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(The Times of India)   Good news for 1%-ers who need a 108" shape-shifting ultra-HD TV for their volcano island man-cave   (timesofindia.indiatimes.com) divider line 27
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2014-01-10 09:43:35 AM  
And in a few years 70"-90" TVs will almost be the norm like 50"-60" TVs are now, has nothing to do with being rich.

Didn't Kevin Smith tell a story on his podcast about being given a flat screen TV about this size and him thinking its just useless? Then he put it in his bedroom and loved it, everything looks gaudy until there is a practical use or love for it.
 
2014-01-10 09:50:26 AM  

steamingpile: And in a few years 70"-90" TVs will almost be the norm like 50"-60" TVs are now, has nothing to do with being rich.

Didn't Kevin Smith tell a story on his podcast about being given a flat screen TV about this size and him thinking its just useless? Then he put it in his bedroom and loved it, everything looks gaudy until there is a practical use or love for it.


Coming home after Christmas my own TV seemed huge and awesome (47") after watching TV on my moms 32". Then again it is probably because she only gets SD cable
 
2014-01-10 09:53:30 AM  

steamingpile: And in a few years 70"-90" TVs will almost be the norm like 50"-60" TVs are now, has nothing to do with being rich.


Pretty much this.

Maybe a little more forcefully: wait 10 years - there will be arguments over the presence of these in the homes of people on welfare.  "Why are people with televisions like that on food stamps?"  "Poor people can own stuff!"  "How needy are they with televisions like that?"
 
2014-01-10 09:59:04 AM  

steamingpile: And in a few years 70"-90" TVs will almost be the norm like 50"-60" TVs are now, has nothing to do with being rich.


50"-60" is the norm? Mine is 15".
 
2014-01-10 10:10:05 AM  
Really, at what point does the human eye stop being able to tell the difference. At some point the HD ^10X10000 becomes superfluous. Right?


Laobaojun: Maybe a little more forcefully: wait 10 years - there will be arguments over the presence of these in the homes of people on welfare. "Why are people with televisions like that on food stamps?" "Poor people can own stuff!" "How needy are they with televisions like that?"


I know the meme and all that and since we are on the Geek tab and not the Politics tab I have a shot in hell of getting a non-trolly answer: you do realize that was a comment on how we define poor? If you've ever been out of the country and away from the all inclusive resort there is a chance you've seen poor. And I'm sure there is some people in this country that can claim to be truly poor, as defined by the rest of the world. Most of the people claiming poverty in the United States are at worse disadvantaged.

This is a debate about terms. I believe we can and should help out, but properly identifying and defining a problem is the first step in helping.
 
2014-01-10 10:28:37 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Really, at what point does the human eye stop being able to tell the difference. At some point the HD ^10X10000 becomes superfluous. Right?


Laobaojun: Maybe a little more forcefully: wait 10 years - there will be arguments over the presence of these in the homes of people on welfare. "Why are people with televisions like that on food stamps?" "Poor people can own stuff!" "How needy are they with televisions like that?"

I know the meme and all that and since we are on the Geek tab and not the Politics tab I have a shot in hell of getting a non-trolly answer: you do realize that was a comment on how we define poor? If you've ever been out of the country and away from the all inclusive resort there is a chance you've seen poor. And I'm sure there is some people in this country that can claim to be truly poor, as defined by the rest of the world. Most of the people claiming poverty in the United States are at worse disadvantaged.

This is a debate about terms. I believe we can and should help out, but properly identifying and defining a problem is the first step in helping.


SH - I am right there with you.  We have a culture that emphasizes accumulation of things, a high standard of living, and a complete lack of patience.  All the more reason for me to be scornful of both sides of that argument.  And you don't even need to leave the U.S. to see grinding poverty, so people claiming that a lack of luxuries equals poverty are lame and tedious to my ears.

But when the 1% have paid off the R&D for these beasts, the prices will come right down.  Hmmm...  I should start planning to clear some wall space.
 
2014-01-10 10:46:57 AM  
Regarding 4k::

1) If 4k streaming is ever offered, gobs more bandwidth required = broken internet.
2) Broken internet = infrastructure improvements required = higher internet cost.
3) Unless you're watching with your face smashed against the screen, will you even be able to tell the difference?

Not really sold on 4k.
 
2014-01-10 11:40:41 AM  

Gordon Bennett: 50"-60" is the norm? Mine is 15".


