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(The New York Times)   Family of 91-year-old woman who died during the George Washington Bridge lane closures not blaming NJ Governor Christie for her death because everyone has a time for dying and hers was meant to be in a traffic jam   (nytimes.com) divider line 229
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2014-01-10 10:33:04 AM
Not blaming him is even better. Makes them look super nice and makes Christie look like an even bigger bastard.
 
2014-01-10 10:40:05 AM
Not blaming him leaves an awful lot of money on the table.  Just filing the suit should get you a $5k settlement offer.  Looks like they blew it.
 
2014-01-10 11:04:13 AM
The idealist in me says these folks are taking the high road. But the cynic in me killed that idealist a long time ago and they probably got in contact with her doctor who must have said she wasn't going to live through that no matter what and the ambulance ride was a formality.
 
2014-01-10 11:08:50 AM

Nabb1: The idealist in me says these folks are taking the high road. But the cynic in me killed that idealist a long time ago and they probably got in contact with her doctor who must have said she wasn't going to live through that no matter what and the ambulance ride was a formality.


Doctors HATE lawsuits.  Which is why I never ask my doctor for legal advice.
 
2014-01-10 11:31:33 AM
How big was the brown paper bag they got yesterday?
 
2014-01-10 11:32:09 AM

Nabb1: The idealist in me says these folks are taking the high road. But the cynic in me killed that idealist a long time ago and they probably got in contact with her doctor who must have said she wasn't going to live through that no matter what and the ambulance ride was a formality.


~~It's like this. A dead plaintiff is rarely worth as much as a living, severely-maimed plaintiff. However, if it's a long slow agonizing death, as opposed to a quick drowning or car wreck, the value can rise considerably. A dead adult in his 20s is generally worth less than one who is middle aged. A dead woman less than a dead man. A single adult less than one who's married. Black less than white. Poor less than rich. The perfect victim is a white male professional, 40 years old, at the height of his earning power, struck down in his prime. And the most imperfect? Well, in the calculus of personal injury law, a dead child is worth the least of all.
-A Civil Action
 
2014-01-10 11:45:30 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Nabb1: The idealist in me says these folks are taking the high road. But the cynic in me killed that idealist a long time ago and they probably got in contact with her doctor who must have said she wasn't going to live through that no matter what and the ambulance ride was a formality.

Doctors HATE lawsuits.  Which is why I never ask my doctor for legal advice.


Some doctors love them. Because they make a lot of money from lawyers who hire them. You don't want to ask those doctors for medical advice, either.
 
2014-01-10 11:59:36 AM
Maybe they wanted to divvy up her estate instead of spending it on expensive care.
 
2014-01-10 12:15:23 PM

Diogenes: Maybe they wanted to divvy up her estate instead of spending it on expensive care.


They could have taken her here.

Just think, she could of died in Secaucus. What a way to go!
 
2014-01-10 12:23:30 PM

Nabb1: Marcus Aurelius: Nabb1: The idealist in me says these folks are taking the high road. But the cynic in me killed that idealist a long time ago and they probably got in contact with her doctor who must have said she wasn't going to live through that no matter what and the ambulance ride was a formality.

Doctors HATE lawsuits.  Which is why I never ask my doctor for legal advice.

Some doctors love them. Because they make a lot of money from lawyers who hire them. You don't want to ask those doctors for medical advice, either.


Ha. I know some of those. They are often very rich, and fairly crazy. Even as an attorney, I get chills from the smell of brimstone when they approach.
 
2014-01-10 01:01:50 PM

AlwaysRightBoy: Diogenes: Maybe they wanted to divvy up her estate instead of spending it on expensive care.

They could have taken her here.

Just think, she could of died in Secaucus. What a way to go!


I spent a month in Secaucus one night.

I'll have to see if this place is affiliated with Care One.
 
2014-01-10 01:24:12 PM

Nabb1: The idealist in me says these folks are taking the high road. But the cynic in me killed that idealist a long time ago and they probably got in contact with her doctor who must have said she wasn't going to live through that no matter what and the ambulance ride was a formality read the last three sentences of the article.


FTFM. The old woman with the failing memory voted for Christie a few years ago. The daughter could also be a Christie fan or perhaps just wants to honor her mother's inclination for supporting him.

A distant, third possibility is the daughter isn't a money-grubbing sue-hound and is taking the high road.

All are acceptable reasons, IMO, for not suing over the death of a 91-year-old because...

"We believe she died in her home, but they couldn't pronounce her until she got to the hospital," said Ms. Oleri's husband, Frank Oleri. "The traffic didn't make any difference."
 
2014-01-10 01:27:11 PM
Maybe they don't want their family involved, in any way, with the media circus this will inevitably turn into.
 
