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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Boardwalk Empire's fifth season will also be its last   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 97
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2014-01-10 11:39:28 AM

Radioactive Ass: Expensive production values. Big name star power in Buscemi. A story that has a limited shelf life as far as the time period goes (prohibition is going to end soon). Yeah, I can see it ending. 12 episodes are enough to tie it all up ending with either with the jailing or death of Buscemi. Most of the other characters are based upon historic figures so their story has already been told. As long as it doesn't end wi...


Not really; prohibition didn't end until 1932, and the show's only into the mid-1920s.  I honestly thought they'd run eight or nine seasons so they could work their way up to Capone's arrest and conviction, which happened near the end of Prohibition.
 
2014-01-10 11:47:07 AM

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: I was bummed when I read the news on twitter from none other than Chalky (Michael K. Williams) himself. I had to google it to confirm it. Still bummed about it now.

While I agree that it is better to end a show before it gets stale, Boardwalk Empire isn't getting stale. There is plenty of room for at least two more seasons after this one. Al Capone is just beginning to show us what a nut he is.

Season four came to a disappointing conclusion. I was hoping Narcisse would meet his end in a satisfying way. Chalky turned out to be a bumbling fark up. Nucky is far from being in control... Most disappointing of all is that Richard Harrow had such a pathetic demise. A guy with his body count getting picked off like that? C'mon. I don't think they gave his exit the proper thought it deserved.

Well, I guess if they're gonna give their characters lame deaths, maybe they should end it.


He died because he didn't want to kill anymore but couldn't live a normal life because of all his past sins.
 
2014-01-10 11:49:06 AM

LeroyBourne: robsul82: [assets-s3.rollingstone.com image 600x400]

There's no reason to go much further anyway.

This.  It was a fitting outing, but I still got a big ol lump in my throat.
/the actor is in American Hustle, he'll go far.


I thought it was funny that in the movie he was part of the mob's Atlantic City delegation.
 
2014-01-10 11:54:29 AM

Hilarity_N_Sues: I totally want the series to end with this man running Atlantic City.

[imageshack.com image 604x340]

/hehehehehehehe


That guy eventually grew on me and now I love him.
 
2014-01-10 11:56:44 AM

Mad_Radhu: LeroyBourne: robsul82: [assets-s3.rollingstone.com image 600x400]

There's no reason to go much further anyway.

This.  It was a fitting outing, but I still got a big ol lump in my throat.
/the actor is in American Hustle, he'll go far.

I thought it was funny that in the movie he was part of the mob's Atlantic City delegation.


The Missus and I were pleased and took this as our "Yay! Harrow Lives!" Happy Place.
 
2014-01-10 12:05:14 PM
And "Girls" was given another season.....WTF?!
 
2014-01-10 12:24:35 PM

EbolaNYC: Yeah, I am ok with this, it's time. Love this series, but I don't want to see it slowly slide into something idiotic like so many shows do.


Yeah.  HBO seems to know when to call it quits when they are ahead.  I'd argue the only major show they ended too soon was Deadwood, but I'm probably too biased to listen to any logical argument to the contrary.
 
2014-01-10 12:35:26 PM

Shrugging Atlas: EbolaNYC: Yeah, I am ok with this, it's time. Love this series, but I don't want to see it slowly slide into something idiotic like so many shows do.

Yeah.  HBO seems to know when to call it quits when they are ahead.  I'd argue the only major show they ended too soon was Deadwood, but I'm probably too biased to listen to any logical argument to the contrary.


Agreed,  that's certainly an exception, I'm still not happy that those c@cks#@&ing motherf#@%ers handled it like that, but I can live with it.
 
2014-01-10 12:47:50 PM

Shrugging Atlas: EbolaNYC: Yeah, I am ok with this, it's time. Love this series, but I don't want to see it slowly slide into something idiotic like so many shows do.