I know youre trying to be edgy but try harder, you can get a TV for $200 thats 30" and can even double as a computer monitor, pay $400+ and you can get one in that range.
 
2014-01-10 11:49:17 AM  
I know there are a lot of "area men" in these threads, but for me TVs can't get big enough. A couple years ago I bought a 55" (replacing a 34" tube), and nowadays it just looks small on my wall. I'm planning on moving the 55 to my bedroom and replacing that one with a 70 or so -- preferably 4K. I've seen both, and I think I can see the difference (whether or not it's placebo, it's still real to me).
 
2014-01-10 12:04:31 PM  

GibbyTheMole: Regarding 4k::

1) If 4k streaming is ever offered, gobs more bandwidth required = broken internet.
2) Broken internet = infrastructure improvements required = higher internet cost.
3) Unless you're watching with your face smashed against the screen, will you even be able to tell the difference?

Not really sold on 4k.


We'll see soon. Netflix is streaming House of Cards season 2 in 4k through the apps on some of the new TVs being launched this spring. With H.265 compression or the new VP9 codec that Google is pushing it should be doable in areas with decent broadband. The infrastructure is slowly, improving too. My Comcast connection is regularly showing 60 Mbps from Speedtest, and I've got the run of the mill bundle in the Seattle area, and other areas in the country are getting fiber. It's coming around.
 
2014-01-10 12:19:04 PM  

Gordon Bennett: steamingpile: And in a few years 70"-90" TVs will almost be the norm like 50"-60" TVs are now, has nothing to do with being rich.

50"-60" is the norm? Mine is 15".


50-60 inch TVs are now around 600-1000 dollars, within the reach of the poor to own a big TV, just like the middle class and rich. 60+ inches range anywhere between $1500-4000 dollars and within the reach of the middle class who want a better TV than the poors, and those ultra large 100+ inch TV's are in the range of $10,000+.
 
2014-01-10 12:26:10 PM  

Mad_Radhu: GibbyTheMole: Regarding 4k::

1) If 4k streaming is ever offered, gobs more bandwidth required = broken internet.
2) Broken internet = infrastructure improvements required = higher internet cost.
3) Unless you're watching with your face smashed against the screen, will you even be able to tell the difference?

Not really sold on 4k.

We'll see soon. Netflix is streaming House of Cards season 2 in 4k through the apps on some of the new TVs being launched this spring. With H.265 compression or the new VP9 codec that Google is pushing it should be doable in areas with decent broadband. The infrastructure is slowly, improving too. My Comcast connection is regularly showing 60 Mbps from Speedtest, and I've got the run of the mill bundle in the Seattle area, and other areas in the country are getting fiber. It's coming around.




Apparently the new codecs allow the 4x jump in resolution to be transmitted in only 1.5x the bandwidth. Going from around 8mbps to 12mbps.
 
2014-01-10 12:38:22 PM  

Laobaojun: But when the 1% have paid off the R&D for these beasts, the prices will come right down. Hmmm... I should start planning to clear some wall space.


Standard economic theory, the "early adopters" always pick up the majority of costs. They pay a premium to be on the cutting edge of technology and do so happily.

God bless 'em.


/Never buy the fastest processor, the newest cell phone or the first model of any car.
 
2014-01-10 12:53:02 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Laobaojun: But when the 1% have paid off the R&D for these beasts, the prices will come right down. Hmmm... I should start planning to clear some wall space.

Standard economic theory, the "early adopters" always pick up the majority of costs. They pay a premium to be on the cutting edge of technology and do so happily.

God bless 'em.


/Never buy the fastest processor, the newest cell phone or the first model of any car.


www.bulhufas.es
teamsuperforest.org
4.bp.blogspot.com

Sounds like you're living the life.
 
2014-01-10 12:59:45 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Laobaojun: But when the 1% have paid off the R&D for these beasts, the prices will come right down. Hmmm... I should start planning to clear some wall space.

Standard economic theory, the "early adopters" always pick up the majority of costs. They pay a premium to be on the cutting edge of technology and do so happily.

God bless 'em.


/Never buy the fastest processor, the newest cell phone or the first model of any car.

[www.bulhufas.es image 500x375]
[teamsuperforest.org image 500x666]
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 400x266]

Sounds like you're living the life.