2014-01-10 01:27:35 PM
It just keeps getting better.

/no, no it doesn't
//one can only hope people will be punished eventually
 
2014-01-10 01:36:14 PM
It was a 91-year-old woman who had a heart attack. They're probably right.
 
2014-01-10 01:38:31 PM
"What difference, at this point, does it make?"

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2014-01-10 01:38:43 PM
They are lucky the lady who died was so freakin old, if was a young healthy person bleeding out or whatever it would have been a bigger problemo...
 
2014-01-10 01:40:08 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: A distant, third possibility is the daughter isn't a money-grubbing sue-hound and is taking the high road.


Or maybe she's taking the low road, but the low road's full of traffic jam.
 
2014-01-10 01:41:01 PM
I think I saw this Twilight Zone. Isn't Christie doomed to be the ambulance driver for all eternity?
 
2014-01-10 01:41:32 PM
"We believe she died in her home, but they couldn't pronounce her until she got to the hospital," said Ms. Oleri's husband, Frank Oleri. "The traffic didn't make any difference."


I will use a guess as the basis for my assertion. Lets see if anyone notices.
 
2014-01-10 01:41:45 PM

Bondith: Mitch Taylor's Bro: A distant, third possibility is the daughter isn't a money-grubbing sue-hound and is taking the high road.

Or maybe she's taking the low road, but the low road's full of traffic jam.


...and I'll be in Trenton AFORE YE!
 
2014-01-10 01:42:02 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Nabb1: The idealist in me says these folks are taking the high road. But the cynic in me killed that idealist a long time ago and they probably got in contact with her doctor who must have said she wasn't going to live through that no matter what and the ambulance ride was a formality read the last three sentences of the article.

FTFM. The old woman with the failing memory voted for Christie a few years ago. The daughter could also be a Christie fan or perhaps just wants to honor her mother's inclination for supporting him.

A distant, third possibility is the daughter isn't a money-grubbing sue-hound and is taking the high road.

All are acceptable reasons, IMO, for not suing over the death of a 91-year-old because...

"We believe she died in her home, but they couldn't pronounce her until she got to the hospital," said Ms. Oleri's husband, Frank Oleri. "The traffic didn't make any difference."


You take the high road, and I'll take the low road, and Ill get to sue them before you do.
 
2014-01-10 01:42:16 PM
Fun to see the people on the left frothing at the mouth over some incredible "scandal", as it's usually just the anti-Obama crowd trying so hard.
 
2014-01-10 01:43:13 PM
Chances of proving guilt legally and getting paid quickly without a media circus:  very, very low.

Chances of the Penguin sending some goons to break your kneecaps:  high enough to let it go
 
2014-01-10 01:44:06 PM

doubled99: Fun to see the people on the left frothing at the mouth over some incredible "scandal", as it's usually just the anti-Obama crowd trying so hard.


so what you're saying is both sides are bad so trolololol
 
2014-01-10 01:44:07 PM

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: "What difference, at this point, does it make?"


Win!
 
2014-01-10 01:44:22 PM
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2014-01-10 01:44:36 PM
The family member's quote I saw (DNRTFA) said she thought she was 91 and already dead before her body left the house.  At this point I think I'd be more worried about lawsuits from people who suffered injuries in car accidents and suffered 5-10 minutes longer due to a willfully terrible act.  Suffering costs money.
 
2014-01-10 01:45:24 PM
Really? No "In My Time of Dying" reference? Dylan, Zep, Blind Willie or Horace Sprott?
 
2014-01-10 01:45:50 PM

Bondith: Mitch Taylor's Bro: A distant, third possibility is the daughter isn't a money-grubbing sue-hound and is taking the high road.

Or maybe she's taking the low road, but the low road's full of traffic jam.


They should get some transit peanut butter and some pedestrian bread to make a commuter sandwich.
 
2014-01-10 01:46:57 PM

doubled99: Fun to see the people on the left frothing at the mouth over some incredible "scandal", as it's usually just the anti-Obama crowd trying so hard.


The Governor's office using it's authority for revenge and retaliation isn't an issue for you?  Where the fark do you live?  Chile in 80's?
 
2014-01-10 01:47:20 PM

Nabb1: Marcus Aurelius: Nabb1: The idealist in me says these folks are taking the high road. But the cynic in me killed that idealist a long time ago and they probably got in contact with her doctor who must have said she wasn't going to live through that no matter what and the ambulance ride was a formality.

Doctors HATE lawsuits.  Which is why I never ask my doctor for legal advice.

Some doctors love them. Because they make a lot of money from lawyers who hire them. You don't want to ask those doctors for medical advice, either.


Yup. Check out what some doctors charge for depositions. Who the fark needs patients?
 
