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2014-01-10 10:25:18 AM
this was more interesting over 50 years ago when Timothy Leary did it with shrooms instead of LSD.
 
2014-01-10 10:51:07 AM
Nobody knows.  It's nearly impossible to conduct a proper study of any sort on it.
 
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2014-01-10 11:03:39 AM

nekom: Nobody knows.  It's nearly impossible to conduct a proper study of any sort on it.


I think that there have been studies in other countries that suggest that it can be useful for treating some conditions.
 
2014-01-10 11:10:40 AM
Well, you can't cut it with mannitol...
 
2014-01-10 11:14:11 AM
vpb:
I think that there have been studies in other countries that suggest that it can be useful for treating some conditions.

Maybe so, but from what I understand it's nearly impossible here.

I've heard plenty of promising anecdotes out there.  A man able to stop his cluster headaches with occasional mushroom use (he grows them himself), heroin addicts using ibogaine to kick the habit, etc.  I think any chemical, no matter its legal status, ought to be properly studied especially when there are several accounts of success.

As for LSD, well it does come with risks.  I've experimented myself and I can tell you this:  My present self would NOT react well to anything that intense, though my teenage self did enjoy it thoroughly.  But then all medications come with some degree of risk.
 
2014-01-10 11:37:05 AM
I read that as LDS and it was more interesting.
 
2014-01-10 11:43:29 AM
blogs.houstonpress.com

Obligatory...
 
2014-01-10 11:44:29 AM
If crime is reduced how will the for-profit prisons be kept full?
 
2014-01-10 11:49:48 AM

nekom: Nobody knows.  It's nearly impossible to conduct a proper study of any sort on it.


Do you subscribe to his newsletter?
0.tqn.com
 
2014-01-10 11:52:25 AM
Not what I ever saw. A thug with 4 or shiats of LSD in his system at 8 pm. remained a thug in the morning.
 
2014-01-10 11:52:48 AM

dryknife: If crime is reduced how will the for-profit prisons be kept full?


political prisoners
 
2014-01-10 11:57:08 AM

forgotmydamnusername: Not what I ever saw. A thug with 4 or shiats of LSD in his system at 8 pm. remained a thug in the morning.


"five hits" became shiats? That filter needs improvement.
 
2014-01-10 12:03:39 PM

Foundling: I read that as LDS and it was more interesting.


i39.tinypic.com
 
2014-01-10 12:03:54 PM
If any of you old timers ever took LSD-25, you will know what I mean when I say that words can't express what a LSD trip is like. I first took a trip in 1966 and what amazed me the most was how could something this amazing actually exist.
 
2014-01-10 12:06:21 PM

nekom: vpb:
I think that there have been studies in other countries that suggest that it can be useful for treating some conditions.

Maybe so, but from what I understand it's nearly impossible here.

I've heard plenty of promising anecdotes out there.  A man able to stop his cluster headaches with occasional mushroom use (he grows them himself), heroin addicts using ibogaine to kick the habit, etc.  I think any chemical, no matter its legal status, ought to be properly studied especially when there are several accounts of success.

As for LSD, well it does come with risks.  I've experimented myself and I can tell you this:  My present self would NOT react well to anything that intense, though my teenage self did enjoy it thoroughly.  But then all medications come with some degree of risk.


John Hopkins did some testing with this.
 
2014-01-10 12:21:46 PM
www.thewvsr.com
 
2014-01-10 12:32:23 PM

wiseolddude: If any of you old timers ever took LSD-25, you will know what I mean when I say that words can't express what a LSD trip is like. I first took a trip in 1966 and what amazed me the most was how could something this amazing actually exist.


I'm not as old as you, but I am north of 50. My first trip, in 1981, was one of the most astonishing experiences of my life. Accidentally dropped a double-hit... resulting in a very, very interesting 20 hours.

That was the day I became an agnostic. And a Rolling Stones fan.
 
2014-01-10 12:58:53 PM
My first time was in 2012. I can honestly say that the experiece was beyond anything I could have ever imagined, never in my wildest dreams would I have thought about how profound the impact on me was going to be.

I honestly think every single able and healthy individual should have an opportunity to try it at least once in their life. I still think about how much it changed me. I never thought I would be able to see the things I saw and think the way I did during that experience. The power that can be unlocked in the mind is a staggering thing.

changed. my. life.
 
2014-01-10 01:07:10 PM

Peruvian Silver Mine: My first time was in 2012. I can honestly say that the experiece was beyond anything I could have ever imagined, never in my wildest dreams would I have thought about how profound the impact on me was going to be.

I honestly think every single able and healthy individual should have an opportunity to try it at least once in their life. I still think about how much it changed me. I never thought I would be able to see the things I saw and think the way I did during that experience. The power that can be unlocked in the mind is a staggering thing.

changed. my. life.