Yeah.  HBO seems to know when to call it quits when they are ahead.  I'd argue the only major show they ended too soon was Deadwood, but I'm probably too biased to listen to any logical argument to the contrary.


Except with True Blood and Entourage (and it's getting a movie?), those should have ended before they did, and it would have been nice to see some more of Carnivàle.


Two Dogs Farking: tricycleracer: j4x: Was also expecting them to have Rothstein killed over his gambling debts because it seemed like they were setting up for that.

In real life, Arnold Rothstein was shot dead in 1928.  I'd like them to retain some sort of historical accuracy.

Well, the 4th season took place in 1924, so there's still room for that.

If they jump to 1928 for season 5, they can be historically accurate on Rothstein's death, the Valentine's Day Massacre, and maybe Capone's imprisonment.


I would be on board with this.  Rothstein's death and the V Day Massacre would be a great payoff to both of those story arcs.
 
2014-01-10 12:58:14 PM

Shrugging Atlas: EbolaNYC: Yeah, I am ok with this, it's time. Love this series, but I don't want to see it slowly slide into something idiotic like so many shows do.

Yeah.  HBO seems to know when to call it quits when they are ahead.  I'd argue the only major show they ended too soon was Deadwood, but I'm probably too biased to listen to any logical argument to the contrary.



NOT TRUE.


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2014-01-10 01:00:17 PM

Shrugging Atlas: any logical argument to the contrary.



Rome
 
2014-01-10 01:10:50 PM

Shrugging Atlas: Yeah. HBO seems to know when to call it quits when they are ahead. I'd argue the only major show they ended too soon was Deadwood, but I'm probably too biased to listen to any logical argument to the contrary.


Deadwood didn't end, it simply stopped with no resolution.  Rome was rushed to a completely half-assd ending.  It should have run at least five seasons just to cover the beginnings of the imperial era under Augustus.
 
2014-01-10 01:12:52 PM

Slow To Return: Shrugging Atlas: any logical argument to the contrary.


Rome


THIS!

Rome was cancelled prematurely and they had to cram everything into the last half of season 2 :\
Should have been given at least one more season but I guess it was the most expensive show or at least one of the most expensive shows in TV history.
So it had to go...
 
2014-01-10 01:25:34 PM

Primitive Screwhead: Should have been given at least one more season but I guess it was the most expensive show or at least one of the most expensive shows in TV history.


It WAS the most expensive show at the time.  GoT is actually costing HBO millions more per episode, and they don't have a joint producer like they did with Rome (where the BBC was footing half the bill).

Rome was being filmed at Cinecitta outside of Rome and there's something about that studio which scares American execs and leads to stories of costs spiraling out of control.  Cal it the "Cleopatra Curse" as it started with the Taylor/Burton/Harrison film
 
2014-01-10 01:32:13 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Rome was being filmed at Cinecitta outside of Rome and there's something about that studio which scares American execs and leads to stories of costs spiraling out of control. Cal it the "Cleopatra Curse" as it started with the Taylor/Burton/Harrison film


I thought I'd read that the studio burned to the ground, therefore dooming any hope of Rome getting spun back up?
 
2014-01-10 01:32:56 PM

robsul82: [assets-s3.rollingstone.com image 600x400]

There's no reason to go much further anyway.


Man, did I hate that. I turned off the TV, poured three fingers of whisky into a glass, and had a sad for a good hour before I could go to bed. Of all the characters on the show I wanted Richard to walk away and vanish into the ordinary life he wanted so badly.

From his initial meeting with Jimmy, he was a riveting character, a rare combo of writers and an actor really delivering. Now all I can do is watch the show for the acting of Steve Buscemi and Michael K Williams.

/and the occasional nekkidness
 
2014-01-10 01:35:47 PM

Lamadin: I still appreciate the show, but I don't think it ever recovered from killing Jimmy. The first two seasons of that show... man, couldn't WAIT to see the next episode. Had to force myself to finish season 3, haven't even bothered with 4 yet.