2014-01-10 01:47:50 PM

kbronsito: ~~It's like this. A dead plaintiff is rarely worth as much as a living, severely-maimed plaintiff. However, if it's a long slow agonizing death, as opposed to a quick drowning or car wreck, the value can rise considerably. A dead adult in his 20s is generally worth less than one who is middle aged. A dead woman less than a dead man. A single adult less than one who's married. Black less than white. Poor less than rich. The perfect victim is a white male professional, 40 years old, at the height of his earning power, struck down in his prime. And the most imperfect? Well, in the calculus of personal injury law, a dead child is worth the least of all.
-A Civil Action


Great book - shaitty movie.
 
2014-01-10 01:48:39 PM
Now someone died over this childish revenge? Oh, I'm gonna sue them for her. Sh*t just got real.
 
2014-01-10 01:48:46 PM

Fano: I think I saw this Twilight Zone. Isn't Christie doomed to be the ambulance driver for all eternity?


Either that, or the ambulance drivers cooked her, and served her to Christie right before an atomic blast destroyed all the forks, which wasn't fair, because there was time now. Time for all the food in the world.
 
2014-01-10 01:50:46 PM

Nana's Vibrator: The family member's quote I saw (DNRTFA) said she thought she was 91 and already dead before her body left the house.  At this point I think I'd be more worried about lawsuits from people who suffered injuries in car accidents and suffered 5-10 minutes longer due to a willfully terrible act.  Suffering costs money.


No it didn't. It said they BELIEVE that she may have died before she left the house. BELIEVE.
 
2014-01-10 01:51:44 PM
So...what you are saying is....they inherited early.
 
2014-01-10 01:52:04 PM
Meh...the family has raided the house for heirlooms and spending their inheritance checks by now. Thanks Gov'na!!
 
2014-01-10 01:52:05 PM

AeAe: doubled99: Fun to see the people on the left frothing at the mouth over some incredible "scandal", as it's usually just the anti-Obama crowd trying so hard.

The Governor's office using it's authority for revenge and retaliation isn't an issue for you?  Where the fark do you live?  Chile in 80's?


*in SNL voice* ....in NEW JERSEY!!!
 
2014-01-10 01:52:40 PM
This going to take a toll on Christie.
 
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2014-01-10 01:52:40 PM
Three press conferences from now Christie will be admitting his aides were driving the ambulance but he swears he didn't smother her with a pillow himself.
 
2014-01-10 01:52:49 PM

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: "What difference, at this point, does it make?"

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That's just a dead ambassador and some marines or seals or something or other. CHRISTIE'S REPUBLICAN, DAMMITALL.
 
2014-01-10 01:53:04 PM

doubled99: Fun to see the people on the left frothing at the mouth over some incredible "scandal",


Its even more fun to see reasonable people criticizing the media's unending fat-shaming of Christie. I'd sure vote for him if he promised to coont-poont Fit Mom on Pay Per View, just to piss off the Politics tab.

/everyone on fark sounds fat, btw.
 
2014-01-10 01:53:10 PM
I do hope a full autopsy is done to determine whether her death could have been prevented by the paramedics. But sure sounds like the family doesn't give a fark because they like Christie more than the dead relative.
 
2014-01-10 01:53:28 PM
Hate to defend a Republican, even if he is a moderate, but is there any proof that he ordered the bridge closed? What is this speculation based on?

/the ones who have been caught orchestrating it should be in jail though
 
2014-01-10 01:53:43 PM

AeAe: doubled99: Fun to see the people on the left frothing at the mouth over some incredible "scandal", as it's usually just the anti-Obama crowd trying so hard.

The Governor's office using it's authority for revenge and retaliation isn't an issue for you?  Where the fark do you live?  Chile in 80's?


Chile in the 80's made some wonderful contributions to the world

www.carlascovers.com
 
2014-01-10 01:54:07 PM
I thought I heard on the news last night that she was already dead even if help had arrive "in time".
 
2014-01-10 01:54:27 PM

doubled99: Fun to see the people on the left frothing at the mouth over some incredible "scandal", as it's usually just the anti-Obama crowd trying so hard.


Oh, stop it. Such a blatant abuse of power affecting so many people over a petty political grudge may not be unique or unusual in politics, but its revelation is. And you know that. You make me tired.
 
2014-01-10 01:55:47 PM

AeAe: Where the fark do you live?  Chile in 80's?


Chris Christie is now Augusto Pinochet? I can't say I've noticed the similarity so far....
 
2014-01-10 01:55:59 PM

Electrify: Hate to defend a Republican, even if he is a moderate, but is there any proof that he ordered the bridge closed? What is this speculation based on?


It's based on the fact that he said he knew nothing about something that was a national news story at the time.
 
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