Take some more. Keep taking it until you get bored. It'll happen. Pay close attention to what the drug is doing, and what real life is doing when the drugs wear off. I think you'll find that it primarily functions on the psychological level by inducing confusion. While this is entertaining at times, it's nothing more than that.
 
2014-01-10 01:13:50 PM

forgotmydamnusername: Peruvian Silver Mine: My first time was in 2012. I can honestly say that the experiece was beyond anything I could have ever imagined, never in my wildest dreams would I have thought about how profound the impact on me was going to be.

I honestly think every single able and healthy individual should have an opportunity to try it at least once in their life. I still think about how much it changed me. I never thought I would be able to see the things I saw and think the way I did during that experience. The power that can be unlocked in the mind is a staggering thing.

changed. my. life.

Take some more. Keep taking it until you get bored. It'll happen. Pay close attention to what the drug is doing, and what real life is doing when the drugs wear off. I think you'll find that it primarily functions on the psychological level by inducing confusion. While this is entertaining at times, it's nothing more than that.


I dont need to keep doing it to agree with your statement. I know what it does but at that time I needed something to spark me and that was it. I'm just really happy that spark was in the form of such a groovy experience.

/no interest in doing it again
 
2014-01-10 01:14:11 PM
Making LSD legal would certainly cut crime.
 
2014-01-10 01:26:29 PM

forgotmydamnusername: Peruvian Silver Mine: My first time was in 2012. I can honestly say that the experiece was beyond anything I could have ever imagined, never in my wildest dreams would I have thought about how profound the impact on me was going to be.

I honestly think every single able and healthy individual should have an opportunity to try it at least once in their life. I still think about how much it changed me. I never thought I would be able to see the things I saw and think the way I did during that experience. The power that can be unlocked in the mind is a staggering thing.

changed. my. life.

Take some more. Keep taking it until you get bored. It'll happen. Pay close attention to what the drug is doing, and what real life is doing when the drugs wear off. I think you'll find that it primarily functions on the psychological level by inducing confusion. While this is entertaining at times, it's nothing more than that.



Before he took it, he was Chilean Copper Mine. You do the math.
 
2014-01-10 01:30:35 PM
If we put everyone over 35 on LHD all the time then there won't be any more age decriminalization. We'll create a youth utopia.

/obscure?
 
2014-01-10 01:35:42 PM
images.dangerousminds.net

/approves
 
2014-01-10 01:41:37 PM
Duuuuuuuuuude.

/I've seen the world all my life as if I was LSD...even though I've never done LSD.  Fascinating.
 
2014-01-10 01:44:09 PM

Snarfangel: forgotmydamnusername: Peruvian Silver Mine: My first time was in 2012. I can honestly say that the experiece was beyond anything I could have ever imagined, never in my wildest dreams would I have thought about how profound the impact on me was going to be.

I honestly think every single able and healthy individual should have an opportunity to try it at least once in their life. I still think about how much it changed me. I never thought I would be able to see the things I saw and think the way I did during that experience. The power that can be unlocked in the mind is a staggering thing.

changed. my. life.

Take some more. Keep taking it until you get bored. It'll happen. Pay close attention to what the drug is doing, and what real life is doing when the drugs wear off. I think you'll find that it primarily functions on the psychological level by inducing confusion. While this is entertaining at times, it's nothing more than that.


Before he took it, he was Chilean Copper Mine. You do the math.


Those were different times for me
 
2014-01-10 01:51:22 PM

nekom: Nobody knows.  It's nearly impossible to conduct a proper study of any sort on it.

Nearly

impossible, but extensive field testing in informal settings does continue.

It's an improper study.
 
2014-01-10 01:51:59 PM

dryknife: If crime is reduced how will the for-profit prisons be kept full?


Freedom hater!
 
2014-01-10 01:55:30 PM
I think the primary difference with psychotropics like LSD is that you tend to remember, sometimes with startling intensity, what you experienced while tripping.

What you make of it is up to you, but rarely have I heard "ah, I tripped and I can't remember/it was dull/whatever".
 
2014-01-10 02:04:11 PM

Valiente: I think the primary difference with psychotropics like LSD is that you tend to remember, sometimes with startling intensity, what you experienced while tripping.

What you make of it is up to you, but rarely have I heard "ah, I tripped and I can't remember/it was dull/whatever".


It can be dull, especially after novelty wears off. You can also lose pieces of an evening on occasion, just like if you got pretty drunk.
 
2014-01-10 02:09:17 PM
Good LSD is fun -- but DMT is REALLY eye-opening, and life-changing.
 
2014-01-10 02:39:26 PM
I want some DMT but have no idea how to score any as I've been out of the drug scene for over a decade.