4 was actually much, much better than 3; 3 sort of flailing on not knowing which was to take it.  Watch season 4 over 3 days a few weeks back and it felt great still.

I'm a big proponent of ending things while they're on a high note, so good for HBO.
 
2014-01-10 01:45:11 PM

Slow To Return: Dwight_Yeast: Rome was being filmed at Cinecitta outside of Rome and there's something about that studio which scares American execs and leads to stories of costs spiraling out of control. Cal it the "Cleopatra Curse" as it started with the Taylor/Burton/Harrison film

I thought I'd read that the studio burned to the ground, therefore dooming any hope of Rome getting spun back up?


No, it's still very much there.  And based on some stuff I've seen recently, I think the Rome sets (or parts of them) are still standing and being used to other productions.
 
2014-01-10 02:07:27 PM
The last season made me feel like I was watching a music video with all the singing and the length of time given to each song. I ended up fast forwarding though the songs and dance numbers, but it was still disturbing to the overall experience of the show. I really wish they would have kept the singing and dance numbers to a background event or shortened the length of time they were in the foreground.
 
2014-01-10 02:08:07 PM

Already Disturbed: Shrugging Atlas: EbolaNYC: Yeah, I am ok with this, it's time. Love this series, but I don't want to see it slowly slide into something idiotic like so many shows do.

Yeah.  HBO seems to know when to call it quits when they are ahead.  I'd argue the only major show they ended too soon was Deadwood, but I'm probably too biased to listen to any logical argument to the contrary.


NOT TRUE.
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I wanted to  like that show but it never went anywhere, definitely a waste of time
 
2014-01-10 02:16:38 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Shrugging Atlas: Yeah. HBO seems to know when to call it quits when they are ahead. I'd argue the only major show they ended too soon was Deadwood, but I'm probably too biased to listen to any logical argument to the contrary.

Deadwood didn't end, it simply stopped with no resolution.  Rome was rushed to a completely half-assd ending.  It should have run at least five seasons just to cover the beginnings of the imperial era under Augustus.


Rome was at least given an ending.

Deadwood was cancelled JUST BEFORE THE SEASON STARTED.

Milch and the HBO execs involved deserve to be Mister Wu's Pig Chow.
 
2014-01-10 02:29:00 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Deadwood was cancelled JUST BEFORE THE SEASON STARTED.


Yes, that's what I said:

OtherLittleGuy: Dwight Yeast: Deadwood didn't end, it simply stopped with no resolution.

 
2014-01-10 02:31:50 PM

mcmnky: All the Chicago stuff just goes to establishing Capone. But his story is so well known, so why bother?


True Fact: As I type this, Al's remains are buried less than a mile away.
 
2014-01-10 02:31:59 PM

Dwight_Yeast: No, it's still very much there. And based on some stuff I've seen recently, I think the Rome sets (or parts of them) are still standing and being used to other productions.


From the "Rome" Wikipedia page:

The production is regarded as one of the most expensive in the history of television. Funding was generously employed to recreate an impressively detailed set featuring a number of Roman Villas, the Forum, and a vast slum area of the ancient city of Rome. A significant part of this set was later destroyed by a fire that burned down a portion of the Cinecittà Studios in 2007.[9] According to HBO, the fire started after they had finished filming the second season.[10] A portion of the set was also used in late 2007 by the crew of the long-running BBC sci-fi drama series Doctor Who, for the fourth season episode "The Fires of Pompeii".

Perhaps it was just "some" of the set that was lost?
 
2014-01-10 02:35:16 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Rome was rushed to a completely half-assd ending.  It should have run at least five seasons just to cover the beginnings of the imperial era under Augustus.


I thought Rome was fine how it ended, particularly given the fact they only intended on it being the one season surrounding Julius Caesar.

