   Family of 91-year-old woman who died during the George Washington Bridge lane closures not blaming NJ Governor Christie for her death because everyone has a time for dying and hers was meant to be in a traffic jam   (nytimes.com) divider line 30
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2014-01-10 01:38:31 PM  
9 votes:
"What difference, at this point, does it make?"

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2014-01-10 01:48:46 PM  
4 votes:

Fano: I think I saw this Twilight Zone. Isn't Christie doomed to be the ambulance driver for all eternity?


Either that, or the ambulance drivers cooked her, and served her to Christie right before an atomic blast destroyed all the forks, which wasn't fair, because there was time now. Time for all the food in the world.
2014-01-10 11:31:33 AM  
4 votes:
How big was the brown paper bag they got yesterday?
2014-01-10 01:44:06 PM  
3 votes:

doubled99: Fun to see the people on the left frothing at the mouth over some incredible "scandal", as it's usually just the anti-Obama crowd trying so hard.


so what you're saying is both sides are bad so trolololol
2014-01-10 02:44:52 PM  
2 votes:
Speaking as a Torontonian, I'm just glad you've got a fat, corrupt douchebag right-winger to take attention away from our fat, corrupt douchebag right-winger.
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2014-01-10 01:52:40 PM  
2 votes:
Three press conferences from now Christie will be admitting his aides were driving the ambulance but he swears he didn't smother her with a pillow himself.
2014-01-10 01:52:40 PM  
2 votes:
This going to take a toll on Christie.
2014-01-10 01:41:45 PM  
2 votes:

Bondith: Mitch Taylor's Bro: A distant, third possibility is the daughter isn't a money-grubbing sue-hound and is taking the high road.

Or maybe she's taking the low road, but the low road's full of traffic jam.


...and I'll be in Trenton AFORE YE!
2014-01-10 03:47:44 PM  
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: LOL. I have one screen on Fark and the other on work. Sometimes they mix. Hopefully, I'll never accidentally call my boss a n00b or a bigot because I got my monitors crossed.


/accountant


CSB(though not mine)

A friend of mine has a similar set up to you at his job. One day, he meant to post a "You be trollin" type image on whatever board he was on at the time, and accidentally included it in an email he was writing to his boss. His boss responded a couple minutes with "If you like your job, you will come to my office. Now." My friend panicked and practically ran to his bosses's office. When he got there, his boss unleashed a can of silly string at him. My friend stood there confused for a moment, at which point his boss said "You said I'm a troll, so I figured I'd troll you. Now get back to work and next time pay more attention to which web window is open."

/end CSB
//yes, he still works there
2014-01-10 03:46:29 PM  
1 votes:
LIGHT'EM UP!!!

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2014-01-10 03:26:54 PM  
1 votes:

Radioactive Ass: Cymbal: At the very least, all those things sound appropriate. You must be a huge fan of death panels and must have been sorely disappointed to find out they weren't a part of the ACA. You sicken me.

You do realize every single one of those things are works of pure fiction right. This has to be a Poe.


Yet not science fiction, which means they have non-fiction equivalencies. Study it out!
2014-01-10 03:16:28 PM  
1 votes:

Cymbal: On the other hand there was no investigation into this woman's death, at least nothing in depth


How much more "Investigation" do you want? She was found looking very dead at the scene while lying on the bathroom floor for an indeterminate time before then. The hospital, soon after she arrived, declared her dead from a heart attack. All of the evidence supports the idea that she was dead before the ambulance even got to her. What do you suggest be done beyond that? Perhaps that Booth and  Saroyan go dig her up in NJ, take her to the Jeffersonian so Bones and the Squints pour over her body looking for the clue that it was anything else but that? Maybe get CSINYNJ to do an in depth analysis of all possible ambulance routes and maybe use their computers to "Enhance" traffic cam footage in order to measure the gap between vehicles using 3D lasers and shiat to see if it might have been shortened by a few yards? People die of heart attack all of the time, especially at 91 years of age. They won't even cut them open, at most they will just do a blood test looking for the chemistry that indicates a heart attack. That's it.
2014-01-10 02:52:51 PM  
1 votes:
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2014-01-10 02:48:52 PM  
1 votes:

Cymbal: what_now: DROxINxTHExWIND: LordJiro:
The point is, I believe, that a 24 year old might have had a decent chance of survival, and an ambulance getting there may have made a difference. A 91 year old having a heart attack? She was almost certainly farked either way, and the traffic jam changed nothing.