I miss acid. Did around 100 hits between ages 19 and 24 and never had a bad trip.
 
2014-01-10 03:03:00 PM

Valiente: dryknife: If crime is reduced how will the for-profit prisons be kept full?

Freedom hater!


I see what you did there...
 
2014-01-10 03:30:35 PM

chaoswolf: I want some DMT but have no idea how to score any as I've been out of the drug scene for over a decade.


It can be extracted from numerous plant sources which can be legally bought in bulk or grown yourself.  Shame for me I never bothered to try it when I was younger (too lazy, living with parents, etc) and now that I have the means to do that, I'm no longer interested.
 
2014-01-10 04:06:49 PM
electric yellow's got me by the banana brain.
 
2014-01-10 04:33:32 PM
Another day, another green, blue, and electric yellow dollar...

/obscure
 
2014-01-10 04:50:05 PM
Another day, another green, blue, and electric yellow dollar...

/obscure


More Sugar!!
 
2014-01-10 05:33:46 PM
It might if they dosed on a therapeutic environment. But in fairness, the criminal class like that is far more likely to "just wanna trip balls, man" ..
 
2014-01-10 06:03:16 PM

wiseolddude: Another day, another green, blue, and electric yellow dollar...

/obscure

More Sugar!!


Welcome to the Lazy O magic circle dude ranch and collective log farm...take off your clothes and come on in....
 
2014-01-10 07:19:10 PM
This thread is dildos without suitcase from Fear and loathing.
 
2014-01-10 08:11:25 PM
Time to free Apperson and Pickard?
 
2014-01-10 08:38:21 PM

knobmaker: Making LSD legal would certainly cut crime.


According to Jeffrey McDonald it causes spree murders by small groups of roving hippies. Would a Green Beret lie about such a thing?

Used to drive by his house at Ft Bragg in the early 80s, and did so tripping balls more than once. Doesn't (or didn't then) show up on a UA, making it popular with active duty types back then.
 
2014-01-10 08:57:27 PM
You know what would REALLY cut crime? Sex. Lots and lots of sex. Most serious violent crime is done by young, frustrated and horny men. A lot of the weirder stuff, like serial killing, is also rooted inexorably with sex. Chimps horde females and are ruthlessly violent. Bonobos love freely and make the Buddha look like a warmonger in comparison. Music doesn't sooth the savage beast, sex does. But STDs and overpopulation means we shouldn't just encourage wholesale promiscuity. We need sex bots.

If we could just flood these troubled groups with all the sex they want, using Marlyn Monrobots, we could prevent a whole lot of crime from ever starting. Who would rob a kid for his sneakers if they already got the sex at home? The only reason you want funky shoes is to impress the females. Once you're gettin' it on the reg, you no longer do stupid shiat to laid and you become sensible.

However, lacking an army of sexbots with robotic Passion PortsTM that rival the human experience to flood the problem areas and put a damper on the flames of hate, drugs are a good close second. There's plenty of drugs that pretty much prevent violence. You take it, feel good, pass out. We should encourage those by rewarding community service with access to them. Instead of crack heads stealing your TV, we'll get dragon chasers mowing your lawn to professional specs and ravers successfully completing night courses in vocational fields. Not perfect, but certainly preferable to the clusterfark we have now.
 
2014-01-10 10:38:31 PM
Funny, I was just wondering the other day if LSD could cut down on religious terrorists.
 
2014-01-11 12:15:35 AM

georgehwbush: Funny, I was just wondering the other day if LSD could cut down on religious terrorists.


Have you ever exploded yourself, and others on a train station platform? Have you ever exploded yourself, and others on a train station platform....ON WEED?!!
 
2014-01-11 12:49:15 AM
LSD is not for everyone.
 
2014-01-11 02:49:20 AM

lepton68: Another day, another green, blue, and electric yellow dollar...

/obscure


Hahahaha Tiny Dr. Tim.....
 
2014-01-11 04:32:12 AM
Did you ever try to rob a liquor store that was being operated by eight-foot rhododendrons?
That  are singing "It's a Small. Small world"?
It ain't easy.
 
2014-01-11 12:18:47 PM

godwin5: wiseolddude: Another day, another green, blue, and electric yellow dollar...

/obscure

More Sugar!!

Welcome to the Lazy O magic circle dude ranch and collective log farm...take off your clothes and come on in....


...and here we have a life sized replica of the Taj Mahal made entirely out of oleomargarine.

/listened to that album so many times.
 
2014-01-11 04:35:27 PM
of course it could, but did you ever see a justice system that wanted less money?

/i was intravenous drug addict and criminal 6 years
//stopped forever after psychedelic experience
///4-HO-MiPT better than LSD IMHO
 
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