Given the immense cost of each episode I do get why they pulled it though I'm not happy about it.

there are some who call me...: Except with True Blood and Entourage


Good points.  I never watched but a few episdoes of True Blood, but yeah, Entourage jumped the shark for me so long ago I actually forget it's still going.
 
2014-01-10 02:35:20 PM

Slow To Return: Perhaps it was just "some" of the set that was lost?


Probably.  Cinecitta is vast.  It's one of the last real backlot studios.
 
2014-01-10 02:44:08 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Slow To Return: Perhaps it was just "some" of the set that was lost?

Probably.  Cinecitta is vast.  It's one of the last real backlot studios.



Yea, I just re-read my original comment, where I mistakenly stated that the "studio" had burnt to the ground.  Clearly, I meant "set".
 
2014-01-10 03:11:08 PM

Shrugging Atlas: I thought Rome was fine how it ended, particularly given the fact they only intended on it being the one season surrounding Julius Caesar.


No, it was supposed to run for a number of seasons.  It was just that Julius Caesar was only supposed to figure in the fist one.  After that, the show was really going to revolve around Augustus (Octavian), which makes sense if you know your Roman history, as it's under Augustus that things get interesting and that the empire and the concept of Imperial (rather than Republican) Rome develops.

/I'm a Roman history geek; I was looking forward to it.
//they tried to compress much of it into the second season, when they really should have had at least four more to do it justice.
 
2014-01-10 03:13:22 PM
Hope season 5 is just mind farking amazing. 1 and 2 were fantastic, 3 was stellar, and 4 was just... it dragged for me. I didn't give a flying fark about Dr. Narcisse, he was an ineffectual villain, and Daughter Maitland just drove me bonkers. They dragged out the shiat with Gillian too long, she should have had her downfall last season. By the time she finally went down it wasn't satisfying. The best thing abut this past season was Van Alden coming into his own as a bona fide bad ass.
 
2014-01-10 03:33:24 PM

Dwight_Yeast: OtherLittleGuy: Deadwood was cancelled JUST BEFORE THE SEASON STARTED.

Yes, that's what I said:

OtherLittleGuy: Dwight Yeast: Deadwood didn't end, it simply stopped with no resolution.


Cancelled, stopped..... let's both agree David Milch is a cocksucka.
 
2014-01-10 03:35:49 PM

hollowmoon: I didn't give a flying fark about Dr. Narcisse,


If they just wanted to conractually produce a Season 5 on a low budget, just have Jeffrey Wright read from Wikipedia for 10 episodes.
 
2014-01-10 03:41:22 PM

OldManDownDRoad: robsul82: [assets-s3.rollingstone.com image 600x400]

There's no reason to go much further anyway.

Man, did I hate that. I turned off the TV, poured three fingers of whisky into a glass, and had a sad for a good hour before I could go to bed. Of all the characters on the show I wanted Richard to walk away and vanish into the ordinary life he wanted so badly.


Me too. I had to watch "Bob's Burgers" as a palate cleanser after that.
 
2014-01-10 03:45:12 PM

OldManDownDRoad: Man, did I hate that. I turned off the TV, poured three fingers of whisky into a glass, and had a sad for a good hour before I could go to bed. Of all the characters on the show I wanted Richard to walk away and vanish into the ordinary life he wanted so badly.


I hated that they did the clichéd foreshadowing goodbye scene.
 
2014-01-10 03:56:18 PM

hollowmoon: Hope season 5 is just mind farking amazing. 1 and 2 were fantastic, 3 was stellar, and 4 was just... it dragged for me. I didn't give a flying fark about Dr. Narcisse, he was an ineffectual villain, and Daughter Maitland just drove me bonkers. They dragged out the shiat with Gillian too long, she should have had her downfall last season. By the time she finally went down it wasn't satisfying. The best thing abut this past season was Van Alden coming into his own as a bona fide bad ass.