/Still think Christie should be thrown out on his fat ass for abusing his power.


LOL. This isn't even about Christie to me anymore. I am seriously sickened by the callous disregard for the lives of old people. I mean, you all aren't even speaking in code. You're really saying, "meh" to the possibility that a woman died because paramedics could not reach her....even as you acknowledge the possibility that she could have been saved. It's pretty ridiculous.

You wanna maybe dial it down a little? You sound absurd.

I don't think it sounds absurd at all. A woman died, her age is irrelevant.

But I could see how someone without empathy would think he sounds absurd.


So, you care about everyone who died?  What about drone strikes on weddings in foreign countries?  Lets investigate it.  And Benghazi-gate...and the number of soldiers who have died in Afghanstan after our mission to kill OBL was accomplished?  Or are you just looking at this death different?
2014-01-10 02:46:20 PM  
1 votes:
What if it had been a fully licensed and functioning heart surgeon who was delayed to the hospital?  Or if the bridge collapsed from the weight of the signs closing two lanes of traffic?  I'm just asking that it all be investigated.
2014-01-10 02:44:26 PM  
1 votes:

Cymbal: Radioactive Ass: DROxINxTHExWIND: I am asking questions that can possibly be answered in an investigation. You're SPECULATING that the woman was already dead and so *wipes hands on pants*. Fark her. She's like 91. Who gives a shiat? Amirite?

So you're "JAQing off then huh?. I'll bet you also wanted to know why the WTC collapsed and couldn't quite seem to accept it when people told you that it was almost surely airplanes and fires that caused it. No dammit! YOU WANT AN INVESTIGATION NOW! IT NEEDS TO BE THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED! WHAT IF BUSH HAD THOSE PLANES FLOWN INTO THEM! WE NEED TO FIND OUT THE...

TRUTH!!!

Everything should be investigated thoroughly, especially something like this. And especially something like 9/11.

Why are you so quick to take everything at face value?


I want the Mythbusters investigated for passing off showmanship and explosives as science.
2014-01-10 02:43:16 PM  
1 votes:
My guess is the family has to commute to NYC and they don't want to provoke any further 'traffic studies'.
2014-01-10 02:41:00 PM  
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: It said they BELIEVE that she may have died before she left the house. BELIEVE.


Protocols are such that unless it is an obvious cause of death - head no longer attached to neck - then it requires to "officially" declare someone dead.  First responders, EMT's and or paramedics may be able to discern that but they can't declare it.  Until you're officially declared dead you're technically still alive.  Therefore, when they left the house without a Dr. present she could not be declared dead.  Yes, they could have called the hospital, conferred with a Dr. and have her declared that way.

Even if they perform a full investigation I seriously doubt any medical professional would be able to state with absolute certainty that yes, had the ambulance been there 3 minutes sooner this woman would be alive today playing tennis, rock climbing and bedding down sailors all day long.  Even if they were able to beam her directly from her home to the hospital its likely that she would still be dead today.

Life is precious but people need to stop making the only measure the length of time a person's here on earth.  Consider quality of life.  Karen Ann Quinlan lived for years comatose in a hospital bed but darn it, she was technically alive so she was winning.  No she wasn't.  People need to have the option to go out on their own terms.
2014-01-10 02:32:46 PM  
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: I am asking questions that can possibly be answered in an investigation. You're SPECULATING that the woman was already dead and so *wipes hands on pants*. Fark her. She's like 91. Who gives a shiat? Amirite?


So you're "JAQing off then huh?. I'll bet you also wanted to know why the WTC collapsed and couldn't quite seem to accept it when people told you that it was almost surely airplanes and fires that caused it. No dammit! YOU WANT AN INVESTIGATION NOW! IT NEEDS TO BE THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED! WHAT IF BUSH HAD THOSE PLANES FLOWN INTO THEM! WE NEED TO FIND OUT THE...

TRUTH!!!