I actually like the car.

but something more like this:

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As for the rest of it I'll stick to my Iphone 5 and Playstation 3
 
2014-01-10 01:19:21 PM  

Faddy: Mad_Radhu: GibbyTheMole: Regarding 4k::

1) If 4k streaming is ever offered, gobs more bandwidth required = broken internet.
2) Broken internet = infrastructure improvements required = higher internet cost.
3) Unless you're watching with your face smashed against the screen, will you even be able to tell the difference?

Not really sold on 4k.

We'll see soon. Netflix is streaming House of Cards season 2 in 4k through the apps on some of the new TVs being launched this spring. With H.265 compression or the new VP9 codec that Google is pushing it should be doable in areas with decent broadband. The infrastructure is slowly, improving too. My Comcast connection is regularly showing 60 Mbps from Speedtest, and I've got the run of the mill bundle in the Seattle area, and other areas in the country are getting fiber. It's coming around.

Apparently the new codecs allow the 4x jump in resolution to be transmitted in only 1.5x the bandwidth. Going from around 8mbps to 12mbps.


Hmmm... Ya learn something new every day!   :-)
 
2014-01-10 01:26:38 PM  
From the first paragraph of the article:

4K -- or in other words Ultra HD

No.

Ultra HD is double the resolution of FullHD with 3840x2160 pixels.

Also, no.
 
2014-01-10 01:26:52 PM  
4K is the 720 of this new generation of resolution. 8K is coming fast, and will be where it's at. 4K owners will be in the same place 720 owners were in... what year did HD come out? 2003?

I finally saw a display 4K... and as a plasma 1080 snob... it's not really impressive. Close up the pixels looks almost the same, and sitting back I couldn't tell it was a 4K. The one I saw was in a room on its own, not next to a 1080 so I couldn't really compare. But it didn't look that much different. And this was display content. Torch mode OMG stuff.

OLED is the bigger news in TV tech, the displays will look real, and 720 will look 100 times better than 8K. It's like marketing a camera on megapixels. The pixels don't matter, it's the quality of the lens that makes the difference.
 
2014-01-10 04:20:43 PM  
Frank watches his 2000inch tv from his mountain and laughs
 
2014-01-10 05:10:47 PM  
I like my 40" TV. I don't really want to go bigger, although I'd take better resolution and contrast. Any bigger, and the TV starts swallowing up the room...

Maybe if I had a dedicated home theater, but for a room where people do other things besides watch TV, don't like it...
 
2014-01-10 06:48:23 PM  
You don't have to be a 1%er to afford a TV like this you just need to sell your child into white slavery for a year.
 
2014-01-10 07:49:52 PM  
buyer beware. most of these panels are 30hz refresh rates.
 
2014-01-10 08:32:17 PM  
Meh. I'm more than happy with my 60" 120hz LG.

I can see Crosby's tears from my back porch while I enjoy a cigar.
 
2014-01-10 08:54:04 PM  

flaminio: I know there are a lot of "area men" in these threads, but for me TVs can't get big enough. A couple years ago I bought a 55" (replacing a 34" tube), and nowadays it just looks small on my wall. I'm planning on moving the 55 to my bedroom and replacing that one with a 70 or so -- preferably 4K. I've seen both, and I think I can see the difference (whether or not it's placebo, it's still real to me).


I wish they'd stop designing them to look like TV's and make some that look like nice picture frames.   I could use it as a digital photo frame when it's not in use as a TV, and it wouldn't look as gaudy as a huge TV in the living room.  I've thought about having a custom frame made, but it would almost certainly require cutting into the wall, as the "flat" screens are still a bit too thick (not to mention the wires).

My living room TV is a 42", and there's a part of me that feels like the police will be busting in at any moment with a film crew for the latest episode of COPS.  A small living room with a huge TV seemed* to be the trademark of trashy homes on that show.

* seems?  I'm not sure if it's still on.
 
2014-01-10 09:32:32 PM  
Saw 'em, thought "meh" and continued. Anyone else find this year to be underwhelming? Maybe I'm just jaded.
 
2014-01-11 01:50:18 AM  
Volcano island, check.

img.fark.net

Man cave... well... there's a room downstairs that needs to be turned into  something, although my wife is much more of a TV viewer than I am.  Maybe a gender-neutral-cave?
 
2014-01-11 05:58:30 PM  
I want to see full detail in every flake, stain, and hair-pore on that guy from Duck Dynasty

/no I really, really don't
 
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