You summed it up very well for me.  Don't get the hype for season 4.  There was really no major plot, just several minor plots interwoven together.  Too much screen time for Daughter, Dr. Narcisse, Gillian - not enough for Meyer Lansky, Lucky, and Arnold.  There was a subplot with Lucky running into his boss' cousin in Florida that sort of went nowhere?

Wish there's a spin-off series for Capone, Meyer, and Lucky.  Benny's in the show too, but had maybe just one scene.  Nucky's story is done.

With "Spartacus," I think Showtime's going to have a spin-off about Julius Caesar and Crassus, which could be awesome.  The actors playing those two did an amazing job, and could carry a show on their own.
 
2014-01-10 03:59:21 PM
The Banana Thug:
Wish there's a spin-off series for Capone, Meyer, and Lucky.  Benny's in the show too, but had maybe just one scene.  Nucky's story is done.

I agree. I could watch Stephen Graham all day. I've been a fan of his since Snatch.
 
2014-01-10 04:01:46 PM

Slow To Return: OldManDownDRoad: Man, did I hate that. I turned off the TV, poured three fingers of whisky into a glass, and had a sad for a good hour before I could go to bed. Of all the characters on the show I wanted Richard to walk away and vanish into the ordinary life he wanted so badly.

I hated that they did the clichéd foreshadowing goodbye scene.


What?  Are you talking about where it looked like he was coming home to his family?  That's not the definition of foreshadowing.  I thought that was well done, it did set up the shock that revealed Richard was actually dead.  I'd prefer if shows were more rooted in reality and not do any dream sequence or hallucinations (looking at you, "Sopranos"), but that's one exception I would make.  Definitely delivered a punch.
 
2014-01-10 04:12:50 PM

The Banana Thug: What? Are you talking about where it looked like he was coming home to his family?



No, I'm talking about the scene where he sent Julia and Tommy to his sister's, and promised that he'd be there soon after.
 
2014-01-10 04:12:57 PM

The Banana Thug: hollowmoon: Hope season 5 is just mind farking amazing. 1 and 2 were fantastic, 3 was stellar, and 4 was just... it dragged for me. I didn't give a flying fark about Dr. Narcisse, he was an ineffectual villain, and Daughter Maitland just drove me bonkers. They dragged out the shiat with Gillian too long, she should have had her downfall last season. By the time she finally went down it wasn't satisfying. The best thing abut this past season was Van Alden coming into his own as a bona fide bad ass.

You summed it up very well for me.  Don't get the hype for season 4.  There was really no major plot, just several minor plots interwoven together.  Too much screen time for Daughter, Dr. Narcisse, Gillian - not enough for Meyer Lansky, Lucky, and Arnold.  There was a subplot with Lucky running into his boss' cousin in Florida that sort of went nowhere?

Wish there's a spin-off series for Capone, Meyer, and Lucky.  Benny's in the show too, but had maybe just one scene.  Nucky's story is done.

With "Spartacus," I think Showtime's going to have a spin-off about Julius Caesar and Crassus, which could be awesome.  The actors playing those two did an amazing job, and could carry a show on their own.


Agreed to both. Everyone wants more of the New York crew, and yet Winter wasted another season on Nucky's existential crisis. Nucky is the least interesting characters on the show by far. (Well. Actually. Nevermind -- that honor should go to Eli's son, who not only derailed the show with his asinine college plot, but is now shaping up to be Jimmy 2.0. Fark that, we've been there, done that.)

The death of Richard and Mayebelle just confirmed to me that this show that this show will cotinue to privilege the dumb shock deaths over meaningful development. And the real crime to me about Gillian's story (well, besides the fact that it dragged on and on when the "twist" was so obvious) was that her very valid point about the men in Atlantic City getting away with whatever they wanted was framed as Gillian being crazy old Gillian. Ugh.

/At this point the only thing that would make me happy is an entire season of Rothstein and Margaret shenanigans.
//But Winter is gonna insist rubbing another one out over Nucky ~*getting out of the game*~ or whatever.
 