2014-01-10 02:11:42 PM  
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: umad: DROxINxTHExWIND: Nana's Vibrator: The family member's quote I saw (DNRTFA) said she thought she was 91 and already dead before her body left the house.  At this point I think I'd be more worried about lawsuits from people who suffered injuries in car accidents and suffered 5-10 minutes longer due to a willfully terrible act.  Suffering costs money.

No it didn't. It said they BELIEVE that she may have died before she left the house. BELIEVE.

Exactly. Only rocket surgeons can actually tell when somebody is dead. It is waaaay too complicated to do for the layman.


The family are not doctors, champ. Or did the daughter conduct an autopsy before their interview? I may have missed that part. I was watching a special about hyenas.



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Whoo-hoo-hoo, look who knows so much. It just so happens that Mrs. Genoca was only MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do.

/Serve her to the governor with steak fries and A-1 sauce.
2014-01-10 02:11:10 PM  
1 votes:

doubled99: Fun to see the people on the left frothing at the mouth over some incredible "scandal", as it's usually just the anti-Obama crowd trying so hard.


Dude, this is a scandal. Laws were broken.  Show me the Benghazi / IRS laws that were broken.

Or don't and keep touting the BSABSVR narrative as if that's going to get you a free tranny handjob at CPAC.
2014-01-10 01:59:10 PM  
1 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: Fano: I think I saw this Twilight Zone. Isn't Christie doomed to be the ambulance driver for all eternity?

Either that, or the ambulance drivers cooked her, and served her to Christie right before an atomic blast destroyed all the forks, which wasn't fair, because there was time now. Time for all the food in the world.


Dammit. I nearly splorfed a mouthful of lunch all over. Well done.

/ the dead old lady left her grandson a special phone...
2014-01-10 01:45:50 PM  
1 votes:

Bondith: Mitch Taylor's Bro: A distant, third possibility is the daughter isn't a money-grubbing sue-hound and is taking the high road.

Or maybe she's taking the low road, but the low road's full of traffic jam.


They should get some transit peanut butter and some pedestrian bread to make a commuter sandwich.
2014-01-10 01:42:16 PM  
1 votes:
Fun to see the people on the left frothing at the mouth over some incredible "scandal", as it's usually just the anti-Obama crowd trying so hard.
2014-01-10 01:42:02 PM  
1 votes:

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Nabb1: The idealist in me says these folks are taking the high road. But the cynic in me killed that idealist a long time ago and they probably got in contact with her doctor who must have said she wasn't going to live through that no matter what and the ambulance ride was a formality read the last three sentences of the article.

FTFM. The old woman with the failing memory voted for Christie a few years ago. The daughter could also be a Christie fan or perhaps just wants to honor her mother's inclination for supporting him.

A distant, third possibility is the daughter isn't a money-grubbing sue-hound and is taking the high road.

All are acceptable reasons, IMO, for not suing over the death of a 91-year-old because...

"We believe she died in her home, but they couldn't pronounce her until she got to the hospital," said Ms. Oleri's husband, Frank Oleri. "The traffic didn't make any difference."


You take the high road, and I'll take the low road, and Ill get to sue them before you do.
2014-01-10 01:41:01 PM  
1 votes:
I think I saw this Twilight Zone. Isn't Christie doomed to be the ambulance driver for all eternity?
2014-01-10 12:15:23 PM  
1 votes:

Diogenes: Maybe they wanted to divvy up her estate instead of spending it on expensive care.


They could have taken her here.

Just think, she could of died in Secaucus. What a way to go!
2014-01-10 11:59:36 AM  
1 votes:
Maybe they wanted to divvy up her estate instead of spending it on expensive care.
2014-01-10 11:08:50 AM  
1 votes:

Nabb1: The idealist in me says these folks are taking the high road. But the cynic in me killed that idealist a long time ago and they probably got in contact with her doctor who must have said she wasn't going to live through that no matter what and the ambulance ride was a formality.


Doctors HATE lawsuits.  Which is why I never ask my doctor for legal advice.
2014-01-10 10:33:04 AM  
1 votes:
Not blaming him is even better. Makes them look super nice and makes Christie look like an even bigger bastard.
 
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