2014-01-10 04:49:51 PM

Dwight_Yeast: No, it was supposed to run for a number of seasons.  It was just that Julius Caesar was only supposed to figure in the fist one.  After that, the show was really going to revolve around Augustus (Octavian), which makes sense if you know your Roman history, as it's under Augustus that things get interesting and that the empire and the concept of Imperial (rather than Republican) Rome develops.

/I'm a Roman history geek; I was looking forward to it.
//they tried to compress much of it into the second season, when they really should have had at least four more to do it justice.


I stand corrected.  I thought a few episodes into season one they announced season two in such a way it wasn't already forgone conclusion.

And yeah, Season Two was way too rushed.  But Season One was fantastic imo.
 
2014-01-10 08:31:23 PM
I hope it ends with susan sarandon washing her boobs with lemons.

'cause I like that.

don't you?
 
2014-01-10 08:38:08 PM

Heliodorus: Lamadin:  A similar set of issues is why they killed off Paz de la Huerta's character. The only difference is that she was apparently insane and the on the set stories that came out are surreal.


Yehabut like with crazy Christian Glover, she was a good actor.  The scenes she did when she delivered the baby were Emmy worthy.
 
2014-01-10 08:59:57 PM
Richard Harrow proved that an avenging angel could be poignant and vulnerable. What a phenomenal, textured performance made all the more remarkable by the fact that he mostly used his voice and body posture to convey every emotion from rage to tenderness. The scene where he tells the boy "I love you" is so authentic and heartbreaking I get misty-eyed just thinking about it.

The man can act.
 
2014-01-10 10:16:35 PM

Heliodorus: A similar set of issues is why they killed off Paz de la Huerta's character.


They didn't kill her off - she just left.  She could conceivably come back.  I'm not sure what purpose it would serve, though.
 
2014-01-11 12:09:37 AM

netringer: Heliodorus: Lamadin:  A similar set of issues is why they killed off Paz de la Huerta's character. The only difference is that she was apparently insane and the on the set stories that came out are surreal.

Yehabut like with crazy Christian Glover, she was a good actor.  The scenes she did when she delivered the baby were Emmy worthy.


Well, they were certainly very bloody.
 
2014-01-11 12:10:34 AM

Lsherm: Heliodorus: A similar set of issues is why they killed off Paz de la Huerta's character.

They didn't kill her off - she just left.  She could conceivably come back.  I'm not sure what purpose it would serve, though.


Yeah, ended her storyline would be a better description. But the actress is  persona non gratawith the show runners so I don't think an appearance in the final season is likely.
 
2014-01-11 01:30:22 AM

Heliodorus: Lsherm: Heliodorus: A similar set of issues is why they killed off Paz de la Huerta's character.

They didn't kill her off - she just left.  She could conceivably come back.  I'm not sure what purpose it would serve, though.

Yeah, ended her storyline would be a better description. But the actress is  persona non gratawith the show runners so I don't think an appearance in the final season is likely.


Well she's batshiat insane!  I didn't know about Michael Pitt, though.  That's a shame.  He was a fantastic character.  And I only kept watching through season 4 because of Jack Huston's Richard Harrow character, but I suppose Michael Shannon's Agent Nelson might be able to keep up the last season.

One thing's for sure - Nucky Thompson isn't nearly as interesting as his supporting cast.
 
2014-01-11 01:44:31 PM
If you rewatch Deadwood and actually give a fark about the theme of the series, the ending is fine. Short version: by the time you realize you need to go to war for your freedom, rich guys have already bought it out from under you. But if you were just watching the Bullock and Swearingen Cawksucker Hour for giggles and laughs, sure, things were "unresolved."

Go to the Onion's AV Club and look up a two-part interview with the show runner from Carnivale...that show absolutely needed to go its full run.
 
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